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DMB implicates vivax and TTT on a surface level.
Could also implicate myself Marv and Perfection (why are they alive? reasons)
that could also be what mafia think so WIFOM.
Probably a safe shot around medic protection and a confirmed townie in most peoples eyes.
actually a clever shot so someone who knows what they are doing I think.
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On September 01 2023 11:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 11:07 DarthPunk wrote: DMB implicates vivax and TTT on a surface level.
Could also implicate myself Marv and Perfection (why are they alive? reasons)
that could also be what mafia think so WIFOM.
Probably a safe shot around medic protection and a confirmed townie in most peoples eyes.
actually a clever shot so someone who knows what they are doing I think.
No it's a very dumb shot. You would have to be stupid to shoot dmb as mafia here completely brain dead. Why?
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On September 01 2023 11:16 JacobStrangelove wrote: I guess koshi is a safeish bet as you and DP both think scum.
Want to see what Marv thinks.
Marv said likely scum
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On September 01 2023 11:18 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 11:17 DarthPunk wrote:On September 01 2023 11:16 JacobStrangelove wrote: I guess koshi is a safeish bet as you and DP both think scum.
Want to see what Marv thinks. Marv said likely scum Sounds like a good bet then. Does ttt think scum? I don’t really know who he thinks is mafia.
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On September 01 2023 11:17 JacobStrangelove wrote: And vivax as well tbh after die baby dying I think he's very town. Why does die baby dying implicate him in your opinion dp.
Also do you still think ttt is town?
Cause they live together and it would be hard to pretend at home.
I still think ttt is town for now.
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On August 29 2023 23:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:18 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote: JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance. What do you plan on doing about it? Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT. What you are saying is that you townread TTT more than you townread yourself? Good stuff. No I just wanting an explanation and iamp brought up that as a very good point actually. I was joking. Just weird that you see yourself as a more logical lynch than somebody else but TTT is your biggest (?) townread so I guess it somewhat checks out.
Soft as fuck.
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On September 01 2023 11:36 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 11:32 DarthPunk wrote:On September 01 2023 11:18 JacobStrangelove wrote:On September 01 2023 11:17 DarthPunk wrote:On September 01 2023 11:16 JacobStrangelove wrote: I guess koshi is a safeish bet as you and DP both think scum.
Want to see what Marv thinks. Marv said likely scum Sounds like a good bet then. Does ttt think scum? I don’t really know who he thinks is mafia. thats because besides whining the only contribution has been to bitch about me and say meat was green which is now gone.
Yeah I know
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On September 01 2023 16:10 Koshi wrote: Last team iamp/DP
Gl hf
##Vote Koshi
Any thoughts on this Marv? (I see you voted him, but still)
Usually quite weak to this shit.
But it looks like scum to me this time
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On September 01 2023 16:12 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 15:02 TankTopTiger wrote:e between games.
Secondly and building off that, Jacob is never wrong. Never wrong wrong anyway. Jacob always always always hedges every bet to the extent he's got every base covered. When you add up all of the things he says they're supposed to add up to nothing by design. He's never very right but he's never wrong. He's so open-minded one must assume ample gyri or his brain would slip out his ear. For him to be judgemental about the DMB NK doesn't make sense because Jacob is just too chill for that.
Jacob tell me you're not too chill for that?
But this sort of thing does make sense to me for a jacob who just took a shot at DMB being blue, thinking it'll look stupid if he's wrong and then finding that to be the case. I don't really see why else he would end up talking about it because he's too nice by default to just randomly start sledging. At his core Jacob desparately wants everyone to get along. It's not like him to shit on DMB and the scum team simultaneously unless he feels pressured toward that sort of behaviour. Yeah normally. I just got vibes that DP was like hmm smart kill scum and if he was scum that's exactly the kinda egotistical behaviour I would expect him to think he could get away with so was pushing on the ego button to see if he would bite at all if it was him. Gonna re read it all later. Also legit thought it was a bit of a strange kill because in theory for me DMB was a big question mark and I feel like it kinda solves the game or it should. (at least after this day happens) I've been a bit burnt out so I haven't gone back to see how it exactly does but I get the vibe if I look for a bit it'll all make sense. At the very least after the next lynch it will. Also I'm posting way to fast and open for my mafia play. Don't get me wrong I shit up the thread and troll and do weird things as mafia but they're all pre checked in a document for scum tells and I've just been spam posting thoughts which I don't think I do as mafia.
I like the. Dmb nk. analysis In a way. It does kind of solve the game unless we are very very wrong.
But mafia tend to think townies look better than they are kind of why it’s hard for them to make cases and develop scum reads so they probs thought dmb was obv town.
Or it’s TTT + koshi and they needed ttt to get to endgame.
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On September 01 2023 17:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 16:42 DarthPunk wrote:On September 01 2023 16:10 Koshi wrote: Last team iamp/DP
Gl hf
##Vote Koshi Any thoughts on this Marv? (I see you voted him, but still) Usually quite weak to this shit. But it looks like scum to me this time What are you talking about DP Team contains the 99% confirmed town vig? Course Koshi doesn’t think that. Other way of looking at it - if Koshi is town, thinks you are mafia, but thinks I am town - obviously he tries to persuade me to his cause
Ok thanks. Made me feel better.
