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On October 25 2008 18:46 Bockit wrote: It's ok I'm pretty sure plexa will die either first night or first lynch that's so true ;] | ||
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On October 30 2008 01:09 Chezinu wrote: oops, 7 days then.I was thinking mafia only needed to kill 21 townies (become more than half of town) instead of 31 (outnumber town). My bad. 31/5= 6.2. uhm? if town kills no mafia, then 6 townies die every day (5 killed by mafia, 1 by town), so after 5 days 30 townies are killed and only 10 remain, along with 10 mafia -> mafia win | ||
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On November 01 2008 20:24 Mynock wrote: Why the hell. 3 times this game, no special role yet. WTF randomizer are you guys using?  yeah T_T | ||
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On November 02 2008 04:14 Unforgiven wrote: hey guys, im not mafia this time! Well, you were a mafia all three times, and I was a townie all three times... So we can assume that always "me being townie" => "you being mafia"  Because I'm a townie once again, you should be mafia once again, so we're gonna kill you anyway | ||
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On November 02 2008 23:21 Caller wrote: 22. aZnvaLiaNce (weak to moderate) "Whoever wins, the battle does not end. The loser is set free from the battlefield, while the winner must remain there. And the survivor will live out his life as the warrior until the day he dies." -Big Boss aka Naked Snake "Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch This seems to me like a viable connection, aZnvaLiaNce should definately be watched. Vengeance was the theme couldn't this link to Unforgiven? (again ) | ||
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On November 03 2008 07:05 Scorch wrote: What if we lynch someone with a meaningless name and profile, like ulszz, KH1031, ZBiR or KF91? If one of these is mafia, the clues will have to be so obscure that they'll be hard to pin down. Of course that only makes sense as long as we don't really have anything better to do. About my name - you can see where I'm from, don't you think it could be useful to check what it means in my language if there's no such word in English? It's far from meaningless. Also, I already said what it means in the previous game. | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:40 Chuiu wrote: [red][b]I have made clues based on posts in the past, these are usually the hardest to find so they tend to go unnoticed. You mean posts in this thread? Or anywhere? | ||
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On November 03 2008 23:37 Ace wrote: how the hell is Folca useful if he's mafia? None of you can tell me WHY you believe Folca is a legit DT. Have you a found a clue that points to me? no Have you found out a way to see if Folca is legit? no And logic dictates that if anyone steps up as a DT and accuses someone and their validity can't be proven then they get lynched because otherwise mafia will always fake claim DT with no consequence. You guys are making no sense and you know it. It's like no matter what the best possible move is the plan is to lynch decaf. Logic also tells mafia to NOT pretend to be detectives and accuse someone like that, since it will only get them killed first. This makes me think, while I'm far from being certain that Folca speaks the truth, that he's more likely to be legit than not. Also, I completely agree with Alventenie, I don't understand why so many people work against him when obviosly letting Folca live one night gives us additional information and takes almost nothing in return. One thing I disagree is that MidnightGladius or Aznvaliance is a more viable lynch target, as both link greatly to that "accepting the change that is death" or sth clue. However, primary thing for me today is to keep Folca alive, so I will vote decaf, as he has way more votes than Gladius and Azn, and I think he's also possible as mafia, although not that strong. ## I vote to lynch decafchicken. (expect this to change when Gladius has more votes) | ||
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[b]## I change my vote from decafchicken to Ace.[\b] | ||
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On November 04 2008 17:46 Ace wrote: it doesnt matter what you think. Hindsight is 20/20. Lynching Folca first was best for the town as he was an unproven DT. Stop trying to blame other people because they were smarter than you. Seriously, you could stop playing a retard now. Just post some "muahahaha, I owned you n00bz", compile your list, wait for the day and die. | ||
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On November 04 2008 17:44 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: araav folca was gonna die regardless either tonight or next day yeah, but then (in case Folca was legit, which came true): a) mafia would kill him, thus sparing some townie (and changing that Ace-Folca 50-50 dispute to 100% Ace=mafia agreement hopefully) b) mafia wouldn't kill him, not wanting to expose Ace that early - so we would get some information from him, and he would die day 2 Seriously, Alventenie's idea was the best (about not killing Folca tonight, cause I don't think decaf was the best suspect). | ||
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On November 04 2008 22:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well, atm if ace is mafia he did his job by slowing us for 1 day on day 2 , we should not waste our lynch on him why? 1) eveeryone will vote for Ace so there wont be any information with the vote count thats almost certain , so we would have lost 2 day/night circle to kill 1 mafia? not that good to me. 2) we should ask vigi to kill him at night (remember that even if 3 vigi goes on him, 2 of them wont work and wont be lost) What im trying to say is that we will lose important information from the day 2 lynch if we kill ace cuz as we have seen today almost none of us respected the instruction we had all agreed on and we will also lose information on voting pattern That's a good idea, however it should be certain that a vigilante will frag him (and of course no one is saying that he, as a vigi, will do it). Probably it's gonna be dependant on clues we'll get tonight, if there's something more going for Aznvaliance, Midnightgladius or Decafchicken we should follow it and act as you say. | ||
