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[GSL] “Pride” - Finals Preview

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[GSL] “Pride” - Finals Preview

Text byLovedrop
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December 17th, 2010 18:17 GMT
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Banner by pachi. Poster by disciple. Screenshots from GSL and FOMOS.

(P)oGsMC vs. (T)TSL_Rain

Set 1: Delta Quadrant
Set 2: Lost Temple
Set 3: Xel'Naga Caverns
Set 4: Steppes of War
Set 5: Jungle Basin
Set 6: Blistering Sands
Set 7: Metalopolis

Links and Resources:
  • "No Repeats" - GSL3 Ro8 and Ro4 Recap by Xxio
  • Liquid`Jinro - S3 Ro4 Foreigner Special by Xxio
  • Liquid`Jinro - S3 Ro8 Foreigner Special by Hot_Bid
  • "Iron Chins and Former Champs" - GSL3 Ro16 Recap by TrueRedemption
  • Liquid`Jinro - S3 Ro16 Foreigner Special by Xxio
  • "Top of the Food Chain" - GSL3 Ro32 Recap by TrueRedemption
  • Liquid`Jinro & EG.IdrA - S3 Ro32 Foreigner Special by Xxio
  • Liquid`Ret - S3 Ro32 Foreigner Special by Lovedrop
  • "To Korea, With Love" - GSL3 Ro64 Recap by Lovedrop
  • GSL Results and Standings / Brackets Thread by motbob
  • http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_Sony_Ericsson_Starcraft_II_Open_Season_3


“Pride”
GSL3 Finals Preview

Time and time again, we find ourselves divided between two camps that would soon be given the opportunity to showcase their talents on the grandest of stages. An eventful half year since its release, each tournament and patch has altered the way we envisioned our masterpiece to be. This time around is no exception, as we conclude the year of Starcraft II’s arrival with the last of three finals that undoubtedly took the world by storm.

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The odds are against him.

박서용 - (T)TSL_Rain

There’s absolutely no doubt that entering Saturday’s final that TSL_Rain remains the underdog. Admittedly unknown before his entrance in GSL2, Rain had an enormous amount of ground to cover in order to catch up to those who have come before him. Carrying a joyous expression as he eliminates players left and right, Rain knew he had to do at least that in order to claim himself as one of the world’s best. His games were not won without a cost, however. Throughout the tournament, Rain was a topic of controversy. Due to a selective few strategies that are naturally frowned upon by the community, the backlash he has received would have been detrimental to any players. Not Rain, however. Rain used the negativity to his advantage and put on an exhibit of skill the following day for those who doubted him. The pride that he has wearing TSL’s name on his back is now on the line as he faces the most important BO7 of his blooming SC2 career. The time for words has long passed, and now Rain must defend himself by no other means than to win. Opposing him however, is an opponent of magnitude never before seen in Rain’s act: oGsMC.

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Exudes confidence.

장민철 - (P)oGsMC

Along with FoxeR, oGsMC definitely has taken a course with Diddy in the art of name foolery. Known in BW as MBCGame’s irOn, he began his SC2 career with his full name Jang Min Chul but decided it was too long and shortened it to his initials, MC. His past success has carried over with him to SC2, where a mediocre run in season 2 is quickly eclipsed by a dominating run to the finals a month after. While Rain’s run consisted of games that tested his skills as a player, MC’s string of games mirrored that in a more sentimental fashion. Starting off the tournament, MC had one goal in mind before putting down his foot as a force to be reckoned with: to avenge his fallen housemate Liquid`Huk. In a match dubbed as “Revenge of the Hoodie”, MC slapped down the hammer of Aiur and crushed any aspiring hope that Odin had of advancing any further, while paying tribute to HuK. Next up, MC was forced to eliminate oGsHyperdub in a team-kill RO32, singling himself out as the only surviving oGs member in the tournament. A blast from the past arrived at the RO16 and RO8 as MC faced familiar faces from his MBCGame days in ST_July and MarineKingPrime.WE. Facing his dongseng and sunbae alike, MC showed no sign of hesitation as he cruised by the Golden Mouse winner and GSL2 finalist. Once again at the RO4 must MC play a companion who he confer as “his best friend” in Liquid`Jinro. Perhaps the best way to honor that friendship was to show no mercy, and the only way MC can be proud in front of Jinro now is to take it all home. The difficulties of MC’s games are not to be undermined, but it is the strength he has shown while competing with his acquaintances that has changed the aura behind him. No longer the suicide Toss whose nerves could get the best of him, MC steps onto the stage on Saturday night with all the qualities of a true champion: prowess, charisma, and confidence.


Map Analysis

Set 1: Delta Quadrant
GSL3 TvP: 3-2

While the statistics show the T is slightly ahead on this map, the important issue is that Rain is 2-0 on the map and MC is 0-1, his only PvT loss in the tournament. Disregarding Hongun's flaunting carriers and choya's hard-fought battle against Jinro, Rain looks comfortable on DQ with its "rotational symmetry". All three of Rain's and MC's games consisted of rushes. Rain applied two barracks pressure on this four player Steppes of War when it's not cross-positioned, and they both have worked out rather well for him. MC's loss was in similar fashion, but it was MarineKing who capitalized on his early marauder pressure with a MM+SCV all in a bit later in the game. Rain will need to secure a fragile psychological lead on MC. If the two barracks play does not work out, Rain will be even deeper in the hole. A two-edged sword strategy, but MC is too solid to give up an easy win. Look forward to Rain's 2 rax bunker play, hoping to end a quick game one.

Set 2: Lost Temple
GSL3 TvP: 2-2

Rain and MC both won their games on this map. Both MC and Rain's opponent Hongun opted for VR-centric play, with the latter throwing in hallucination/blink/DTs and all sorts of tech. This was partly due to his first attack not dealing enough damage, forcing Hongun to cleverly resort to tech play. Rain did not seem particularly bothered by it, and pushed out for a timing attack minutes later. MC abused it much better than Hongun, being able to snipe out units and buildings alike from MarineKing. Anything but close positions : expect VRs. MC will take advantage of the sight given by the VR and its absurd damage to early barracks units to slowly overwhelm Rain. Rain will have to deter from his usual heavy barracks before tech play to hold this one off.

Set 3: Xel'Naga Caverns
GSL3 TvP: 2-3

Again we see an eerie similarity in Protoss wins on Xel'Naga Caverns: denying the T FE. Losses from Choya and Hongun were completely different, but all three of Protoss wins were completely one-sided. Rain's key defense in his game enabled him to push back with a food lead, but was not a convincing win by any means. MC looked as if he had Jinro all figured out, and took little time to deny that expansion and march in for the kill. If both players decide to FE, it'll all come down to whoever can take that positional advantage and win a decisive battle between a myriad of counters from the two races.

