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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 16 2023 19:08 GMT
#2437
On December 17 2023 02:56 Trfel wrote:
raynpelikoneet

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On December 11 2023 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 11 2023 03:51 Trfel wrote:
On December 10 2023 21:41 Vivax wrote:
Palmar a bit too sure of himself in tone for my liking. Like he's got somebody lined up to be gifted a pair of shiny concrete boots, maybe a weak teammate under threat (which could be sandro).

He's very conscious of the Trfel/Sandro dichotomy here but not as motivated to deliver much explanation of his own as he is to appear motivated to lynch into it.
I believe this is the post in question.

Raynpelikoneet, other than the above question though, can you help me understand why you are so confident Holyflare is mafia?

because he is trying to say (1) palmar made a post about sandroba, which he considers bussing.
(2) because of that, he votes for me, because i think palmar is town (for whatever reason)
(3) after catching up he is now suspicious of vivax, who shares the whole sentiment of him thinking palmar is bussing sandroba, which doesnt make any sense. and even if he changed his mind, then (2) should not apply because we all 4 cannot be mafia...
To be honest I am having a hard time figuring out what raynpelikoneet is getting at here. But the point is that he is suspicious of Holyflare and thinks he is mafia for two reasons. If I recall correctly, this didn't gain much momentum and I am interested to see how exactly raynpelikoneet reacted to that.
On December 11 2023 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna take a little break. My feet have been cold for like 3 days because of shitty socks, and i just want to go to sauna now that i can. Will be back in an hour.

If anyone would like to have an opinion on Holyflare, and especially on what i said on him, i would appreciate.
I do like the followup. It may not be what I'm used to from raynpelikoneet (no shouting) but it's still solid, I'll take it.

On December 11 2023 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
koshi, hf, dmb best lynch
Surprised he doesn't include sandroba, given the discussions he had and some suspicions shared, but I don't know if it's super alignment indicative other than possible TMI that sandroba is town but that's on pretty sketchy ground. This is post #412, at this point die_meatbaby's only post in the game is this:
On December 11 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
Hello nice do play again. Didn't post anything and there are already votes. I will catch up in a few hours as soon as my shift is finished
Which really sticks out to me. I'm very surprised that raynpelikoneet would include die_meatbaby in the best lynch list, alongside Holyflare, who he is strongly scumreading, and more than sandroba, who he is suspicious of. Why not include Chezinu, if it's a pure policy? This by itself isn't the most incriminating (though I do think it sticks out) but I'm very interested to see what he thinks about policy lynches/Chezinu lynch later. If he's one of the people that speaks out against policy/gamble lynches then this looks decently suspicious to me.
On December 11 2023 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 11 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
Hello nice do play again. Didn't post anything and there are already votes. I will catch up in a few hours as soon as my shift is finished

lynch
Unless raynpelikoneet actually thought something about this is suspicious?
On December 11 2023 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 11 2023 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
Hello nice do play again. Didn't post anything and there are already votes. I will catch up in a few hours as soon as my shift is finished

lynch

maybe actually when she flips mafia, lynch vivax, then lynch anyone who thought vivax is town other than me :D
And also suspicious of Vivax? It's possible there is a line of reasoning/association I am missing here, but this doesn't seem like a town thought process to me. Yet he never voted for Vivax.

Raynpelikoneet ended up switching from Holyflare to sandroba at end of day to save Vivax, seeing that Vivax had been active. This is understandable, as he'd been out for a while and was just coming back with 13 minutes until end of day.
On December 13 2023 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I ended up with list of:

Holyflare
Chezinu
sandroba
Trfel
Koshi

in no particular order atm. Everyone else i think is more or less town.
Here I'm very surprised that die_meatbaby ended up not on this list? Wasn't raynpelikoneet saying we should lynch her earlier? To be fair she'd only made one post at that time, by now she'd posted more, but this means there must have been something that raynpelikoneet liked about die_meatbaby's posts. This is post 1195, before this point what did die_meatbaby do? Answer: just a page and a half of filter. I'm going to assume that the (presumed) townread is for being around at EoD and trying to save Vivax. This is reasonable ish I suppose.
On December 13 2023 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why i think DMB is town, i see like 0% reason DMB does not lynch Vivax D1 here as mafia. Hell Vivax even scumreads her, i see no world where mafia!DMB does not lynch Vivax.
Here's the explanation. I actually think this makes sense, this is actually a very valid point. Props to raynpelikoneet.
On December 13 2023 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also want to lynch Chezinu because i think he implied someone is blue or red but didn't go further into it when i asked.
So Chezinu is more than just a policy...
On December 13 2023 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are some points where he breaks character. Like all up to his p2 of filter is fine very Palmar-esque, but then he makes a weird list post (not that it's bad). I find it out of character anyways and i don't know what it means. It's all like full Palmar mode into tunneling Vivax into "hey here are my reads and these people i am up to lynching".... Idk it just feels very out of place to me. Then it's all back to said "character".

It's like it's a different person writing that one post.
Says Palmar may not be town. I don't quite follow the reasoning but it seems understandable that raynpelikoneet could think this.
On December 13 2023 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is Palmar top 1 contributor in his list when Palmar just lead a mislynch and DP top 2 was probably on mafia sandroba?
Still confident in sandroba being mafia.
On December 13 2023 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i think i nailed HF to the wall regardless if i am right or wrong.

sandroba is mafia though
Koshi is prolly town tbh, i am just so sad.
trfel trfel... can trfel be mafia with sandroba?
Still confident in sandroba.
On December 15 2023 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are people, name Trfel and Koshi saying i have voted for Vivax or even scumread him?
On page 84 Trfel has just read my filter apparently, and is claiming i hvae voted for Vivax.

Confused by what raynpelikoneet was talking about in the post about lynching Vivax, maybe it was a joke that I missed? Because I generally thought you lynch people you are scumreading...
On December 15 2023 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are people, name Trfel and Koshi saying i have voted for Vivax or even scumread him?
On page 84 Trfel has just read my filter apparently, and is claiming i hvae voted for Vivax.
Ends up voting for Chezinu. No reason given.
On December 15 2023 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You talked ~20 pages about same stuff we did D1. Then Slam (and Trfel) orchestrated a switch to Chezinu, who everyone seems to think is mafia, but noone wants to vote for. Then i voted for Chezinu.
On December 15 2023 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i still think sandroba is mafia, but i also think Chezinu is mafia and noone seems to be willing to vote for him while thinking he is mafia and drawing some random conclusions about it.
This is interesting. Suddenly actually thinks Chezinu is mafia:
On December 15 2023 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 15 2023 02:29 Koshi wrote:
2 cases why tfrel is town. (Or town and mafia in HF case)

I think chezinu is mafia
I think sandroba is mafia
I think HF is mafia

there is 3 reasons
That wasn't what I got before, I thought he only had one thought on Chezinu other than seemingly POEing him? To be fair it's possible that that one thought was enough here.
On December 15 2023 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it.

Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game.

I heavily dislike this post and i want HF to put a vote on Chezinu no matter his alignment.
Chezinu is genuinely scummy, i tried to get into conversation with him about if he actually believes Trfel is blue or red. It didn't happen. He just kept repeating the same stuff.
Raynpelikoneet stands by this. I don't know if this logic for reading Chezinu makes much sense, but that doesn't matter, all that matters is if raynpelikoneet thinks it makes sense, and that I cannot say.
On December 15 2023 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all there is no way i am voting for Chezinu over sandroba D2 when i did if i was mafia. Not even in the scenario where i am mafia with Chezinu and sandroba. I was the key person to actually make Chezinu lynch even viable option at that time.

So i guess it's time to look through all the people who are telling i am mafia because i voted for Chezinu, or whatever i did during D2. There is mafia there and there is probably 2 mafia in there.

