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On March 27 2008 13:16 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: 1. Mr. Blonde 2. Mr. Brown 3. Mr. White 4. Mr. Pink 5. Mr. Red 6. Mr. Black 7. Mr. Blue 8. Mr. Orange 9. Taipan Snake 10.Cottonmouth 11.Snake Charmer 12.Sidewinder 13.Black Mamba 14.King Bown Snake 15.California Mountain Snake 16.Copperhead 17.Eddie 18.The Wolf 19.Joe 20.Enigma So that is our Mafia Name list in full...maybe we should try to pinpoint which one was mandalor and then we can cross him out etc. | ||
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well no i don't play defense, you all think what you want about the clues... As for Mr. Orange if all you got to go on is tools, and the fact that it was Mr. Pink who used the skull like a "hammer" as I'm thinking where the connection is, is quite loose. But, to each his own. Camilto, I think I've been your only suspect this entire time, did i rape your sister or something in a past life? :-) good hunting town, hopefully the voting clarifies some stuff, but i don't see that shedding any light for a few more days. It was a rough day of lynches but if we stick to the plan I think we'll get back on track. Here's hoping the Mafia miss the blues this night cycle <3. Time for bed | ||
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Green townie = boring Green Townie being suspected of Red = funny But hey I can't blame anyone, I don't know how the system works though. Is every mafia related only to one "name" or are the clues spread out and the same person could have clues related to multiple mafia "names". Because it seems that I'm being connected to multiple attackers...which is cool, but if it goes only by being connected to one mafia "name" then it doesn't make sense. The nail clue works for me, go with it lynch me but when I come up green don't be bitchin to me ;-). I got bored after my first write up on day 1 and the strats that were going around to the fun out of the game. Now with these DTs dead (which blows but is going to make the game more interesting for townies) the fun is about to begin. If you want to use our now so important lynches or vigi kills on the nail clue go for it. It's a much stronger clue against me than the other ridiculous ones before. (considering day 3 I was linked to the guy who deals with all the electric stuff because I was around tools) | ||
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 . I'm a little perplexed by the whole numbers thing and L as well. I can see how it would be a major clue if the facts lined up, but we can't just add numbers and leave numbers out when we feel like it. I'm defending someone who is a suspect for the same clue as me...hmm I'm bad at this mafia strategy thing apparently. But I see this as a stretch just the same as it being a clue against me as a stretch. If is mafia then I guess I will deserve a big "I Told You" from you guys. | ||
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I followed Aces voting request then I ended up abstaining from the last vote because I thought Ace was going to notify me who to vote for to stick with the plan. I was offline a bit and came back and there were still no requests from Ace telling me who to vote for. So I'm not trying to lie low. I've got a whole notepad full of thoughts and clues that I'm keeping track of and when I find an 80% + guilty in my mind I will share. Thus far clues have been spread out and it's hard to narrow down to a suspect, and without DT help and Ace helping all we can do is sit back and wait for enough clues to line up on one person. Why start putting suspects out in the open and setting yourself up to be killed if you are on the right track or being wrong and possibly getting a townie lynched. I can sit back and think and vote and make some comments and thoughts on peoples opinions of clues while I have my own detective work going, then when I have a really good candidate, I could PM Ace and tell him and let him relay it to the town. If I die now because of this I will not be happy, but I'd rather the mafia kill me than be lynched by my own fucking townies! If you want to lynch me for, in my opinion, to blatant a clue in the whole being a Sure Shot, you can't lynch me for the nails. They are connected to different mafia. Sure Shot = The Wolf Nails = Cottonmouth You could connect the apologizing to my sig. That goes with the Wolf as well. So as far as The Wolf goes you have a - Efficient killer - Apologetic (either really sorry for turning on his brethren or a fake apology like you said) Or you could go with the nail route and lynch me as Cottonmouth because he used nails to kill someone. Even though I don't fit with anything else that goes with him. I'm not calling anyone stupid or retarded for their clue interpretations, just putting my two cents in. We need all the townies we can get alive, and we really need to lynch 2 mafia to catch up from the blunder of losing all our DTs. | ||
