On March 07 2024 08:52 sandroba wrote:So this last post from JSL saying absolutely nothing of value about anything, has prompted me to filter dive.
What I found is that JSL has not taken a single bold stance on anyone when trying to find suspicious behaviour. In the few instances where some suspicion is cast, it's always giving people outs in a very non confrontational way, basically avoiding taking any hard stances.
A glaring example, amongst many, is this list post:
On March 05 2024 17:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 05 2024 17:06 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 15:32 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also I am a sucker for a good list post.
You should make one then 😛
I should but I'm too tired after work while sick to actually go filter diving and my partner is saying "I must give them attention" so I'll just vibe post it.
1) raynpelikoneet
Town although has gone quiet after the whole Vivax vs him as Mayor thing could be sleeping.
2) Oatsmaster
I thought he was fixated on dumb early but I didn't think much of it. I thought it would be unusual given my reputation to attack me early if he was Mafia. Not that I'm good early but I've been pretty attack dog high volume doesn't die poster.
3) DarthPunk
DP has cast a spell on me and I have turned into his little sheep dog no questions, this said he sounds super reasonable and even if he was mafia he would still be making the "right town plays" in terms of decision making so I'm not worried.
4) Vivax
Super town now, I haven't pinned Vivax as the one to make the hero play (as mafia)
5) sandroba
Seems reasonable and logical tbh
6) Trfel
As above with sand however as pointed out by others meta is different and has kinda slipped away quietly for a while.
7) marvellosity
I said this before in my other posts I can't read marv early and is backed by two masons right now.
8) Jealous
Dislike inactive
9) Meapak_Ziphh
get the same vibes as koshi where it's sort of been a whirlwind of activity around them I can't actually place once the dust settles
10) Palmar
Yet to see any legendary behaviour
11) justanothertownie
Just another lurker
12) die_meatbaby
I like dmb just the vibe is right from last game when they were town.
13) CopCake
Like the "Cheating" stuff is kinda townish but I did get the impression that at least
someone is being supicious of vivax because "it's what town would do" not because they actually are.
I guess my strongest mafia read based on evidence while having that nagging feeling of being wrong.
14) JacobStrangelove
Seems like your standard chug along until day 3 town player where things become more clear.
15) Hapahauli
Hapabout a post
16) Iamperfection
I didn't like iamp's style until his list post then it redeemed him a bit.
17) Koshi
See Meapak, only addition is they didn't jump on my bait but also last time they did as mafia did not go well. (although that was potentially unrelated)
18) ToTheStars
Possibly understandably overwhelmed by the filter but I almost can't blame them but at the same time as a policy/Mayor hit feel fine with it.
19) VisceraEyes
Similar to my weird stance on DP this game have almost decided to policy not lynch VE
20) Rels
Hasn't raised suspicions
21) Alakaslam
A less chaotic chaos player (out of the chezuinu and other style players) don't have a read just gonna null for now. Maybe slightly town.
Yeah I guess in hindsight I don't have many mafia reads early. After a hit rate of 0 until late game every game though I have decided to be less aggressive. I tend to like to find who's most town then from then who's least coherently town to find the mafia rather than finding the suspicious behaviour outright as I keep jumping on shadows.
Even his highest suspicion has a caveat of a "nagging feeling of being wrong".
He pre-empts any case and posts a case on himself:
On March 05 2024 18:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:Don't worry I'll filter myself.
The case on JSL
On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start.
This is extremely sus. Jacob has never been known to put his ego aside and risk losing to either DP or TTT.
On March 04 2024 12:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Trfel is mafia doesn't know it's his birthday, very sus.... implies he lied when joining. :p
Fluff posting
On March 04 2024 12:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 04 2024 12:14 Vivax wrote:On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start.
0/10 you didn‘t write fanfic where DP sodomized himself
This will come at some point no doubt.... on a side note will probably vote for mayor someone I've played with before just because I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I don't know. (I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I know either tbh but ya know...)
On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.
Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors.
Wishy washy has no faith in himself to come up with reads. Setting up to be non committal day 1
On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,
I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?
Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.
Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.
Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Ahh shit this makes so much more sense when it's read as second in votes for lynch not second in votes for Mayor...
I thought this was like some 5d chess bait post hence the fisherman comment.
Intentionally misreads Meapak to drum up activity
On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:
This said if you make me Mayor I WILL vote for the second in Mayor votes just because that seems very funny.
More Fluff and not funny Town JSL is funny.
On March 04 2024 12:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 04 2024 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 04 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.
Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors.
This really just sounds like you want no part of actually playing the game
Hey at least I'm reading
your posts.
What are your thoughts so far?
I think I'm running into the same thing I run into every game where my highly flowing style is being taken (and I mean this with no offence) slightly autistically but I'm not worried about it yet because I don't think mafia is stupid enough to fight me early.
Implies mafia won’t attack him early to discourage town for attacking him early. Ahh wait that’s technically hmm that doesn’t work actually
On March 04 2024 12:50 JacobStrangelove wrote:On March 04 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 12:42 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:
[quote]You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea.
If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds.
There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works.
Exactly. Dumb post from MZ.
Mafia dumb or dumb dumb?
Not sure, its a whole lot of words about not much at all. I certainly don't want him to be mayor, any rate.
Both mayoral candidates have been underwhelming thus far
Wait you've forgotten about me!
Also MZ sure trusting no one person but if it's like 16 /5 and you trust yourself it's now 15/5 is that better odds than day one second town lynch?
Actually probably not and it at least gets someone town doesn't like gone but in your own words defend yourself!
I wrote it and I’m not even sure what this shit was about.
On March 04 2024 13:00 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Well as someone who also didn't know how the game worked (mayor election/voting for mayor) I didn't talk about the stuff I didn't know about until I went back and read the op and it was brought up and I am a classic case of just ask so I think there is some credence to being sceptical of a precice player just going disco and throwing questions when there are answers if you look into the thread.
After all this never really pressured oats master very much.
On March 04 2024 13:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:
OMG JSL Trfel and I am perf must be scum team they all decided to say the same thing at the same time.
Omg even says he’s part of the scum team must be mafia.
On March 04 2024 13:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:
yeah DMB's big post did seem kinda odd. I don't know why yet though. Just didn't seem like them. Then again it didn't seem like mafia or town them so I'm not sure what that means yet.
Says this but then flip flips on DMB later
On March 04 2024 22:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
oh also going to vote Koshi just because will explain later when I wake up.
Pushes random lynches seeing what will stick.
Okay tbh I kinda petered out at this point.
Now some people found this to be a a town tell, and upon superficial analysis this might seem correct. Townies are in general more bold and impulsive than mafia. But in this case there is no town motivation for making such a post, and there is plenty of mafia motivation: it is disarming, it generates some wifom, it can be seen as "too scummy to be scum".
It's very bold at the very least, but this boldness is not seen from JSL in any town motivated actions such as calling people suspicious or changing tracks completely all of a sudden. JSL has done nothing but fill up space in the thread, posting a lot of fluff, lots of commentary leading nowhere and lost of non confrontational stances.
There is only boldness in mafia oriented behaviour, which is why JSL is mafia.
EPT
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