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[SC2B] Liquipedia Update I

Text byPholon
March 16th, 2010 20:49 GMT

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Liquipedia II has been released for about a week now, and we already have over 200 articles! Wow! If you've been under a rock and missed the big news, check out Aesop's post here.

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The StarCraft 2 Beta is in full swing, full force, full time. At Liquipedia we're doing our best trying to keep up, dashing along, trying to harvest whatever bits and pieces of knowledge we can and chronicling it as the building blocks of our Wiki. Our editors are doing a fantastic job with this, shaping, molding and harnassing the flood of content streaming towards our Liquishores. While they are fighting the tide a couple of us snuck out to tell you guys the newest and latest from Wikibeach.


1. New sections!

When we started out with the new wiki, we mainly focused on getting the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Units , http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Buildings and http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Maps sorted out. They are the concrete foundation and, as you can see, these sections are filling up really well. We're therefore expanding to new territories:

1.1 Spells and Abilities

Let's start off with one of the more intricate phenomenons of StarCraft: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Spells . As we've seen in BroodWar, there's a lot more to them than most people know. Can Hallucinations be Detected? Does having 2 Guardian Shields reduce ranged attacks by 4? Can you EMP a Point Defense Drone? To answer these questions we started this section, laying out all the ins and outs about all the Spells and Abilities. Contributing is easy, copy-paste our http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SpellTemplate and edit away. Some pages like http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Graviton_Beam and http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Psi_Storm are already shaping up nicely, but a lot of the other spells still need a ton of work.
The same story goes for our new (Wiki)Abilities section, along with the (Wiki)AbilityTemplate. We'll be looking forward to getting some helping hands with this

1.2 Players

Player pages are an interesting enigma this early in the beta of any videogame. I feel that they will be a key part of Liquipedia2 and another thing we'll have over future rivals. The problem is, it's hard to predict who deserves a page, who doesn't and even if player pages are necessary so early. This was our first problem. So I thought long and hard and came up with a (Wiki)checklist of what qualifies a player for a page and what content we want. With these things in mind, we have begun to build a strong list of players with good chances of sticking around and being part of the pro-scene in the future. It will be hard work and I await KeSPA's decision regarding Brood War and Starcraft 2 with a little bit of fear due to the masses of players that may need to be added, so, we best start working now! I hope that you will have your players that you support and that you help out with the pages from the beginning. My favourite, (Wiki)Orly, will be getting the stalker devoted fan treatment from me on his page and I hope some of you do the same.

TheFallofTroy and I are hard at work to research histories, gather information and check pages and we're both happy with how the player portal is expanding! We have plans to start going straight to the players and finding out more about them through interviews and photographs, so stay tuned to the Player's pages for exclusive information and maybe, you just might learn something.
      -Flicky


1.3 Leagues

I love tournaments. I don't care if they're called Zotac, ESL, PlayXP, Liquibition or "Hello, Goodbye", to me they're one of the basic pillars in StarCraft. Since the beta was released we have added a total of 12 tournaments on Liquipedia 2, in reality it's more since Zotac has completed three tournaments and ESL two. And there's more coming, I'm actually anticipating so many tournaments that I've started to remake the tournament portal to make it easier for everyone to find what they're looking for.

I'd also like to urge everyone who wants to get out of that embarassing bronze-division to visit the tournament pages. If a tournament happend and a replay pack was released we have a link to it, high level replays are just a few clicks away. So visit the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Portal:Leagues on Liquipedia 2, download some replays and get better.
      -Julmust



2. Strategy

Another project that we initiated is developing the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Strategy section. Reporting on Strategy is one of Liquipedia's greatest assets. It is where people come to learn and it's what we take a lot of pride in. We strive to make it an equally great feature for Liquipedia II.

With the patches flooding in on top of the game itself still being in its baby phases, strategy is evolving on a daily basis. Consequently we have already had some strategic content trickling in. Today, we are officially starting to shape and fill this section making it a comprehensive, structured, well-written work of reference. To start out we'd like to implore all new contributors to use our http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/StrategyTemplate and our http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Strategy_Article_Policy . These are great resources to get you started and using them will help us a lot in structuring this part of Liquipedia.


3. Patch Updates

You can count on Liquipedia for being your main reference when it comes to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Beta_Patch_Notes . As the beta is updated, so are we


4. Liquipedia I

With the StarCraft 2 Beta up and running and all the talk that's been going on about it, it's easy to forget that StarCraft 1 still exists and is going strong. Since "every saga has a beginning", as a certain George Lucas movie once put it, we have gone back to the beginning and filled in a lot of gaps when it comes to old StarCraft 1 maps made by Blizzard.

All of (Wiki)Blizzard's Map of the Week, (Wiki)Blizzard's Map of the Month and (Wiki)Allied maps have been added as well as the last of the (Wiki)Brood War no-ladder default maps. With only the scenario maps left to be added, we have made sure that people will be hard pressed to find a map made by Blizzard that's not on Liquipedia!
      -Slugbreath


On another note, we're also archiving the various (Wiki)Foreign clans that have made the Foreign StarCraft scene great.


5. Staff updates

We are happy to announce another great editor joining our ranks. Hey FallOfTroy! What have you been working on?

Flicky and myself have been hard at work on the various player pages for Liquipedia 2. We have been adding new Players and achievements as they roll in from various Beta tournaments and show matches. This way everyone knows who the big names are at this point and what they have accomplished in the Beta.

