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On August 27 2022 17:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: That PM was effective, good thing I check TL about once a week /in EBWOP (that's the acronym right?) I miss y'all a lot and am really looking forward to this. | ||
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On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel) Undecided: deconduo Alakaslam CopCake Tubesock Meapak_Ziphh raynpelikoneet Rels Mattchew Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi Chezinu: Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. | ||
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On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb  For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right? Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted. | ||
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On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote: No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up. Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit. On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote: But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie. To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous. I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above. | ||
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On August 30 2022 11:27 Tubesock wrote: I like his joke list post better than Jock's quote every post try-hardness. They both move the thread a little forward at least. Putting HF as top town on one self claim post is pretty hilarious. Then essentially doing the opposite for Vivax bussing absent Koshi is pretty funny too. And of course the Chezinu read is spot on too. Now we can wait and see who nitpicks him for it and why. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this for now, considering you've also got issues with jock's posting as well I'm definitely interested in hearing more of what you've got to say. Any thoughts so far on copcake? Personally not loving what I'm seeing there. | ||
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I still don't like copcake, I'll get on my computer and breakdown why. | ||
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Firstly, copcake fluff + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote: Hi Rels, long time no see :D On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote: Hi Jock, long time no see. On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote: Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist. On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote: If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia. On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote: Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent. On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote: ![[image loading]](https://media.baamboozle.com/uploads/images/145581/1658386256_1767408_gif-url.gif) I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him: On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote: Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list" On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote: You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game. On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote: I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself. I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation. You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town. I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers. I want more HF but overall Rels tho. And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time. Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else. Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously. On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote: I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning. Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list. Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting. So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?" It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment. copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad): On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote: But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote: You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Tube beats her to the punch here. The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote: Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia! On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF. There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere? Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view. I probably wrote that wrong. These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off. I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell. Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake. | ||
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On August 31 2022 01:35 Dandel Ion wrote: all i need to read you is an answer to the following: How often do you find yourself shaking a fist at other people? Well palmar isn't in this game so I haven't had to do that yet... usually rayn makes me shake my fist too but we'll see. | ||
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On August 31 2022 02:10 Holyflare wrote: Why? Can't you push both or get to the bottom of why people are at odds with your own read? Yeah I'm gonna take another look at him now but on my first read through of the thread this morning copecake stuck out more. I wanted to cover my thoughts on them first. | ||
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Oh I missed this part, well I'm in the military so unfortunately more than I'd like to lol. | ||
