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The only person I can think of as a suspect for Cottonmouth, with his collections of weapons, is Puosu. He hasn't posted much, and he has the following strange sig: ,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,.
Perhaps it's not the most convincing clue, but with some imagination, you can see those as a collection of weapons. There are various ways it might be broken up into 15, e.g. count ,. '´/`' and ^. The magic number may not be simply 15, either: they always seem to be broken up, mostly into groups of three, but sometimes 5, 2, or 1. Maybe someone can see a pattern there.
I'm not convinced of Puosu, just raising the possibility.
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On May 06 2008 22:04 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 21:30 qrs wrote: I vote clazziquai: Plexa and MTF have a decent track record, but if I don't know why I'm voting for someone, I don't vote for him. so why are you voting clazziquai whos evidence is rather dubious ? I thought you were the one who first pointed out the evidence for him, viz the connection to Mr. Orange ("me from Kiribati. me no speak English"). That plus somewhat suspicious behavior, like changing his signature, and irrelevant comments that do nothing to defend himself.
I voted for clazziquai of all the suspects so as not to spread the votes any further, since Alethios had already voted for him, but if you have serious doubts about whether he is Mafia, I don't mind changing my vote to suresh0t, who has the strongest evidence against him IMO. Or if you make a strong case against General Stan, I guess I could go with the bandwagon.
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Nothing's for sure, but this is why I think you're our surest sh0t. Clues that may point to your name + Show Spoiler +Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. (that one looks blatant) Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. Nothing around, Caller tried dodging the next attack but King Brown Snake was on him again and the blow pierced through his skull. That plus the Wolf has never missed any of his targets and always kills them immediately. Clues that may point to your signature + Show Spoiler +The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood, Last Romantic noticed it was locked up and the lights on the front were off. He took it that the bar was closing and he should leave so he got up and headed to Eddie expecting him to open the door but Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head. The Wolf apologizes for attacking Chuiu, and seems reluctant to attack Last Romantic, yet in both cases he is the one to kill them. (Note that both Chuiu and Last Romantic can be seen as important figures, remniscent of the "divinity" mentioned in suresh0t's sig.) Clues that may point to your photo + Show Spoiler +Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground. Although you pointed out that the nails seem more connected with Cottonmouth, it doesn't actually say who left them lying around. It may have been the Wolf. You hold a hammer in your pic. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Something a construction worker might be doing, eh? Can't think of any other good reason for the Wolf to be carrying debris from a building. Reasons it is not implausible for you to be Mafia -You have abstained/not voted/bandwagoned nearly every vote, as far as I saw. (That sort of stuff is most relevant in the beginning, when there were still detectives to check vote counts.) -You haven't posted much in the thread besides to defend yourself. -You are on the Mandalor list
That's basically it, I think.
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On May 07 2008 05:45 suresh0t wrote: Caller tried dodging the next attack but King Brown Snake was on him again and the blow pierced through his skull.
That would be King Brown Snake with the kill blow, The Wolf got him once in the chest but it didnt kill him, which means he doesn't one shot kill. So you just disproved your own argument. No, you need to read more carefully: + Show Spoiler +Chuiu wrote: King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. Nothing around, Caller tried dodging the next attack but King Brown Snake was on him again and the blow pierced through his skull. King Brown Snake gets in Caller's way, and makes it hard for him to dodge. The Wolf is the one who attacks. Can we agree that "the blow" is the same as "the next attack"? "The next attack" is launched before "King Brown Snake was on him again"; also the first "attack" comes from the Wolf, so presumably "the next attack" is the Wolf's next attack. It's true that it's not a one-shot kill, but both shots land. (spoiler is just to save space)
The Last Romantic kill wasn't reluctance it was just smart. They cleared the bar of witnesses then killed him Wrong. Chuiu wrote: The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf.
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On May 07 2008 06:35 suresh0t wrote: qrs get off your high almighty horse. your clue interpretations are just as openly flawed as anyone else's. Sure my interpretations may be flawed. I didn't dispute any of the subjective parts of your post, just the mistakes. Sorry if I sounded obnoxious about it.
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On May 08 2008 04:40 HotZhot wrote: That mr.blonde sure is one though individual, just won't die. Come on Ace, Plexa who to vote for? stupid finals For Mr. Blonde? Isn't ninja4ever the top suspect?
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On May 08 2008 14:10 ahrara_ wrote: I'm kinda hoping Mafia will try and kill me so I don't feel so completely useless. LOL, you've wanted that from day one.
On March 22 2008 13:42 ahrara_ wrote: I don't know whether to be relieved or hurt the mafia doesn't think I'm worth killing.
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Well, I didn't think he was our strongest suspect, but it was worth a shot, I guess. Now we can go on to surer cases like suresh0t (Wolf) clazziquai (Orange) ninja (Blonde)
right?
