A Classy Game of Mafia - Page 5

On March 07 2024 23:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

They might or might not depending on the team. But I think grilling slam and sowing doubt on the check is the wrong thing to do this cycle. We could instead be discussing VE or TTS or even yourself and be planning ahead for tomorrow rather than losing this day to what is essentially WIFOM discussion about the check. I think it's easier for scum to just chum up the thread with pointless discussion on whether Slam's check is good or not. Scum don't even have to get Oats out of the check to have a succesful day, just spend it wasting time on pointless discussion rather than other potential scum.

On March 06 2024 10:54 Jealous wrote:
I don't want to misrep Oats so I will be limiting to what I consider reads to being their "votes" in this thread and if they ever directly say that someone is scummy/town. Simply "I don't like this (post)" is not enough IMO. In chronological order"

+ Show Spoiler [Links] +

So we have:

Town:
Koshi (previously scum voted)*
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Jealous
Meapak_Ziphh
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels
Alakaslam

Scum:
VE
Jacob
DMB
CopCake
Slam
Vivax
JAT
Koshi*

Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."


Seem right, @Oats?

On March 07 2024 23:46 Koshi wrote:
I dont want to waste this day because I might have not many left. But I admit my posts here are trash. Ok. I will think and come back with something better.

MZ not sure why you want to shade me for thinking and talking during this dead period.

On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:

Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:
2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA.
3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus"
3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows.
3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.*
4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia"
4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree "

So we have:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels

Scum:
Meapak_Ziphh
Jealous [?]*
Jacob
VE
DMB
CopCake

Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."

@Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why?

On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:

Updated list:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Jacob
CopCake
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
marvellosity
ToTheStars
Rels
Jealous

Scum:
JAT
Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob
ToTheStars
VE
DMB
CopCake

Can you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate.


From this, quoted above in response to the original list:

On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:

Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one.

1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct?
2. Why is JAT scum?
3. And why is CopCake town?

On March 08 2024 00:42 Jealous wrote:

It felt like a reactionary post because of their math/slamming the CopCake x Alakaslam line of discussion, like you got mad because they did that and messed up the % chances so you latched onto them for it.

Like you, I wasn't thrilled about their Day 1 play, but it's also Day 1 stuff so I'm more willing to write it off when there were people I was more interested in looking into. I also agreed with you that I wanted them to elaborate on their new reads more, particularly the TRs. Without getting more elaboration I find it hard to evaluate how natural the progression is, but I do see your point and will keep an eye out. I also think that they weren't really active/trying to find mafia but they also at least gave a reason for it, as opposed to some other people.

I agree that there is something worth digging into, I just don't think I feel as strongly about it as you seem to at this specific moment.

RE: DMB, I didn't like their posting almost at any point to be honest, they were one of my frontrunners for a lynch, but I think I will have to back off of this until we see how you flip because of how quickly you voted DMB after Alakaslam's reveal. Things might be clearer then.

On March 08 2024 02:11 Jealous wrote:


1) raynpelikoneet - Was scum reading, flipped town.
2) Oatsmaster - Was town reading, have to assume scum.
3) DarthPunk - Still town reading.
4) Vivax - Still have to assume town read.
5) sandroba - Was town reading, flipped town.
6) Trfel - Was neutral, sheeped Koshi's vote reasons, flipped town.
7) marvellosity - Still green.
8) Jealous - I'm VT.
9) Meapak_Ziphh - Was leaning town, still leaning town but not as confident as other reads.
10) Palmar - Was neutral but unimpressed, now thinking town is somewhat likely.
11) justanothertownie - Was neutral, had ups and downs, now back to neutral-ish.
12) die_meatbaby - Was neutral, went down, now I am just withholding judgment until further info.
13) CopCake - Still lynchable to me.
14) JacobStrangelove - Basically have to believe roleclaim at this point in time at least.
15) Hapahauli - Guessed town despite policy lynch status, flipped town.
16) Iamperfection - Was town, still town.
17) Koshi - Was town, still town, but am less confident compared to before.
18) ToTheStars - Was leaning scum, that hasn't changed and they've been absent, good lynch IMO.
19) VisceraEyes - Was neutral, leaning scum due to PoE and relative reads to others basically.
20) Rels - Was neutral, still fairly neutral mostly due to lack of impressions on activity, will filter next.
21) Alakaslam - Was leaning lynch/scum/wtf, now have to believe claim at this moment.

On March 08 2024 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:

I am very very rarely blue. I haven't formed a blue meta yet

On March 08 2024 03:20 Alakaslam wrote:

I am very very rarely blue. I haven't formed a blue meta yet

When we get the Oats flip, we will know what Slam is for sure either way.

On March 08 2024 05:47 Jealous wrote:


"7) marvellosity - Have mostly been able to follow along with their reasoning even if I don’t agree with all of their reads IIRC."

Ref link.

On March 08 2024 06:30 iamperfection wrote:
Did you see my point about his comeback post.

On March 08 2024 06:54 DarthPunk wrote:


Where are they saying that?