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Qatol

United States3165 Posts

March 20 2009 02:59 GMT

#715

On March 20 2009 11:54 Ver wrote:

You're right for some reason I thought we didn't include that this game.

I need to read the first page more thoroughly -_-

This isn't my specialty and I have other things to prepare so I'll let the people eager do this point out clearly the important potential clue sentences DTs should ask about.

Since nobody else is takling about this, I will get things started:
The guy offering to help Chuiu up
The guy charging at Chuiu while having his hands behind his head
The third guy not getting out of the car
The shockwave from the builiding explosion (I highly doubt this is a clue, but it was discussed)
The item Incognito finding staying lost

If anyone has a better idea, please post it.

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

March 20 2009 20:12 GMT

#786

I'll add my information about Caller.

Here is a series of PMs exchanged before the game started:
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From: Caller
Subject: Re: mafia vote
Date: 3/12/09 09:47
i'm way too old/lazy/busy for this lololol
i'm not actually intent on running i'm just trolling this time

hahahahaha

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Original Message:
My vote for mayor goes to the person who gets the most TL staff/former TL staff to join the game. BC is already ahead of you! (Kennigit and Rage)

Dunno, I just want more people who will be active and it seemed like an easy way to decide who to vote for in the mayor race while I'm at it.

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Original Message:
lol what

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Original Message:
The person running who recruits the most staff members for the game (MoC and Bockit don't count) gets my vote. Sound fun?

Basically I was telling him I would give my vote to the person who recruited the most staff members. The key thing to notice here is that he says that he isn't planning on actually running.

Then Caller makes this post:

On March 17 2009 12:12 Caller wrote:
Game started, I got my role.

I continue my campaigning efforts for Sheriff.

Which seemed pretty suspicious to me. He continued to campaign for another 4 or 5 pages before making this post:

On March 18 2009 04:27 Caller wrote:
Due to being really, really, lazy, I'm withdrawing my candidacy for Sheriff.

So I sent him this PM:
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From: Caller
Subject: Re: mafia vote
Date: 3/18/09 05:01
BW lol

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Original Message:
Haha what took you so long to withdraw?

Basically a cop-out. This behavior seems pretty suspicious to me. However, this should still be considered a lower priority case than Mandalor or Scaramanga. It is something to consider for later though.

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

March 21 2009 04:01 GMT

#810

Lucas, I'm going to say this as neutrally as I can. Ver's activity is always spotty like that. He acted the exact same way during the game setup.

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

March 21 2009 04:50 GMT

#821

Wow so apparently the medics can't take a hint at all -_-. Oh well, good luck town.

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

April 03 2009 18:35 GMT

#1668

MoC you took a pretty big gamble on me by not double hitting night. I figured I had about a 50/50 of getting a medic night 1 and the plan was to have me incarcerated day 2. We were almost positive that the hit was coming, and if I survivied, it meant that we triggered the medic plan right away. I guess you had to gamble though. It was decently likely that Ver would get 2 medics also which was why he was second on the incarceration list. Why didn't you ever try to put a hit on Ace? Did you just figure that he would be protected every night?

I agree that you didn't have many players in the mafia who could have run for office on name value alone. Because of that, I think you probably should have proposed some sort of plan to try and get into office Ace-style. I was actually kinda worried you would pull something like that, which was why I helped BC propose the medic plan he ran on. Medics, vigis and incarceration were the only ways I could think of to confirm innocents in this game until after the GF died.

Funny thing to note: if Pyrr had been confirmed after he took his hit and survived, that hit confirmed MBH as well. MBH was incarcerated but that hit accounted for all of the mafia hits. The mafia were at a population where if they lost 1 member, their KP was decreased. Since it was not, MBH HAD to have been town.

The biggest reason this game seemed imbalanced in my view was that the DTs managed to get in contact with each other really early. Coordinated (secret) DTs with a mouth that cannot be killed is a HUGE blow to the mafia. Once that happened, the game was basically over. This involved a lot of luck and the mafia being pretty passive. The game probably would have seemed a lot more balanced if that hadn't have happened.

I'm pretty surprised that most medics decided not to follow Ace's zodiac plan. I'm curious why they decided to do that. Could you guys explain please?

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

April 03 2009 19:19 GMT

#1671

Oh your protections made total sense to me. You were one of the players who recognized MBH as a significant asset for the town early (AND you followed the plan because he was on the list). In fact, if I were mafia, you would have outsmarted me with that prot. I had MBH pegged as a strong player that probably wouldn't get protection UNLESS either you or versatile was medic.

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

December 04 2011 20:22 GMT

#1692

On December 05 2011 05:16 bumatlarge wrote:
lol how did I not get modkilled this game?

There were no modkills in these games. Modkills weren't introduced until Mafia 8.

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