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On May 19 2009 13:47 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2009 16:18 Qatol wrote:
Bodyguard - Bodyguards are the protectors of the elected roles. As long as they remain alive the Mayor and Pardoner are both immune to all hits during the night. Bodyguards will not know who each other are, the elected roles will not know who they are, and they will be chosen from towny's after the Mayor chooses who to lynch. For all purposes the bodyguards gain no special abilities. You show up as Towny for all Rolechecks. Emphasis mine.
whats your point?
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On May 19 2009 13:49 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 13:47 Ace wrote:On May 19 2009 13:47 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On May 14 2009 16:18 Qatol wrote:
Bodyguard - Bodyguards are the protectors of the elected roles. As long as they remain alive the Mayor and Pardoner are both immune to all hits during the night. Bodyguards will not know who each other are, the elected roles will not know who they are, and they will be chosen from towny's after the Mayor chooses who to lynch. For all purposes the bodyguards gain no special abilities. You show up as Towny for all Rolechecks. Emphasis mine. whats your point? he means to say its really strange that both BGs died. It could be luck.
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I'll let you say that to yourself 20 times and see if you still believe it.
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Sorry Ver, but your logic doesn't add up.
You mentioning amber[light] to me as a possible inactive had everything to do with you perceiving me as thinking he was inactive - hence all you have to do is mention him to me. So once you come with your defense of "but if I was mafia - why!?" obviously I'd say oh shit! That makes sense!
But then you come out of no where and lynch infinity21, whom you never even told me you were going to lynch. I never even told you I was going to bed, so I never got a PM from you asking your input about him. Surely if you cared enough to ask about MBH and amber[light] you'd do the same for infinity21 right? Right.
Strike One.
Now let's get to your defense of nemy. In fact I don't have to because it's pretty much nonsense. If nemy is the traitor keep him alive - rofl? And lynch who instead? Remember when I said I read posts objectively?
LOL.
Strike Two.
Ahh and now let's get to this bodyguard scenario. Lucaswoj dying, shit man what the fuck? Now we all know I think Lucas is pretty bad in most cases. So who the hell would want to kill him? You mean in a game with all these good players HE is hit first? Ok I guess, *shrug*. Whoa hold on - the only other Bodyguard is hit also!? Oh dear. That means they'd want someone in office dead. How did they find out? Well, easy - the bodyguards told the Mayor. See, I'm guessing Lucas in his very excited behavior as he's always hyper PM'd you and revealed his role. Lucas is always trusting of authority like that. In fact I bet he didn't even READ the updated role descriptions because that's just the kind of thing he'd not do. So of all the 30 people playing and much better targets 2 out of the 3 deaths hit the only 2 people standing in my way of putting the rape on Mafia? Yea, your right it's laughable I'm questioning you - NOT!
Strike 3.
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
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Stop with the behavior analysis bullshit. There's no way someone "acts like a bodyguard". Especially since you know - they haven't had the role for that long for people to be analyzing their posts even if it were possible.
The chance of hitting 2 bodyguards is a whopping 2 out of 870 in this game, or 1 out of 435 for you anal math people. I'm not going with the luck factor. So your #2 and #3 explanations are out the door.
However you are spot on about #1 - they did roleclaim. To you. Sucker.
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Whats that?
You hear it guys?
Yep, sounds like grave digging to me.
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Oh don't worry, Ver has lots of things he needs to clear up. Like if he was so sure nemy wasn't red, why didn't he just ask for the only other remaining DT to rolecheck nemy on Day 2, and role check another person on Day 3/4 and ask for that guy to be his mouthpiece if nemy flips red.
But of course ya know, Ver is too busy with tons of PMs about nothing to figure this out.
