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On May 30 2023 04:10 marvellosity wrote:
I already used the post that I quoted there in my post. Which youd realise if you read my post and digested its contents and thought about it.
Instead both LS and DP conspicuously don’t talk about the content at all. Fascinating!
I did read it I had a different reason why I was townreading her which was her man of her vote towards VE and VE keep townreading.
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at least in reads to dmb. I know my own alignment so ya I just ignored that part of your post.
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On May 30 2023 04:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2023 04:35 DarthPunk wrote:On May 30 2023 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:On May 30 2023 04:20 LightningStrike wrote:On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.
If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud. This appeal to emotion is just to strong for me. If he is mafia he wouldn't of appealed to me this hard over others. ## Vote: DarthPunk I can't vote with my strongest SR ##Vote swapWe should be lynching that though, IMO You are amazing!!!! They are both confirmed mafia to me at this point, so either lynch is good, its just going to be really hard to lynch marv later, cause we only need one townie not on that wagon and we lose, and, as you saw, marv is really convincing. Really convincing because it’s genuine. That’s why you think it’s really convincing  Town, are you seeing all this? Slam, LS is most likely just bussing to get a reaction from you. If you don’t see that then not a lot I can do. If DP and LS are mafia together I backed them into a corner and they need to make a plan, which probably isn’t LS hard defending DP.
Well I'm not mafia so I am not bussing?
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On May 30 2023 12:04 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LightningStrike
Waaay too early in the game, you gave Marv a town read for not folding to DP's D1 pressure. You are aware of Marv's "fold as scum" meta.
But right now, Marv has folded, and your vote is on DP.
Explain.
He would of folded Day 1 as mafia hell he did fold as Town Day 2 under a lot pressure in this game:
tl.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia?user=marvellosity
Plus he was using Appeal to Emotion towards me today which I don't ever recall him doing as mafia.
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TTT let me know if you read the game that i just linked regarding Marv.
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On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote:
You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
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On May 30 2023 13:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay but he's not try-harding. He didn't get lynched D1 because he had Koshi and Rayn handing grapes up to him as he presided over the peasants from within his palanquin. Why would he ever have folded in your mind if the two strongest, most townest players were saying "Marv is vetted" and "MZ's case on Marv is REALLY bad", both things that these skilled confirmed town players later took back.
Why would he fold under non-existent pressure, and more importantly, why would you think he would?
Marv really doesn't like being pressured just like me hence why he falls over as mafia (he was pressured by Darth) hell in the town game i linked he was pressured enough for him to just give up as town despite having a solid Day 1 with how limited his time was. But overall he did tryhard a bit (at least from way of thinking of tryhard where he did post questions and giving his opinions out there for others and engaging with others)
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On May 30 2023 13:30 TankTopTiger wrote:But here's the clincher LS, you already admitted this is not your read. Not once but twice since day 1 you have said you were willing to consider Marv as scum. Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical? If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him. Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:44 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives. The problem is, I read slam and Chez both as town, I know I am town, so in a world in which you are town, I want to kind of see if I can agree with any of your thought processes or reads, and see if we can read the game in a way that makes sense together. I making this assumption in which you also do flip town along with Chez and Slam just for this: Team would be Marv and TTT by PoE mostly because I think Rayn is town because he didn't trappy play Day 1 like he did in XXX along with how he been posting and playing seems like normal town Rayn. dmb I don't see how she could ever be mafia with VE given what I posted about it earlier. I know my own alignment as town and by PoE it would be them in that case. If your read was "if Marv folds D1 scum, else: town". Why would you twice say you would be willing to consider Marv as mafia after D1. Furthermore, why would you only say this up until the point he folds, then refuse to vote for him?
Ok the first one Darth had asked me for a team if Chez and Slam are town (Because I had Slam and Chez null at the time.) and only had Marv because if you looked at what I posted earlier on my reads and stuff i had posted later: dmb being town because of her stuff with VE and VE with her I couldn't imagine as a scenrio where mafia dmb would do that stuff with him I had you as town along with Rayn and so I had in PoE and gotten Marv and Darth. The second one i took into consideration if Darth was town Marv would of had to been Mafia with you for the same reasons for the most part being it was PoE for you being mafia. Today: He is using appeal to emotion towards me trying to have me lynch Darth with him to save him which convinced me to vote Darth because no one ever asks me to vote for someone using Appeal to Emotion and he been much nicer to me than Darth.
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Anyways off to bed it's getting late.
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Just woke up after my body decided to wake myself very early -.-
On May 30 2023 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:In really small Marv literally does appeal to emotion as mafia. So idk wtf you are talking about
I just checked this out and yep he did and even had a lot of votes on him at the time (6 Total) ugh the feels idk what to think anymore about his appeal to emotion towards me :|
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On May 31 2023 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
I just clicked on my filter in that game and I basically didn't play at all, there's no comparison. I probably made the appeal to emotion because I literally wasn't playing the game. No-one can argue I haven't played this one...
I can at least confirm this from reading your filter there.
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Will make this easier for town since I do townread Marv and he is a better player than me.
##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike
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This was a fun game I wish things played out a bit better for us as mafia but overall it was a very close game!
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