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On April 11 2008 10:29 qrs wrote: Since my last post got buried after a minute here's the summary version of the clues that connect the Wolf to suresh0t: 1) Doesn't miss. 2) Tells Chuiu something that is very similar to suresh0t's sig. 3) Nails. suresh0t is holding a hammer in his profile pic. Also, 4) suresh0t is on the Mandalor list and 5) he's been posting very lightly and bandwagoning or abstaining in votes. So let me summarize on top of your summarization? ;-) 1) Doesn't miss Seems a bit blatant but ok 2) The Sig Similar but not VERY SIMILAR. In my opinion Wolf is sincerely apologizing for betraying his brethren, not being sarcastic and apologizing for not believing in God haha. 3) Nails go to Cottonmouth. Yes Wolf used a nail to kill, but he didn't bring them into the scenario, he just used what was available. I would even go so far as to call Wolf resourceful more than a sure shot. He uses things that are around him when he kills, and he is very efficient. 4) Yes I'm on the Mandalor list. So yes I am a 25% chance to be mafia or whatever. So is everyone else on that list. 5) If you notice I'm a light poster in general. It's not like I went from 200 posts a day to 5 posts. I only come out and say anything when I am bored or find something interesting, or if I need to at least attempt to clear my name, which is apparently damning in and of itself. I don't know what you expect when you start talking about lynching someone, but I think speaking up and saying something is a trait of both a townie and a mafia. Like I said I was trying to stick with Ace's voting thing. I followed it on day 3 and then I abstained and waited for Ace to clarify what he wanted to do, and then just didn't vote because well, it was clear who was getting lynched. Sorry for being lazy. I know I already posted something about this but I wanted to reiterate and make it more compact in case you all didn't feel like reading my other post. SO I'LL REITERATE MY THOUGHTS ON WOLF AND HIS TRAITS - Efficient - Resourceful - Loyal to the majority (he is sorry for betraying but stays the course with the other mafia) | ||
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On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote: ^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. If you look there were five of them on the ground, in my opinion placed there to get Empy to investigate them. As he bent down Cottonmouth stabbed him with a nail, then stabbed 6 more in him. This means Cottonmouth was carrying them. He didn't just pick them up off the ground. | ||
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On April 03 2008 23:51 BlindAlbino wrote: good job kill queasy. detective dropping like ball on child through puberty. how mafia get so luck i dont know. after new clue my big suspect str and energies, still bumatlarge suresh0t queasy no longer on suspect list becuz now he dead On April 08 2008 08:40 BlindAlbino wrote: from this lynch we conclude that energies and suresh0t are mafia. no question in mind for me. caller is not mafia my opinion, seems more bodyguard from posts. On April 09 2008 12:22 BlindAlbino wrote: yes I agree with str. Three letter clue plus his quote strong. also agree suresh0t. seem obvious but maybe? hammer strong. besides this I do not know. energies seem mafia I suppose? not strong enough at point this. This doesn't make me innocent but if BlindAlbino is mafia then he was being a dick if I was mafia. | ||
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On April 16 2008 02:38 MidnightGladius wrote: Everyone owes me a post-death apology. Yeah, I'm asking for it now  I don't owe you one if you die, I already said I think you'll come up green if you do die . | ||
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I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent. | ||
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at least blind was red, not that it was really debated. so what does this mean for MTF since Gladius is green? | ||
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That being said, I still trust the judgment of Ace and seeing as we don't have any other way to check L out, I will let him decide on what to do, since he is the only one holding the cards for the town. | ||
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On April 17 2008 05:07 Amber[LighT] wrote: Lets also not forget it's possible that some mafia can be inactive? Just curious how this would effect anything? | ||
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On April 17 2008 05:19 MTF wrote: It wouldn't. Mafia don't send in individual kills, they just send in a list to Chuiu with how many hits are on who. So, Mafia kill strength doesn't go down any from inactivity. That's what I thought. | ||
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I AM THE GODFATHER! - I need to gain about 200 lbs though :-( PS - This game is funny, people turn all hateful when they are accused and such. It's entertaining. | ||