Set 4: Steppes of War
GSL3 TvP: 2-3

The small map will definitely be beneficial to Rain in someway, but the signs have shown that MC is just as comfortable. MC reacted different to both Jinro and Hyperdub, knowingly that both his housemates have a variable style of play. Hyperdub's wall is picked apart by the superior range of the void ray, and Jinro's ramp was inviting to an early chrono boosted zealot. MC will most likely not expand early before using his units to deal a considerable amount of harass. While Rain's TvP is yet to be witnessed on this map, it's highly probable that he will need to outwit MC in order to gain a lead of his own. One base play for an entirety of the game will not surprise anyone here, and the build order battle is on as both players look to pick the correct one.

Set 5: Jungle Basin
GSL3 TvP: 1-3

Do not be fooled by Rain's win over Genius to correctly evaluate this map. Genius made a grave mistake of not scouting the two barracks cheese in his natural and forfeited the game, but it is MC who gave his opponents no chance as he is undefeated on Jungle Basin. The map structure favors Protoss in a conflicting and ongoing discussion of TvP. The favorable FE for both players means that Rain will have to either grab a 3rd earlier or win on even bases. Reaching game 5 means Rain will have already exploited one of MC's mistakes and MC will be even more on-guard for any possible early attacks. Narrow passageways just funnel the units for colossus splash and storm, so Rain must utilize the mobility of MMM in order to match MC food for food. If somehow Rain is able to deny MC his natural, the game will definitely swing in his favor.

Set 6: Blistering Sands
GSL3 TvP: 2-5

Those backdoor rocks are the bane of any Terran's existence. Making it this far, Rain would hope to end the game before those rocks spell the end of his GSL3. The long distance between two entrance is terrible for any defender, and without the ability to warp in units, Rain would look to be on the offensive most of the game. Choya's mistake of engaging Jinro from a narrowed angle lost him the game. MC again responded differently to MarineKing and Hyperdub, feeling confident in his execution of both games that ended shortly after the first attack. Rain's hopes look grim on this map and he once again will have to depend on MC slipping up in order to take this game.

Set 7: Metalopolis
GSL3 TvP: 2-5

It is a shame that had the series came this far, that the maps are no longer a boon for Rain. The early maps were more favorable, but statistics have shown that Metalopolis, being a rather well-designed map, is a birthplace of Protoss success. In the very first instance of TvP in GSL3, Libero demonstrated a powerful build in order to shut down Genius, but it was poorly executed and cost him the game. Rain quickly capitalizes on that to take out Genius in the following round, but that was it for the Terran as far as TvP Metalopolis goes. Hongun and Choya dominated the last four series in GSL3, from Void Rays to massive colossus ball, Protoss looked unshakable the second half of GSL3. Several factors contribute to this dilemma. As was shown, MVP opted to go for a quick expand, but VRs with proper micro obliterated the skimpy MM forces. In a vice versa case, TheBest was held off by Hongun with the same VRs, after TheBest tried to break with three rax pressure. The wide area in front of the natural is ideal for force fields to cut down the Terran army, making it extremely difficult to hold your FE. The open area to one side of a possible wall-in makes VR micro that much stronger in breaking down the Terran wall. Air distance between main and natural is also ridiculously close, yet very far for marines to travel. It would be in Rain's best interest to attempt a build to minimize his losses before reaching a critical mass to push in and win the game. Going into game 7, psychological pressure would definitely be the deciding factor for both players. If Rain or MC can stay composed and carry out what they feel most comfortable, we are in for a spectacular game 7.

Staff Prediction


Lovedrop

(P)oGsMC <4-0> (T)TSL_Rain - MC looked dominating as he walked over his Terran opponents. Rain will have to pull a plethora of rabbits out of his hat to take this one.


tree.hugger

(P)oGsMC <4-0> (T)TSL_Rain - MCvT is one of the surest things in Sc2. He's gone 11-1 in it this GSL. Rain is better than people have given him credit for, but he's not good enough.


TrueRedemption

(P)oGsMC <4-1> (T)TSL_Rain - Against a slightly less familiar opponent MC will still dominates, but might be caught off guard once or on DQ. I hope the finals are more interesting than how I see them playing out though.


Xxio

(P)oGsMC <4-0> (T)TSL_Rain - Cakewalk. Two of the games will end in less than 14 minutes. Rain will try the point defense drone timing push but MC will easily stop it, or prevent it from happening. Rain will lose once to blink stalkers and once to void rays. MC will not tech to colossus - he will go high templars. Rain will crack under Boss Toss' pressure.


Hot_Bid

(P)oGsMC <3-4> (T)TSL_Rain - MC has played well and gotten over his nerves. He plays aggressive but technical and smart. He's so unabashedly confident, and we need personalities like him to keep ESPORTS interesting. I like that he is Jinro's friend, and that he did that ceremony for HuK. I like that he tries to do his interviews in English and comes off super badass with his "I will win easily" statements. I really want him to beat Rain. Since everyone else is going to predict MC to roll, I'm going to go ahead and jinx Rain as much as possible. Rain, you're going to win 4-3 just because that'd piss off so many fans. They'll mostly be SCV all-ins as well.

(At this point, every single writer harmoniously sighed: Oh Hot_Bid..)



Next: Finals Recap and GSL Season 3 Awards

Our next issue will round up the last GSL of the year and distribute our monthly awards. In addition, an outline of our works during the downtime between GSLs will be announced. Please look forward to it !

Thanks for reading!
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DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
December 17 2010 18:20 GMT
#2
mc should win this and he deserve it
he played solid and didn't rely on cheeses or 1 BO
IM STILL SAD THAT THERE IS NO ZERG POOHOO
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
December 17 2010 18:20 GMT
#3
MC's glasses > Rain
Thanks for the preview.
Inositol
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3 Posts
December 17 2010 18:22 GMT
#4
Can't wait! I really hope MC wins.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 17 2010 18:25 GMT
#5
Thanks for the great preview, Hot_Bid you so crazy! oGsMC should take this pretty easily, I just hope for fairly long games!
dopesauce
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
52 Posts
December 17 2010 18:26 GMT
#6
Are people still complaining about "cheeses"?, get over it. Its been covered time and time again. When money is on the line, people will do whatever it takes to win that prize, wouldnt you?
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
December 17 2010 18:26 GMT
#7
It's gonna be like this:

"Me all-in, he mule, mule, no scout, me win".

