EPTBut wouldn't it be cool if town got a perfect game?
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But wouldn't it be cool if town got a perfect game? | ||
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A single perfect win would not mean an imbalance... it'd just mean that the mafia did not play well and did not take advantage of opportunities when they resented themselves. | ||
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How could they expect to win? | ||
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Even now... when I am asking for other people's opinions... the only ones to come out and talk about it are completely confirmed townies like Pyrrhuloxia and Fishball and the same people who have been bouncing ideas off of each other all game. Mafia has let this happen since day one. Hiding and lurking does not work for mafia. They are letting the town build up a list and circle of our own confirmed town members that is completely unknown to them. As soon as one or more blues become public, the mafia needs to act immediately to create suspicion. They didn't. And now they will lose. | ||
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The combination of profile picture to the "loud crack" clues and his voting/posting in this thread really does it for me. Especially since the tesla coil has to do with teleportation with the magnetic wall theory (may I remind you that a magnet was also used in the clues to deactivate a cell phone), and teleportation seems to be how the mafia member in the clues is appearing at these locations to kill the victims, since he is never seen before the loud crack. I think lynching Jyvblamo may be a mistake (though it could still be a good lynch) I just feel more sure about ahswtini. Whoever between them that doesn't get lynched today will likely be looked into during the night phase. (first vote still being on MasterofChaos) | ||
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Day/Night One: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2009 05:36 ahswtini wrote: Can mafia target their own this game? This is when plan were being discussed and everyone was poking holes everywhere. This is all ahswtini ever had to say about any of those long pages of arguments. Mafia are the ones who should be most concerned about what mafia can or cannot do. On March 20 2009 02:39 ahswtini wrote: LOL nice lynch, still reading up Though it is not a tell on it’s own it is always more likely for mafia members to make comments like this about deaths that happen throughout the game. Examples of this would be things like ‘Oh, sucks we lost a Medic’ or “Yes, we got one of the Mafia’ and other things like that. To support my claim, already known Mafia Mandalor also made a good lynch post about RebirthofLegend on the First day. They do this to try to appear that they are pro-town, but an actual town member should not need to do this to appear as such. Also on the first lynch, which was reported as random, it would be more common for other to chime in with a nice job sort of post, but as you will see, most of those people do not continue these sorts of posts as the lynches go by, but ahswtini does. On March 21 2009 04:01 ahswtini wrote: Morning should be coming soon, I'm pretty lost as to all this vigilante discussion, going to reread everything :S As stated in the thread already, mafia are the ones most likely to be impatient as it gets close to morning… they want to see which roles they killed. Day/Night Two and Beyond: + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2009 07:37 ahswtini wrote: What do you mean by 'very opposite their normal abilities'? This was in regards to some discussion being brought up about mafia activity based upon the first Mafia lynch’s perceived activity in the thread as an observer at the time. He is again curious about the mafia’s abilities/behavior. I think he is looking to get guidance on how he should act to not be seen in the same camp as his dead comrade. On March 21 2009 20:37 ahswtini wrote: We've really got nothing else to go on so far  The only other thing I have is..are all pretty old things. Of course, that points to SoG, so I have big doubts. Oh, and also The only real link I can find to theatre is Bockit's rank icon. Nothing solid at all to go on, but I'm still analysing Seems like a stretch to me in his clue analysis, trying to pick off people who are legitimate threats to Mafia. Hopefully most people realize by now that these are not clues for me and that I am assured to be innocent by now. On March 21 2009 20:55 ahswtini wrote: Good find! This is mostly just a meaningless post that is feigning being supportive. This was also mentioned already and shortly after the post in exhibit here. Another “good find” post. This is another way to try and put suspicion on someone who is now