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I still think that Puosu could be a suspect for Cottonmouth (viewing that signature of his as a collection of weapons). I admit that it's kind of weak, Anyone have anything better for the master of the 15-shot kill?
BTW, something I noticed from the last night: Mr. Blonde, partnering with Cotton, seems to take on his associate's distinctive characteristic: he also kills with 15 weapons. I looked back at the other posts to see if there was a theme of Mr. Blonde copying the other mafiosi, but there didn't really seem to be one, so I don't know, but it might be a clue.
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On May 11 2008 05:04 Plexa wrote: The thing is, im privy to highly sensitive information...
Haha, I'm tired of people doing this. Ace was talking this way at the beginning and his privileged information turned out to be a double-edged sword at best. Now Plexa's doing the same thing: a mysterious "controversial list" that turns out to be worthless (General Stan) and now this "highly sensitive" information that he's supposedly privy to. I can't speak for the rest of the town--most of which seems to like bandwagoning--but as far as my vote goes, people's secret information does not factor into it.
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^Oh, Ace gave you that list? Well, as long as we know what it is, that's all right, then. Probably better not to publish it in the thread: if the Mafia knows who the confirmed townies are, they can target them, to make lynching that bit harder for us.
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On May 11 2008 11:19 Plexa wrote: now qrs, who is guilty from your list? My list? Do you mean the showtime! list? No idea. If you mean who do I think is guilty in general, I've already mentioned that my top suspects are sureshot, ninja, and clazziquai (in that order). Not much new to add there, sorry. The only person I somewhat suspect who is not already one of the main suspects is Puosu, but I'm hardly sure about him. BTW, I'm not convinced of your reasoning that clues must apply to one person and only one, for the simple reason that Chuiu probably did not read through all 130 profiles before making his clues.
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And to add to that: The Wolf whittled GranDim down with every punch and eventually knocked him out on the door of the van. Every punch landed and did damage. In other words, the Wolf is still, after 10 days of Mafia, connecting with every shot he takes.
Meanwhile, Chuiu is getting desperate with the "Mr. Pink is a sadist" clue.
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Well, I respect your analysis, but it's not infallible, and for my part, I think that the evidence against those two is the strongest. I've already outlined the evidence against suresh0t several times; as for Mr. Blonde, the strongest piece of evidence is from Day 2: Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above but there's also from Day 1: He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. from Day 5: said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. Fast reflexes, comes from nowhere, can brace himself on the ceiling: very ninjalike. OTOH, there are some days that don't seem to particularly fit, so I'm not 100% convinced of ninja, but enough to vote for him.
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On May 15 2008 00:50 suresh0t wrote: QRS obviously hates me for fucking his sister or something. You did what?!
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Wow, unforgiven is always a Mafia member. It must be his name.
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On May 18 2008 08:11 HeRoS)Pink wrote:ok this is going to far, about the 3 letters mafia, i meant to say *I know who he's and he have 3 letters in his name.* SureSh0t will be happy + Show Spoiler +qrs = The wolf Quote : It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious.
The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head.
The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later.
He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground.
Last Romantic was driving around looking for a bar still open late night when he finally found one, or thought he did. The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building and had a gun ready for ambush. As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood, Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head.
The Wolf had been tracking his target for quite some time. His target, GranDim, had been driving around all over town in a white van. When he finally stopped at a gas station to get gas The Wolf got in position for the kill. He silently waited for GranDim to fill up his gas and pay for it then ambushed him right before he got back in his van. GranDim and The Wolf got in fist fight and it was soon obvious who was better trained for it. The Wolf whittled GranDim down with every punch and eventually knocked him out on the door of the van. To finish him off The Wolf searched the van for some drugs and gave GranDim overdoses of everything he could find. QED, what?
Care to explain in a bit more depth?
As for killing talkative townies, Mafia haven't been doing that so much this game, except for Plexa and MTF, who really were/are contributing a lot as far as deciphering clues goes. They also seem to be avoiding people on the Mandalor list (like me) for the most part, probably so as not to narrow the noose on those Mafia.
It's understandable that suresh0t wants to vote for me, since I've been voting for him for quite some time. Ace has wanted me dead since I made a couple of posts calling him out for incompetence, and HeRoS)Pink is half a troll, but looking for clues pointing at me (presumably they would point at my quote) does not turn up very much. That's because I'm not Mafia.
On May 18 2008 20:48 Plexa wrote: anyone got his history?) Araav's got everyone's history through April 19 or so in his blog. http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=69736
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Oh and suresh0t, keep trying to explain the Wolf's kills away: After arming himself properly the Wolf fire strait into butidigress's head killing him instantly.
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