User was warned for this post
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 17 2010 18:26 GMT
#8
My money is on MC, not so much because I'm convinced that he'll win though. I just wanna see a toss on the pedestal for once ^^
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 17 2010 18:27 GMT
#9
MC 4 - 1

hero prediction from hot_bid though
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
robin19999
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands246 Posts
December 17 2010 18:27 GMT
#10
I hope MC will win this. But could go either way, Rain played very well vs Hongun. So did MC vs Jinro.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
December 17 2010 18:29 GMT
#11
Soooo exited for this final, we finally have a protoss!
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
December 17 2010 18:30 GMT
#12
I want a TSL jacket so bad. They look awesome!


But MC is going to 4-0 here. Heheh
I cannot wait for the finals! I hope they are better than most people think.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
tabbi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany113 Posts
December 17 2010 18:30 GMT
#13
awesome banner! much <3 to pachi
daChiBro
Profile Joined November 2010
United States23 Posts
December 17 2010 18:33 GMT
#14
MC is the best toss in the world right now/
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 17 2010 18:34 GMT
#15
'pride and prejudice' would have been good considering how many people hate hate hate rain.

but these 4-0 predictions.. i'm just not so sure.
:O
Manlot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Mexico111 Posts
December 17 2010 18:37 GMT
#16
Go MC! Show your growth!
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
December 17 2010 18:38 GMT
#17
MC will crush Rain in a flurry of forcefields and storms. 4-0, no mercy!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 18:41:27
December 17 2010 18:40 GMT
#18
MC FIGHTING!!!!

Protoss represent!!

edit:

oh, Hot_Bid!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
December 17 2010 18:45 GMT
#19
MC FIGHTING!!
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 18:51:53
December 17 2010 18:47 GMT
#20
Look at everything that was just said. MC had to play how many of his games against his teammates or people he knew?

Ro32 he played Hyperdub, his teammate.
Ro16 he played July, who he has played plenty of times in the past.
Ro8 he played Foxer, who he has played plenty of times in the past.
Ro4 he played Jinro, his teammate.

He's now playing somebody who he hasn't really played at all and Rain will have Tester (One of, if not the best protoss in the world) on his team who will help him train. It's amazing how everybody thinks MC will walk over Rain.

(T)TSL_Rain <4-2> (P)oGsMC
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
DarkGeneral
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada328 Posts
December 17 2010 18:47 GMT
#21
I'm so torn hehe...

I want a Terran to take it all the way.. but I'm rooting for Liquid / oGs...

Its going to be exciting
"Everybody gotta die some time, righ'?" - Wraith Pilot
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
December 17 2010 18:52 GMT
#22
I want mc to win but I wouldn't care if rain won using other strats than all in's
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
December 17 2010 18:55 GMT
#23
On December 18 2010 03:47 SidianTheBard wrote:
Look at everything that was just said. MC had to play how many of his games against his teammates or people he knew?

Ro32 he played Hyperdub, his teammate.
Ro16 he played July, who he has played plenty of times in the past.
Ro8 he played Foxer, who he has played plenty of times in the past.
Ro4 he played Jinro, his teammate.

He's now playing somebody who he hasn't really played at all and Rain will have Tester (One of, if not the best protoss in the world) on his team who will help him train. It's amazing how everybody thinks MC will walk over Rain.

(T)TSL_Rain <4-2> (P)oGsMC


... If only we trusted a bard-like person on matters of war...

MC FIGHTING!
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
December 17 2010 18:57 GMT
#24
Nice preview, I was mostly interested in the predictions though.
I think Rain will almost surely be able to take 1 game off MC, but not more. I don't think MC will be able to pull off another 4-0. Rain likes cheese and one of his cheeses is bound to work.

I know this is a little bit off topic, but I really don't see a better place to post it ;]
For someone who likes to bet XLBet offers some interesting odds, like MC winning 4:1 is 3.75, 4:2 is 4 and 4:0 is a whopping 5 if I'm not mistaken! Betting equal cash for 4:1 and 4:2 esentially gives u a coefficient of around 2 for an MC win. 4:1 + 4:0 is even more. I'd say an MC win 4:3 is really unlikely, and Rain winning is almost impossible, so it's a good chance to make money, way better odds than you'd get by betting on Football for example. ;]

What do you guys think?
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 18:59:22
December 17 2010 18:58 GMT
#25
Much like he says of marauders, MC will say "Terran die die.".

I hope the games are fun, but I will be sad if he doesn't take it.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
December 17 2010 18:58 GMT
#26
I hope Rain has prepared something special, but I really doubt it. Going with everyone else on this and predicting a 4-0 for MC.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
December 17 2010 19:01 GMT
#27
lol @ 4-0 MC...should be 4-0 Khal amulet :p
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
December 17 2010 19:04 GMT
#28
4-0 for MC. OGS-TLAF Fighting!
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
December 17 2010 19:05 GMT
#29
On December 18 2010 03:26 dopesauce wrote:
Are people still complaining about "cheeses"?, get over it. Its been covered time and time again. When money is on the line, people will do whatever it takes to win that prize, wouldnt you?


Don't feed the trolls, goddamit, just shut the fk up.

Anyway, if Rain doesn't win both DQ and LT is see no way of him ever winning this BO7.
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
December 17 2010 19:05 GMT
#30
I like MCs use of templar over collosi. Sooo many toss just tech to collosi then move out with an army ball.
Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
December 17 2010 19:05 GMT
#31
--- Nuked ---
MusiK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States302 Posts
December 17 2010 19:12 GMT
#32
Sad that a Terran will not have made it to 1st place in all 3 GSLs, but MC is a beast. If he won, I'd have no qualms. =D
BOOM!!! ~ Tasteless
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 17 2010 19:25 GMT
#33
I predict 4-0 on oGsMC :s
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
December 17 2010 19:25 GMT
#34
i think it will be 4-2 MC :O
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Mintastic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States166 Posts
December 17 2010 19:27 GMT
#35
Just gonna hope for good close games (unlike MC v Jinro semi) but I don't really care who wins, just glad that it's not a zerg for third time in a row.
테징징
D1pstick
Profile Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
December 17 2010 19:29 GMT
#36
MC FIGHTING!

That said, I do think rain will take a game or two.