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On November 04 2008 23:20 HeRoS)Pink wrote: dont worry about a vigi going after ace, if we could kill on day 1 ,ace would already die tonigt and yeah, we have to wait for a second set of clues before thinking who do we lynch tomorrow You know that posting like this somewhat suggests you're a vigi ?Unless you're a vet I'd advise not doing it | ||
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On November 04 2008 16:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Day one Clue analysis a) Last Meal theme b)Pleading for life theme c)"Embrace the release that death brings you" d)Vengence theme e)“We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town." + Show Spoiler [C0bbler's thoughts] + Suspects for a) Decafchicken fits it by mentioning subway in his profile, as well as his obvious name attachment Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake Bockit mentions the word vegetable in his profile KH1031 – thanksgiving mentioned in profile which is a complete meal Fantacist dog eating quote in his profile suspects for b) Lenwe – really really fucking stretched here, but his comic in his profile, is like a plead for his gf or other half in life to not leave, hence in a way pleading for his life to stay the same. Suspects for c) Plexa – quote says ones spirit will set you free, ie embrace your death Aznvaliance for his quote in profile saying the loser or dead man is set free Suspects for d) Bockit – multiplish war quotes, one directly related to ww2’s nuke attack on japan, which was done as a retaliation for pearl harbor or otherwards done for revenge Suspects for e) Fakesteve – mod/list of mods loving his fanclub, quote advocates we don’t trust people of power Midnight Gladius – quote lists a general in his profile, generals are usually well trusted. This general is also advocating change which would relate to not wanting a mayor Ace – Ace was trusted as a leader last game as he was the mayor, slim link but still there Also as a seperate clue for ace, he was fingered by our now dead detective, who said he rolechecked him. Also feel free to agree/destroy my quickly done up compilation above, i will be working on it more, but that is my initial list of people connected via day ones shady clues I'd like to point my strongest suspects here a) decafchicken - the only viable one IF it's a clue at all b) I don't think it's a clue, and if so, there's no clear connection to anyone IMO c) aZnvaLiance (MidnightGladius as a runner-up) - I think it fits very good to them both, also both were in that "Folca train" that Caller pointed out d) why the fuck I was so sure Unforgiven is in this game  then I don't know who it could link to, but it's a clue almost for suree) Ace I think, and he's already dead so we don't need to pay attention to that | ||
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On November 05 2008 00:10 Chuiu wrote: Everyone who lives in the US better vote today. And just remember who the blues (Obama) are and who the reds (McCain) are. So you should stick to the blues, or vote the reds ? | ||
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Although I have no idea how could you say 24 honestly | ||
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First possible reason is that he was just being dumb. I think we could exclude it, knowing Ace from previous game (although I would be far from calling it 100% true, cause he seemed to panic a bit after being confronted by Folca) The second reason - much more likely - is that he knew he's going to die so he didn't care about that, but killing Folca right now gave him (or rather the mafia team) additional benefit. That benefit would be saving other mafia member that was supposed to be lynched instead of Folca, namely decafchicken (or maybe Gladius, but he was really unlikely to die then). | ||
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And I'm not saying they're surefire targets, just that it's good to consider them in this light. | ||
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On November 05 2008 21:59 Ace wrote: You should let me pick who the DTs should PM. Well, since you're the most knowledgeable person here, I think it's a good idea. So, who should it be? | ||
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On November 05 2008 22:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: pretty lol that you guys have one potential detective and one potential mafia, and you only have to lynch one to find out who's lying, so you lynch the detective think before voting But this is how Ace said things should be done, and Ace is so good everybody should just listen to His word and obey His will - didn't you know that? | ||
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## I vote for decafchicken IMO it would be better to create ~3 secondary lists with 5-10 people, it would be easier to pinpoint mafia there. | ||
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On November 07 2008 20:31 Scorch wrote: We have about 20 people voting at all, and few of those comply with any plans. Victory is going to be hard to achieve this way. yeah, and that's why voting big lists won't work that much; mafia won't allow us to corner them like that. | ||
