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On March 04 2024 14:39 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:36 JacobStrangelove wrote:
That's just for the mayor choosing who they're killing. All other votes are public. But i want to see that too. Mafia will vote on the same scum person. Risk for having scum major is even higher
what are you talking about
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On March 04 2024 14:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
[quote]May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor? Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started. Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before. Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no? And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. Good to have a variety of opinions eh
Explain this please
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On March 04 2024 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Good morning everyone. It turns out I'm town for once so I apologize in advance for your own inability to read me and subsequent mislynch of me. I will endeavor to prevent it but I would do that as Mafia too so shrugz0rz.
I am running for mayor on a platform of lynching a lurker of my own choosing that is not subject to towns knowledge or influence.
A vote for VE is a vote for an active town.
Anyone who has posted so far is safe D1, for I am a kind and benevolent Lord.
Why lurker
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On March 04 2024 14:43 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:30 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?
And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. Good to have a variety of opinions eh Explain this please Clearly, people have had very different reactions to what they read M_Z as saying than I do! Any further clarification required will be difficult as that will indicate I don't even understand your question.
Why is it good to have a variety of opinions in this game
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On March 04 2024 14:45 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:43 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 14:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:30 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:
[quote]I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. Good to have a variety of opinions eh Explain this please Clearly, people have had very different reactions to what they read M_Z as saying than I do! Any further clarification required will be difficult as that will indicate I don't even understand your question. Why is it good to have a variety of opinions in this game You prefer everyone agreeing with the mafia?
How is that what I said? Just answer the question
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Cake also just straight up dipped
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On March 04 2024 14:48 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:45 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:43 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 14:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:30 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:
[quote]You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. Good to have a variety of opinions eh Explain this please Clearly, people have had very different reactions to what they read M_Z as saying than I do! Any further clarification required will be difficult as that will indicate I don't even understand your question. Why is it good to have a variety of opinions in this game You prefer everyone agreeing with the mafia? How is that what I said? Just answer the question If not that, then think deeply about the purpose of your question. It is good to have a variety of opinions in the thread as this aids scum hunting. Dude. Come now. Wisdom please.
That’s literally describing the game, why is it something you felt was important to point out when responding to trefels post
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On March 04 2024 14:51 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:39 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 04 2024 14:36 JacobStrangelove wrote:
That's just for the mayor choosing who they're killing. All other votes are public. But i want to see that too. Mafia will vote on the same scum person. Risk for having scum major is even higher what are you talking about At the some point we will discuss who we elect as mayor and of course there will also be a scum about what Town might choose. Mafia will discuss in the discord who has the best townreads up to that point and most likely has the best chances to be elected mayor. That's 5 votes on a scum person + probably one or two townies who might vote for that person. So the probability that the mayor is not tip top town but mafia is very high. And if the whole thing was public, not all 5 could vote for the same person because it would be too conspicuous
It is public
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On March 04 2024 15:04 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m really not a fan of cake doing random stuff when we have like 10 pages already CALLED IT like 3 hours late or some shit but hot damn Oats, I work 64 hours a week- I am here to enjoy myself. Must be nice to have time to turn this into work. Not that we won't play the game proper. Just... Idk chill a bit
You don’t think it’s scummy to not engage with the game at all?
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On March 04 2024 14:53 ToTheStars wrote:
Read pages 8/9/10 only
Vote: trfel
Explain please
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Slam not pinging on someone with a diametrically opposite read from his is scummy
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On March 04 2024 15:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats looking better.
Why? I’m doing the same shit I was earlier
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On March 04 2024 15:21 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Slam not pinging on someone with a diametrically opposite read from his is scummy ....right Ok so townies can't disagree and be aware of their ability and propensity to disagree You know? I am male as fuck but there are apparently ways in which I am non-binary.
You are doing nothing to figure out if tothesky is town
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Cake came back and opened up okay
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On March 04 2024 15:29 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:19 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:14 CopCake wrote:
🤭 This is so funny Cake who would you lynch right now and who would you make mayor right now? I would lynch you in a heartbeat - when I arrived you didn't try to engage me until way later (i ignored your question to see how you would react to that and there was like literally not opinion of it when the last game we played we did the opposite) - you are generally a thread control person and you are confident of your reads, here you wait for the opinion of rayn just to tell him later he is wrong and cant read you? With a little bit of bragginess - Now you think Oats is right at reading me suspicious because ??????? He has like no idea how I play. I also do not think you are trying to solve the game. Cake why did I have to ask you for a read before you stated all this? You asked me for reads before and I ignored them, in porpouse. And I go to office soon and I have a meeting. And a lot of work since I was on vacation. So next time I will post will be in 10 hours or so. And since I consider you might be mafia trying to hold on the thin - read - of oats to do something against me, I decided to act.
What exactly is “how you play”
What is your read on me then?
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Koshi is trying too hard to do his “I’m so town look at me stuff”
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Vivax continuing to have the conversation on trefels like 4th post and not actually reading what Sandro is saying is scummy
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On March 04 2024 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 23:20 marvellosity wrote:On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia. Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right? No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment. What did it mean about that? Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things. If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment. I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia. I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment. 1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point 2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't. Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town? For the uninitiated, why can’t Slam do this as town? I don't think he can't per se. I just think he wouldn't. Like let's be honest Slam is voting either Hapa, marv or rayn for mayor (unless he has to pick someone else), mostly Hapa. I can't possibly understand why he makes posts like: "Liked trfel and now considering voting trfel for mayor" or "Second pick is VE, he has some decent logic on why he would lurker lynch." Is he ever going to actually vote for either of those people for mayor? Especially VE for THAT reasoning? I just don't see the point of putting it like that. It's kind of a townread but still not really. And i can't possibly understand why he wants me for mayor, why would you EVER want anyone for mayor who wants to lynch you??? Just because i agreed with 2 of his reads like 3 hours into the game?
Good post
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On March 05 2024 00:12 iamperfection wrote:
I have been thinking about the whisperer. There is no reason not to claim it immediately if your town no? I think so right? As in I am the whisperer and I whispered so and so.
Claim nearer to EoD I think is better,
Definitely should claim it at some point before night though
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