That means i don't care about Slam, Trfel, DMB.
How impactful raynpelikoneet was in getting Chezinu lynched has already been debated for a while, I don't care to argue about that. I am interested though how important raynpelikoneet thought his own vote on Chezinu was, like how passionate he was about it. Because I didn't get a ton of passion. His scumreads have felt fairly static this game to be honest.

Then he seems to think that Koshi could be mafia.
On December 16 2023 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Im thinking most likely answer atm is HF + Palmar.
Then surprised that Koshi or I aren't worth considering? Or sandroba? He said that the game is likely solved, but it seems like there are a lot of people he is still suspicious of here?
On December 16 2023 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 16 2023 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2023 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can work with you. I don't honestly expect anyone to have an opinion on what i say, nor do i care about anyone having an opinion what i say. I am probably lynched tomorrow no matter what, i don't care. I am just here to figure out who is mafia, for my own amusement. People believe my reads or they don't.

I can't work with you. I don't want to talk about this with you, especially with you. I have already said what i have to say, and i think you're mafia. If you have something else to talk about please do. My reads are not set in stone, and even if they were i am not gonna claim it until the end of night phase.


Wait which one is it? lol

Did you forget to delete one?

Oh i CAN work with you lol ^^
This was pretty funny.
On December 16 2023 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really don't know how Koshi and sandroba look really good even from your perspective.
But they aren't on his scum team and the game is solved? Confused.


It's tough for me to get any conclusions about raynpelikoneet. If he's town I think he's played a solid game. If he's mafia I think he's played a very strong and impressive game. There's a lot of little nitpicky things, but I don't really think those are alignment indicative. The most alignment indicative things I see are:

Static scumreads. This isn't a reason to be suspicious of people that I'm used to using, but I know people mention it a lot. Raynpelikoneet's scumreads do seem rather static here, compared to what I generally expect from him.

Lots of suspicion. He seems to have cleared very few people as being town throughout the game, and while he has top lynches he seems to want to get more than others, he keeps throwing suspicion at a large amount of people. And he seems to be very content with suspecting a large amount of people, extremely content even.

His vote onto Chezinu. I actually do think it's suspicious, how he voted for Chezinu despite seemingly being more invested in Holyflare and/or sandroba being mafia and talking more about them. I know he's said that he thinks he had the pivotal vote on Chezinu that enabled the lynch to happen. People have debated this but let's assume that this is true for a moment, with this assumption in place I'm surprised that he then didn't seem very invested in the actual wagon/lynch itself? Not long after voting he even said something to the effect of "I think sandroba is mafia and I also think Chezinu is mafia but I'll lynch Chezinu since sandroba has a higher chance of providing new information later" which is a valid perspective but he doesn't seem very passionate about lynching Chezinu over sandroba.

Not sure if I said that in a way that makes sense. I could see raynpelikoneet being town or mafia, which isn't very helpful, if he is mafia though I think it is due to the above reasons.

It's like he's suspicious of a lot of people but isn't actually passionate about any votes he makes or actually lynching anyone? That does seem off to me. Maybe slight leaning mafia, to be honest.


I actually like that post because I didn't think so much of rayn in this game and thats not good. Still a possibility there. But his vote on chez is not suspicious (in my option) He was suspicious about different people
On December 15 2023 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 15 2023 02:29 Koshi wrote:
2 cases why tfrel is town. (Or town and mafia in HF case)

I think chezinu is mafia
I think sandroba is mafia
I think HF is mafia

there is 3 reasons


When the voting train goes on chez why should he vote on HF when he thinks both are in the red fucker team. When I think of 3 persons in a scum team and one has good chance of getting lynched of course I go with that as Town.
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 16 2023 19:13 GMT
#2438
I will Filter rayn because he is one of the least interesting players atm for me and I shouldn't just accept his beeing in the thread sometimes. When he is Mafia he playes good as well.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 07:07 GMT
#2558
On December 17 2023 10:02 Palmar wrote:
Just one interesting thing. DMB barely talks about HF at all in her filter, like almost nothing.

