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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 02:28 GMT
#2767
On March 06 2024 11:25 Trfel wrote:
Yeah sorry, been dealing with some mental health issues, combined with being horrendous on day 1, has made it hard to find mafia or be very effective.

I think raynpelikoneet's play was very solid early on, he feels much more genuine than last game. It feels like he really cares about what he's doing. So I think he is town, same with marvellosity and sandroba by association. I would be very hesitant about suspecting these three. Kinda think DarthPunk is town as well, but I could be wrong.

I don't have any great scumreads unfortunately, or I would have shared them. I still don't like the way iamperfection was playing but I have vague memories of that just being his playstyle so I could be wrong.

Not sure what Vivax is doing with his "reasons" to suspect me. There are reasons I could be mafia, he managed to not find them but is very passionate about it anyway. I don't know if that means anything though.

Okay I hate this post
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 02:28 GMT
#2771
Didn't mean to be rude, sorry about mental issues
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 02:34 GMT
#2788
On March 06 2024 11:32 Trfel wrote:
Why is die_meatbaby mafia? I really didn't think she was suspicious at all, she seemed far more reasonable than last game. Would be very hesitant to suspect her.

May actually be worth taking another look at Vivax because he should know this.

What do you think about the post I quoted?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 02:45 GMT
#2825
On March 06 2024 11:37 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 11:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 06 2024 11:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 06 2024 11:32 Trfel wrote:
Why is die_meatbaby mafia? I really didn't think she was suspicious at all, she seemed far more reasonable than last game. Would be very hesitant to suspect her.

May actually be worth taking another look at Vivax because he should know this.


I called dp mafia... I was to lazy to quote and stuff and two sentences wasn´t enough for oats and Dp. I am not happy with both wagons (both pushed by dp) and I still voted one of the two wagons But I shouldn´t because not wasting my vote makes me scummy.

and i my called people stupid that makes me more scummy
Would like to hear from other people's perspectives but this really really REALLY does not sound like mafia.

Look at Vivax/iamperfection, that's the best I have.

I just told you to look at my perspective, not sure why you are not engaging with anything I said. Our reads were in sync last game, you have me as town (by association with rayn, which is an odd thing to say specially since I've defended you in thread so you should have stand alone reasons to read me town) yet I don't see you looking into things I pointed out. Maybe my reasoning is self-centric here, but why would you not look into the people I find sus if you are tight for time?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 02:52 GMT
#2845
On March 06 2024 11:08 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:44 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 06 2024 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Especially when she is joining my wagon


I don´t really saw you making a wagon. It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever. Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia here just for a reasonable town lynch where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town...

This is a scumslip


word nr.4 today. Thank you love to improve my english

Maybe just tired and annoyed about stupid people here. Either wagons are not a good D1 lynch

Like is this for real? Annoyed at stupid people when she does not have a better lynch and isn't even saying she is confident the wagons are town?

given the context that dmb doesn't think both wagons are townie and she finds d1 lynches to be always bad, do you think it is reasonable she is saying this?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 02:59 GMT
#2876
I mean both are good options at this point. Trfel is just too dissapointing
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 03:07 GMT
#2881
sad
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 13:37 GMT
#3214
I'm liking palmar more and more. His night posts read really genuine to me, maybe I'm a fool but I'm prob not going after palmar d2.
Marv had some paranoind behavior in the qt which has fully convinced me he is town.
I think these are the big question marks for people and I think they are both town.

By process of elimination here is what I'm at:
Likely mafia: ve + rels - both didn't care one bit about the lynch imo
Depending on TTS being mafia or town it leave us 2/3 mafia in this pile:
mz, jsl, jat, cop, dmb, slam

This is where I'm at.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 13:46 GMT
#3222
Nah, I'm not seeing mafia Palmar, he is making too much sense. I think mafia Palmar would be more agenda driven at this point and backing some of the bad interpretations being proposed. Instead he is aligning himself with people I think are town, reading the game in the correct way and improving the direction discussion is going. All pro town things, doesn't make sense to go after him at this point.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 13:48 GMT
#3226
On March 06 2024 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba, if Vivax is mafia this game, then marv is also mafia.

sure. They are both insane if they are mafia this game though
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 13:55 GMT
#3233
On March 06 2024 22:49 CopCake wrote:
And if we go by that

Cake calls mafia Palmar and DP/vivax/iamp

You call mafia Palmar

So I guess you assume I throwed my teamate there just because?

