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On March 04 2024 13:09 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 13:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Vivax wrote:On March 04 2024 12:38 iamperfection wrote: can we not speculate on hypothetical wagons for now.
For what its worth nobody's posts have given me mafia goosebumps yet. Are you so quick to write off Oats for not reading the OP? But I agree that I probably won‘t vote for him. He was good last game on MS though, when he was town. It's weird to me that both you and DP mentioned the MS game within a minute of each other in your attempts to call out oats. Trfel or Jacob I'm curious if this stood out to either of you guys. Especially in light of DP seemingly backing off Oats a bit It didn't stand out to me, why? Are you suggesting that they were talking about it in the mafia chat or something which is why they brought it up here? (which seems extremely unlikely) Or what makes this interesting? It did make me wonder, one of them could have mentioned it in a scum chat and then they both decided to bring it up, not realizing the other was going to say it.
... ok as I typed that out, I realized how tinfoil hat it sounds. That's a very very unlikely scenario, disregard.
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On March 04 2024 13:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 13:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Vivax wrote:On March 04 2024 12:38 iamperfection wrote: can we not speculate on hypothetical wagons for now.
For what its worth nobody's posts have given me mafia goosebumps yet. Are you so quick to write off Oats for not reading the OP? But I agree that I probably won‘t vote for him. He was good last game on MS though, when he was town. It's weird to me that both you and DP mentioned the MS game within a minute of each other in your attempts to call out oats. Trfel or Jacob I'm curious if this stood out to either of you guys. Especially in light of DP seemingly backing off Oats a bit To be honest no I wasn't paying attention to previous game meta as I wasn't watching it if they were both heavly involved so I've just been half filtering it out as vibes. This said thinking about it now I think it would be strange for mafia dp to get vivax and be like hey lets both at the same time back off or go on oats with the same reasoning so I think it's a conicidence. Yeah like I said in my response to trfel I think I had my D1 tinfoil hat on a bit too tight but it was just really weird reading very similar posts back to back.
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On March 04 2024 13:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 13:16 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 04 2024 13:05 DarthPunk wrote: DMB what is vivax's alignment? EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS A SUSPECT RIGHT now. How the hell should i tell after one hour who could be tip top town (for this shit mayor thing) and mafia. He is nothing as player right now. But he was so mad at you for getting fooled by you on mafiascum that it´s just strange how give you this fucking early a townread. the hell i am thinking already of you and Vivax togther. But still to fucking early to make any decision on any aligment. I will take the first day do find a tip top town to vote as mayor because we always get the first lynch wrong anyways but thats how find the mafia later. I just don´t know what will happen if we lose the game because if mafia will fool us that this one person is maximum Town and best option for mayor. What happens if we vote mafia for mayor? we can not just lynch our mayor or can we still? Do you have any game with mayor I can read so I would better understand how importend that role is? Because I think mafia will act and play differnt as usuall on D1 just because of this. HEY WHAT HAPPENS IN VEGAS AND IN THE BEDROOM STAYS THERE I actually think DMB is asking a very fair question here. You're townreading DP off of a similar read on Oat's activity but DP has subsequently backed off that read a bit. Are you still viewing him as town? Are you still suspicious of oats?
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On March 04 2024 13:24 JacobStrangelove wrote: yeah DMB's big post did seem kinda odd. I don't know why yet though. Just didn't seem like them. Then again it didn't seem like mafia or town them so I'm not sure what that means yet. This is DMB's first game where she got lynched as town, give it a read bc so far she comes across very similar imo.
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I'm going to bed, got work in the morning but I'll try to stay caught up on the thread on my phone so I don't have 5 million pages to read tomorrow night.
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On March 04 2024 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Good morning everyone. It turns out I'm town for once so I apologize in advance for your own inability to read me and subsequent mislynch of me. I will endeavor to prevent it but I would do that as Mafia too so shrugz0rz.
I am running for mayor on a platform of lynching a lurker of my own choosing that is not subject to towns knowledge or influence.
