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What have I done? fusion, let's wait and see what other people say. | ||
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On November 07 2008 13:13 fusionsdf wrote: ok but if hes innocent we lynch you next, ok? I support this. But what if he is a DT or something and thought that this cute facade would throw suspicion off of him? Can we risk that? On November 07 2008 13:14 Mynock wrote: You don't reply to a PM and send it to the wrong person. If you reply, you already have the person in the address, so you have to manually change it in order to "accidentally" send it to somebody else. So what you're saying is either Ace faked it all the way or they are both Mafia and bum was trying to point a finger away from himself early in the game by faking it... | ||
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On November 07 2008 13:17 Mynock wrote: Just Ace having his fun... I told you to dismiss everything he says... All those role-claims he did included. Isn't it possible that the latter option I stated is true also? I can see a Mafia going out of their way to make the most out of a bad turn of events (losing Ace). EDIT: In this scenario bum would be the one faking it, and I doubt Ace is stupid enough to suggest something like this. | ||
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On November 07 2008 15:35 Jimtudor wrote: Lol, that's ironic of course now that i look at it. Just why the hell would anyone pm roles to strangers....sigh. Is this some elaborate facade to make us believe you're a vet and not a mafia? Because it's kind of failing. | ||
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Lol... You start a sentence with "Ace said..." and you expect me to believe anything that follows? | ||
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On November 07 2008 15:47 Jimtudor wrote: there will be nothing there because there is nothing there. Epic. | ||
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On November 09 2008 06:34 Amber[LighT] wrote: * Denotes people who didn't vote on Day 1 1.imDerek* 6. XCetron 19. araav 33. Yogurt 37. KH1031* 43. Plexa 44. KF91 45. FakeSteve[TPR] 49. [GiTM]-Ace 50. G.s)NarutO Only two people have never voted even once. That's not overly helpful since it will be hard to formulate clues based upon their user names. Derek is easier than KH at least. You should count abstaining as not voting. | ||
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On November 09 2008 15:25 Chuiu wrote:To finish Mandalor off he pulled the blade all the way to the other end of his stomach. Doesn't this sound kind of like a harakiri? Granted it's not suicide, but it's might be a direction we could go on in the clue. | ||
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On November 09 2008 15:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote: seeing as well, two of the two dead mafia seemed to have rather, insanely strong clues pointed towards them, Scorch would fit the bill of a link to fire and burning and Midnight Gladius for a link to a knife as per his image in his profile or araav as he has a zealot in his profile, and we all know a zealot has two blades for the link to who killed bumatlarge, it seems to be that another martial artist fought him, and as i said, going by how the clues seemed to be obvious ones, id nominate naruto as well, naruto is a shinobi in a manga, who would have the ability to fight with martial arts edit: as per duality reference, infundibulum's profile has a dog with two tennis balls, and a link to a game called gladiatus hero of rome which would explain the knives Wow, those are pretty fucking good o: | ||
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someone has PMed me claiming to be a detective, and they used a role check on fusionsdf he is mafia (if you believe the PM, which I do, since mafia doesnt gain a ton by faking it) so do we switch votes tonight, or lynch midnight gladius and lynch fusionsdf tomorrow? tl;dr: fusionsdf is mafia --- Does anyone find this asinine finger pointing as stupid as I do? Mafia does gain a ton, because like I said before they are simply working to dilute the suspects list with people who aren't mafia. They saw that MG is getting a lot of votes, didn't want to lose KP, and now have faked a PM claiming I am Mafia. Everyone bandwagons because fusionsdf posted it in the thread, I get lynched, flip green, and their KP remains the same for one more night. Let us work off of clues, not random PMs that are just as likely to be BS Mafia plots as real DT PMs. EDIT: And it's just as likely that fusionsdf made up this whole PM story in order to do the same thing, to take attention away from other likely candidates for at least another day or two. Hmm, let's see, who could that be? Any of the following: Scorch BloodyCobbler MidnightGladius, most of all. Can anyone find any clues linked to me, at all? Probably not. Why? Because I'm not Mafia. Can we find clues linked to those 3 individuals? Yes. Why? Because they are probably Mafia. THINK before you BANDWAGON, people. | ||