I am GOOD SCUM, I do not make MISTAKES like that, I always try to save my scumates, remember how pissed I got at GB once?

Do you remember how I fuck up hard for trying to save rels when we were mafia together? I convinced HF not to lynch Rels.

You can absolutely acuse me of being ilogical but NEVER of bussing my teams just because.

And this, at least, vivax and marv needs to agree.

And rels.

And GB.

And anyone who has been mafia with me.

Scummy defense tbh, hinges on the premise of palmar is mafia. I've seen mafia due this many times, claiming the team you have them on can't be right because of x y z.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 16:16 GMT
#3368
On March 07 2024 00:27 iamperfection wrote:
I wanna workshop something. I felt like jealous posting was very clean and non confrontational. Very clean for someone who had a ton to catch up to too.

I was momentarily under that impression, but then I looked into his list post and the sheer amount of work that was put into it including the spoilers. He has to be town
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 20:04 GMT
#3568
On March 07 2024 04:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 04:46 Jealous wrote:
I get that you guys know each other, but could we maybe not shit up two pages with out-of-game devolutions to Alakaslam-tier posting? Makes it tougher for others to catch up and makes their eyes glaze over when reading, which is how I missed the Alakaslam cop claim in the first place. I'm sure you guys are all friends on Discord and are probably in the same channel somewhere or something.


Worse we mason up and watch anime tiddies together

Sounds like you are jealous.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 20:05 GMT
#3571
Woops I had to ruin it by quoting the wrong post
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 06 2024 23:52 GMT
#3619
So this last post from JSL saying absolutely nothing of value about anything, has prompted me to filter dive.
What I found is that JSL has not taken a single bold stance on anyone when trying to find suspicious behaviour. In the few instances where some suspicion is cast, it's always giving people outs in a very non confrontational way, basically avoiding taking any hard stances.
A glaring example, amongst many, is this list post:
On March 05 2024 17:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 17:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 15:32 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also I am a sucker for a good list post.


You should make one then 😛


I should but I'm too tired after work while sick to actually go filter diving and my partner is saying "I must give them attention" so I'll just vibe post it.

1) raynpelikoneet

Town although has gone quiet after the whole Vivax vs him as Mayor thing could be sleeping.


2) Oatsmaster

I thought he was fixated on dumb early but I didn't think much of it. I thought it would be unusual given my reputation to attack me early if he was Mafia. Not that I'm good early but I've been pretty attack dog high volume doesn't die poster.

3) DarthPunk
DP has cast a spell on me and I have turned into his little sheep dog no questions, this said he sounds super reasonable and even if he was mafia he would still be making the "right town plays" in terms of decision making so I'm not worried.

4) Vivax

Super town now, I haven't pinned Vivax as the one to make the hero play (as mafia)

5) sandroba

Seems reasonable and logical tbh

6) Trfel

As above with sand however as pointed out by others meta is different and has kinda slipped away quietly for a while.

7) marvellosity

I said this before in my other posts I can't read marv early and is backed by two masons right now.

8) Jealous

Dislike inactive

9) Meapak_Ziphh

get the same vibes as koshi where it's sort of been a whirlwind of activity around them I can't actually place once the dust settles

10) Palmar
Yet to see any legendary behaviour

11) justanothertownie
Just another lurker

12) die_meatbaby
I like dmb just the vibe is right from last game when they were town.

13) CopCake
Like the "Cheating" stuff is kinda townish but I did get the impression that at least someone is being supicious of vivax because "it's what town would do" not because they actually are.

I guess my strongest mafia read based on evidence while having that nagging feeling of being wrong.

14) JacobStrangelove
Seems like your standard chug along until day 3 town player where things become more clear.

15) Hapahauli

Hapabout a post

16) Iamperfection

I didn't like iamp's style until his list post then it redeemed him a bit.

