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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 08 2024 20:55 GMT
#4984
On March 09 2024 02:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 01:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:42 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:21 CopCake wrote:
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.

Did it help somehow with your reads?

I understand you were confused about slam's choice. I was trying to figure out if that stemmed purely from questioning slam or if it was also driven by a townread of Oats.

I think it helped. The biggest thing for me right now are the amount of people who voted Oats while calling him town. People caveating their votes like that is making me second guess some things.

At least you decided to scum read him based on the NKs after I asked you the questions yesterday morning.

… do you not think he looks town and are you not voting for him?

I thought his case on me was a little opportunistic but a lot of the stuff after that has looked better/town than anything else he's posted this game. I am voting him because I think he's going to flip red bc the math says so. Notice I'm not voting him and saying "oh yeah but I think he'll flip town." It's stuff like that which is giving me pause on him tbh, why vote on him when you think he'll flip town. If you think he's gonna flip town as Miller then why are you voting for him. If you think he got framed why are you voting for him. In a vacuum I think he's going to flip red because of how unlikely it is for either of those events to occur. But everyone being so wishy washy with their votes is making me uncomfortable.

This is just semantics though. I’m honestly not saying this to be a dick, but I see what you’re saying and what I’ve said (I am just an example, there are others like me) as functionally equivalent. Which is the dude looks town (‘I think he’s town’ and ‘he looks town’ are the same statement in the context of the red check) but that’s where the vote ends up.

It’s just different ways of people expressing their read. And people understanding it’s very difficult to overcome a personal read in the face of a red check.

Do you see what I’m saying?

Just want to say that this is exactly where I'm at, as I am one of those people that MZ quoted in their diatribe about 10/15 people thinking Oats is town and how that is a problem.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 08 2024 21:01 GMT
#4985
On March 09 2024 04:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Skimmed through jealous’ filter and I think I’m just more annoyed at the playstyle than anything that actually makes him scummy so he’s in the town pile

How would you characterize my play style? What annoys you?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 08 2024 21:37 GMT
#4989
##Unvote
##Vote raynpelikoneet
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 08 2024 22:09 GMT
#5000
On March 09 2024 06:59 Palmar wrote:
JacobStrangelove - This guy is clearly just smart. I liked his posting because it's all pretty reasonable, but I feel like he isn't moving the needle at all this game. Happy sitting back and not getting listened to.

So JSL claiming gunsmith unCC'd doesn't matter to you?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 08 2024 22:41 GMT
#5040
On March 09 2024 07:18 Palmar wrote:
So if I can drop JSL, and for different reasons, Jealous, that makes the game even clearer.

I also ran again into Jealous' incredibly futile high effort bullshit about the interactions between me and rayn. It's so stupid it looks townie

Trust me, I was not happy doing it. Vivax asked me to look into it so I thought there must be something there. To be fair, Vivax didn't ask me to do all that. But, I was still pretty pissed when I found out it was basically a nothingburger.

Live and learn.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 08 2024 23:44 GMT
#5109
I wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything, and indeed, VE's last post was about 44 hours ago.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 01:56 GMT
#5196
On March 09 2024 10:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 09:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 09:54 DarthPunk wrote:
DMB has barely participated today.

I still think DMB is playing closer to her town meta tbh but she has been very quiet.

We have a safe kill. Everthing else what be stupid to do. Even if he is Miller its still the safest option right know. So why should i post more until the lynch. End the post from Jealous got me kinda Panik atack yesterday so I took a step back from tl. Also I will not filter j any more and vivax who made a quote from the post so I will not go in his Filter either. Btw that makes me think about Vivax alignment. He knows how heavy my phobia is about that so maybe he just quote it so I will not Filter him anymore...

Which post was that?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 02:28 GMT
#5220
It seems like a really important moment to make that kind of subpar word choice though. It's not like time's almost up.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 02:29 GMT
#5223
On March 09 2024 11:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 11:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:17 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 09 2024 10:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Town

Do not fucking lynch slam ever no matter if I flip miller or VT or I will end you after this game.


Don’t you mean when?

When Oats aligment flips red or miller then slam will die in n2 anyways or if oats is just town slam get lynched. Thats so easy that even I understand that.


But there is no question from oats that he is town right?

So why say if he is town, he should just say don’t lynch slam when I flip.



If oats is just Town we have to lynch slam. Then he pretended the claim fooled us for one lynch and we get the lynch nr. 2 right. There is no other way. Even me with my Tl skill level 1 I know no matter which scenarion comes we know what to do.
Thats the only correct thing to do for our Town

Will you not listen to me after I flip when I tell you not to lynch slam?

Gotta say, if you flip scum, this is some really good play right here.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 02:54 GMT
#5259
On March 09 2024 11:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:24 iamperfection wrote:
hes just saying either or do they not speak English in Australia.

the just speak annoying kangorisch there


We speak the kings English more than the Americans do that is for sure.

Which is a very different English, kinda like this vosotros shit I am being taught with my high school students

Teneís? Really? When is that even useful?

