Winter Warfare Mafia - Page 28

On December 21 2023 00:58 sandroba wrote:
Why can't Trfel be bussing DMB rayn? Why are you so stuck in never considering DMB for mafia, while everyone else is fair game?

On December 21 2023 01:02 sandroba wrote:
You are like defending her as newbie town while not even considering what she would do as scum this game. All her game makes a lot more sense as scum than town. The HF being possible scum and 100% confirmed blue point at the same time which I pointed out to her while she was posting here, she had no response to, she vanished from the thread for hours, came back and still not response addressing that.

On December 21 2023 01:14 sandroba wrote:
On the Vivax stuff: Do you think if DMB is mafia she never feels pressure to do that? Vivax is likely on the same place as her fighting for his life, knows she is only and she is not saying anything. If she is mafia don't you think she would admit Vivax feels townie, fearing Vivax would just call her out as scum?
In fact Vivax did right before DMB unvoted her:


2nd point about HF: If her mind is racing to HFmight be scum, it's an act when she says: "Lynch me instead of HF, he is blue, I thought so since N2". It's scummy to misrepresent your feelings in order to appear townie or clueless

On December 21 2023 01:20 sandroba wrote:
Well, you are being super biased if you can't even consider it and are dead set on this explanation for it I can't even understand.

On December 21 2023 01:23 sandroba wrote:

I think you meant the other way around. We can't know for sure, but you are hinging so much of your town read on something that I think could be done as either alignment.

On December 21 2023 01:26 sandroba wrote:

I think Trfel's case spells it out pretty clearly why. The fact that you read the same case as me and don't even go: "Huh, there might be something there" makes absolutely no sense to me. Even if you think Trfel is scum, he would have bussed Chez d2 in that world, why could he not be doing that here

On December 21 2023 01:36 sandroba wrote:
I did address it in a single phrase. There is no team possible that doesn't involve dmb so you can argue your Trfel case after we lynch mafia dmb

On December 21 2023 01:39 sandroba wrote:

What hypothetical point you can make about a someone which you can't say: it is possible to do that all as town ?

On December 21 2023 01:39 sandroba wrote:

What hypothetical point you can make about a someone which you can't say: it is possible to do that all as town ?

On December 21 2023 01:56 sandroba wrote:

It's not me and I'm willing to lose to Palmar. If turns out it's Palmar I can always just yell at marv.

On December 20 2023 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Trfel is just mafia here.

- Trfel has been very wishy-washy on his reads during the whole game. I know town!Trfel is wishy-wasy, i just think he is overplaying it here. Basically every read until last night ends up being "could be or is not mafia" category. Basically Trfel has called everyone mafia except for Palmar. Only after marv starts getting suspicious of him and his town read on Palmar he starts getting these hard stances on people. I understand the less people we have the less room there is also for error, but it just doesn't seem natural at all to me.

- Trfel calls DMB mafia for scumreading Palmar, but not doing anything with the read. Now this makes sense if the mafia team is exactly DMB and Palmar, but Trfel doesn't think this is the case because he townreads and has townread Palmar all game (except for one point where he thinks Palmar + marv could be mafia). This sort of behavior should only be suspicious for DMB if Palmar is mafia in his mind, because otherwise it doesn't make any sense to act like that, Palmar has been suspected by everyone pretty much during the whole game.

- I still don't know understand this:

Basically everything Trfel writes, even his case on DMB, should be in towards Palmar being mafia, yet Palmar is his strongest town read. So i am going to guess he thinks i am mafia or Slam is mafia. But he already said he doesn't think i am mafia. Does Slam being mafia make sense to anyone else? Based on Trfel's reads, how is he going to put up a mafia team of two people here? At least he hasn't contributed towards that in any sense, just that DMB is mafia.

- If Trfel really believes DMB is mafia, he didn't do anything to change the lynch on D3 to DMB. After i voted, he did absolutely nothing to contribute towards his preferred lynch DMB, just voted for HF and "gave up" for the day for whatever reason. Now the only reason i can of here, is that he wants to keep DMB as a lynch bait. The case he has presented against DMB was all there during D3, why didn't he act on it during D3?

- Minor point but still a point, Trfel has (as Koshi did) misrepresented my actions during D1. We all know, or should know Koshi didn't read the thread properly, because he said so, and agreed to that when i was talking with him around the Chezinu lynch. Now Trfel has been reading the thread, at least he is trying to show such M.O. My interpretation is, that he knew Koshi is town, and took Koshi's statement of me having voted for Vivax D1 (when i never really did -- i called Vivax town) at face value without checking it even when i clearly expressed that earlier already, that i never did such thing!!.

##vote Trfel

On December 21 2023 02:07 sandroba wrote:
I'll say the same to you. As town you don't know who scum is so in your mind you have to accept that if you are totally wrong, you will just lose.
If you follow your plan we will lose to scum dmb, and you seem to be okay with that.

All the people I'm saying I'm okay losing to I think are town and if I'm just wrong about that, they did a great job and props to them for winning the game