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On August 31 2022 02:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah I'm gonna take another look at him now but on my first read through of the thread this morning copecake stuck out more. I wanted to cover my thoughts on them first. The problem with Deconduo's play is that when you're constantly just "joking" or "messing around", it makes it really hard to tell when someone actually has a real read. This seems to be decon's first "serious" post: On August 30 2022 19:26 deconduo wrote: None of them are particularly serious, but they are meant to ruffle feathers a bit. How people respond to them is always interesting. We have plenty of time left in the day for more serious posts, and shitposts do help get some insights on day one Alright this is fair, I agree that gauging people's reactions to nonsense can help. But you have to actually do something with these insights and so far decon hasn't really provided any reads or thoughts based on these insights. If you're going to post bs then you have to have a plan, otherwise you're just shitting up the thread for no reason. On August 30 2022 21:20 deconduo wrote: Where did HF go? I think he's actually moving to my mafia list Why, because of his activity? This post is useless without any reasoning. On August 30 2022 21:23 deconduo wrote: Rels as well did some drive by posting and then disappeared So both of these reads are based off of activity? Did you get any reads off your shitposts? On August 30 2022 23:05 deconduo wrote: ^ Good post. MZ did feel needlessly nit picky/tunnelling, but I didn't want to omgus so early in the game so I kinda ignored them. A few people have thrown shade at CopCake including MZ but I don't really see why Ok so first you agree that I was nit picky/tunnelling, but then you said you didn't really see why people threw shade on me? To me this is a complete contradiction and just like copcake, you're trying to sit on both sides of the fence so that nobody can actually pin you to a read. In keeping with the flip flopping, you also retract your HF read On August 31 2022 01:26 deconduo wrote: You disappeared from the thread when it got active. That normally sets off alarm bells for me as mafia like to post a bit of fluff and then fade into the background on day one. It's all been good since you came back. I actually don't hate this post, I agree with how he characterizes HF. I just don't like how he casually scumread HF before and is now backing off of it. I really am not a fan of how decon is playing so far. If his goal was to provoke reactions via shitposts, then he never actually did anything with it. Otherwise it's just nonsense that makes him look active and does nothing to help the town. Again, I read his first "list" seriously and if it was meant as a joke I still don't like it. He doesn't really have any reads aside from Rels for activity. He doesn't give a read on me despite saying that he doesn't like my play, but then says he doesn't know why people are "throwing shade" on me. The only problem is that I kinda agree with a couple of his posts. I just don't know if he's scum or lazy town who's not really trying. copcake (I've been calling them copecake, guess I've spent too much time on noncredibledefense) is my primary suspect but I'm still not liking decon. | ||
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On August 31 2022 02:55 CopCake wrote: How can I have a REAL read of you if you don't answer my question? (Oh look more questions, I am totally mafia) I think how you reacted to what I think it was an obvious joke was bad, I didn't like it. It was odd, therefore I needed ANSWERS. Because just defining if you are mafia based on a bad bad post is not enough. Is this hard to understand or am I not explaining myself? (Look more questions, totally mafia) On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view. I probably wrote that wrong. On August 31 2022 03:53 CopCake wrote: This is too contradictory I don’t even know what to make of it. - This is not a question - I hate this shit man, why does everything you write sound guilty. Have you played before? If so what games, I'm going to have to try and establish a meta read here. | ||
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On August 31 2022 04:33 CopCake wrote: Ok, I think that Ziphh is mafia now. He is literally ignoring a post I made in this same page. What post am I ignoring? Are you ever vanilla town? WTH Slam? Mafia - scum I'm a cop you idiot! - Round 4 - Doc but you revealed your role I'm a cop you idiot! - Round 2 - scum Holy Guardians - Cpt 3 - Page 2 - parity cop I'm tired of reading filters for now. | ||
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Right now after a first read of the thread I don't think I'm sold on a slam lynch but that's mostly because I have absolutely no idea how to read him. There are people here who swear they can soulread him so more power to them. | ||
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On August 31 2022 12:07 Rels wrote: Well, with all games being over 10 years old, it might not be relevant. FWIW I've found this in his very first game in which he was town. His first posts in his 2 scum games don't look like this. But yeah, I think it's too old to be worth something. I love how you quoted the game from 12 years ago lol, in all honesty I was a teenager with no idea what I was doing... still don't really know what I'm doing but oh well  Side note I think Pandain did end up being mafia that game. | ||
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OK given the current options I am most down with a vivax lynch. I'd also still be down for copcake although I did have to mentally check myself when someone (HF?) pointed out I might just be confirmation biasing myself with cop. After looking through rayn and Rels I don't feel so crazy for my earlier issues with deconduo as well although that might also be me looking at confirmation bias. Honestly given the extent of vivax's filter and lack of effort. I'm comfortable having my vote on him while I sleep. Just enough doubt about cop and decon for now. I really need to see decon post more, cop is at least fairly active. I'll try and be awake for the lynch but if not ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote: Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way ##Vote: Rels it's real now This makes me feel even more comfortable about not lynching Rels | ||