A vote for VE is a vote for an active town.
Anyone who has posted so far is safe D1, for I am a kind and benevolent Lord. Catching up on the shitter at work
Any lurkers stick out to you yet?
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On March 04 2024 14:53 ToTheStars wrote: Read pages 8/9/10 only
Vote: trfel Terrible post, care to explain this read?
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On March 04 2024 15:36 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:34 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:33 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:31 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:28 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 15:20 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:18 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2024 15:12 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 14:58 Alakaslam wrote: [quote] How was T.h.i.s. important C A K E ?
I have a bitterness not against cake indeed! I shall become foul. ???? What do you mean Mr Darcy? Nay, I am just Saitama at best Wickham at worst. Oh shit that is sooooo bad, I like Mr. Bingley. Well, Heyoka or whoever does it now was too slow So I must be Alakaslam Which is much closer to uncle. . . What was David Balfour's uncle's name? Or maybe Captian Hoseason. The uncle is a cool guy, totally fits you 👏🏼🥂 I honestly forgot the name too 🤣 I am a fan of the Keira Knightley movie. Stop avoiding my question. I am not avoiding? My towncircle is obs dumb and truffle Why are they town? Ok mr. Fakey pretending to solve the game Why am i mafia or why am i town? Who is town and who is mafia? I've absolutely hated the last two pages from cake. She blatantly avoided DP to the point where he had to ask 3 times. This is much better from DP compared to the shit with Oats in the beginning and throws an immediate red flag for Cake in my eyes.
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On March 04 2024 15:37 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:36 Alakaslam wrote: Oats and DP scum for scraping the bottom of the barrel?
Do either of you even have mayor picks of your own?
This is why I prefer Rayn, on like 5 posts, to either of you.
Yeesh.
Tothesky is some dude I have never seen before. Idk, I give Oats a pass for being new here? And not knowing the oh so called meta? Darth on the other hand, feels odd. Oats is definitely not new.
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On March 04 2024 15:42 DarthPunk wrote: God getting answers from cake is like pulling teeth. No reason for town to play so cagey, especially D1
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On March 04 2024 15:43 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 15:38 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:38 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:37 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:36 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:34 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:33 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 15:31 CopCake wrote:On March 04 2024 15:28 Alakaslam wrote: [quote] Well, Heyoka or whoever does it now was too slow
So I must be Alakaslam
Which is much closer to uncle. . . What was David Balfour's uncle's name?
Or maybe Captian Hoseason. The uncle is a cool guy, totally fits you 👏🏼🥂 I honestly forgot the name too 🤣 I am a fan of the Keira Knightley movie. Stop avoiding my question. I am not avoiding? My towncircle is obs dumb and truffle Why are they town? Ok mr. Fakey pretending to solve the game Why am i mafia or why am i town? Who is town and who is mafia? Answer my question and then I will answer yours. Which ones I ignored? Why did you think DMB and Trfel were town when you invited them to the tea party? I liked Dumb calling out how different you are playing here, the lack of macho bravado. She is flowing on her own. Trfl is the same, composed and trying to answer, giving different perspectives. Besides last game he was insane with his reads so he gets invited. Although I actually agree with her reasoning here. I just hate how it feels like it took her time after the fact to come up with reasons since it took her so long to answer so it feels a bit disingenuous.
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On March 04 2024 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's very easy to follow Cake's thought process on your "problem" with her. If she is mafia, your reasoning is definitely not why she is mafia. It's not her problem if you didn't understand she called Trfel and DMB town, hell i can even easily follow her reasoning. Just because she is being abrasive towards you (or you think so) doesn't make her mafia.
Slam has actually posted some scummy shit which i will come back to later. Also his town meta imo contradicts heavily his MO this game, yet you are somehow unwilling to make any conclusion about his alignment so far. I hope you come back to the slam point later in the thread bc right now I disagree with your meta read. I pretty consistently say I can't read slam but I feel like after last game I was getting better at it. Granted that was 9 months ago.