MC>RAIN 4-1 or 4-2
Weird
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States832 Posts
December 17 2010 19:32 GMT
#37
MC all the way, very amusing to think about terran getting shut out of GSL this year
Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
December 17 2010 19:33 GMT
#38
haha i am with Hot_Bid with this, we cant jinx Rain enough...
hinnolinn
Profile Joined August 2010
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 19:54:50
December 17 2010 19:42 GMT
#39
Is it wrong that I'm hoping Rain wins 4-0?

All of the Rain hate is kind of ridiculous. If Rain is so bad and doesn't deserve to be in the finals, why did NONE of the better players that he was matched against prepare appropriately? It seems like you should be more pissed at their inability to adapt.

Personally, I don't think it will be 4-0 Rain, but I hope that he can put up a better fight than Jinro.

edit: weird grammar correction
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
December 17 2010 19:42 GMT
#40
HYPE !!!

Nice Article :D


and: oh, Hot_Bid ...
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
December 17 2010 19:45 GMT
#41
4-2 MC

Rain had more than a week to practice with some of the best toss atm, they are sure to have come up with ways to take games of MC. However, I think MC's overall skill will still allow him to win.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
Morduff
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy4 Posts
December 17 2010 19:46 GMT
#42
btw the time on the poster is wrong, its on 17:00 KST not 19:00 as usual. 2 hours earlier!!
"Insert random quote here."
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
December 17 2010 19:52 GMT
#43
4-2 Min. I wanna see an awesome ceremony from Min.

oh, Hot_Bid (I imagined it as if it was sexual... somethings... yeah...)
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
7
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1218 Posts
December 17 2010 19:55 GMT
#44
MC's already 4-0'ed Jinro. To do anything less to Rain would be just insulting lol
I love the sense of camaraderie when an entire line of cars teams up to prevent a dick from cutting in at the front. Stay strong, brothers!
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 17 2010 20:01 GMT
#45
I'll just say "Marauder DIE DIE !!!!"

oGsMC Fighting!! I think he will absolutely CRUSH Rain like he crushed Jinro in the Ro4. If he loses then hopefully the forum won't be flooded with "QQ P UP" comments.

p.s.: HYPE HYPE HYPE very nice article
o choro é livre
Omega.763
Profile Joined August 2010
France34 Posts
December 17 2010 20:02 GMT
#46
Can someone tell me when the finals begin in Europe ( France, GMT +1 )
My wife for Aiur
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
December 17 2010 20:04 GMT
#47
im going mc 4-1, possibly lose once to One of rain's cheeses.
yes, yes, im calling rain cheesing more than once. ^_______^
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fabulously
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway724 Posts
December 17 2010 20:08 GMT
#48
Reading this really gave me the nerdchillz. Rooting so hard for MC, teh BOSS!
Welcome back ROOT-gaming - you were never forgotten <3
MahatmaSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
December 17 2010 20:10 GMT
#49
I play as Toss, but I want Rain to win for some reason lol. GO RAIN!
Team ZeNEX fighting!
itsMAHVELbaybee
Profile Joined October 2008
292 Posts
December 17 2010 20:18 GMT
#50
TSL RAIN FIGHTING!!!
I am boss. -Minami-ke
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
December 17 2010 20:22 GMT
#51
hot_bid got this EZ.
Moragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States355 Posts
December 17 2010 20:28 GMT
#52
On December 18 2010 04:32 Weird wrote:
MC all the way, very amusing to think about terran getting shut out of GSL this year


Indeed, the semifinalists this year have been 8 Terran, 2 Zerg, 2 Protoss. Yet the champions could very well be 2 zerg, 1 protoss.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
December 17 2010 20:44 GMT
#53
There is no way mc will lose
I actually think i will wake up 8 30 (19 30 in korea) and it will be over already ....
like 4 games less than half an hour
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
December 17 2010 20:45 GMT
#54
On December 18 2010 05:02 Omega.763 wrote:
Can someone tell me when the finals begin in Europe ( France, GMT +1 )


09h00
VarmVaffel
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway378 Posts
December 17 2010 20:48 GMT
#55
On December 18 2010 05:02 Omega.763 wrote:
Can someone tell me when the finals begin in Europe ( France, GMT +1 )

What the poster above me said is correct, but if you should wonder about any time in the future:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/time.php

You can open that page by simply clicking "Time" in the upper-right corner of this page. I just recently found aout about this myself, so I can see how some people can't find it.
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
December 17 2010 20:48 GMT
#56
4-0 mc gogogo
Ferox77
Profile Joined October 2010
United States59 Posts
December 17 2010 20:50 GMT
#57
Rain vs Iron... I hope the players are not rusty!
Zing!!
no amount of creativity is gonna get a zergling past a wallin or an overlord past a marine - IdrA
smomotion
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany31 Posts
December 17 2010 20:53 GMT
#58
MC 4-0
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
December 17 2010 20:53 GMT
#59
I hope its 4-3 to MC just so we get exciting games.

But itll probably be 4-0 to MC which would be boring as hell but ohwell.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
December 17 2010 20:58 GMT
#60
Have to admit i'm not particularly looking forward to these finals. Really seems to be a anticlimactic finals match.

Idk whether its my Zerg bias, or that i think the series will be one sided, or that TvP isn't fun to watch till the late game, I'm just not all that excited for these finals.

Don't get me wrong ill still watch, and because its Starcraft it will be enjoyable. However id much rather see Leenock and Clide duke out through 7 games.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 17 2010 21:00 GMT
#61
Gogo MC!!! Crush that guy!
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 21:12:57
December 17 2010 21:11 GMT
#62
(P)oGsMC <4-0> (T)TSL_Rain

I hope MC pays some sort of tribute to Jinro for this match because that would be epic.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
December 17 2010 21:17 GMT
#63
Hahahh nice hype thread, but the staff prediction was all that matters in this article. for all the word play of "strategic plays" and "underdog" its clear that no one has overwhelming faith in Rain.

Should be a cool finals though, MC hopefully will bust out some tight builds.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
December 17 2010 21:20 GMT
#64
MC should take it, but perhaps Rain will bring out some awesome play and make it a series. I can only hope. MC should win 4-2.
Brood War forever!
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
December 17 2010 21:21 GMT
#65
On December 18 2010 06:17 TheNessman wrote:
Hahahh nice hype thread, but the staff prediction was all that matters in this article. for all the word play of "strategic plays" and "underdog" its clear that no one has overwhelming faith in Rain.