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That would be King Brown Snake with the kill blow, The Wolf got him once in the chest but it didnt kill him, which means he doesn't one shot kill. So you just disproved your own argument. The Last Romantic kill wasn't reluctance it was just smart. They cleared the bar of witnesses then killed him, that isn't apologetic or reluctant. Both of the clues to my picture are insanely loose considering there is no debris in my photo, and the nails I still think are clearly linked to cottonmouth. As for the voting, I was following Aces plan until the plan stopped because all the detectives were dead. Now voting really only effects anything if there is a close vote, which there hasn't been one. I said I was going on vacation so I missed the last 2 votes. Like I said I just find it funny, I'm not mad that I'm suspected, it's part of the game. I'm just saying your clues are loose at best, there are surely better suspects and I'm trying not to let the town waste a lynch on a green (if you didn't get that I'm saying I are GREEN!) =]. Good day. | ||
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I'll grant you the wolf got the kill blow fine, but he only get it because king brown snake assisted. That loosens the whole Sure Shot idea. We know the wolf is accurate, but come on he is a fucking mafia assassin. I misinterpreted the bar scenario but it still doesn't show reluctance. | ||
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On May 14 2008 21:11 Scorch wrote: Maybe he's trying to save his own ass by voting for DamageControL and putting himself at 3rd place. By the way, it appears there is a bandwagon starting against Ninja4Ever in the voting thread. We might want to take a close look at the people voting for Ninja without giving a reason and not contributing anything else. It's not that weird...the only weird part about it is they voted like unforgiven...but i see other people that are voting me and ninja, and a couple other variations of random suspects. These people just seem to be falling half of Plexa's plan. Who is more suspect? Well I guess that depends on if DC is red or green, and what ninja is and what all the others are who are getting votes. I mean qrs and nemy haven't voted in line with Plexa since...well I don't know when. I tend to either just not vote or vote for who I'm told, I have no special powers, I'm not that great at clue interpretations (as proven by my blog on day 1 ;-]!). So maybe everyone needs to explain their votes in this thread after they vote. QRS obviously hates me for fucking his sister or something...and the ones that are voting ninja aren't that suspect considering ninja is as far as I know a fairly major suspect. Not trying to defend the votes just giving a perhaps why it is occurring and not jumping to a "These people are falling out of line so we better lynch them" mind frame. Just something to keep in mind. P.S. The edit was only to add the quote, because I read my post and it seemed a bit out of place . | ||
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I am guessing because all the mafia that have been killed have tried to point the finger at either or both of us. I am green, so I am assuming he is green as well. But you can twist it and we could both be red, so decide what you want to do. | ||
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I think the safer play is Oc342525dfa lynch along with another "known" mafia, and see what happens. The Pardoner doesn't have much power but I'd rather have a chance at another green alive with the little protection we have of one bodyguard as opposed to lynching an innocent pardoner. | ||
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On May 24 2008 01:52 qrs wrote: LTT is on bumatlarge's list of innocents, which has proven correct so far. I doubt that he's Mafia. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925¤tpage=36#704 That is a good point. Hey look...me and qrs are getting along .. ish! | ||
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I think the point L tried to make is that it would be cheating if Bockit used his admin powers to find the list, and he assumes dead townies have still been in the game via private chat so Mandalor finding the list and telling the mafia is fair game. I mean L coming forward with this information to clear Bockit seems suspect as well, but then again he may know that he is not saving Bockit just by saying this and it may even be more damning that a dead mafia is sticking his neck out to clear him. Anywho that is my two cents, and I don't think qrs is mafia...but I'll still vote for him if it comes to that because i think he voted for me 7 straight times ;-). BTW nice double red, it's about time! Plexa Fighting~ | ||
