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On March 24 2008 07:29 Showtime! wrote:
Chuiu, I have another question for you!
Scenario 1: What happens when a Vigilante and a member of the mafia target each other on the same night? Do they both die a painful death or is it a coinflip?
Scenario 2: What happens if two mafia attack the Vigilante? Does the Vigilante get the kill on the mobster he originally targeted and then die at the hands of the other mafia member?
I'm assuming the double team negates it and the Vigilante just dies, which would be pretty sad.
Scenario 3: what happens if by chance a paramedic is watching him/her? Do they survive the attack and get the kill on the mafia member they originally targeted? Could the Vigilante survive a double team attack and still get away with the kill?
Sorry to be a pain in the arse and I know the chances of this are slim, but I just thought it would be a good question to ask.
I'm not Chuiu, but still:
1. Both die - this occurred in the first game with So no Fek and Shallow
2. Mafia doesn't individually hit people, they just send a list. So, this case is the same as 1., vigilante's kill goes thru.
3. If one medic protects, and two mafia hit - he dies. Still, vigilante's hit works.
If only one mafia hits, then vigilante lives, mafia dies.
Have you ever read the OP?
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Yeah, I vote for them being dismembered by four polar bears!
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On March 24 2008 07:50 GeneralStan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2008 07:47 ZBiR wrote:
Yeah, I vote for them being dismembered by four polar bears! Make it five and I'm in
Nah, wouldn't work. Where would we tie the fifth rope, to the head?
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Uhmm...
Great idea! Five it is!
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On March 24 2008 07:58 Yogurt wrote:
i just looked through the suspect lists, cus i had a stupid feeling that i was gonna die during night one, and i'd try and save a lynch so i looked up who most people were suspecting or who quite a few suspected anyway
I'd say your "stupid feeling" was perfectly justified, after you posting this
On March 21 2008 04:15 Yogurt wrote:
I'm not pming yet on the premise Ace might be mafia
I was quite convinced you are blue, and if I were mafia, I would target you too.
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Nice job mayor!
Let's hope it continues to be that good.
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It's most viable to check people voting on Ghar, he had 7 votes, and if he's innocent then there are mafia among these 7 for sure
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On March 25 2008 00:29 LucasWoJ wrote:
That was a good call to investigate that. I was thinking that the people toward the bottom of the list would be mafia since they just jumped on the bandwagon in order to save themselves, but TL-Attack was on and I noticed most of the people voted after it was over. Also, those on the very bottom could just have been late, but chances are that at least a few of them decided they needed to vote against their teammate.
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But you see, it is already obvious that the town is at Ace's will, so when he commanded us to vote Mandalor, he could be sure to bite the bullet. This means mafia should, and probably did, jump in at any time.
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On March 25 2008 00:42 L wrote:
Do you have a list of people who switched?
You can read it from the voting thread, only a few people edited their original posts.
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On March 25 2008 01:18 Ace wrote:UpdateI got some interesting information about centering around Mandalor's death. Check this out: Show nested quote +
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Mandalor Germany. March 24 2008 03:15. Posts 1164 PM Profile Blog Quote
I abstain as well.
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Ace United States. March 24 2008 06:21. Posts 1938 PM Profile Quote
well then how about this.
Everyone vote for Mandalor to be lynched.
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I revealed this at 6:21 on March 24th. Smurfingchobo already voted for Mandalor on the 23rd. If he's mafia, then the mafia's game plan might be to vote against each other.
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smurfingchobo March 23 2008 20:45. Posts 527 PM Profile Quote
I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor.
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I thought that was an interesting vote (a day before) because no one had mentioned him as a suspect, and I couldn't find any clues leading to him.
To sum up, basically smurfingchobo voted on Mandalor way before I even brought him up. This is odd because even when we knew Mandalor was Mafia, we couldn't even find a single clue that implicated him. What do you guys think about this? Someone did some nice work 
Notice that he edited that original vote
Last edit: 2008-03-24 10:04:22
so he was voting differently on 23.03.08, unless you've seen his original post it's not a proof (still, it's quite suspicious)
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Uhm... no. He voted (probably abstained) before you pointed Mandalor, then after you accused Mandalor, he changed his post from before.
That's how I see it.
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On March 25 2008 01:48 ahrara_ wrote:
I can see why the mafia would want to field a fake medic, then they would be in on who's being saved. But a veteran??? What the hell?