I think its more of an overwhelming faith in High Templars
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
December 17 2010 21:28 GMT
#66
Hoping for a close series but I'm worried MC will just roll Rain with ease.
Getz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States559 Posts
December 17 2010 21:39 GMT
#67
On December 18 2010 06:28 Jonoman92 wrote:
Hoping for a close series but I'm worried MC will just roll Rain with ease.


I'm thinking that this will happen.
스타크래프트
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
December 17 2010 21:44 GMT
#68
MC for sure. That guy is a mean SC machine. Probably 4-0.
aka Wardo
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
December 17 2010 22:00 GMT
#69
Fantastic write-up.
I don't mind either player winning, to be honest.

MC does seem a bit ominous though. Scary dude.
oyoyo
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 17 2010 22:01 GMT
#70
MC should win, but don't underestimate that Rain is in TSL, and TSL brainstorming is really effective at killing people in sc2. I hope it will be interresting, a 4-0 would be dumb.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
December 17 2010 22:06 GMT
#71
I expect MC to win this one undoubdtable. MC Hwaiting!
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
December 17 2010 22:14 GMT
#72
put this one away MC and give toss a gsl victory.

yes, i hate toss, but they are gonna need one eventually, and this is the best time for them to get it.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
TheValley
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland56 Posts
December 17 2010 22:21 GMT
#73
lol, wrong time on poster
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
December 17 2010 22:25 GMT
#74
i remember when MC was Iron and playing BW, and he did a thumbs down ceremony before his match, then lost..

hopefully this time he can win :-)

Protoss fighting!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
not to stir up a debate, but seeing as how Iron was B level at best in the BW proscene and is entering the finals makes me wonder what it would be like if people like flash and jaedong moved over if anyone would stand a chance? Actually- July, Boxer, and Nada have all made the change too and haven't all had such results, so I guess it's safe to say that the results wouldn't go across the board - however i still think flash/dong would dominate.. just speculation though
jaedong imba
Eko200
Profile Joined December 2010
United States101 Posts
December 17 2010 22:31 GMT
#75
On December 18 2010 07:25 slappy wrote:
i remember when MC was Iron and playing BW, and he did a thumbs down ceremony before his match, then lost..

hopefully this time he can win :-)

Protoss fighting!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
not to stir up a debate, but seeing as how Iron was B level at best in the BW proscene and is entering the finals makes me wonder what it would be like if people like flash and jaedong moved over if anyone would stand a chance? Actually- July, Boxer, and Nada have all made the change too and haven't all had such results, so I guess it's safe to say that the results wouldn't go across the board - however i still think flash/dong would dominate.. just speculation though


Even if there was just one last guy holding out in the BW proscene I think we would still see speculation that if he went over to SC2 he would dominate.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
December 17 2010 22:37 GMT
#76
Does anyone know if there's a pregame ceremony or something and when the actual games start? I'm just curious because if the game's start at 3 am EST, then I won't go to sleep first, but if they start at 5 am, then I'll be able to get some sleep.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 23:25:19
December 17 2010 22:45 GMT
#77
On December 18 2010 06:28 Jonoman92 wrote:
Hoping for a close series but I'm worried MC will just roll Rain with ease.


nono, hoping for a quick 4-0 but i'm worried it will be a close series

i can feel the stench of rain's scv's from a-move practice half way across the globe
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
MforWW
Profile Joined July 2010
United States157 Posts
December 17 2010 22:51 GMT
#78
Rain is dead, unless he somehow cheeses MC out of the tournament. I don't think I've seen that dude win a single macro game.

But really, MC's gotta do it for liquid/ogs

MC HWAITING
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
December 17 2010 22:52 GMT
#79
well MC will crushed Rain, hes so dominant in PvT. im sure he will end game quickly
if play random i can't call any race imba?
MarshalClaw
Profile Joined October 2010
United States27 Posts
December 17 2010 23:02 GMT
#80
I'm quite confident that MC will crush Rain.
I predict 4-1, as I think Rain is a good player and since he is able to practice with Tester, he's got to be able to pull out one win on a map favorable to T.
BoxerBriefs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
December 17 2010 23:06 GMT
#81
this will be on gomtv?
WHOOP!
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
December 17 2010 23:13 GMT
#82
To the poster above: Obviously dude!


GOGOGOGOGO MC, hero PvT..
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
LaO-Tyros_Reffa
Profile Joined May 2005
Netherlands50 Posts
December 17 2010 23:15 GMT
#83
On December 18 2010 07:37 Enervate wrote:
Does anyone know if there's a pregame ceremony or something and when the actual games start? I'm just curious because if the game's start at 3 am EST, then I won't go to sleep first, but if they start at 5 am, then I'll be able to get some sleep.


* The broadcast will start at 5pm KST with the Finals Pre-show. The 30minute Pre-show will be in Korean only but the Finals, starting at 5:30pm KST, will be in English.

source: GOM TV.
DOMINOSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada345 Posts
December 17 2010 23:27 GMT
#84
i really liked this build up great job guys.

and lol at hot_bid.
Sen Fighting!!! / JulyZerg Fighting!!! / Ret Fighting!!! / Reach Fighting!!! / well intentioned people of average intelligence
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
December 17 2010 23:28 GMT
#85
lol, this writeup is so extremely biased that i am beginning to doubt in teamliquids frontpage article authors. Rain riding his cheese-momentum and being a proud all-inner? Rain is the guy who apoligized to the audience for cheesing! MC making a dominant run? MC's games never reached the 10 minute mark!

ofc you love MC because you are basically teammates, but a bit more subjectivity would be great.

also whats with the korean links? is that a practical joke? wtf are these for?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
December 17 2010 23:32 GMT
#86
You guys are all wrong,watch as rain become GS:3 champion in about 11hours.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3099 Posts
December 17 2010 23:41 GMT
#87
I fully support a Protoss champion, OGS/Liquid, and Jinro's right as an awesome guy for his conquerer to win the whole thing; in short, I support ogsMC.

However, I'm quite sure people shouldn't at all count out TSL_Rain, and either way I'm hoping for some awesome games.

GO!
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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 17 2010 23:54 GMT
#88
Great write up! Really appreciate the effort! I think we all need to remember that a lot of people were saying Foxer would go down 4-0 or 4-1 before the finals last season and he managed to push it to 4-3!

I would love MC to win but i sure as hell hope it is more exciting than a 4-0 roflstomp!