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You wanna explain the ninja copcake vote? I gotta be honest chez, it makes me cry to not see you more active in a game bearing your name | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:14 deconduo wrote: Would also explain the attempt to push the lynch on Vivax and then the switch to Rels when that didn't get momentum I can tell you're not reading the thread very closely bc I don't want to lynch rels. | ||
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Vivax is absolutely not worth keeping around, especially compared to rels. Decon can't even pay attention to the thread. Either of these two are better votes than rels. | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:26 Alakaslam wrote: Chezinu has been absent while being here. The ninja vote and no explanation was annoying. I think the whole town is kinda giving chez a pass right now and tbh I'm as bad at reading him as I am at reading you but I just wish chez was more active. | ||
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Lol, I am. That's who I voted last night. | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote: Why not decon? No-one seems to be able to answer me about it. Its super frustrating like I'm just being ignored. I coudl take or leave a vivax vote, but I'm far more inclined to vote rels, and even more so decon. Hang on: I would vote decon in a heartbeat over rels. | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:48 Alakaslam wrote: TBH tubesock's vote is giving me the chills regarding this Deconduo lynch I think it is tubesock Why? If rels is town as you believe, why would mafia tube switch his vote? | ||
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I mean sure but there's absolutely no reason for scum to be a part of last second lynch shenanigans unless they've got a team member involved. Regardless of who dies today (me, decon, or rels) everyone active at the deadline who switched votes will be under a microscope regardless of how the flips go. I just don't see scum getting involved without reason unless they're playing a power scum game and I definitely don't get that vibe from tube. Since I think rels is town, it doesn't make sense for scum to switch off of them. | ||
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What's most frustrating is that I still think rels is town so that lynch was green V green v green. | ||
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On September 01 2022 03:18 Koshi wrote: Funny. You lynched town and were the second wagon yourself. I wonder if this is a slip. No, I have no regrets lynching decon since he neither scum hunted or established himself as innocent by giving a shit about the game. Even his last post is pretty much useless because it's just reads he barely talked about in a list format which is ironic given how his early lists were all "just jokes guys" Not trying to speak ill of the dead here but damn, if you're town about to get mislynched you've got to do more. | ||
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On September 01 2022 03:36 Holyflare wrote: Did you comment on Slam or Tube at all? It's not really cool to talk down to people for not being here when you haven't even interacted with stuff that was brought up when you weren't around either. Please do that at your earliest convenience. Alright sweet you're not reading the thread. As I previously said, I can't read slam. But I can't for the life of me figure a scenario where slam hard defends rels and is scum. Decon dies and flips town, now slam is under suspicion for lynching town. If Rels is scum and dies, now slam is under suspicion for defending flipped scum. No matter what happens, slam puts himself under a microscope which is not where scum want to be. The simplest solution is that slam is town, townread rels, and didn't want to lynch him. While tube puts himself under less pressure than slam, he also participates in the eod vote switching, which if the lynch was really town v town v town as I suspect since I'm still town reading rels, I just don't see why scum tube would get involved. Far easier to sit back and wait for the deadline to pass and then hop in with excuses. And believe me, I work too. I got 5 hours of sleep so I could be around at the deadline and I'm about to leave for work again. These games happen so rarely around here now I was kinda hoping people were going to put in more effort. | ||
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On September 01 2022 03:46 Holyflare wrote: Given the wagons were MZ/Rels/Dec, I am leaving the onus on MZ or Rels to point out who all the mafia must be if from their perspective every wagon was probably town. + Show Spoiler + Let's ignore that instead of calling the people who didn't appear around deadline mafia because they were likely just complacent and afk (with 3 "town" wagons), MZ just said we were annoying instead Vivax for starters. Copcake would still be a decent bet especially since they were around prior to the lynch but didn't really offer much by the way of opinions. Unfortunately I could also see chez being scum as well at this point. | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:59 CopCake wrote: Fuck I was reading deconduo's filter, there's only one "bad" post in which he said he doesn't want to lynch anyone but other than that, I don't think he has done something that manipulative/mafia-esque. Why didn't you try harder to get me lynched? I've been your number one suspect the whole game, you were around prior to the deadline, you didn't want to lynch rels, yet you didn't really do much to try and push my lynch, even though I was very close to dying and there were clearly a lot of people on the fence. | ||