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Scenerio A: No one says anything to defend Bockit (obviously townies can't say anything because they don't know how mafia came across list) and we lynch him suspecting he used his admin powers. Scenerio B (current): Dead mafia (obviously alive mafia aren't going to say anything) comes forward with origin of the list and how they came across it, casting possibly even more suspicion on Bockit than he had before because now a known dead mafia is "trying" to clear a "townie". I'm sure L knew Bockit wasn't going to get pardoned by the town after he stood up for him. Which doesn't necessarily mean he isn't mafia, but at the same time I don't think it means he is. As far as Ace thinking that Bockit lied about being a Vet, I have no comment on that obviously because I'm not in the inner circle. I'm just trying to rationalize killing Bockit on just clues and at this point one account of a mafia member using a weapon that could be construed as Bockit's profile pic, and that's all. I don't know any other clue pointing at him. But as always I'll go with the town, and if he flips red then I will probably be suspected, but it is a risk I take because right now we can't afford to lynch greens, and even more so we can't lynch our Vets! | ||
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And did you insult my clothing. Harsh. Anyway, I'm down for being lynched. Go ahead and waste em away if you want, I thought Plexa said I was 99% not the Wolf, and now we are back on me. | ||
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He uses a lot of random things to kill and yes nails were one of them and yes I have a hammer in my pic, but that doesn't explain the other things he uses. And no I can't remember them all but I remember some thing about numbers ect, and everyone was counting shit for like a couple weeks trying to come up with a reason for them, and now you've given up. | ||
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or insanely bored you pick. except qrs cause he hates me ;-) | ||
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I don't care if you let us know your informant or not, because if he isn't mafia, he will obviously be the target of the mafia once he is outed. Then I'll be lynched because the guy who suspected me is dead etc etc. On the other hand if you can connect him to a mafia, then yes I think you should tell us who he is. | ||
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Not positive like I said, but that was my assumption. As for the not outing the person giving the clues, reason being, it could possibly out someone who is in the inner circle, and without at least some clues pointing towards him, he probably shouldn't be outed. | ||
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However if he comes up green and I get in trouble for endorsing the death of a townie right after I tried to "save" bockit I might as well pack my bags for heaven I'd imagine. Here's hoping he is of the red persuasion. | ||
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Please tell me how the wolfs last like 3 kills connect with me please. I want to know, because I've been trying to figure it out, and as of right now I got nothing. Oh well you also have Ninja on there and I still think he is innocent (because we were both attempted scapegoats for mafia members). I'm not so sure about nemy, I could go either way. He is definitely the strongest suspect I think on your list. Shallow is just suspect on his changing profile and we don't know how Chuiu works, if he uses current profile or if he just uses the original. Or rather I don't know, I probably shouldn't speak for everyone. Puosu another one I don't know or haven't thought of. I think you may have 1 maximum 2 reds in there, I know I'm green and I still don't know how people are connecting me with mafia. Love Yours Truly, Suresh0t xoxo | ||
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.I apparently misread your post artanis, and most of the suspects that have been named have been on the list for awhile, I'm would imagine they are aware of them. But yes I agree, anyone that is under suspicion should be kept under wraps. | ||
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38 Townies - 5 Mafia 10 Nights = 30 Townies Dead 10 Days without killing all the mafia = 6 Townies Dead Leaving 1 Mafia vs 2 Townie If it comes to that, it'll probably be a townie victory unless we are unfortunate enough to have 1 of the townies inactive. Then I assume it is first to cast their vote etc etc | ||