No idea if it's relevant information.


If you would read the the thread in the night you would no the mistake I made and why I didn't talk of Hf
QUOTE]On December 15 2023 12:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 15 2023 12:39 sandroba wrote:
DP was the only reasonable townie that was not lynch bait.


I never played mafia always green/blue but i would kill somebody who either seems blue or getting the right direction on scum. There is still one player looking obviosly blue here for me since D1 and it was not Dp. DP had good Townreads but not good anoth for a nk in my opinon[/QUOTE]
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 07:18 GMT
#2559
On December 17 2023 11:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2023 11:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 17 2023 11:32 Trfel wrote:
On December 17 2023 11:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you ever make a read that is not "i think mafia but also town"?
Die_meatbaby is just mafia?

Why?
I don't think others agree about this but it seemed like she voted her lesser scumreads Day 1 and Day 2 and was very content with a thread sentiment lynch while I would have expected her to prefer someone else given her filter. Mostly this involved Palmar.

Day 1, she voted for Vivax despite saying very little about Vivax and focusing on Palmar and a few other things. It feels like she didn't really believe Vivax was mafia but just went along with it.

Day 2, most incriminating imo, she voted for Chezinu despite focusing on Palmar all day. Her read progressions/view of the game doesn't line up with being content to lynch Chezinu, to me anyway. It feels like a bus.


First the beeing the only vote on Palmar for on D1 or D2 would just be a useless vote.
Second I was thinking of V as Mafia, but as soon as he was under pressure, I could see the truth. I was first with Dp together to try to chance the lynch. Why should I vote at that point for Palmar when we have to save a obvious Town for lynch.
Second I was suspicious of Chez as well so why should I waste my vote as a only vote on Palmar, if I was suspicious of him anyway not just so sure that he was scum as I was/are thinking of Palmar
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 07:23 GMT
#2560
On December 17 2023 16:07 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2023 10:02 Palmar wrote:
Just one interesting thing. DMB barely talks about HF at all in her filter, like almost nothing.

No idea if it's relevant information.


If you would read the the thread in the night you would no the mistake I made and why I didn't talk of Hf
QUOTE]On December 15 2023 12:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On December 15 2023 12:39 sandroba wrote:
DP was the only reasonable townie that was not lynch bait.

I never played mafia always green/blue but i would kill somebody who either seems blue or getting the right direction on scum. There is still one player looking obviosly blue here for me since D1 and it was not Dp. DP had good Townreads but not good anoth for a nk in my opinon


I fucked the quote up before...
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 13:42 GMT
#2590
On December 17 2023 22:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 17 2023 21:24 Holyflare wrote:
Let's just play around with your world view for a bit. If I am town and you think Palmar is town, who is mafia?

Palmar is town. I’ve 180d on rayn again and I think he’s town. I think sandroba is town.

Mafia just sits in the rest. Slam probably unlynchable today if it’s him.

So between Trfel and DMB. That’s what I’m going to need to try to magic the time up to figure out.

what makes me mafia??
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 13:49 GMT
#2593
On December 17 2023 22:43 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 17 2023 22:42 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 17 2023 22:30 marvellosity wrote:
On December 17 2023 21:24 Holyflare wrote:
Let's just play around with your world view for a bit. If I am town and you think Palmar is town, who is mafia?

Palmar is town. I’ve 180d on rayn again and I think he’s town. I think sandroba is town.

Mafia just sits in the rest. Slam probably unlynchable today if it’s him.

So between Trfel and DMB. That’s what I’m going to need to try to magic the time up to figure out.

what makes me mafia??

The problem is more that I am eliminating people who I think are townies and you’re not reaching that threshold.


Thank you for this detailed answer as to why I am not Town.
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 13:55 GMT
#2596
On December 17 2023 22:46 marvellosity wrote:
Like I’m certain palmar is town, DMB.