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On September 01 2022 04:09 Holyflare wrote: Why would mafia not want to save mafia? That's a bit of a stretch? Also, I have read. I think "not being able to read slam" is a cop out. You can disassociate the name and still interact with points made against him. The rest is okay, thanks I mean sure, scum slam and scum rels is possible but that's some extremely active scum play from both of them and if it fails they essentially lose 2 for one since slam is now playing his cards face up having hard defended a flipped red rels. I just don't see it at all. I agree it's a cop out but it's what I've got. And why the scope of what I'm talking about with slam is purely in the context of what happened at the deadline. Sorry for being a jackass. | ||
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I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. | ||
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On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote: Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game. | ||
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On September 01 2022 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I also need to look at Dandel, I wanna compare him and Vivax because in my head right now they're playing fairly similarly. So since I've been gone, it seem as though vivax has started trying a lot harder. Minor town points to everyone who said that would happen. This entertains me: On September 02 2022 12:32 Vivax wrote: This is town Because it's correct I've gotten soft tbh, but I already mentioned it earlier, it was just hard to get ??? being Dandel Who then claimed doc Nevertheless, I have to filter Koshi postmortem My read on vivax has pretty much been swayed by the following 3 posts that all happened in a row + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote: I think Chez and Slam are town HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE Nothing‘s changed from D1 I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope Did I forget anyone? I agree with HF and Rayn town reads, I agree with the jock and Dandel suspicions. I don't know about Jock aside from disliking his play early on, and I've still got copcake as scum. On September 02 2022 11:59 Vivax wrote: TS had a mediator kind of post I mentioned while rayn was around. Also lacked suspicion on MZ (suggests mz town) Chez latest lists make sense if he‘s assuming me or HF could be bussing two mates Jock just had the look of trying too hard early game with the quote chain + one-liner for each quote post (I did it later in same style while purely shitposting) Dandel made a massive case post on the wrong person (deco) when I threatened to death ray a scum, but also kinda ignored MZ Basically, I look for the guys who do just more than the ones doing barely anything or shitposting I agree with this post almost in its entirety. Still don't know about the tubesock stuff but a lot of my townreads are voting him so I'll have some more thoughts in my post about him and matt. On September 02 2022 12:09 Vivax wrote: This one is scummy, also post numbers wtf. So much token effort all over it Mediator post, scum feeling bad at thread atmosphere getting heated Jock posting like this among his first three posts, also pinging Dandel like that already ew. They never learn And lastly I like this post too, particularly the bit about dandel because that was how I read that monstrosity of a post the first time I saw it. Vivax is also pretty much in line with my thoughts on jock here too. So with all that said, I'm not interested in lynching vivax right away anymore. His activity has improved and his reads are decent although not 100% in line with what I'm seeing. Dandel on the other hand has not improved. All Dandel has done is tunnel Rels. This seems like a pretty easy move for scum to make given how the lynch went down EOD, Rels is an easy target for a lazy scum to tunnel. And lazy is the best way to describe this play, except for one massive "quote everything rels has ever said" post, dandel hasn't done much by the way of explaining why Rels is scum except for repeat that rels doesn't "progress his reads." Dandel also seems to be breadcrumbing a blue role in such a heavy handed manner it feels more like a scum who is looking to set up a claim later in the game and isn't afraid of getting shot at night. Bonus dandel tunnel posts + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2022 20:08 Dandel Ion wrote: rels is still mafia btw On September 02 2022 03:16 Dandel Ion wrote: I am literally only tunneling rels and you have no chance to sway me off him. On September 02 2022 03:16 Dandel Ion wrote: so best you just lynch rels with me. On September 02 2022 03:20 Dandel Ion wrote: My NK interpretation is that Rels is mafia. On September 02 2022 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote: Rels, le mafia "Of course" not having progression is a completely bullshit argument and it's insulting that people bought it. Thinking is not contingent on other people being there. My whole point is that Rels has talked about situations and people over multiple posts, when he in reality did only the workload of making a list. For what purpose, then, did he need to make multiple posts one may ask? Because he wants to look like he's working more and towards solving the game. When in reality the answers were set beforehand. The reason to make another post about the same subject would be because one had a new thought not expressed