Another project I have been working on is the (Wiki)Foreigners section of Liquipedia 1. I have been adding information about each foreigner; such as their achievements, various facts and any interviews they have done. So if you know any information about your favourite players, then feel free to add it. As there is much to do and many foreign players to write up on!

How to help out Liquipedia: The best way to help out is to just jump in and edit! Don't be afraid to edit or ask questions, Liquipedia is built by its users and we can always use some more help =D
      -TheFallOfTroy


Congratulations to him and welcome to the madness


See you on the Wiki!

The Liquipedia Staff


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Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 16 2010 21:01 GMT
#2
nice job guys
bongjwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States199 Posts
March 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#3
excellent! :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123578 <--- my tournament. sign up!
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4
gj. <3 very nicely done
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#5
Sounds awesome guys, the amount of content on there is just incredible. It's super handy to be able to liquipedize just about anything that is unfamiliar to newer people. Liquipedia is such a great resource, however I think it is slightly underused People should start looking there first before asking questions.

TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
March 16 2010 21:11 GMT
#6
Sweet!
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2666 Posts
March 16 2010 21:16 GMT
#7
Who the hell voted other?

Requesting ban for that person.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 16 2010 21:17 GMT
#8
On March 17 2010 06:16 Flicky wrote:
Who the hell voted other?

Requesting ban for that person.

What else is there?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
March 16 2010 21:21 GMT
#9
Sc2 is pretty lame.
bw, however, remains the best RTS ever.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
bigjmachine
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States314 Posts
March 16 2010 21:23 GMT
#10
Very nice guys Good job
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pluu.mooh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Austria142 Posts
March 16 2010 21:27 GMT
#11
the one that voted other probably meant sc2data.com which in my opinion is really good what concerns the starcraft2 data but can not really be compared to the liquipidia II, which really ROX!

Thanks mates for keeping up the good work! Love the Leagues and Players section! Its great to hang on with whats going on
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
March 16 2010 21:28 GMT
#12
The Leagues section is crazy. There is about every single tournament listed since the start of beta.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 16 2010 21:55 GMT
#13
I love the work people in the design part do. The last change in the Leagues was fantastic, but makes harder to edit.

It took my a while to realize how the Players list work so i can edit it.
I am not good with quotes
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
March 16 2010 21:58 GMT
#14
On March 17 2010 06:55 s.a.y wrote:
I love the work people in the design part do. The last change in the Leagues was fantastic, but makes harder to edit.

It took my a while to realize how the Players list work so i can edit it.


if you have a problem just drop me a PM and I'll explain it to you, its not that hard really, just seems harder
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
March 16 2010 22:15 GMT
#15
Question:
How to decide which tournament has to go on liquipedia? same for players..
i really don't find very clever adding players now..game is still in beta..we are adding players on a "wikipedia" of starcraft 2 without the game? Please be serious..
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
March 16 2010 22:23 GMT
#16
We add all tournaments we can find information about, I have a round of 5-6 sites I go trough daily to find tournaments. If I find one I add it

As for the players, should we remove boxer, H.O.T Forever, GARMITO, ChoJJa and so on from LP1? Becuase that's a completely diffrent game compared to the early days. We're basically assuming that the players who are good early in the beta (aka. wins tournaments and such) will be good atleast in the beginning of the full launch version.

Most of the players up there spend alot of hours a day playing the game and will continue doing so when the full version comes out. I doubt that, when it launches, we'll see 10 people coming out of nowhere completely owning the scene and throwing these players off the chart
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 22:29:10
March 16 2010 22:26 GMT
#17
I think i should change my 14 gas speed into an Opening rather then a build

As it works well in ZvP and ZvT now, and it's viable in ZvZ if the map distance isn't too close

And so the small variations between the 3 mu can be later done on build, but i think 14 gas speed is pretty much an opening.

I'll play a few games and see if i can get reps probably see if i have time to talk this over on irc

As it's just
10 Overlord.
14 Extractor.
Put 3 Drones on the Extractor
14 Spawning Pool.
15 Overlord.
Upgrade speed and it can be done in all mu pretty effectively

but might just cut it down to 14 gas as i sometimes skip speed in zvz due to roach
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 22:29:59
March 16 2010 22:27 GMT
#18
You judge a player good because he has played a game for 3 weeks? seriously? The game is still unbalanced and unexploreted. I know the comments like this one seems not productive but I don't find real professional the "player list" at this stage of the game.

Your example (boxer hot,...) is totally different from the actual situation.


and about tournament: you don't understand what i mean. If i organize a tournament at my house it will go to liquipedia? i suppose it will not happen. So we have to put some requirement. Number of players? Fame of the site? Skill level? and for each of this point we have to discuss how to decide resepctable sites, skill level, etc etc
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 16 2010 22:34 GMT
#19
There's also the "Common Sense" bullet point that's implied. If it obviously doesn't belong in LP, then it obviously doesn't belong in LP.

Anyway, expect to see the unit pages and Strategy pages get fleshed out real soon! ^_^
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 16 2010 22:36 GMT
#20
On March 17 2010 07:15 LuDwig- wrote:
Question:
How to decide which tournament has to go on liquipedia? same for players..
i really don't find very clever adding players now..game is still in beta..we are adding players on a "wikipedia" of starcraft 2 without the game? Please be serious..


I basically add players that give interviews and say that they plan to play a lot or add people who achieve things at tournaments (and featured showmatches)
I am not good with quotes
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