17) Koshi

See Meapak, only addition is they didn't jump on my bait but also last time they did as mafia did not go well. (although that was potentially unrelated)

18) ToTheStars
Possibly understandably overwhelmed by the filter but I almost can't blame them but at the same time as a policy/Mayor hit feel fine with it.

19) VisceraEyes

Similar to my weird stance on DP this game have almost decided to policy not lynch VE

20) Rels

Hasn't raised suspicions
21) Alakaslam

A less chaotic chaos player (out of the chezuinu and other style players) don't have a read just gonna null for now. Maybe slightly town.


Yeah I guess in hindsight I don't have many mafia reads early. After a hit rate of 0 until late game every game though I have decided to be less aggressive. I tend to like to find who's most town then from then who's least coherently town to find the mafia rather than finding the suspicious behaviour outright as I keep jumping on shadows.


Even his highest suspicion has a caveat of a "nagging feeling of being wrong".

He pre-empts any case and posts a case on himself:

On March 05 2024 18:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Don't worry I'll filter myself.

The case on JSL

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start.


This is extremely sus. Jacob has never been known to put his ego aside and risk losing to either DP or TTT.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Trfel is mafia doesn't know it's his birthday, very sus.... implies he lied when joining. :p


Fluff posting

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Vivax wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start.


0/10 you didn‘t write fanfic where DP sodomized himself


This will come at some point no doubt.... on a side note will probably vote for mayor someone I've played with before just because I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I don't know. (I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I know either tbh but ya know...)


Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.

Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors.


Wishy washy has no faith in himself to come up with reads. Setting up to be non committal day 1

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.



Ahh shit this makes so much more sense when it's read as second in votes for lynch not second in votes for Mayor...

I thought this was like some 5d chess bait post hence the fisherman comment.


Intentionally misreads Meapak to drum up activity

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:
This said if you make me Mayor I WILL vote for the second in Mayor votes just because that seems very funny.


More Fluff and not funny Town JSL is funny.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.

Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors.

This really just sounds like you want no part of actually playing the game


Hey at least I'm reading your posts.

What are your thoughts so far?


I think I'm running into the same thing I run into every game where my highly flowing style is being taken (and I mean this with no offence) slightly autistically but I'm not worried about it yet because I don't think mafia is stupid enough to fight me early.


Implies mafia won’t attack him early to discourage town for attacking him early. Ahh wait that’s technically hmm that doesn’t work actually

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:50 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:42 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:
[quote]I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no?

That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc.
You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea.

If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds.
There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works.


Exactly. Dumb post from MZ.
Mafia dumb or dumb dumb?

Not sure, its a whole lot of words about not much at all. I certainly don't want him to be mayor, any rate.

Both mayoral candidates have been underwhelming thus far



Wait you've forgotten about me!



Also MZ sure trusting no one person but if it's like 16 /5 and you trust yourself it's now 15/5 is that better odds than day one second town lynch?

Actually probably not and it at least gets someone town doesn't like gone but in your own words defend yourself!


I wrote it and I’m not even sure what this shit was about.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 13:00 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Well as someone who also didn't know how the game worked (mayor election/voting for mayor) I didn't talk about the stuff I didn't know about until I went back and read the op and it was brought up and I am a classic case of just ask so I think there is some credence to being sceptical of a precice player just going disco and throwing questions when there are answers if you look into the thread.



After all this never really pressured oats master very much.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 13:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:
OMG JSL Trfel and I am perf must be scum team they all decided to say the same thing at the same time.


Omg even says he’s part of the scum team must be mafia.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 13:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:
yeah DMB's big post did seem kinda odd. I don't know why yet though. Just didn't seem like them. Then again it didn't seem like mafia or town them so I'm not sure what that means yet.


Says this but then flip flips on DMB later

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 22:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
oh also going to vote Koshi just because will explain later when I wake up.


Pushes random lynches seeing what will stick.

Okay tbh I kinda petered out at this point.


Now some people found this to be a a town tell, and upon superficial analysis this might seem correct. Townies are in general more bold and impulsive than mafia. But in this case there is no town motivation for making such a post, and there is plenty of mafia motivation: it is disarming, it generates some wifom, it can be seen as "too scummy to be scum".