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On May 19 2009 14:32 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 14:29 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:27 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:22 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:16 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:12 Incognito wrote:
Thus supporting the idea that he's most likely traitor dont ya think? He wants to kill you obviously because it would sabotage the town. Eliminate both elected positions. For free. No mafia deaths necessary. If he was traitor then how would he get them killed? That would mean he found a mafia member, which i don't know how good you have to be to find someone that is mafia and tell them with out the worry of accidentally telling a person who is not mafia and blowing your traitor r/c cover. What??? Well this was in response to Ver so maybe you got confused since Ace posted right before me? Anyway I meant that Ver is likely traitor the way he's playing now. If he were mafia, this is quite frankly poor play. But if he were traitor, it would make sense. I'm not saying he told anyone he is traitor. But presumably Ver could have planned to get Ace killed (by the mafia) by killing off the BGs. BGs are dead, so both Ver and Ace can be night killed. Then both our elected town offices are down the drain, and Ace is dead (if he is town). Ver would also be dead, but it doesn't matter since he doesnt affect mafia KP. He would have wasted the two days for the town to eliminate him and thrown the town into chaos. Using L's terms, its a good risk to reward ratio isnt it? Nice play my friend. *edit...apparently the ":" sign before the "r" makes some weird smiley? The traitor thing doesn't make sense! Unless Traitor's role changed since the last time i looked at it. He can't kill people. He would have to mafia do it for him. *sigh* He doesn't actually kill Ace he just allows Ace to be killed by the mafia. Since now there's no more BG protection .........i dont know what you are trying to qoute for or sighing about. I think there is some miss communication between us.
/facepalm
and you were doing so well too
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Of course L, he PM'd me the same thing. In fact he kept PMing me and every time he was getting worried about Ver and told me he was trying to contact him. For a guy with 62 PMs he sure didn't pay attention to the little people. Who the hell was he talking to? Like he said in a Veteran game surely nobody would role claim - so why does he have so many PMs?
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On May 19 2009 14:36 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 14:34 Ace wrote:On May 19 2009 14:32 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:29 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:27 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:22 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:16 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:12 Incognito wrote:
Thus supporting the idea that he's most likely traitor dont ya think? He wants to kill you obviously because it would sabotage the town. Eliminate both elected positions. For free. No mafia deaths necessary. If he was traitor then how would he get them killed? That would mean he found a mafia member, which i don't know how good you have to be to find someone that is mafia and tell them with out the worry of accidentally telling a person who is not mafia and blowing your traitor r/c cover. What??? Well this was in response to Ver so maybe you got confused since Ace posted right before me? Anyway I meant that Ver is likely traitor the way he's playing now. If he were mafia, this is quite frankly poor play. But if he were traitor, it would make sense. I'm not saying he told anyone he is traitor. But presumably Ver could have planned to get Ace killed (by the mafia) by killing off the BGs. BGs are dead, so both Ver and Ace can be night killed. Then both our elected town offices are down the drain, and Ace is dead (if he is town). Ver would also be dead, but it doesn't matter since he doesnt affect mafia KP. He would have wasted the two days for the town to eliminate him and thrown the town into chaos. Using L's terms, its a good risk to reward ratio isnt it? Nice play my friend. *edit...apparently the ":" sign before the "r" makes some weird smiley? The traitor thing doesn't make sense! Unless Traitor's role changed since the last time i looked at it. He can't kill people. He would have to mafia do it for him. *sigh* He doesn't actually kill Ace he just allows Ace to be killed by the mafia. Since now there's no more BG protection .........i dont know what you are trying to qoute for or sighing about. I think there is some miss communication between us. /facepalm and you were doing so well too I might have just missed something. All i am saying is, Ver can't be traitor if you saying he offed his BG's. That would mean he found a mafia that trusted he was actually a traitor and trusted him and avoided talking to a townie who figured out he was traitor through pms or w/e. Point is, if Ver helped cause these deaths, then he is mafia. Though i think it could be possible luck what happened. But Traitor to me seems unlikely.
Almost, but you still forgot one scenario:
Ver isn't a traitor - he's mafia.