Go go Liquid/oGs HWAITING!
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hjEmlEngsEl
Profile Joined November 2010
Afghanistan6 Posts
December 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#89
When is this in nor/swe/dk? (GMT +1) would that be at 9?
"He once ripped a nerd's heart out and ate it; just for asking what race he played" - Mondgragon @WCG 2006
Turing
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
December 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#90
On December 18 2010 07:25 slappy wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
not to stir up a debate, but seeing as how Iron was B level at best in the BW proscene and is entering the finals makes me wonder what it would be like if people like flash and jaedong moved over if anyone would stand a chance? Actually- July, Boxer, and Nada have all made the change too and haven't all had such results, so I guess it's safe to say that the results wouldn't go across the board - however i still think flash/dong would dominate.. just speculation though


One thing that is interesting about that, imo, is that Flash and JD dominate in part because of their mechanics. Considering that without mechanics, these older players are probably very close to the top players of this generation, and that SC2 is much less focused on mechanics, I honestly don't think that Flash and JD would dominate nearly as much in SC2.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
December 18 2010 00:15 GMT
#91
Warning: You're going to have a lot of pissed off people here in like 10 hours because the Banner says it's at 19:00 KST, when GOMTV and the calendar says 17:00, meaning a bunch of people might tune in 2 hours late now.
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
December 18 2010 00:20 GMT
#92
Thanks for the preview. Great work
really?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
December 18 2010 00:54 GMT
#93
I get the feeling this is going to be a LOOOOOOOOOOT closer than everyone thinks... and I'm really not sure who's going to win. But I certainly hope it's MC!
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
December 18 2010 00:56 GMT
#94
On December 18 2010 08:28 Heimatloser wrote:
lol, this writeup is so extremely biased that i am beginning to doubt in teamliquids frontpage article authors. Rain riding his cheese-momentum and being a proud all-inner? Rain is the guy who apoligized to the audience for cheesing! MC making a dominant run? MC's games never reached the 10 minute mark!

ofc you love MC because you are basically teammates, but a bit more subjectivity would be great.

also whats with the korean links? is that a practical joke? wtf are these for?

Are you being serious?

MC's games didn't reach the 10 minute mark because he fucking DESTROYED his opponents. How is that not domination?
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
December 18 2010 00:59 GMT
#95
MC gonna take this. his style versus terran ist overwhelming.
keep it deep! @zulison
Kahuna.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada196 Posts
December 18 2010 01:20 GMT
#96
It's as if the fat lady has already sung with these predictions. A 4-0 prediction is just ridiculous... it won't happen. MC may take it, but not without Rain taking 2 or 3 games from him. I personally think Rain will win 4-2 or 4-3. He has undoubtedly played Tester 1000+ times in the past week and the fact that he has a practice partner of that quality is being ignorantly overlooked by most of these misleading predictions.
"Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit."
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
December 18 2010 01:21 GMT
#97
The real question is do I stay up and watch the finals or not... hmmm.
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
December 18 2010 01:28 GMT
#98
Ran is gonna get rofl stomped Iron has Terran figured out to the last second. I still hope for long Games and no 5 min rushes -.-
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
Eko200
Profile Joined December 2010
United States101 Posts
December 18 2010 01:33 GMT
#99
I think people will be upset but I wouldn't call it an upset if Rain won.
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
December 18 2010 01:47 GMT
#100
On December 18 2010 10:33 Eko200 wrote:
I think people will be upset but I wouldn't call it an upset if Rain won.


TL would riot haha... I think people would be upset even if oGsMC won 4-1 (cause Rain won a game)
Monsieur
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada71 Posts
December 18 2010 01:50 GMT
#101
oGsMC is gonna pwn TSL_Rain for sure....well i sure hope he does because he's the Toss Boss and deserve it a lot more
Your tears taste so good! :)
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
December 18 2010 02:00 GMT
#102
Finally, a Protoss in the bid for the finals. Go MC!
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Ratel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada184 Posts
December 18 2010 02:00 GMT
#103
i really hope mc is gona take it, although i have a feeling it will be a close series
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
December 18 2010 02:07 GMT
#104
go go go MC
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
December 18 2010 02:12 GMT
#105
How does a preview article not say what time this match is at!?! =p
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netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
December 18 2010 02:18 GMT
#106
I just want both players to play astoundingly well despite the pressure and nerves and deliver a great series.

MC will probably take it 4-1 or 4-2 though, MCvT is the best in the world atm.
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SavageReborn
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia106 Posts
December 18 2010 02:23 GMT
#107
I have work so won't be able to watch this... MC should win though, and become the new protoss hero!
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Trakz
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada178 Posts
December 18 2010 02:24 GMT
#108
Ive got finals the next day but im going to watch anyways.

MC should take this but I dont think easily.
None shall take if undeserved
Oxb
Profile Joined August 2010
199 Posts
December 18 2010 02:31 GMT
#109
woww so many MC 4-0 Rain predictions.. I completely disagree with the rain hate, yes he cheesed several times and severtal times he has not. He won his games either way and in the final now.
MC is amazing though and I wonder if Rain can come out on top, I'm rooting for OGS/TLAF so I guess 4-2 or 4-3 to oGsMC, looking forwward to some interesting vods can't have decent stream here (china) :-( plu is not streaming and livestreams are way too laggy. Direct streams from gomtv don't work, anyone might have other ideas let me know.
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
December 18 2010 02:38 GMT
#110
Does anyone know if there is going to be the hour preview thing like there was before GSL #2?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
December 18 2010 02:42 GMT
#111
go toss!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 18 2010 02:43 GMT
#112
not following the gsl but would be funny to see two early game experts try out late game play hehe.

4-2 for rain, since mc will take 2 games with early pressure when he realizes he can't win long games. because rain build up some gosu snipe micro getting the obs with vikings and then taking care of all zealots and hts and then its time for the rauders hehe.
Just snipe those sentrys down early !
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 18 2010 02:59 GMT
#113
hahahaha on man hot_bid doing the jinx! MC fighting yo!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
December 18 2010 02:59 GMT
#114
GoGsMC!
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 18 2010 03:00 GMT
#115
I think Rain is gonna take more games than people think, but MC will win in the end.

Either way, I'm not really feeling this final...I was pretty excited before GSL1 and GSL2 finals, but this just kind of feels like a non-event. I dunno, just kind of underwhelmed by the players I guess...
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 18 2010 03:11 GMT
#116
I predict oGsMC wins 4-2, losing DQ and Steppes.
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Tomfour
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
December 18 2010 03:18 GMT
#117
I feel like MC is going to definitely win, but I'm not going to say dominate, although that is very very possible.

I just hope that the games are fairly long and entertaining, I'll be very disappointed if we see a lot of cheese or a lot of all ins from either player.