So your crusade on him doesn’t fill me with joy.


Okey i am mafia because i don´t just jump on an wagon that somebody constructed. I have my own opinion on who is scum and i am still sure it´s Palmar. So thats every good reason from you. Sorry that I just not go with your scum thoughts and rather follow my own thoughts. (but i like the HF scum idea(with Palmar))
Sorry next game I will just follow somebody´s scum thoughts like mafia does.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 13:58 GMT
#2597
On December 17 2023 22:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2023 22:49 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 17 2023 22:43 marvellosity wrote:
On December 17 2023 22:42 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 17 2023 22:30 marvellosity wrote:
On December 17 2023 21:24 Holyflare wrote:
Let's just play around with your world view for a bit. If I am town and you think Palmar is town, who is mafia?

Palmar is town. I’ve 180d on rayn again and I think he’s town. I think sandroba is town.

Mafia just sits in the rest. Slam probably unlynchable today if it’s him.

So between Trfel and DMB. That’s what I’m going to need to try to magic the time up to figure out.

what makes me mafia??

The problem is more that I am eliminating people who I think are townies and you’re not reaching that threshold.


Thank you for this detailed answer as to why I am not Town.

Am I trying to lynch you? No I’m not.

So stop whining and understand what I am talking about instead of being, or acting, butthurt.

I am not whining I just wanted to know the reason
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 14:09 GMT
#2602
On December 17 2023 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 17 2023 22:55 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 17 2023 22:46 marvellosity wrote:
Like I’m certain palmar is town, DMB.

So your crusade on him doesn’t fill me with joy.


Okey i am mafia because i don´t just jump on an wagon that somebody constructed. I have my own opinion on who is scum and i am still sure it´s Palmar. So thats every good reason from you. Sorry that I just not go with your scum thoughts and rather follow my own thoughts. (but i like the HF scum idea(with Palmar))
Sorry next game I will just follow somebody´s scum thoughts like mafia does.

You know, one of the key skills of a townplayer is following another townplayer when they are right.

It only takes 1 townie to find a mafia. But it takes a whole bunch of townies to actually lynch the mafia.


and i was on the vivax lynch until you could see the emtions coming when he was under pressure and tried to chance that lynch with dp together. Palmar is since D1 my nr.1 scumread and i will not get that from my head out. But still I was goeing with the chez lynch
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 14:40 GMT
#2619
On December 17 2023 23:35 marvellosity wrote:
Tbh talk about what you like HF - I will read anything with an open mind.

Right this second I want DMB to not afk when I am trying to force her into something.

i am not afk i am diving into hf filter a and trying to get a reasonable scum team without Palmar
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 15:08 GMT
#2624
On December 17 2023 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 17 2023 23:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 17 2023 23:35 marvellosity wrote:
Tbh talk about what you like HF - I will read anything with an open mind.

Right this second I want DMB to not afk when I am trying to force her into something.

i am not afk i am diving into hf filter a and trying to get a reasonable scum team without Palmar

First - convince me of your palmar read please.

If you think he is mafia since d1 you should be able to talk about those reasons easily and freely, no?


On December 10 2023 21:14 Palmar wrote:
Ignoring marv for the timelesss strategy of just murdering him if he doesn’t deliver me mafia.

Fist why do you have to find mafia and if not you are mafia. What kind of statement is that? Feels like he knows you Town and if you are Town we all know you are strong Town same as DP. Thats a reason why DP is nk1

On December 11 2023 02:15 Palmar wrote:
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On December 11 2023 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 02:04 Palmar wrote:
On December 11 2023 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 11 2023 01:27 Vivax wrote:
Do you have a take on Sandros posts?

My take is that he is supposedly saying he finds something alignment indicative in Slam's posting, doesn't tell what that is or which way in his opinion it points towards, but somehow Trfel is supposed to(?) do that.

He did say exactly what he found alignment indicative.