To discredit other veterans for example? And cause confusion?
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On March 25 2008 02:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2008 01:33 Ace wrote:
It's suspicious to me because from the gate he was against me getting Mayor. Go look back at his past posts and check them out.
I have a notepad file of initial impressions of everyone in the game, here is the entry for araav:
araav - ran for mayor on ridiculous pretenses Hey cool, what was your initial impression of me? btw, sick job on the lynching
I'd say it would be cool if Ace pasted this whole file... but only AFTER the game ended.
Now saying anything unnecessary could be helpful to mafia.
On March 25 2008 02:18 ahrara_ wrote:
Fielding a vet is just bad strategy. They have no useful abilities, so they can't gain any information. When you have 2 real vets but 3 people report as a vet, then you have three strong suspects. Mafia need to protect their numbers as much as possible. Given that, fielding a vet wasn't a smart idea for them.
Wrong.
Risk of getting caught as a vet is very slim, still it harasses the town. It's a good trade for the mafia.
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On May 02 2008 11:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T VOTE IS AN STX_CHILD FAN
you convinced me =]
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On May 03 2008 17:25 MTF wrote:Major Suspect Voting Patterns:+ Show Spoiler [List] +
ZBiR:
Mayoral vote: Fusion
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, BlindAlbino
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: LostYourSkills and ieatkids5
lol @ me being a "major suspect" 
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I should have payed more attention to this thread =]
On April 23 2008 21:12 Plexa wrote:
Just note there that he has a number of Kives ("belt") and a number of nails... which almost sounds like a collection of various objects right? If CottonMouth uses another set of weapons next night then this clue is strengthen (especially if the numbers don't add to 44). Basically, "Collection" is the english translation of the croation word zbir... Hence ZBiR - as your name literally means collection - you must be cottonmouth
**Update** Once again a collection remains - my suspicion grows esp since the numbers have fallen through
No offence Plexa, but this is just pure ROTFL
Croatian? You checked what my name means in Croatian :D ? And not in Polish?
I'll save you the trouble - it IS a Polish word, it literally means "thug". Not "collection" LOL :D
+ Show Spoiler +rotfl, collection... this made my day :D
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So you say it's possible that Chuiu makes clues on translations of nicknames in languages that have nothing in common with the suspect? Sorry, I don't think so
Maybe we should check everyone's nick in 200 languages of the world to catch possible connections?
Oh, and even if my name was "Collection" - I really think that linking 3(?) different weapons used to me would be far stretch.
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On May 07 2008 21:58 Plexa wrote:Let me draw your attention to this clue Show nested quote +Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe was ready to make his kill. It was all planned out, Naib would exit after he closed the store and Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall. Unfortunately for Joe he hadn't expected Naib to exit out the back of the building. He was quite confused as he saw Joe getting into his car parked on the side so he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so and looked inside Naib's car for a weapon to use. He found a glass bottle and broke off the end of it. As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground. Joe finished Naib off by stabbing him through the heart with the jagged end of the bottle. Okay, wtf at that bolded passage... It reads as if jow 'flew' from the building to Naib's car (on the other side of the parking lot) or that joe dropped down onto Naib's car parked along side the building. When joe drops down he create "a huge indentation" which implies that he is heavy and then theres the bottle later on as a weapon.. Im looking at suspects like ZBiR (thug), JimTudor (ice hockey - team player?) for joe.. am i looking in the right plale?
ugh... just as I revealed what zbir means T_T
Yeah, thugs dent cars and use broken bottles... But it wasn't me!
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Oh, and I agree on the GeneralStan part.
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On May 20 2008 20:16 Alethios wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2008 19:22 Scorch wrote:
Mafia do not need to kill veterans in order to win. If they find out someone is a veteran, they just let him live and concentrate on other targets. Once they find out that the person is a Vet... it's already too late. The kill has been used.
Still, they don't know whether they hit a Vet or a person protected by medic (right? I'm not totally sure, but quite), so they may even attack him more thinking he's somebody important.
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On May 20 2008 21:46 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
plus, from the showtime list that would make 2 top suspects. Me for being mr. pink and him being california mountain snake. If the first one to get lynched turns out green, the the other will most likely be mafia unless i fuck up big time
This looks like a suggestion to lynch you
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