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I wonder if the scum team is actually koshi-ls-math and their morale is at zero cause they just got giga-stomped
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On September 01 2023 17:27 TankTopTiger wrote: Re: Koshi
I'm more confident of my read on JSL and would prefer them to be lynched first, but Koshi would be next. I just feel like JSL doesn't require filtering, whereas I haven't really followed the case on Koshi and am mostly going off of the shift in tone from early to later (he was annoyingly chipper early on, but that has well and truly been stomped out of him), the desperate tone of his case on DP, along with the lack of substance I felt from said case given he pushed it out in five parts. It felt like he wanted to be able to say he'd written a five-part case, but the case didn't warrant that magnitude and by the end I was kind of confused why he wrote it in the first place.
So I want JSL over Koshi, I'm a lot more involved with it, but so long as they both go down I don't mind.
Well koshi self voted at this point so probably a better lynch at this point.
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On September 01 2023 17:27 TankTopTiger wrote: Re: Koshi
I'm more confident of my read on JSL and would prefer them to be lynched first, but Koshi would be next. I just feel like JSL doesn't require filtering, whereas I haven't really followed the case on Koshi and am mostly going off of the shift in tone from early to later (he was annoyingly chipper early on, but that has well and truly been stomped out of him), the desperate tone of his case on DP, along with the lack of substance I felt from said case given he pushed it out in five parts. It felt like he wanted to be able to say he'd written a five-part case, but the case didn't warrant that magnitude and by the end I was kind of confused why he wrote it in the first place.
So I want JSL over Koshi, I'm a lot more involved with it, but so long as they both go down I don't mind.
Your summary of the case by koshi and change is basically the reason he is mafia.
Along with the fact that usually it’s obvious he is town.
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On September 01 2023 17:33 TankTopTiger wrote: I'm okay with Koshi lynch, I don't know them so I don't know how to interpret that action and trust you guys more.
From my limited perspective, he came in with a gimmick of wanting to hurrycurry to give himself more meta range. That doesn't work if he does it as red. But if you guys agree with each other it's more than that I'm down.
He kind of walked it back here and there though I thought.
I also think, if you are town. the ‘weird’ energy you are detecting from me could be a product of the level of energy you have yourself and the way you are currently feeling about the game.
But I also want you to answer Marv so won’t delve deeper than that at this point.
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On September 01 2023 17:35 TankTopTiger wrote: What do you think about my points on JSL?
It's very weird right?
Yeah I also have him as mafia.
Although I think he is hard to read and we could both be wrong.
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The reason I think he is mafia is due to the fact that he really seemed to give a shit about the lynch out of nowhere eod2 and we were lynching mafia who he in fact voted.
For me I always do that shit (especially when I’m ok with both lynches)
I’m not sure what he was doing though
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On September 01 2023 18:37 marvellosity wrote:Unfortunate byproduct of ageing :/
I have it too (in case it wasn't already obvious)
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On September 01 2023 18:26 mathenalin wrote: Ive got no time to read let alone analyse.
I'll probably check votes around end of day and then vote whatever takes my fancy.
Yeah, does this level of investment checkout with the supposed level of investment early game and in the aborted version??
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On September 01 2023 18:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 18:11 TankTopTiger wrote: Oh so it's the DP thing. I guess you're the one I've entrusted with him so I'll give you a splurge.
It's a lot of personal stuff that isn't really verifiable and tbh I'd have to go back and reread the initial incident to give exact details anyway. The main thing when he was drilling me was the complete lack of hesitation. In Endurance II I was town and he wanted to lynch me but was tearing himself apart over it so bad I felt like scum. I didn't really have any reads beyond CC iirc (I don't remember the exact point), and he felt that it was unlike me not to have contributed much (same tune as this game). But he was so anxious about being the person that led a mislynch he couldn't do it. He also did similar things to other players, not just me. He was a mess, and I leaned into it as town to survive, much like I eventually did this game. But this game, it was more forced because I put him in an awkward position when I flipped because then all the personal shit I said, the references to personal conversations etc., they came from a confirmed town. So to me, him eventually giving me some charity was something I had to twist his arm to do if he wanted to not be shot to shit after I went down.
One example of a conversation he conveniently forgot in order to suspect me, was one where I had corrected his misremembering of Endurance II. He thought that I'd been pretty solid the whole way through, but in fact, I was almost dying the entire time and only survived one lynch because someone (I believe Slam) forgot to vote. DP acknowledged he'd misremembered it, but then completely erased this from his memory in order to bludgeon me with "you should have contributed by now". So both DMB and DP feel I should do better because of E1, and sort of ignored E2, but DP should know better because I know I've already told him.
More recently, when he described how I set myself parameters, this felt placatory, like I was being Forer'd. I do happen to agree somewhat with the assessment overall, but it wasn't specific enough and didn't really feel like it was an alignment indicative read. He said as scum I'd sacrifice win percent in order to win the way I want. This is true, but I do that as town too. Hell rn I'm not filter diving and I'm flaming idiots. These parametres arose as town organically as a way to keep myself posting. But I go into every game with some idea of how I want to play before I read my role.
So he felt too eager to lynch me early, and too eager to forgive me later. I expect myself to be pretty biased given I was attacked by someone I feel should have every reason not to (team straya has done real well for ourselves these last two games by finding a way to verify and trust each other), so take it with a pinch of salt. I don't trust myself to be objective about it so I'm comparmentalising to a pathological degree. Yeah, okay. Read this a couple times and it doesn’t feel forced.
Yep, he is town. 
It's getting tough for mafia at this rate.
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