perceived as a threat to the mafia (and who might have just been perceived as crazy by some beforehand). He is accusing a lot of the figureheads who have been doing most of the work in scouring the town of mafia. On March 24 2009 05:01 ahswtini wrote: Good lynch guys  As for rice, very nicely summed up there. I'm not sure if it's worth a vigi hit on him (we only have 2 left?) so a cluecheck followed by a lynch is the best course of action imo. Another ‘Good lynch” post. This was explained as being suspicious by me earlier. We knew the lynch was going to be good… no need to comment on it really. Some analysis of Ahswtini by BloodyC0bbler a few game-days ago + Show Spoiler + On March 24 2009 17:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As for Pika Chu's killer on quick look at the fusion blog i noticed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ahswtini Posting the rice analysis there, which to my knowledge has been pushed back a bit, yet he only wanted it mentioned there, as opposed to all the other analysis done. He has also spent the game being "active" where in he will post as he should, but adds no inherent content to them, merely congrats, or the like. He then tried to convince a vig to use their hit on rice or if nothing else, we lynch him. We have had better targets than rice, yet he wont get off it, seems odd to not continue with the town. ALso, if you look in his profile picture, It is an antenna like object with lightning coming from it. and the current could fuck with a phones harddrive. It however also could work with the trident being the weapon of choice in this case as well, the pole goes up, and then has 4 charges breaking off, one of which goes straight down the pole base however, seemingly giving the pole 3 points of electricity, making it look like a trident. On March 25 2009 03:44 ahswtini wrote: If you read back, the last time I mentioned Rice was right after redtooth's analysis of him. That's it, I'm hardly going against the town here. Also note that I warned against a vigilante hit on him. There are now much better suspects with the Day 3 clues, and I haven't mentioned Rice again. This was ahswtini’s response to the above. On March 27 2009 02:49 ahswtini wrote: Sweetass lynches :D I know I’ve seen this before from him. None of his posts seems to be extremely helpful to the town. T is a lot of supporting other people and piggybacking off what others do, aka trying to blend in. In addition to this as being suspicious on its own, but not entirely incriminating, many of his posts are suspicious actions in themselves. Coming soon: Ahswtini’s voting history and why it further makes him a mafia suspect. | ||
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Before you rabidly click on that first spoiler, let me make a statement. Most mafia will generally not be at the beginning of the bandwagon, because this will make them stand out more. They are more likely to vote when the votes are about three fifths of the way there, after a bandwagon has been established but before they are the last ones to the party. If we look at the mafia we have already caught we find that this generally hold true (go ahead and research other mafia games for this trend as well, you’ll find it to be rather common among less experience players who are playing as mafia). In addition to this, a lot of newer mafia players will tend to follow what others do. This makes it seem as if they were not the ones to suggest it, that they just went along with everything and can easily redirect and blame that comes their way on the guy they were following. In a similar vein, many newer mafia members will also follow what the other mafia members are doing. After all, they are on the same team so why shouldn’t they work together. Unfortunately this subtle way of working together, even among large groups like this one, tends to stick out to those who are looking for it. REMEMBER, none of these are surefire ways to catch a mafia, but when a lot of them stack together it often is more than just coincidence, but a behavior result of a player who is playing a mafia role. + Show Spoiler + BloodyC0bbler Fishball (Vigilante) (3-17, 12:51) Chaoser (3-17, 13:03) Jyvblamo (3-17, 13:28) Pyrrhuloxia (3-18, 03:44) Zeks (3-18, 08:28) CynanMachae (3-18, 10:00) (Retracted 3-18, 12:53) 3 Lions (3-18, 10:17) Ahswtini (3-19, 01:35) MasterOfChaos (3-19 06:08) Ra.Xor.2 (3-19, 06:29) Semioldguy Phrujbaz (3-17, 19:55) 0cz3c (3-18, 00:39) Mista (3-18, 00:44) TruthBringer (3-18, 09:03) Caller (3-18, 09:57) (Retracted 3-19, 06:42) TranceStorm (3-18, 10:31) CynanMachae (3-18, 12:53) ZaplinG (3-19, 04:28) JeeJee (3-19, 04:44) LucasWoJ (3-19, 05:33) Ydg (3-19, 11:17) MrBabyHands (3-19, 11:25) Pyrrhuloxia Fusionsdf (3-17, 23:28) Teejing (3-18, 06:06) LaXerCannon (3-18, 07:30) Motbob (3-18, 13:16) Naib (3-19, 