It's very bold at the very least, but this boldness is not seen from JSL in any town motivated actions such as calling people suspicious or changing tracks completely all of a sudden. JSL has done nothing but fill up space in the thread, posting a lot of fluff, lots of commentary leading nowhere and lost of non confrontational stances.

There is only boldness in mafia oriented behaviour, which is why JSL is mafia.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 07 2024 00:09 GMT
#3625
On March 07 2024 09:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 08:52 sandroba wrote:
So this last post from JSL saying absolutely nothing of value about anything, has prompted me to filter dive.
What I found is that JSL has not taken a single bold stance on anyone when trying to find suspicious behaviour. In the few instances where some suspicion is cast, it's always giving people outs in a very non confrontational way, basically avoiding taking any hard stances.
A glaring example, amongst many, is this list post:
On March 05 2024 17:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 05 2024 17:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 15:32 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also I am a sucker for a good list post.


You should make one then 😛


I should but I'm too tired after work while sick to actually go filter diving and my partner is saying "I must give them attention" so I'll just vibe post it.

1) raynpelikoneet

Town although has gone quiet after the whole Vivax vs him as Mayor thing could be sleeping.


2) Oatsmaster

I thought he was fixated on dumb early but I didn't think much of it. I thought it would be unusual given my reputation to attack me early if he was Mafia. Not that I'm good early but I've been pretty attack dog high volume doesn't die poster.

3) DarthPunk
DP has cast a spell on me and I have turned into his little sheep dog no questions, this said he sounds super reasonable and even if he was mafia he would still be making the "right town plays" in terms of decision making so I'm not worried.

4) Vivax

Super town now, I haven't pinned Vivax as the one to make the hero play (as mafia)

5) sandroba

Seems reasonable and logical tbh

6) Trfel

As above with sand however as pointed out by others meta is different and has kinda slipped away quietly for a while.

7) marvellosity

I said this before in my other posts I can't read marv early and is backed by two masons right now.

8) Jealous

Dislike inactive

9) Meapak_Ziphh

get the same vibes as koshi where it's sort of been a whirlwind of activity around them I can't actually place once the dust settles

10) Palmar
Yet to see any legendary behaviour

11) justanothertownie
Just another lurker

12) die_meatbaby
I like dmb just the vibe is right from last game when they were town.

13) CopCake
Like the "Cheating" stuff is kinda townish but I did get the impression that at least someone is being supicious of vivax because "it's what town would do" not because they actually are.

I guess my strongest mafia read based on evidence while having that nagging feeling of being wrong.

14) JacobStrangelove
Seems like your standard chug along until day 3 town player where things become more clear.

15) Hapahauli

Hapabout a post

16) Iamperfection

I didn't like iamp's style until his list post then it redeemed him a bit.

17) Koshi

See Meapak, only addition is they didn't jump on my bait but also last time they did as mafia did not go well. (although that was potentially unrelated)

18) ToTheStars
Possibly understandably overwhelmed by the filter but I almost can't blame them but at the same time as a policy/Mayor hit feel fine with it.

19) VisceraEyes

Similar to my weird stance on DP this game have almost decided to policy not lynch VE

20) Rels

Hasn't raised suspicions
21) Alakaslam

A less chaotic chaos player (out of the chezuinu and other style players) don't have a read just gonna null for now. Maybe slightly town.


Yeah I guess in hindsight I don't have many mafia reads early. After a hit rate of 0 until late game every game though I have decided to be less aggressive. I tend to like to find who's most town then from then who's least coherently town to find the mafia rather than finding the suspicious behaviour outright as I keep jumping on shadows.


Even his highest suspicion has a caveat of a "nagging feeling of being wrong".

He pre-empts any case and posts a case on himself:

On March 05 2024 18:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Don't worry I'll filter myself.

The case on JSL

On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start.


This is extremely sus. Jacob has never been known to put his ego aside and risk losing to either DP or TTT.

On March 04 2024 12:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Trfel is mafia doesn't know it's his birthday, very sus.... implies he lied when joining. :p


Fluff posting

On March 04 2024 12:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Vivax wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start.