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I also don't fit with Cottonmouth, and yes they both have some similarities to my profile, but that should make me less likely. Considering we know that typically Chuiu has been sticking with one strong connection to each mafia. Neither the Wolf nor Cottonmoth fit me. I don't know when people stopped listening to Plexa, I guess he is dead now, so his advice isn't useful now? Nothing has changed with the Wolf that would make him more likely to be me, in fact it is just the opposite. Another fact is that plenty of mafia tried to get me lynched to save their own asses. You can take that as a ploy to save me, but then the same would apply to Ninja4ever. I know I'm green, so my guess is that he is green as well. So now we have the whole me defending Bockit ordeal. Which I still barely regard as defending, all I did was point out that we should look at clues as opposed to L coming forward. I was wrong and admitted it, and am glad we got Bockit. The Town pretty much has this wrapped up, but not completely. Let's try to get some red from good sources and not just townsfolk holding pitchforks because I tried to make sure we right on Bockit. | ||
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someone list possible lynches, i'll start Suresh0t - The Wolf? Cottonmouth? Town Fails if they kill? Nemy - ??? Romance_us - ??? | ||
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I want to know who you are lynching me as so I can argue the fucking clues. You just say clues point to you, but Plexa made it clear I'm not the Wolf, and this was when the clues just started not to connect to me, and they have gone even further away from me since. Then there is the Cottonmouth talk that you said was brought to you by a townie claiming to be in the inner circle. I definitely don't connect to Cottonmouth. So what do you want me to do to defend myself? Sit silently and let you lynch me. If I did that you would bring up how mafia ish that is, and if I defend myself, that is very mafiaish as well. So what am I to do? | ||
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On June 09 2008 04:35 Wysp wrote: I've been asked by a person, who claims to be a member of a group of townies avoiding being pinched, to publish anything they wish to shoot out at the public. If you think the analysis is valid, that's fantastic, if you think its bad, that's also fantastic. They are proposing that suresh0t may be cottonmouth. "Dressed shabbily Cottonmouth walked in and presented himself as a challenge. Wizard took it and reached for a nearby lamp as a weapon" http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/22041.jpg?1188493959 The connection of course, being the not so high end attire. Subjective, but something. "He ran towards Cottonmouth and swung the lamp but missed as Cottonmouth dodged underneath him and flung him over his back" In the picture suresh0t is kneeling, any other very loose connection. "Cottonmouth grabbed the lamp and used the bottom end of it as a blunt weapon smashing Wizard's arm as he turned around to get up" Proposing the lamp is similar to the hammer. "To finish him off Cottonmouth took up the lamp again and shoved the bulb end of it as hard as he could into Wizard's chest impaling him with it." Like a nail... Personally, I think these are some pretty sleezy clues, if enough people agree I may reveal who is sending me these so we can think it through. so obviously someone thinks I am cottonmouth. my point about the electric thing is multiple clues pointing to me from multiple mafia tends to mean that that person isn't mafia. the last romantic apologetic thing is bs, it makes no sense. the chuiu one is just a lame one and in other games they both have mafia apologizing for kill chuiu and dapperdan, so it is a non point. the whole wolf jumping out a window with debris is in no one connected to me, what fucking debris is in that pic, i have a hammer and a tool box (hence why I've been connected to nails and the electronic guy) I'm only arguing with you qrs because well you've been voting for me since the beginning. Though I see now you voted for nemy so I'm confused. For the last time I'm going to say that the Wolf has strayed away from connecting to me, the only connection (and he has missed on some kills, at one point he knocked a guy down and then killed him with an elbow drop ala Macho Man Randy Savage, and then the darts he missed one and then got him in the back with another, and then killed them or something like that). You just dismiss all my arguments as oh he is mafia look at him squirm. It's fucking BS, what do you do when you are accused? I said nemy is a better choice and there have been write ups so why the fuck do i need to write it up. | ||
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that would lead everyone to believe they are townies, plus how do you link clues to new people added. you should have just left it, there are enough voters vs townies to not swing the votes. | ||
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The adding players in for inactives at the end was kind of lame, mostly just because you assume (be it right or wrong) that mafia inactives aren't a huge deal and town ones are, so the ones being replaced are assumed regular green townies. At that point I was pretty sure the game was over anyway so it wasn't a huge deal. | ||
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