I don' think MC is going to roll Rain in every game, I feel as most of them will be somewhat long games with MC coming out on top. However, I wouldn't be so quick to count Rain out because he has some amazing practice partners in Ssks, Sang Ho, and oh ya Guinea Pig (sorta).

Both the players will be prepared and it should be entertaining, and I feel the ending score will not be a very good way to judge how well these players actually match up against each other.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 18 2010 03:22 GMT
#118
Honestly, as long as it doesn't end up like another 45 minute Bo7 where MC rings it in 4-0 in under 9 minutes each time, I'll probably be happy. I'm hoping by some miracle it'll be a close series and a fun one at that.
the farm ends here
sokjin
Profile Joined October 2010
7 Posts
December 18 2010 03:22 GMT
#119
gogo rain!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
December 18 2010 03:51 GMT
#120
Legend of the Fall.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Basic
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada288 Posts
December 18 2010 04:01 GMT
#121
Does anyone else have an issue where gomTV says that the next match is not scheduled when you hover your mouse over the "Live" button?
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
December 18 2010 04:03 GMT
#122
Really nice write-up and loved the P.Diddy reference.Lol!
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 04:24:31
December 18 2010 04:23 GMT
#123
Great hype article ^^.

I gotta say though, it's soooo much harder to hype up this particular finals as opposed to the previous two GSLs . MC is just such a huge favourite and seems to totally outclass Rain.

At this point, I'm expecting the finals to be nothing more than a formality for MC. If Rain can pull of something, it'd be worth it though, just for the fact that people will be talking about it forever .
PrAeToR.FeNiX
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada361 Posts
December 18 2010 04:52 GMT
#124
Iron will win and be the first Protoss hero
i am so original
En taro Adun!
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 18 2010 04:54 GMT
#125
Eagerly awaiting, but I'm hoping against what everyone's saying, and want Rain to put up a huge fight. I want MC to have to struggle to pull out wins.

Last season's finals were just disappointing, hope they're better this time.
Nithix
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States184 Posts
December 18 2010 05:37 GMT
#126
4-3 in MC's favor... I honestly think MC will crush Rain, but I want longer games! Finals have been pretty lame so far in GSL.
Not even death can save you from me. - Diablo
daffodil
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia109 Posts
December 18 2010 05:51 GMT
#127
anyone else hate looking at rain's face?
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
December 18 2010 06:44 GMT
#128
Time to kill MC.

Feel mixxed. Would like an epic final... but I also want MC to roll this punk.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 18 2010 06:54 GMT
#129
4-0 ezpz
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
WinterNightz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States111 Posts
December 18 2010 07:04 GMT
#130
Just wanna say: thanks so much for the preview write-up! This is the first preview I've actually caught, and the map analysis is very much appreciated. I love thinking about the little intricacies of the different players' play-styles on the different maps, but I would never be able to actually do the legwork required to fully understand all that. So thank you muchly for your research and wonderful presentation!
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
December 18 2010 07:09 GMT
#131
Interestingly enough the finals start the second I turn 18.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
RainMore
Profile Joined December 2010
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 07:17:58
December 18 2010 07:12 GMT
#132
I don't have a lot of hope that the finals will be interesting. FruitDealer played a HopeTorture that was completely off his game (much like he was this season), NesTea vs MarineKing was "interesting" when I saw it but watching it now bores me to death. Nothing has been that exciting in the RO4s of any season either.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 18 2010 07:15 GMT
#133
lets go MC!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
December 18 2010 07:21 GMT
#134
I don't care who wins. Thank god no foreigners will win.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
December 18 2010 07:41 GMT
#135
Hoping for P to win
SNARF HWAITING
tstream07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States16 Posts
December 18 2010 07:53 GMT
#136
Is the live stream free?
TFLOW
RobMoney
Profile Joined September 2010
United States44 Posts
December 18 2010 07:58 GMT
#137
DAMN starcraft seems so ghetto. Mc is going to win TSLRAIN will probably try not to want to cheese but mc will kill the cheese and keep a look out HUK MC JINRO BITCH
Much good work is lost for the lack of additional pylons. -Dish
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
December 18 2010 08:06 GMT
#138
I realized something just now, after looking at RO64 qualifiers' pictures...

They're all sooo ugly! =(

What happened to the cool, pretty boys that tons of Korean girls drool over? Seems like every other BW pro was pretty good looking, young, COOL... [Yellow, FBH, JaeDong, Bisu, etc]

SC2 players look terrible!!! lol

PS: Ret might be the best looking guy in GSL atm LOL. He actually looks better since his BW days.

PSS: I'm not gay or anything, I'm just saying... I mean look at those mugs! XD

Anywhoooo... I want MC to win!!! Simply because he knocked out July =(((
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
Viruuus
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany451 Posts
December 18 2010 08:51 GMT
#139
lol@ the trashtalking, both say they will in 4-0 =D
Lee Jae Dong fighting!!!
Larrie
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom46 Posts
December 18 2010 10:19 GMT
#140
On December 18 2010 17:06 Darkn3ss wrote:
I realized something just now, after looking at RO64 qualifiers' pictures...

They're all sooo ugly! =(

What happened to the cool, pretty boys that tons of Korean girls drool over? Seems like every other BW pro was pretty good looking, young, COOL... [Yellow, FBH, JaeDong, Bisu, etc]

SC2 players look terrible!!! lol

PS: Ret might be the best looking guy in GSL atm LOL. He actually looks better since his BW days.

PSS: I'm not gay or anything, I'm just saying... I mean look at those mugs! XD

Anywhoooo... I want MC to win!!! Simply because he knocked out July =(((



I'd do MC.
RobMoney
Profile Joined September 2010
United States44 Posts
December 18 2010 11:40 GMT
#141
MC WON BROTOSS!! HE DIDI FOR TLAFOGS
Much good work is lost for the lack of additional pylons. -Dish
RobMoney
Profile Joined September 2010
United States44 Posts
December 18 2010 11:41 GMT
#142
HUK TAKING SEASON 4!!!!!?! :D

Much good work is lost for the lack of additional pylons. -Dish
Trakz
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada178 Posts
December 18 2010 11:42 GMT
#143
+ Show Spoiler +
Congrats to oGsMC for winning Season 3!
None shall take if undeserved
Gak2
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
December 18 2010 12:00 GMT
#144
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4-1. a compromise of everyone saying 4-0, and the others saying it will be pretty close

Some games Rain made some bad decisions, and his macro failed him sometimes. He's not quite champion material.