already. Rels has no new thoughts however. Because Rels is mafia and already knew where he wanted to be on people. ##Vote Rels again On September 02 2022 20:37 Dandel Ion wrote: I guess Rels wanted people to forget about his vote so bad he also did ^this was progression On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm progressing into many different ways of reading Rels as mafia On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote: Because Rels is mafia On September 02 2022 20:43 Dandel Ion wrote: It really was I have obtained information Rels is not actually interested in the island. He will attempt to leave in secret, with only his select few friends... On September 02 2022 20:44 Dandel Ion wrote: i am physically incapable of voting anybody but Rels my fingers wont let me type the letters This is just useless and at some point becomes a very convenient way for scum to spam the thread by just acting like a shitty townie. Absolutely nothing new is being added and not attempt is made at convincing people. I keep coming back to the word lazy and for me, that sums up dandel's play. While I initially felt dandel and vivax were playing very similarly, vivax has since then started giving a fuck and generated some decent reads, while dandel has just floated along and crutched off this Rels tunnel to avoid actual scum hunting. | ||
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Dude! I'm a C-130 Nav haha, small world. It's a great plane. Post on mattchew and you coming up in a second. | ||
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I'm not responding to your case btw, you are so hopelessly tunneled onto me that nothing is going to change your mind. I also am still pretty sure you're scum so it's not really worth my time. | ||
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On September 03 2022 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: You actually should, if you are town. She cannot be tunneled and mafia at the same time, so you need to pick one. Even if you think she is mafia i think you should respond because it takes away her guns if she is actually mafia or she needs to do something else (if youre town) that might give her up. You can absolutely tunnel as scum, it's exactly what I think dandel is doing to rels rn. It's an easy way of deflecting suspicion and a way for lazy scum to skate by without actually having to work to blend in because they get away with being "bad town." | ||
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On September 03 2022 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: You actually should, if you are town. She cannot be tunneled and mafia at the same time, so you need to pick one. Even if you think she is mafia i think you should respond because it takes away her guns if she is actually mafia or she needs to do something else (if youre town) that might give her up. Think about it, they have done exactly one thing this game which is tunnel me, same with dandel tunneling rels. People write it off as bad town play but it's such an easy excuse for scum. | ||
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On September 03 2022 07:41 Tubesock wrote: You want to know what's even worse??? I don't think Rels or Vivax are mafia anymore. I have ZERO scumreads at the moment. What are your thoughts on Dandel, Jock, or copcake I'm trying to write this post looking at you and Matt but I keep refreshing your filter and this thread and there's more to read. | ||
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After my post on dandel and vivax I started looking at tube and Matt but as I've been reading and writing your conversation has been going on with tube and I'm kinda just waiting to see how your back and forth plays out to see if it changes how I view tube. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am curious how do you view Tube atm? So honestly, at EOD D1 I had him as lean town bc I had a hard time seeing scum flip flop his vote like that. Mostly because if rels flips scum then it all but confirms tube is scum, and if rels is town there's no reason for him to get involved in the lynch between myself, decon, and rels. But you and HF are two of my stronger town reads and you're pushing tube so I'm trying to look at it from all angles and see if I'm missing something. I actually think there's a fair chance everyone voting tube rn is town, except maybe for chez. Meanwhile most of my scum reads are on rels, and tube is there too. So yeah I'm just working through this now before I make up my mind one way or another. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a question about this. Why do you... think like this? I don't get it. My thingy thing in mafia is to find one mafia, then work who that mafia can be mafiabuddies with. I have never understood why people play mafia like that, if this then that. But if not this then you're always at the starting point again, like groundhog D1 again and again if you happen to be wrong. I look at it based on: what is accomplished by tube's vote. Tube removed the hammer from Rels and put it onto me. Rels then voted Dec and that was the lynch. If Rels is scum and tube is scum, that's a super dumb switch to make bc tube now gets alllll the suspicion for how that vote went down if rels ever flips If rels is town and tube is scum, why get involved in the first place, let the lynch on rels happen. I just don't see how tube is scum based on EOD. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tube never voted for you? If you are town and Rels is mafia why is that a bad switch again? If you are town and Rels is town why is that a bad switch again? Except that Tube should vote for you or Rels in his mind.... Sorry I should have been more clear. Tube voted for decon which put the hammer on me. If I'm town and rels is mafia then if rels flips at any point in the game it puts a huge amount of pressure on tube. If we're both town, tube still gets pressure (i.e. exactly what is happening right now) because of how the vote looked. In my mind, if tube is scum and rels is town he should have never even showed up in the thread and just come back after the night post. We would have a much different focus (either on me or decon if rels dies and is town). Tube's actions only really make sense as either a spastic townie or a scum trying to save his buddy, so unless rels flips scum, I just don't know what motivation scum tube has for even getting involved at EOD. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: If rels is scum and tube is scum then i think tube just saved mafia from being lynched. Yes this is exactly what I'm saying. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: again how is this guy town ?????????????? This post is literally why I stopped to question my read. I'm just trying to figure out the logic for why tf scum tube does this unless it's to save scum rels. And even then that's just a terrible play objectively speaking. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you think Tube is only mafia if Rels is mafia? That's pretty much where I'm at. If tube if mafia and rels is town then that's gotta be some of the worst EOD scum play I've seen in a while. | ||
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On September 03 2022 08:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you saying mafia can get away with anything just because "too bad to be scum" or what? No you're right, I hate the "too dumb to be scum" excuse. Although in this particular case I'd prefer to lynch dandel or maybe mattchew. Especially given that tube is around and posting, I'm willing to see how it plays out for one more day. | ||
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On September 01 2022 10:10 Tubesock wrote: After filter reads towns are Koshi, Dandel Ion, Jockmcplop, Meap_Ziphh, Copcake, raynpelikoneet, and Alakaslam. Rels, Vivax I'm around, going to keep reading. On September 03 2022 08:12 Tubesock wrote: Dand- I agree with most of what he says. His Rels post I thought aligned well to my thinking. Rels really looked like he was performing. And continued to do so. I for some reason liked how he asked you if you shake your fist at people. Kinda dumb but I gave you both some town points. Granted you had less for being so serious against Decon. Jock- I think he's pretty solid town. I like that he kept looking at other things for the overall picture not just only his lynch. Unlike Decon. Decon would be overhelming town if he was lynch Rels but also doing more investigating. I think Jock is looking deeper than a normal scum would. Copcake- Feeling she's town. Don't agree with her case on you, but I believe she believes it. I've written many cases like that and have been ignored compeltely too. Mattchew on the other hand is pretty cut and dry First he has a pretty terrible post calling rayn mafia and me his top town read. He also calls copcake scum based on my case: On August 31 2022 05:08 Mattchew wrote: Ok lets get started. Theres been a lot of conversation about individual player habits and previous games, honestly i havent played in forever and dont remember the games i did play, i will also not be going back thru previous games/players history to expand on these reads. I will obviously be reading and judging posts with these reads but thru a lens of just this game Having read up to page 22, there was only 1 player that super stuck out as someone I was suspicious of based on just this game and that player is raynpelikoneet. every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads, all of this reads to me as if he is trying to look like he is free posting and active town while not actually saying anything. Like this is his most active post in the game so far and the only thing hes said since actual reads discussion has started (notice his activity has dropped significantly with real game conversation taking place). It consists of what I consider a pretty light/meme read on koshi, a "im not sure" on cake/mz, and insanely light scum read on decon that screams "i can bail on this read if needed" and 2 more random "probs town". This to me is quintessential mafia not knowing how to interject opinions into the game because they have too much information and thinking that day 1 activity can get them thru to day 2. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ The MZ push on CC is also something that has caught my eye. + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok starting where I left off. Firstly, copcake fluff + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote: Hi Rels, long time no see :D On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote: Hi Jock, long time no see. On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0 Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist. On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote: If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia. On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote: Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent. On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote: I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him: Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list" Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game. Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously. So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?" It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment. copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad): Tube beats her to the punch here. The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote: Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia! On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF. There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere? Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view. I probably wrote that wrong. These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off. I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell. Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake. I can't find anything wrong with this post, he is correct about the tone of posts and similarly to my rayn read finds a lot of fluff that anyone can post for activity that doesnt actually help town progress forward towards a mafia lynch. MZ seems to be playing the game very seriously which I can appreciate and at this point is trying to nail down his CC read and is pushing incredibly hard for it which screams MZ is town to me. TLDR: MZ is top town read, Rayn and CC top mafia and Chez rulez He doesn't want to lynch me or rels On August 31 2022 13:01 Mattchew wrote: man i do not like either of mz or rels. rels made a really good point about rayn that has me super questioning my read on him, his emotional manipulation would be HELLA bitch made if he was mafia doing that. the only person i like on the Rels train is koshi and the only person i like on the MZ train is HF (but he may be pocketing me TBD) So he leaves his vote on rayn (terrible). What a great way to completely avoid having to give any real opinions or reads. He then disappears until after the lynch, when he returns he posts this gem: On September 01 2022 07:09 Mattchew wrote: Reading up on the past 20ish pages, felt to me like we had 3 town wagons and that the people moving votes around towards the end were more likely town then mafia. This opinion is completely based in the fact that i think mz is town. If i am correct, it would have been incredibly easy for mafia to hide votes scattered amongst dec mz rels. The only person heavily posting at the end of day that i didnt like was slam. Slam why are you being so lazy Once again, I am seemingly his top town read, and he also freely townreads rels AND all the people moving their votes EOD except for some reason, slam. Having too many townreads is a hallmark of scum because a) you know that everyone actually is town and b) you don't read the game with the same suspicious mindset that a townie has to read it with. BUT WAIT, PLOT TWIST ALERT: On September 01 2022 07:17 Mattchew wrote: Man a vig shot on mz would fill in so many blanks Time to vig me, his most consistent town read so far, just for information. But aside from the terrible vigi shot, he's also open to the idea that Dandel, and maybe tube AND NOW ME are scum. Not to sound like dandel who harped so much on rels about "progression", but this progression makes absolutely no sense from a town point of view and instead sounds like scum trying to appropriately position themselves for the next lynch. Now Matt is gonna double down on this: On September 01 2022 08:43 Mattchew wrote: Shooting mz is best Mz is mafia, a. A mafia is ded and the people voting him are probably town cause the guts to stay on that bus is just too great for me to fathom B. Mz is town and while we get significantly less vote logic we atleast dont head into day 2 distracted by how yesterdays lynch and votes and connections are made. But matt, you think mz is town, yes but i am not nearly good or smart enough to think i am absolutely right or that i feel strong enough about my day 1 read to warrant keeping someone that could be an easy mafia tunnel/mafia member alive "I'm gonna call for my town read to get vigi shot for information because I'm too lazy to figure it out and even though we don't get information if he's town (which is my [matt's] read) but let's just waste a vigi shot N1. Like... there is no possible way a townie could arrive at this line of reasoning. On September 02 2022 02:42 Mattchew wrote: Lazy reads only eon post: Town: koshi rels hf Town but should be vig shot: mz Scummies: rayn, cc, tube, slam This is just... more bad. Still calling rayn scum, still scum reading copcake based on my case despite the fact he wants me dead. There is absolutely no logical flow to these reads. On September 03 2022 10:41 Mattchew wrote: yeah im completing my turnaround on rayn. he is active and trying to solve the game. this also may be my new favorite mafia post + Show Spoiler + On September 03 2022 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: truth to be told i actually got quite annoyed at mattchew on day one. anyway i like lynching tubesock, would love to follow that up with a CC or Slam lynch. rayn you dont have MZ as mafia, what does a mafia rels gain from hammering 1 town over another at the last second "completing your turnaround on rayn" bro what? You made one half assed read of rayn at the beginning of D1 and then just lightly called him scum and now all of a sudden you've had an epiphany? This reads like scum trying to back out of a corner. To complete the reads on this post, he says he'd be happy to lynch tube and as far as I can tell this is his reasoning back on D1: On August 31 2022 05:16 Mattchew wrote: I forgot i wanted to re-look at this post (had it in a tab that i missed) This post by tube was super sketchy and screamed of TMI and trying to blend in, its also his only post of the game since reads have been flowing and has no evidence/logic behind anything said Like damn dude, just gonna hang your hat on that? It really feels like matt is just going along with tube because at the time, the thread was swinging towards a tube lynch. Matt's play is inconsistent, his reads are all over the place and not backed up, he 180s on rayn for no reason, he calls for me to be shot despite even saying we wouldn't learn anything if I was town (and he thinks I am). He skates the first lynch and is now ready to hop onto whatever wagon is the most convenient. 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On September 03 2022 11:05 Mattchew wrote: me wanting you dead does not mean i dont think your town. I just think it gives the maximum information about yesterdays lynch (you avoided the late bandwagon) and there was/is enough people calling you mafia that you could be an easy mislynch. again, i am not cocky enough to think because i think your town that you wont flip mafia. you can call it lazy i would call it being efficient I avoided the late bandwagon? Brother I was one of the people who started the decon wagon with slam and jock. Unless you're talking about rels and I already explained why I didn't want to do that. You don't kill townies for information lol, this is a scum mindset. | ||