On December 10 2023 12:49 sandroba wrote:
So far we have Alakaslam who I feel is posting within what I expected, not leaning one way or the other based on his initial posts. I like the poking about smiles being sus, but at the same time, it's phrased as a question so there is a bit of avoidance in there as well. Again, not very telling.


I actually hard agree with liking that by Sandroba, which is why it's so disappointing he doesn't come out with a favorable opinion.

He literally ended the sentence with "again, not very telling".

yeah that's kinda my point

he liked something, but then just talked himself into not committing to the like.

I do like that post from slam and I do think it makes him 100% confirmed town.



How can you be sure that somebody is 100% town before there was even a lynch. Just trying to be save with the strong Townplayers. Because you and Slam are strong Town players.

On December 11 2023 10:24 Palmar wrote:
Vivax’s filter is terrible lol

Just getting Town suspicious about Vivax. He waited with the bigger post, because first he wanted to see how Town is about the Vivax scum thought.

On December 11 2023 10:33 Palmar wrote:
I’m serious about this. If you can get through Vivax’ filter thinking he’s town I have no hope for you.

the ego princess is screaming: Come on Town jump on my train or you may be looking scum....


On December 12 2023 00:23 Palmar wrote:
Palmar's guide to lynching Vivax


Why we should lynch Vivax

The case has been made pretty well by more people than me. The gist of it is that his early filter simply doesn't look like he's actually trying to solve the game. He's just floating along and asking boring questions. a particularly egregious one is this one:

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On December 11 2023 04:29 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2023 03:37 Holyflare wrote:

Vivax, Koshi, chez, sandro, meatbaby and palmar is a good list of LHF to get through for the time being. Maybe throw in a rayn in there but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Palmar and rayn probably the weakest in being in this list so will see what they get up to while I work throw the others.


Why this phrasing.


Like... who cares dude? How is this a thing?

Then there's all the commentary on the thread "Palmar seems sure of himself" (no shit?), "rayn doesn't look eager for conclusions." Some random questions to random people with no appearance of any kind of critical thread he's chasing.

I'm not gonna make a massive case because the essence is pretty much this:

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On December 11 2023 10:30 Palmar wrote:
Jesus it’s so bad. Pointless commentary, terrible questions. Lots of nothing and very boring to boot. I didn’t laugh once.

We found our first mafia boys. Get in while it’s still cool


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On December 11 2023 04:33 Koshi wrote:
Vivax try to be slightly more fun. I would love you to not be mafia but you are painful to read.


Like I honestly can't think of a more deserving day 1 lynch. Also for people who think "blue hunting" is a thing:

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On December 11 2023 10:39 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 11 2023 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
DMB thoughts on Vivax?

Usually you are the first one to want to kill him with fire as soon as he looks at you a bit funny.


The problem is he looks so fucking scummy right now but i am not sure if i miss a blue point here. Defently not so green, but not worth a vote (for now)


Which it obviously isn't and thinking this way is a very bad way of playing the game, Vivax already claimed VT so who cares.

I have some reasons not to lynch all the other candidates (well maybe not sandroba, but whatever). Marv and HF will reveal themselves to be mafia if they are, and Chez would just be a default lynch if we had no options.

Vivax is objectively the best lynch because I can't think of a single reason to keep him alive...


How we should lynch Vivax

If you're town your vote should be on Vivax and because of the weird deadline we should be incredibly resistant to shenanigans. If we last minute derail the lynch the chances are going down the drain we hit mafia AND it will reduce the information we have from the voting, even if I'm wrong (I'm not).

The reason we lose information is that bunch of people will be sleeping at the deadline and thus cannot commit one way or another in any last minute vote train.

If you don't agree with killing Vivax you need to present your findings as soon as possible, there really isn't that much left in the day.

We don't need Rambo players in this town going after their own lynch. You're only allowed to be town and not vote Vivax if you can make the case that he isn't mafia. Just making a case one someone else (like DP on Marv) isn't enough. This isn't about bragging rights, it's about maintaining control.