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On March 04 2024 18:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote: If we vote for the tip top town to be mayor, why can't we trust them with a vig shot?
Sure make suggestions and stuff, but I know if I was the mayor I am just going to back myself, because I know I am town and can make a smart shot.
But I don't know if you're town and I'm still not trusting my tip top town with a shot on D1. Sorry MZ, you’d trust a collective town with all sorts of levels of play, and containing multiple mafia, to make a better choice than your best town read? On D1? Yes. Outside of people like Ver or Ace or incognito, I don't think there's anyone on TL who I'd trust over my own reads on D1. I know trfel and I kinda beat the whole mayor kill thing to death in the first few pages but I just think using it as a town double lynch has a way higher chance of hitting scum than one guy taking a gut shot.
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On March 04 2024 19:39 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 17:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cake do you think DP's reasoning for calling you mafia last game when you were actually mafia was good? If I remember correctly, he called me mafia for having TMI for calling you town in a secure way. Which I applaud. Here, I honestly do not understand or I am pretty stupid. Anyways, that doesnt change my read on him. He is a strong, secure player. He cares for other people’s opinions like when he was town in the game Slam was mafia. In the marvvivaxcake game, I was asking many questions, he engaged and answered. He demanded answers. Here, I ignored him and he did nothing until Oats came and started to talk about me. As someone who kinda “played” him, I would imagine he would try to figure me out asap. (Played as in I stayed alive and made him second guess TTT) Thing is, DP is bravado, he has said so before such as “he controls lynches” and stuff like that. Here, he is too quiet for the exception of calling me wolf.
As I said before, if he was interested in me he would have called me out inmediatly for ignoring him and not just when Oats came. Idk it seems like lazy mafia using “I was right last time” Am I wrong for getting with this conclusion? This is a general question for everyone, not just Rayn. First off the red piece is objectively wrong, DP is like a top 3 poster in this game purely on volume. Secondly I think you're completely mischaracterizing the interaction you two had a couple of pages back.
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On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote: I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).
I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).
And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads. OK this is fair in my eyes, TL towns are very chatty and if you come from somewhere that's not I could believe this position.
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On March 04 2024 20:50 Vivax wrote: Well for TTS it‘s an easy explanation: He also didn‘t like Trfel‘s posts. Do you agree with the reasons he didn't like it? I get where he's coming from since he's a new player but I'm not sure what you see wrong with it?
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On March 04 2024 21:58 CopCake wrote: vote: slam
???
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On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think Cake is town? I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia. Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right? No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment. What did it mean about that? Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things. If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment. I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia. I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment. 1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point 2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't. Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town? I don't like your trfel read especially since you withdrew it right as sandroba showed up in the thread and said he didn't like trfel's post as well.
Or maybe trfel just has me pocketed bc I liked our conversations in the first few pages.
Thanks for expanding on your slam read, that actually makes a lot of sense and is congruent with how I've read the last few pages.
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On March 04 2024 23:12 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 22:13 JacobStrangelove wrote: That's a good point sandro, curious to know your thoughts on copcake vs DP and Ray's alighnment from your perspective.
Honestly undecided on DP, leaning town on copcake. If I had to decide now I would say it's most likely TvT here. Rayn is amongst my top town with dmb and trfel, Coincidentally, you are one of my few scum hunches so far. I don't agree with the town on copcake but the rest of your reads are fairly close to mine, DP's posts on copcake have me feeling much better about him.
I'd love to hear more about Jacob from you bc there's a post I have in mind and I'm wondering if it's the same one that set off your alarm bells.
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On March 05 2024 00:12 iamperfection wrote: I have been thinking about the whisperer. There is no reason not to claim it immediately if your town no? I think so right? As in I am the whisperer and I whispered so and so. Who's scum? I started off agreeing with you on Oats but you haven't done much since. Is DP still suspicious to you?
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