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On November 10 2008 12:32 fusionsdf wrote: um its not finger pointing its a DT rolecheck. If its correct, you die and we are down a mafia. If its a lie, I already have systems in place to make the name of the 'DT' public. In which case that mafia will die. Either way, a mafia is dying tonight (probably) or tomorrow (if all else fails) And what if you are a Mafia and the name of the DT is another townie (hopefully a blue), so when I turn up green (since you know I'm not Mafia), you make everyone lynch the supposed DT, who will also turn up green/blue. Kind of a beneficial circumstance, especially if someone trusted you early on like they trusted Ace and PM'd you information on our roles. Here is what I suspect is happening: DT PMs fusionsdf, tells him he is DT. Tells him the roles of people he has checked. Whether he checked me or not is unimportant, fusionsdf knows that I am definitely green/blue because HE is Mafia. fusionsdf makes this post claiming that I am a Mafia. Everyone supports it because OH MA GAWD BANDWAGON BASED ON FUSIONS' WORD LAWL. I get lynched, turn up green. fusionsdf can't be blamed by the town, since he was just the mouthpiece, right? So, fusionsdf reveals the name of the DT, DT gets lynched. Turns up blue. The town realizes they have been fucked in the ass because they lost a DT and a townie in exchange for 1 Mafia, over a (probably, assuming no vigi intervention) 2 day period. Mafia has the same KP this whole time, whittling down the town. In the end, the town has wasted 2 lynches and killed only 1 Mafia. Mafia wins, gg no re. Are you all really so blind in your bandwagon that you can't see this? | ||
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On November 10 2008 12:45 Bockit wrote: Except if the dt is legit and pm'd fusion and fusion is mafia then the dt is dead anyway as nobody knows his name for paramedics to save and mafia will definitely kill him tonight. If this is the scenario the dt is lost anyay so it's just tossing up between you and fusion. That said, this situation is so implausible it's not funny. Why would a REAL dt (because this situation you're describing requires a REAL dt) pm a random townie with FALSE information (which is what is required if you are green/blue as per the circumstances you describe), he is risking everything for NO GAIN (town lynches a blue/green instead of a red) and also his own life when he is so important. You misunderstand. A real DT PM'd him about some finding he had, trusting fusionsdf to be his mouthpiece (without rolechecking HIM first, obviously, kind of like how people PM'd Ace). Fusions is a Mafia, and finds out that _____ is a DT. He puts out false information to stall the town's lynches, get rid of a DT, and a green/blue (me) at the same time. After what happened with Ace, is it really so hard to imagine? Come on Bockit, I thought you would understand at least the theory behind this. | ||
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FanatIcism, maybe. Fanatacist, no. It's a bastardization of a Russian word that me and my friends used as a band name back in the day. EDIT: On November 10 2008 12:45 fusionsdf wrote: well there is another factor which makes this unlikely, but I cant reveal it to town, because that would benefit mafia. fanatacist, if a real DT PMed me a name, and I take that name and replace it with fanatacist, the DT can speak up and say a) this original target is mafia and b) fusionsdf changed the target, so he is mafia as well. then we trade 2 mafia for a green and a blue yeah not a good deal for the mafia How convenient. I'm assuming they didn't PM you a name but a list analysis. If it was a name and you did that, he would have done as you just described. | ||
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On November 10 2008 12:55 Bockit wrote: I misinterpreted what you meant then. Except again, you're missing something important there. The real dt can now speak up. In fact, if this is the case (that fusion is a mafia and is putting forward the false name), I ask for the dt to speak up so that we don't lose a green/blue. If this is the correct scenario, you are going to die anyway (fusion is a mafia and you are now known as a dt). If this happens (the dt who pm'd fusion calls out fusion as a liar), you're clean fanatacist. I have my doubts at this stage. You probably wrote this as I made my edit above, so I will just restate that it is possible that the DT sent a list analysis and not a specific name. It was probably an incriminating analysis for a Mafia (fusionsdf) to pull this out of the hat, although like I also mentioned earlier, wasting time, greens, and a DT for the sake of ONE Mafia (while other suspects like MG and whoever is on this list keep on living) is more than worth it. There is no real reason for me to be a DT either, I don't see where you pulled that from. I am not a DT, I am not Mafia, I am just a townie who can see through the shit curtain being pulled down to cover up MG as soon as that bandwagon started rolling, probably clearer than many of you because I am obviously not going to be joining a bandwagon to lynch myself since I know I'm green. | ||
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On November 10 2008 12:57 Bockit wrote: Why do people keep using this argument of what their names *actually* mean, to them. How you interpret your name is completely irrelevant to how Chuiu interprets it. he doesn't know the backstory, he might only see a word that looks very similar to fanaticist. You're not the first to do this too. The clue is pretty damning. I understand this point, but the spelling is not the same. Cat and hat are off by one letter, does that make one of them a possible clue for the other? No. If you want me to look up clues in this fashion I'm sure I can give you a rather long list of names where you change one or two letters to make it apply to a phrase in Chuiu's post. | ||
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On November 10 2008 13:02 fusionsdf wrote: if it was just a vague list check that I altered, I could kill the DT quietly instead its the choice between getting a blue for free, or sacrificing a red for a blue and a green doesnt make much sense If the DT saw that you didn't speak up about his information he would understand that you are Mafia, and would then have TWO important pieces of information to reveal to the town if it came down to that. | ||
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