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Since nemy was revealed to be mafia, maybe day 2 clues did point to first letters of names? Then it would lead us to imDerek/iNfuNdiBuLuM and mikeymoo/MTF/MidnightGladius (since nemY and Ace are dead). MidnightGladius and iNfuNdiBuLuM are already on some suspect lists, so it's worth keeping a close eye on them. Also, I'm not mafia From this list:ZBiR Artanis[Xp] HeRoS)Pink Lenwe BloodyC0bbler I'd suspect BloodyC0bbler fo sho, although I don't know who else  nobody seems to have anything on him. | ||
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On November 09 2008 22:20 Scorch wrote: + Show Spoiler [bumatlarge's PM stuff] + [wild speculation] So let's suppose Ace wrote the PM to bumatlarge by accident. How'd he go about writing a PM? He'd probably select the receiver's name from the buddy list. Now suppose Ace misclicked and selected bumatlarge, when originally he intended someone else, perhaps a mafia very near to bumatlarge's name on the list. How is the buddy list (the drop-down box when writing a PM) ordered? Alphabetically? In the order of when friends were added? My own friend list contains only 5 people and is not representative, however in my case (maybe by coincidence!), the order is as follows: user names beginning with a capital letter sorted alpabetically, then lower-case letters ordered alpabetically: A B C ... Z a b c ... z. I don't know where numbers and special characters belong. So if names are ordered the way I think, who could be reasonably near to bumatlarge in the buddy list? XCetron Yogurt ZBiR (~OpZ~ depending on how special characters are ordered) ([GiTM]Ace depending on how special characters are ordered) araav aZnvaLiaNce clazziquai decafchicken IF KH1031 turns out to be mafia, it is safe to assume that Ace's PM to bumatlarge was in fact an accident. Then Ace selected the receiver's name from the Buddy List. You don't manually type in the wrong name by accident. IF the names are ordered the way I think (Someone please confirm!) IF Ace has all fellow mafias on his list (very likely) Then he PROBABLY intended to select someone from among the list above Which means that (at least) one of them is mafia. [/wild speculation] A lot of insecure stuff and little reasonable information, but it's better than nothing. It might be helpful later on. But notice that Ace wrote: yea well make sure for Night 2 KH sends it in it looks like he's replying to someone, no? Then if he's replying, where is the original message? And when you reply, you don't choose recipient from buddy list or whatever, he's already selected. That's why I think it's forged, in addition to the fact that Ace would make such mistake by accident. And killing bumatlarge was only supposed to lure us into his trap. | ||
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On November 09 2008 23:28 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: Artanis + Show Spoiler + I'm actually not sure why i suspect him. Prolly cause artanis was a dt(i think) and the last person got killed with blade.But its not to strong i admit Artanis was a Scout, not a DT. But I could agree on Scorch. With decaf clue being so obvious, it's possible that's the case here again. | ||
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On November 10 2008 11:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: i ask Zbir and Artanix[xp] to vote for some unknown to be able to check for mafia. Failure to do this will result in next in the line for the gallows. Firstly, I was at my girl's place for last 40+ hours, so I wasn't checking TL Secondly, you have no power whatsoever to place me "next in line for the gallows" (unless you're mafia/vigilante, which I doubt) Thirdly, since I'm far from being a suspect I don't see why I would be forced to do such things, so I won't. And lastly, I will vote in a manner I choose myself. Don't even try to give me orders, Nightmare. Good that another mafia bit the dust, too bad I couldn't contribute to it ;] | ||
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On November 12 2008 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your actually 1 of 5 suspects, and 2 of those 5 are mafia, so 20% chance. so a high suspect none the less Yeah, I'm on a totally unconfirmed list with 0 suspicious behaviour before and absolute zero clues (and, as Chuiu stated, those should be quite obvious as my profile contains almost no information that can be used to make clues). Yup, I'm so absolutely mafia it's not even funny. On November 12 2008 06:48 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: Actually BloodyC0bbler, that would 2/5 would be 40% rotfl yeah, 40% chance of me being mafia you should study mathematical statistics, I see future for you there :D | ||
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On November 12 2008 11:21 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: I hope a vigi knocks you out ZBiR. | ||
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On November 12 2008 17:30 Scorch wrote: Artanis and BloodyC0bbler voted for separate people and can easily be checked. From among the rest, ZBiR acted a bit strangely in the thread. Might he be a bad guy? zbir is bandit in Polish btw, should it be relevant for clue interpretation. I just really don't like to be told what to do  especially by people not entitled to it (and I really didn't have time to check TL at the time). But since now I don't have any serious suspect and nobody's giving me orders, I could do this:I vote for Camlito. Still I'm sure no detectice will bother to check me. Oh, and it's really unlikely that Plexa is red, trust me | ||
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That I was AFK for some time? The fact that I tend to oppose people I consider fools? (shall be obvious who am I referring to) Or maybe it's that me = bandit (well, more like thug, but w/e), and SOME MAFIA DID ACT LIKE A BANDIT?! Oh noes, who would've thought they're gonna attack people and shit... Yeah, lynch me, then lynch a blue you don't have a clue about, then get owned after 4/10 of the mafia were handed to you. GL Thanks JeeJee | ||