MC on the other hand was spectacular
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
December 18 2010 12:14 GMT
#145
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/me high-fives all Protoss players
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50120 Posts
December 18 2010 13:00 GMT
#146
On December 18 2010 20:40 RobMoney wrote:
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MC WON BROTOSS!! HE DIDI FOR TLAFOGS



Spoiler dude.Spoiler
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JackOscar
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden50 Posts
December 18 2010 13:38 GMT
#147
Why did he GG in last game that early -.- For 87k He's not gonna try to force a draw by killing every single probe with the hellions and lifting a building? Pretty sure MC had less than 50 minerals left...

I'm sure MC was pretty surprised seeeing that GG since he seems to be pretty educated involving almost draw situations/base races (just look at the last jinro game, he imidietly knew what to do)

Actually maybe scratch that last part since MC made 2-4 last harvesters while the hellions was in his base instead of banking the 150 minerals so he could avoid a draw after he killed of the hellion threat
"Guinnea pigs have more blood than rats and hamster" - Artosis
MIsterToto
Profile Joined November 2010
Argentina47 Posts
December 18 2010 14:51 GMT
#148
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On December 18 2010 22:38 JackOscar wrote:
Why did he GG in last Game that early -.- For 87k He's not gonna try to force a draw by killing every single Probe with the hellions and lifting a building? Pretty sure MC had less than 50 minerals left...

I'm sure MC was pretty surprised seeeing that GG since he seems to be pretty educated involving almost draw situations/base races (just look at the last Jinro Game, he imidietly knew what to do)


Completely agree. For that kind of Money, who cares about BM? Plus, you're already hated by the whole community XD.
Anyway, to me the series didn't seem soooo one-sided. I mean, MC was really impeccable, but Rain was not too shabby. I still wonder how he didn't win game 2, and game 3 was a great display of skill, I think.
Perón cumple, Evita dignifica.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
December 18 2010 14:59 GMT
#149
On December 18 2010 03:47 SidianTheBard wrote:
Look at everything that was just said. MC had to play how many of his games against his teammates or people he knew?

Ro32 he played Hyperdub, his teammate.
Ro16 he played July, who he has played plenty of times in the past.
Ro8 he played Foxer, who he has played plenty of times in the past.
Ro4 he played Jinro, his teammate.

He's now playing somebody who he hasn't really played at all and Rain will have Tester (One of, if not the best protoss in the world) on his team who will help him train. It's amazing how everybody thinks MC will walk over Rain.

(T)TSL_Rain <4-2> (P)oGsMC



So... You are saying beating July is easy because he's played him before...
Same with MarineKing who is a better T than Rain statistically.
Then you mention something about Tester... MC is a better P than Tester if you look at Mechanics...

And of course the outcome of the match went the way it should have.

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However I have to give it up to Rain for his cancel rax into shee's. That game was brilliantly laid out by him and MC fell straight into his trap and lost. Both players did extremely well and deserved to be in the Finals of this GSL.
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 15:21:38
December 18 2010 15:19 GMT
#150
RAIN FIGHTING!!!!
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too bad he didnt do so good...
i dunno lol
funkkkk
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania8 Posts
December 18 2010 16:09 GMT
#151
mc vs fruitdealer would been better
Oxb
Profile Joined August 2010
199 Posts
December 18 2010 17:24 GMT
#152
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first 3 games were great too bad the last 2 were cheese by MC, dissappointed in that since he always said he wanted interesting/good/fan-loveable games (whatever he said exactly) .. now the MC hating for cheesing can begin? Guess not since he's protoss.. a loved race since they weren't op on release :D. + cheesing is part of the game, hope everyone understands now
A deserved win none the less and i'm happy MC can take the cup to the oGs house! oGs fighting!
Hope to see a lot more of foreign action in the 2011! Jinro and Ret, rooting for u all the way!

Mindtwist
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
December 18 2010 17:52 GMT
#153
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Rain looked so sad Poor guy.
I must admit MC performed really well. Outplayed Rain pretty damn hard. I guess MC has a reason to be cocky after all. Still, I hate that attitude. Too bad the 'good' guy lost. Oh well.


fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
December 18 2010 20:26 GMT
#154
i did not have time to watch the finals last nite, i hope some roflstomping ensued?
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 18 2010 22:51 GMT
#155
+ Show Spoiler +

Unrelated:
Cool wins just before zerg gets buffed,
MC wins just before protoss gets buffed,
coincidence, i think not.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Fazzmania
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia29 Posts
December 19 2010 02:51 GMT
#156
On December 19 2010 02:52 Mindtwist wrote:
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Rain looked so sad Poor guy.
I must admit MC performed really well. Outplayed Rain pretty damn hard. I guess MC has a reason to be cocky after all. Still, I hate that attitude. Too bad the 'good' guy lost. Oh well.




Good? I'd much rather watch a good protoss than another marine rushing all in terran.
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
December 19 2010 03:14 GMT
#157
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Game two was amassing and Mc was just amassing all around.
this mah s#$%$
StarCraft2 arena
Profile Joined December 2010
United States19 Posts
December 20 2010 18:08 GMT
#158
Does anyone know who players will be on the next GSL? i mean, they're already chosen or not? tnx
"StarCraft2 is life, learn it from http://starcraft2arena.blogspot.com/"
Mystgun
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong311 Posts
December 21 2010 00:09 GMT
#159
On December 18 2010 17:06 Darkn3ss wrote:
I realized something just now, after looking at RO64 qualifiers' pictures...

They're all sooo ugly! =(

What happened to the cool, pretty boys that tons of Korean girls drool over? Seems like every other BW pro was pretty good looking, young, COOL... [Yellow, FBH, JaeDong, Bisu, etc]

SC2 players look terrible!!! lol

PS: Ret might be the best looking guy in GSL atm LOL. He actually looks better since his BW days.

PSS: I'm not gay or anything, I'm just saying... I mean look at those mugs! XD

Anywhoooo... I want MC to win!!! Simply because he knocked out July =(((


Foxer, Boxer, and Jinro are still charming
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
December 21 2010 07:39 GMT
#160
On December 18 2010 21:00 Furios wrote:
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4-1. a compromise of everyone saying 4-0, and the others saying it will be pretty close

Some games Rain made some bad decisions, and his macro failed him sometimes. He's not quite champion material.

MC on the other hand was spectacular


Yeah he's not champion material... he just showed everyone that all-in terran can get you to finals of GSL... ^^
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
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