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I vote Dr.Dragoon to be lynched Sorry, if your not a mafia, but soo much points towards you that we'd be stupid not to kill you off. Also, someone gets killed by having their head thrusted into a boiling pot of water. Hotzhot comes to mind there. | ||
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I also dont believe that both Dr.Dragoon AND Nightmare are both mafia. However 1 of them is. Kill the most likely suspect off first, if hes townie, then Nightmare should be next. | ||
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On February 17 2008 14:14 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I don't get your reasoning. it's even worse than the either Shallow or me has to be mafia. Just wondering how one of us has to be mafia when we really aren't connected at all. Though Nightmare does hate me, because he's mafia. Your connected because Nightmare voted for you. Mafia members dont vote for each other, so one of you is not mafia, that we can be certain of. However you and Nightmare are on top of my list of suspects, so I vote for the most likely one and will go for the other tommorow if it turns out to be a mistake. If you are mafia, then Nightmare is off my suspects list. | ||
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On February 17 2008 14:36 Falcynn wrote: Also ROFL can anyone guess which one's which? I Lol'ed | ||
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Tracil infinity21 2 are currently still alive. It makes sense that the mafia would try to get someone in a mayor or at least pardoner position, so I would say that either Infinity or Tracil are going to be mafia. Which one? Well Tracil recieved 13 votes, Infinity recieved 1. Now if a mafia was running for mayor, then I would expect them to have a lot more than 1 vote. Tracil also hasnt touched his ability to pardon people, but then, we've never gone after a mafia yet either so if he is mafia, he hasnt needed to. Now if Tracil is mafia, he has 4 pardons left. That means if we correctly guess mafia for the next 4 nights, he can pardon them and save them and we will have made no progress at all. We would have NO chance of winning the game. Unless we can get some absolute proof that Tracil is a good guy, then we cannot take the risk of leaving him in such a powerful position. Therefore Tracil is on top of my list and I Vote for Tracil to be Lynched | ||
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And to add to that, we know that 5 of 9 people are mafia as well. This looks like we might still be able to turn this around. Now seeing as 5 mafia voted Tracil, I'm going to assume he is not mafia (sorry). I think Falycnn and IamDerek might be mafia and if I was a vigilante, one of them would be my hit tonight (please dont kill me  ). | ||
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Also, could a system be implemented where every player must post at least once during each day/night cycle. If they dont, they get booted from the game (they flee town or something), and their role (if they have one) gets passed onto someone else. Because if the detectives end up being afkers, then its totally going to screw the townies over. | ||
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- A reoccurring theme is that a mafia with a syringe is injecting people with a substance that seems like it is supposed to increase strength. It fits the description of a stim very well and the best fit is Live2Win's Sig. - He gets in trouble and is about to be townie lynched. He looks at the list, realises that there are 4 paramedic positions still alive. Chances are, one is not playing and he can assume that role. His move pays off. - After announcing to everyone that he is a paramedic, he is not attacked by the mafia. You would assume the mafia would want to take paramedics down as their power becomes greater as the townie numbers decrease. - After becoming the medic that is supposed to watch over the townies most valuble asset, he "accidently" sends the PM to the wrong person and the detective dies. This info is pretty solid against you Live2Win. I'm interested to hear your counterargument. EDIT: only to make it more readable | ||
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On March 01 2008 04:10 Live2Win wrote: Pretending to be Paramedic - Far too risky. Pretending to assume a position means you WILL be uncovered eventually. It puts a timeline on your life. If I was mafia, my goal would be to stay alive until the end. I wouldn't assume a role unless I knew I could live it out. Of course, both cases have no proof to back them up. See Live2Win, It wasnt a risky move at all. It was the best possible choice for a mafia in that position. You were about to be lynched by the townies. You had majority of the votes. You were going to die. In that situation, you take a gamble to stay in the game as long as possible. The paramedic role is very good for the town, it is something we do NOT want to risk killing. Making it a perfect choice. You then look and see that 4/4 paramedics are still alive, considering the amount of people not playing this game, there is a good chance that at least 1 will be not playing. Perfect. If you are mafia, then that you made a desperate play to stay in the game. It was risky, but then, the alternative was death in 6 hours time, so you didnt have anything to lose. The fact that it worked and everyone changed their vote means that if you are mafia, I'll take my hat off to you because it really was a brilliant play. You represent 0.5 killing power to the mafia every night. You want to stay in the game as long as possible. Now I still havnt decided who to vote for yet. On the one hand, I suspect Live2Win is mafia more than any other person in this game. However Live2Win is not part of the group of 8. That being said, there are only 4 out of 11 mafia in that group, leaving 7 that are still roaming around. Its a case of, do I think Live2Win is mafia enough that I will forgoe a 50% chance of hitting with my next vote? | ||
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4/8 - 50% chance that we lynch a mafia by randomly picking from the group that voted against Tracil. EDIT: Got my maths wrong thanks to goldenkirbi. | ||
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On March 01 2008 13:21 Chuiu wrote: There already are websites just for the game. But none of them have awesome 30+ player games. By the looks of things, the next game is going to be like 100+ players. Can someone please list the reasons why we think Unforgiven is mafia. I never really suspected him, but a lot of you do. | ||