0/10 you didn‘t write fanfic where DP sodomized himself


This will come at some point no doubt.... on a side note will probably vote for mayor someone I've played with before just because I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I don't know. (I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I know either tbh but ya know...)


On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.

Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors.


Wishy washy has no faith in himself to come up with reads. Setting up to be non committal day 1

On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.



Ahh shit this makes so much more sense when it's read as second in votes for lynch not second in votes for Mayor...

I thought this was like some 5d chess bait post hence the fisherman comment.


Intentionally misreads Meapak to drum up activity

On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote:
This said if you make me Mayor I WILL vote for the second in Mayor votes just because that seems very funny.


More Fluff and not funny Town JSL is funny.

On March 04 2024 12:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
@oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then.

Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors.

This really just sounds like you want no part of actually playing the game


Hey at least I'm reading your posts.

What are your thoughts so far?


I think I'm running into the same thing I run into every game where my highly flowing style is being taken (and I mean this with no offence) slightly autistically but I'm not worried about it yet because I don't think mafia is stupid enough to fight me early.


Implies mafia won’t attack him early to discourage town for attacking him early. Ahh wait that’s technically hmm that doesn’t work actually

On March 04 2024 12:50 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:42 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:
[quote]You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea.

If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds.
There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works.


Exactly. Dumb post from MZ.
Mafia dumb or dumb dumb?

Not sure, its a whole lot of words about not much at all. I certainly don't want him to be mayor, any rate.

Both mayoral candidates have been underwhelming thus far



Wait you've forgotten about me!



Also MZ sure trusting no one person but if it's like 16 /5 and you trust yourself it's now 15/5 is that better odds than day one second town lynch?

Actually probably not and it at least gets someone town doesn't like gone but in your own words defend yourself!


I wrote it and I’m not even sure what this shit was about.

On March 04 2024 13:00 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Well as someone who also didn't know how the game worked (mayor election/voting for mayor) I didn't talk about the stuff I didn't know about until I went back and read the op and it was brought up and I am a classic case of just ask so I think there is some credence to being sceptical of a precice player just going disco and throwing questions when there are answers if you look into the thread.



After all this never really pressured oats master very much.

On March 04 2024 13:16 JacobStrangelove wrote:
OMG JSL Trfel and I am perf must be scum team they all decided to say the same thing at the same time.


Omg even says he’s part of the scum team must be mafia.

On March 04 2024 13:24 JacobStrangelove wrote:
yeah DMB's big post did seem kinda odd. I don't know why yet though. Just didn't seem like them. Then again it didn't seem like mafia or town them so I'm not sure what that means yet.


Says this but then flip flips on DMB later

On March 04 2024 22:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
oh also going to vote Koshi just because will explain later when I wake up.


Pushes random lynches seeing what will stick.

Okay tbh I kinda petered out at this point.


Now some people found this to be a a town tell, and upon superficial analysis this might seem correct. Townies are in general more bold and impulsive than mafia. But in this case there is no town motivation for making such a post, and there is plenty of mafia motivation: it is disarming, it generates some wifom, it can be seen as "too scummy to be scum".

It's very bold at the very least, but this boldness is not seen from JSL in any town motivated actions such as calling people suspicious or changing tracks completely all of a sudden. JSL has done nothing but fill up space in the thread, posting a lot of fluff, lots of commentary leading nowhere and lost of non confrontational stances.

There is only boldness in mafia oriented behaviour, which is why JSL is mafia.


Do you think that JSL would filter dive Koshi and then make that whole big post about a scumslip and subsequent case as mafia?


Yes, the content of that post is very underwhelming. There is a lot of pointless commentary and the main callout is of a scum slip which is semantics and a widely used way of phrasing things even when you don't know the alignment of the person in quesiton. So yeah, looks like a low effort mafia post pretending to be high effort.
sandroba
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March 07 2024 03:11 GMT
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gl town!
sandroba
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March 21 2024 20:25 GMT
#11087
This was definitely the best-performing mafia team in any game I've played or read. Huge props and thank you for making the game very interesting and fun. I look forward to playing again with this crew and trying to adapt to this level of play.
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