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On November 13 2008 07:21 ShadowDrgn wrote: This makes you sound even more like a mafia. Are the 4/10 mafia handed to us the alliteration clues? Even more reason to lynch MTF. No, I mean those that are dead? Look how hard it was to get decaf from the day 1 clue, nemy suicided kind of confirming that it's a 1st letter thing in day 2 resulting in (I'd say a luckily guessed, but maybe I'm a man of little faith) death of iNfundibulum. Also, Ace was the obvious choice to check day 1 to trade info with him. That's 4. I have no idea how in the world you would think I'm talking about people that aren't even dead (or even pointed at). | ||
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On November 13 2008 07:18 mikeymoo wrote: For me personally it's how you've been acting and how you spazzed at nightmare. But from this post, maybe you're just a spazzy person. And 4/10 were not handed to "us" (wtf "you" as in townies? why not "us"???). We worked for those, thank you. Notice how I used "you" in the hypothetical situation in the future, when I'll be dead and not a part of town anymore And I have no idea of what "spazzy" means ;] I was catching up with a crapload of posts before I wrote this one, and what struck me was Nightmare calling me to necessarily vote imDerek, which was kinda annoying to me... I'd say it was way more offensive than defensive, but meh, I was also threatened to get killed like that after not even one mention of me as a suspect. I had to oppose somehow, didn't I? | ||
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On November 13 2008 07:28 ShadowDrgn wrote: There are 5 dead. You forgot fanatacist. I didn't consider him even remotely that easy to get as the other four. | ||
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On November 13 2008 07:18 Scorch wrote: This is not a good defense. Try to be more constructive, for failing to do so is part of why people are willing to lynch you. Present us an alternative with a good reasoning, and you shall live. Well, but what can I do when I don't see any good target ? (although me is even worse than just "not good", since I'm 100% sure I'm not mafia however I may be biased about evaluating my behaviour and maybe it really could seem mafiaish to you... iono ;] )The other guys I see are being voted are Plexa and MTF. Since Plexa already mentioned he doesn't give shit about this game now I can say that we had a PM conversations Day 1 and 2, and he told me his role, also saying that Naruto is a medic and is protecting him. We already know Naruto was a medic indeed, so that leads me to believe Plexa is legit, as in the other case he would probably kill Naruto sooner (although it's not sure, moaybe he'd like him to live to have protection against vigs? not really likely I'd say). And about MTF, is there anything on him except him being on M? That's not enough to lynch in my opinion. (although if we just killed both him and mikeymoo there would be a really good chance we got a mafia? I don't know, maybe it's viable.) | ||
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On November 13 2008 08:57 Camlito wrote: Wtf ZBIR voted me haha. *Evil eyes* I won't vote just yet. I don't have anything serious against you, it was just because I became a suspect at first for not voting for a random target (wtf? yea I know). Although I won't be suprised at all when you're gonna flip red :> And I have a feeling that it was mikeymoo who PMed Mynock in the first place and now he's trying to force his plan by pretending "the other guy PMed" (but there was none). Not like it matters cause I'm going to be the one dying, but w/e I change my vote from Camlito to mikeymoo. See you next game townies... and may the GM have mercy on your char | ||
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On November 13 2008 21:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If ZBiR flips green/blue, vigis should clear the rest of the list. But you know this would mean yourself certainly dying ? | ||
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On November 14 2008 00:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Doesn't matter, I'll gladly sac myself to kill 2 mafia. And so should you. Maybe I would, if it weren't for one simple fact - I don't even believe the list is legit, it's far from being proved. | ||
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On November 14 2008 06:20 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: this is exactly why you should be lynched rotfl Nightmare, you seriously are a funny guy too bad in a non-intended way, but still, it's better to be funny than not | ||
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On November 14 2008 15:46 mikeymoo wrote: UGH. I am incredibly sorry ZBiR. RIP. I really thought you were mafia. Not a problem, it's not like I was a Jack or something | ||
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On November 19 2008 07:35 JeeJee wrote: why the hell did mafia kill me what did i ever do i never get to live past like a few days honestly =( btw gg maybe because you were "too sure" of my innocence ?also wtf Plexa, how could you fool me like that keeping medic Naruto alive for so long and saying that "decaf is 100% mafia" is not exactly what most mafias do ;] funny how the two people I exchanged PMs with happened to be scum (the other one being heros)pink, and it was me who PMed first) ;] gg indeed | ||
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On November 19 2008 12:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yeah jesus we saw through you guys from start to finish. booya so why did you PM Ace you're a medic ?On November 19 2008 13:46 KH1031 wrote: omg I think you're the first person in this game to correctly and fully state my full user name! You rock! nah, several people did so earlier (including myself )and LOL at that Nightmare quote ;P | ||
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