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On March 01 2008 11:56 goldenkrnboi wrote: ZBir basically said that he wouldn't forgive the killer. Therefore, Unforgiven? Ok, this is a pretty god awful interpretation of that clue. How is "you're not going to get away with that" related towards not being forgiven? However guys, please stop voting for Live2Win. No matter how much you think your arguments are true, there's still the possibility that he might not be mafioso, and we could end up losing an all-important medic. look at dr. dragoon, he acted foolishly, everyone started turning against him, we ended up wasting a lynch and a double lynch at the same time. FakeSteve: too many people got suspicious of him, we ended up losing 2 double lynches that we need at this point. So, what should we do? Listen to Falcynn Since we now know that Alventine was telling the truth, let's use all the info that he's given us. He told us that there were 5 mafia that voted for FakeSteve. now, with imDerek dead, let's focus on clues that could get those 4 mafias lynched, instead of using the lynch on L2W, who we really don't have any evidence against besides the syringe. And honestly, i would rather take the 50% chance of getting a mafioso more than the 11/28 chance. Does make a lot of sense. A 50% chance of hitting is pretty decent so I do agree that the person who gets hung today should be in that group. I Vote for Unforgiven and hope that you guys are not basing this purely on a butchered clue. | ||
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On March 02 2008 07:42 clazziquai wrote: masami.sc is a townie im at his house right now ... You should be banned for this post. Your not even playing the game. EDIT: ok sorry you are playing. That being said, thats very unsportsmanlike | ||
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On March 02 2008 13:18 clazziquai wrote: Oh because I didn't want us to waste a lynch later on because masami never talks lol-_- No, because the WHOLE FRICKEN POINT of this game is to not know what role everyone has. Its a guessing and deception game. By going around to someones house and looking at their role, then your taking the point out of the game. Your quite literally CHEATING. | ||
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On March 02 2008 14:43 Falcynn wrote: Alright, the way I see it anyone who's on the list of 9 (or 7 now) will probably be safe this night. The reason I say this is because by lynching correctly, our chance of hitting someone on the list next day has dropped to 42%, since the mafia obviously doesn't want to make it easier for us to dwindle their numbers down they'll leave the remaining 4 townies on that list alone to keep our odds of hitting scum down. So if you're a medic...I'm going to hope that you can leave us alone and try to save someone who probably will get hit. Hmm, thats true. The townies in that group are safe at night and in the firing lines during day. Ironic. Anyways, good work guys, lets hope the Vigilantes can keep up the good streak we have going at the moment. | ||
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On March 02 2008 15:01 clazziquai wrote: Can Fen be mafia? I'm not accusing you directly, but according to wikipedia, "Fen" is a type of marshland where "needle spike rushes" are common. If you look back to the day posts, all of the killings have been done where one mafia member uses needles AT LEAST ONCE This is just some thinking.. Fen is short for Fenrir. The norse mythological wolf who owned everything. Look up that if you want a meaning for my name. I just checked the wiki page for Fen. A fen is an area of marshland which is highly acidic. There are lots of different flora that live there, mostly mosses and stuff. I think its a bit of a long shot to say that because 1 of 23 listed flora varietys has the word needle in it, then that clue is related to me. | ||
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I think we just have to admit we've lost this game. That being said, I will be very impressed if Live2Win does turn out mafia. He might have just masterminded the defeat of an entire town. I vote Live2Win | ||
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This is obviously harder than you guys think and Id love to see if you guys actually get it right. | ||
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Good game guys, townies missed some pretty damn important things however, and made some god awful decisions which made it slightly easy for the Mafia. Thanks for setting this all up Chuiu and Dapperdan, I look forward to the next one. If anyone has any mafia questions, i'll happily answer them for you. | ||
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On March 12 2008 11:33 Chuiu wrote: I had a few ideas on what to point to you, I kinda liked the whole idea of you living in a fen though.  DapperDan had a 9/11 clue point to you one night, I think...Haha that was the ony clue I was SURE was going to show up. I thought I was going to kill people as they were dialling emergency services and stuff. Actually I like the whole swamp thing. It was really quite a common theme. And something that people would have suspected if they had of wiki'ed Fen. Im lucky everyone is too lazy | ||
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On March 12 2008 11:46 fusionsdf wrote: I dont get: One stayed out, cutting the phone lines, preparing for the case that the residents may make an emergency phone call. [fen] This paragraph was DapperDan's, ask him for clarification if you need it. If you have a look at my birthday, it might make a bit more sense. | ||
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The mafias voting patterns for the last couple of votes and the ones that were going to come were to wipe out voters. A huge number of non-voters does nothing for the town because mafia will target voters to gain control. To counteract this, I would like mafia to have the same disadvantage. Every mafia choses a person they wish to go after. It still takes 2 mafia to make a kill, but if you dont give in your attack for the night, then you dont get to kill anyone. Still requires coordination from Maifa. Also, could the cycles please be done at spefic times. I checked every now and then, but was never sure of when it was going to be night and day. It would be better if we had an exact time that the game would update (I know thats a crap deadline for you chuiu, but its much easier for the players) | ||
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35 of 54 people voted on Day 3 26 of 46 people voted on Day 4 18 of 39 people voted on Day 5 42 of 71 people voted in the Election As you can see, almost half of the townies were AFK throughout this game. They served only as cannon fodder. As for the mafia, only about 10 were active. However this didnt effect us at all. It would be better if AFKs didnt screw up the game. For example Yogurt, a player with a HUGE role, never posted once. I think the mafia should individually PM their targets to chuiu, if there are inactive mafia, then a townie should be recruited (with a notice in the day post noting that the mafia recruited fresh blood) and the inactive mafia kicked from the game. If a Blue goes inactive, his role should be passed on (once again, a note in the day post) to another townie. The inactive blue can then be switched back into a townie to server as cannon fodder and suspicion sponge. | ||
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On March 12 2008 22:11 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Mafia have 1 kill per 2 mafia , if ( for exemple) 15 mafia telll him who they kill, how will he decided the 7 that dies from the 15 player? If 15 mafia go for different people, the mafia get 0 kills. If 2 or more mafia go for a person, they get the kill (unless protected) Mafia have the ability to communicate very easily so coordinating your efforts really isnt hard. | ||
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