Also the first person who talks about the wagon being too easy should be shot.

What Vivax's death means

This is the hard part. If he flips mafia we get a bunch of good information. If he is mafia his friends have long since thrown him under the bus. Don't expect to find mafia in the resistance to the Vivax mafia lynch.

If he flips town it's more likely to find mafia in the resistance, but probably among the less vocal resistance. People who seem unsure or claim to be happy to lynch Vivax but maybe want to lynch someone else? Those are the people you need to focus on.

People who blindly sheep the case or do it because they genuinely believe in it are more likely to be town, regardless of alignment. Remember of course to only use the information up to this post, as I've just told the mafia how to appear town :D

Honestly even if Vivax flips town I don't think I need to reconsider my list of people all that much. There's still people who are following the case in a townie way and scummy way.


Why is he waiting this long to explain why we should lynch vivax? Easy he wanted to see how Town thinks of this scum read on vivax without explanation. In between this time a view people already agreed on that vivax scum read and telling why that would make sense. He just connected the reasons why everbody thought vivax is mafia and made that bigger post up there.
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Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 15:16 GMT
#2625
you guys can tell me I am paranoid about palmar beeing mafia but that it just an insane mafia play right there
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Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 15:35 GMT
#2629
On December 18 2023 00:25 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 18 2023 00:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
you guys can tell me I am paranoid about palmar beeing mafia but that it just an insane mafia play right there


Why are you pretending like nobody in this game reads palmar as mafia and you're the only one fighting an uphill battle? Why have you never voted palmar?
Who is mafia with palmar?


There a people NOW who are thinking of him as scum, but not after the first lynch. I was alone with my thoughts there.
I never votet on Palmar because it would just be a useless vote.
First vote i need to safe vivax. (altough we missed one vote to safe him)
Second 10 votes on chez... 1 vote on Palmar will chance the lynch... yeah..

I most likley think it would be Trfel or you!
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Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 15:39 GMT
#2630
On December 18 2023 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
Or - as I explained very succinctly before - he decided to filter Vivax, saw it was terrible, called him mafia, then made a bigger post later to try to secure his scumread lynch.

Why is your version of events the more likely one here, DMB?


when you read his old scum games you can see it would not be the first time that he doeing stuff like that.
Liar Game Mini Mafia he did the same thing. Calling a lynch on VE and then getting Townreads and nobody suspect him anymore exepet after a few misslynch then Town rethinking all their reads and he finally got lynched D6
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Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 15:40 GMT
#2631
Vote: Palmar
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Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 16:42 GMT
#2640
On December 18 2023 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 18 2023 00:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vote: Palmar

If you’re town this is a losing vote


Okey then who should get voted?? who is your scumteam thought?
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Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 16:43 GMT
#2641
On December 18 2023 01:32 Palmar wrote:
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On December 18 2023 00:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
you guys can tell me I am paranoid about palmar beeing mafia but that it just an insane mafia play right there

I need you to pull head out of ass here if you’re town. If my game is so insane why did you find out so easily and on such trivial things? You keep quoting an 11 year old game with completely different mechanics.

I know you’re not going to listen to me but maybe listen to the people who actually have an understanding of how I play this game?



Actually that's a good point I didn't read a single game when you were Town... But now I will
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Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 18:17 GMT
#2690
On December 18 2023 02:59 Palmar wrote:
Sandroba and HF are another story. Even if they’re town I probably pissed Sandroba off enough by trolling him in the mason QT so he’s tunneled in. HF thinks highly enough of himself to ignore marv.

But it’s still really annoying that 3 strong players who know marv and I read each other well enough to pretty much make playing mafia against each other a complete pain in the ass, just ignore that knowledge.

Dmb has an excuse, a classic pebkac.

-.-
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Colombia1344 Posts
December 17 2023 19:12 GMT
#2714
On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:
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On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote:
I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.

I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar.

I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF


rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help.
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