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On May 19 2009 14:38 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 14:36 Ace wrote:
Of course L, he PM'd me the same thing. In fact he kept PMing me and every time he was getting worried about Ver and told me he was trying to contact him. For a guy with 62 PMs he sure didn't pay attention to the little people. Who the hell was he talking to? Like he said in a Veteran game surely nobody would role claim - so why does he have so many PMs? He is mayor after all. Remember when Qatol was mayor? He got mad PMs even though he wasn't confirmed also.
ohhhh now you're thinking 
So even if the Mayor isn't confirmed, it shows that people may still send him info like a certain few people did last game right Caller?
Now start putting it all together.
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On May 19 2009 14:41 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 14:38 Ace wrote:On May 19 2009 14:36 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:34 Ace wrote:On May 19 2009 14:32 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:29 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:27 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:22 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:16 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:12 Incognito wrote:
Thus supporting the idea that he's most likely traitor dont ya think? He wants to kill you obviously because it would sabotage the town. Eliminate both elected positions. For free. No mafia deaths necessary. If he was traitor then how would he get them killed? That would mean he found a mafia member, which i don't know how good you have to be to find someone that is mafia and tell them with out the worry of accidentally telling a person who is not mafia and blowing your traitor r/c cover. What??? Well this was in response to Ver so maybe you got confused since Ace posted right before me? Anyway I meant that Ver is likely traitor the way he's playing now. If he were mafia, this is quite frankly poor play. But if he were traitor, it would make sense. I'm not saying he told anyone he is traitor. But presumably Ver could have planned to get Ace killed (by the mafia) by killing off the BGs. BGs are dead, so both Ver and Ace can be night killed. Then both our elected town offices are down the drain, and Ace is dead (if he is town). Ver would also be dead, but it doesn't matter since he doesnt affect mafia KP. He would have wasted the two days for the town to eliminate him and thrown the town into chaos. Using L's terms, its a good risk to reward ratio isnt it? Nice play my friend. *edit...apparently the ":" sign before the "r" makes some weird smiley? The traitor thing doesn't make sense! Unless Traitor's role changed since the last time i looked at it. He can't kill people. He would have to mafia do it for him. *sigh* He doesn't actually kill Ace he just allows Ace to be killed by the mafia. Since now there's no more BG protection .........i dont know what you are trying to qoute for or sighing about. I think there is some miss communication between us. /facepalm and you were doing so well too I might have just missed something. All i am saying is, Ver can't be traitor if you saying he offed his BG's. That would mean he found a mafia that trusted he was actually a traitor and trusted him and avoided talking to a townie who figured out he was traitor through pms or w/e. Point is, if Ver helped cause these deaths, then he is mafia. Though i think it could be possible luck what happened. But Traitor to me seems unlikely. Almost, but you still forgot one scenario: Ver isn't a traitor - he's mafia. What? Why wouldn't he off his BGs as a traitor? He could just be attempting to make mass chaos. And he did say that if he were traitor he would make mass chaos.
uh...I didn't say he wouldnt.
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Once again, just like last game and every other game ever ignore anything Vivi57 posts. He has NO IDEA what he is talking about. Don't even respond to it.
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Double Lynch for what. No need to rush anything.
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Guess this means nemy and Ver are gonna die then. Oh well.
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I did, Im just being off handed about it
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He's not a confirmed DT stop saying that nonsense.
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Haven't you guys learned anything about clue checks yet?
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Being that you know, most of the roles are green in this game it's kinda obvious I'd most likely be green don't ya think? 
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also that last part of your post makes no sense
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Actually your jumping to a conclusion there
I can't auto spot if MBH is mafia, likewise he can't do the same to me no matter how much he tries to convince you all. The reason I'd auto Pardon him on a Day 1 lynch from Ver isn't because I know he's green but because I'm not sure he's mafia- hence I wouldn't want to risk losing a powerful player so early.
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