05:12) Bumatlarge (3-19, 08:27) Monoxide (3-19, 08:34) iLoveKTF (3-19, 10:13) MrBabyHands Ace (3-18, 10:02) Caller (3-19, 06:42) Bockit (3-19, 07:19) Nemy (3-19, 13:53) Caller Nemy Ace (3-17, 15:50) (Retracted 3-17, 16:15) + Show Spoiler + Votes in order. Just a different view of the timings in how everything falls into place. Fishball (Vigilante) (3-17, 12:51) (for BC) Chaoser (3-17, 13:03) (for BC) Jyvblamo (3-17, 13:28) (for BC) Ace (3-17, 15:50) (for NMY) (Retracted 3-17, 16:15) Phrujbaz (3-17, 19:55) (for SOG) Fusionsdf (3-17, 23:28) (for PYR) 0cz3c (3-18, 00:39) (for SOG) Mista (3-18, 00:44) (for SOG) Pyrrhuloxia (3-18, 03:44) (for BC) Teejing (3-18, 06:06) (for PYR) LaXerCannon (3-18, 07:30) (for PYR) Zeks (3-18, 08:28) (for BC) TruthBringer (3-18, 09:03) (for SOG) Caller (3-18, 09:57) (for SOG) (Retracted 3-19, 06:42) CynanMachae (3-18, 10:00) (for BC) (Retracted 3-18, 12:53) Ace (3-18, 10:02) (for MBH) 3 Lions (3-18, 10:17) (for BC) TranceStorm (3-18, 10:31) (for SOG) CynanMachae (3-18, 12:53) (for SOG) Motbob (3-18, 13:16) (for PYR) Ahswtini (3-19, 01:35) (for BC) ZaplinG (3-19, 04:28) (for SOG) JeeJee (3-19, 04:44) (for SOG) Naib (3-19, 05:12) (for PYR) LucasWoJ (3-19, 05:33) (for SOG) MasterOfChaos (3-19 06:08) (for BC) Ra.Xor.2 (3-19, 06:29) (for BC) Caller (3-19, 06:42) (for MBH) Bockit (3-19, 07:19) (for MBH) Bumatlarge (3-19, 08:27) (for PYR) Monoxide (3-19, 08:34) (for PYR) iLoveKTF (3-19, 10:13) (for PYR) Ydg (3-19, 11:17) (for SOG) MrBabyHands (3-19, 11:25) (for SOG) Nemy (3-19, 13:53) (for MBH) I didn’t do timestamps for the other days because it was mostly agreed upon who the lynch targets would be for each day… leading to a vast majority of the voters all voting for the same person who has always turned up as mafia so far (and I plan for that trend to continue again today) Day Two Voting + Show Spoiler + (in order of placing votes) Mandalor MrBabyHands Semioldguy (Detective) Rage Pyrrhuloxia Rice Bockit LucasWoJ Dreamflower Mikeymoo Monoxide Fusionsdf Ahswtini 3 Lions Aznvaliance Ra.Xor.2 Chaoser Pika Chu JeeJee Zeks LaXerCannon IcySoul 0cz3c blue_arrow Motbob iLoveKTF Nemy CynanMachae Here on Day two Ahswtini was active during the time of my role claim and made several posts in the thread while not placing a vote until much later. By the time he placed his vote mandalor has already come forward to defend himself against MrBabyHands and was brutally defeated in what could only be described as a complete and utter ownage. It is only after this point that ahswtini votes his fellow mafia member out. He didn’t want to jump on too early in case his fellow mafia partner might have been somehow saved, but then didn’t want to jump on too late in an effort to try blending in. Day Three Voting + Show Spoiler + Scooter Pyrrhuloxia TruthBringer JeeJee aZnvaLiaNce Fishball (Vigilante) semioldguy (Detective) motbob Bockit RaGe Night[Mare BloodyC0bbler Icysoul blue_arrow chaoser 0cz3c ahswtini Rice fusionsdf LucasWoJ CynanMachae 3 Lions LaXerCannon iLoveKTF ydg nemY Naib Ra.Xor.2 LeperKhan BloodyC0bbler blue_arrow Pyrrhuloxia chaoser ahswtini Rice CynanMachae 3 Lions LaXerCannon iLoveKTF ydg Caller Bockit RaGe Naib Night[Mare bumatlarge redtooth Ra.Xor.2 Again he doesn’t hop on right away (Leperkahn was started much later in the day and bth votes were made simultaneously), despite certain confirmation. He waits until the middle again. Day Four Voting + Show Spoiler + Humbug semioldguy (Detective) chaoser Rice Icysoul TruthBringer Caller Ra.Xor.2 BloodyC0bbler LucasWoJ Mista Night[Mare JeeJee Pyrrhuloxia nemY fusionsdf ahswtini aZnvaLiaNce Ace LaXerCannon Bockit LucasWoJ bumatlarge RaGe ydg Monoxide Naib blue_arrow MasterOfChaos 3 Lions TranceStorm CynanMachae He is voting by the same pattern again. | ||
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Why am I looking at a game review? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I mean..uh... they shouldn't give up. Never give up! Never surrender! | ||
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On April 03 2009 14:12 ydg wrote: You guys never suspected me though  If you look through the posts I suspected you... though you weren't high on my list. | ||
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When I was a Detective I realized pretty much right away that I wanted to be elected to one of the positions so that I could immediately role-claim. DT's exist to want to claim their roles, since their information is most useful to the town when they can share it publicly. Normally this would put a big, fat target on their head, but the automatic protection from the BG's meant that I could role-claim myself much more easily. None of the other roles want to role claim nearly as badly or share their information until they are on the chopping block. | ||
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