When a CEO is giving a speech to coworkers, for example. That's just the easiest one, there are many many others.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 02:54 GMT
#5260
To employees*
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 02:55 GMT
#5261
Think Lord Farquaad "Yes, I know that some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make." Or whatever.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 03:05 GMT
#5284
Gg Oats, WP. Really strong last push. Props.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 03:05 GMT
#5286
On March 09 2024 11:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 11:54 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:53 Vivax wrote:
Let‘s hope he flips mafia at least.
If he does I‘ll hate him for being so tough.


no matter what happens you are my next suspect


That‘s a legit dumbtell at least


you qouted it because you now what happend if I only just see a pic of it. You saw me one time throwing the phone on the other side of the room in you bedroom. You knew how my night gonna be as it was last night. You just made a quote so i am not gonna be able to filter you anymore. Thats a smart and asshole move togther. I will find out of you true aligmenet withhout filtering you. I read your mind like nobody else. I will be here on every post you gonna make and find out what you truly are

If this is an act, it's a pretty good one. Flashbacks of ex girlfriends in my mind rn.

If it's not, well, I wish you the best of luck Vivax. God speed.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 03:21 GMT
#5309
On March 09 2024 12:08 Vivax wrote:
Very good play by Oats.
Good luck with the copcake shot dp.

VE tomorrow most likely.

So you think this was a double bus situation and people used it as an opportunity to look more townie for remaining on Oats?

Or maybe this is just a bad idea, to go after the second wagon?

And maybe it would be very convenient for some people who spearheaded second wagons?

Hmm 🤔
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 03:28 GMT
#5316
On March 09 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax flip a coin and jk me on heads.


But don't roll claim the coin flip.

Nah do it for the WIFOM.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 03:39 GMT
#5333
On March 09 2024 12:35 iamperfection wrote:
im still right about the language thing btw.

I was gonna let y'all off the hook but you decided to dig it up again so:

If {x or y}

vs.

If {x} or {y}

^ "Whether" works better to communciate the second meaning.

But I think pushing back against this truth is NAI, as we have too many people in this game who just straight up don't know how to read.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 03:49 GMT
#5343
On March 09 2024 12:21 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 12:08 Vivax wrote:
Very good play by Oats.
Good luck with the copcake shot dp.

VE tomorrow most likely.

So you think this was a double bus situation and people used it as an opportunity to look more townie for remaining on Oats?

Or maybe this is just a bad idea, to go after the second wagon?

And maybe it would be very convenient for some people who spearheaded second wagons?

Hmm 🤔

Vivax where you going? These weren't entirely rhetorical, I want to hear your thoughts on this.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 03:57 GMT
#5356
On March 09 2024 12:34 Rels wrote:
Happy about that one
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 03:45 Rels wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?

And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor?

I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.

Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.

Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch.

Wait do you not know that there is only 1 vote for day 1 and that’s for the mayor

I know that's a super early post (that's actually the earliest post in my "opened waiting to be revisited" tabs). I didn't like it at the time, and I still don't like it

Like, it can originate from 2 situations: town having not read the OP, or scum faking this to appear like a town having not read the OP

If it comes from town, I don't understand how you can say something as assertive as "Wait do you not know that there is X" when you should know you. I know I would never write something like this without checking it a few times and making sure I'm right

If it comes from scum, I can see it. That just means he played the "I'm clueless" card, and made a mistake by pushing it a little too hard

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 03:59 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 03:47 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 03:45 Rels wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?

And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor?

I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.

Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.

Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch.

Wait do you not know that there is only 1 vote for day 1 and that’s for the mayor

I know that's a super early post (that's actually the earliest post in my "opened waiting to be revisited" tabs). I didn't like it at the time, and I still don't like it

Like, it can originate from 2 situations: town having not read the OP, or scum faking this to appear like a town having not read the OP

If it comes from town, I don't understand how you can say something as assertive as "Wait do you not know that there is X" when you should know you. I know I would never write something like this without checking it a few times and making sure I'm right

If it comes from scum, I can see it. That just means he played the "I'm clueless" card, and made a mistake by pushing it a little too hard

Does the rest of his play change anything?

No, what do you think of him?

I don't understand his read on CopCake - at 2 points in the thread we had exact opposites view her play. When she was posting tea party fluff, I thought it was pure NAI and he thought it was scummy. When she pushed DP, I thought she was scummy and he thought she looked better. I don't understand why he thought CC looked better


> see flip
> immediately filter self to find evidence to substantiate that the flip is good for them

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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10140 Posts
March 09 2024 04:01 GMT
#5361
On March 09 2024 12:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 12:49 Jealous wrote:
On March 09 2024 12:21 Jealous wrote:
On March 09 2024 12:08 Vivax wrote:
Very good play by Oats.
Good luck with the copcake shot dp.

VE tomorrow most likely.

So you think this was a double bus situation and people used it as an opportunity to look more townie for remaining on Oats?

Or maybe this is just a bad idea, to go after the second wagon?

And maybe it would be very convenient for some people who spearheaded second wagons?

Hmm 🤔

Vivax where you going? These weren't entirely rhetorical, I want to hear your thoughts on this.


It‘s the same wifom from him not claiming BG or ccing or claiming another role that made him look townie to me today.

Need to reread beginning of a D1 tbh because he seemed off to me and DP. Later I tried to get traction too but can‘t remember who blocked.

So you do think it was a double bus? Because otherwise there would be no reason to lynch VE after Oats if it wasn't, right?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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