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On September 03 2022 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you really feel you want to push the dude over the dude who had 2 scumreads and voted the third guy over those two? I mean we're also talking about a dude who called for a vigi shot on his top townread. | ||
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I mean give what I just posted a good read through, he calls for it and then doubles down. | ||
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On September 03 2022 11:46 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count Tubesock (5): Holyflare, Chezinu, Rels(3): Dandel Ion, Dandel Ion (1): Rels Mattchew (0): Vivax (0): Not Voting (3):Jockmcplop, Tubesock, Meapak_Ziphh With 5 votes, Tubesock is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Saturday, Sep 03 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in Let's say for the sake of argument, it's EOD and all of the people you've voted for so far today are tied. Who are you hammering? Tube, Rels, or Matt? | ||
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On September 03 2022 12:34 Vivax wrote: I don‘t care. You don‘t know what this is about The ‚it‘ doesn‘t get outside info like you, and doesn‘t chase Good lord ok, gonna have to filter this out for now. Actually though thanks for reminding me, where the fuck is chezinu? I find his lack of posting disturbing. | ||
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That's what I'm feeling right now, I could see chez swapped in there as well. Rels/Tube/Jock kinda live in no man's land where I can come up with compelling arguments either way. Probably gonna have a few drinks tonight, set an alarm, and finalize my vote tomorrow morning. | ||
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On September 03 2022 12:56 Chezinu wrote: If you had to decide between Holyflare and Vivax, who would you say is more likely to be mafia? Now, how about between Rels and Tubesock? Now, Copcake and Chezinu. This last one is more for me to tell your role cause parity cop. This is the easiest HF - Vivax Honestly no fucking clue on the second one but probably rels - tube This one is easy too, the only reason I even suspect you is bc I was expecting more activity from you. chezinu - copcake | ||
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On September 03 2022 14:24 Mattchew wrote: Cause you think im mafia or dumb? Because I don't believe this soft blue claim right here: | ||
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In light of that and the tube flip I'm going to have to rework my reads a bit. I'm not so sure on my matt read or my copcake read. | ||
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On September 05 2022 23:30 Mattchew wrote: People i want alive Hf Chez Rayn Rels People i want less alive Slam Vivax People i just really want to know the alignment of Mz People i want dead Jock Cc This is a good post. I've completely changed my mind on you matt. | ||
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On September 05 2022 22:15 CopCake wrote: Jokes aside, Jock since the beginning has been trying to solve the game, even with his "spamming" questions, I know that because I tend to solve things like that plus with reactions / tone reading. I am pretty sure I have said before that I think that Jock is town. So who's all scum besides from me and rels in your mind? Because I'm having a hard time seeing how someone who has been afk for the last 72 hours is trying to solve the game. | ||
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I have a feeling at least one of the remaining scum is lurking in there. One thing I'm having a hard time with is the Dandel NK. Imo rayn and HF appear much more solid town and Dandel was on several people's scum lists. In my mind dandel either gets killed because he was very right or very wrong. Obviously if he was very right that makes rels like 100% scum. Or he was very wrong and was killed to add fuel to the rels lynch. I just have to decide which one it is. | ||
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I might be having a renaissance with how I read rels. | ||
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On September 06 2022 00:59 CopCake wrote: Do you think Town can give the luxury to kill someone inactive right now? What would we win? It is actually very scummy to go and chew someone who can't defend himself. He is not coasting to survive, as you see, he didn't vote last day. And I said "in the beginning" like the time he has been active he was very town. So far I think is you/rels/hf or you/rels/matt. Btw, live in a world in which I am town, who are the mafia? Everything I do in your mind is scummy. I have seen scum fuck off just as much as I've seen town fuck off. Some people hate playing it. Why is HF scum now? In a world where you're town, it's rels/jock slam or chez. | ||
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On September 06 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia kill Dandel if they don't think he is blue and he is very wrong AND he is a mislynch target? MZ? I'm not sure I understand your question. I get that they could have been hunting for blues but he could have just as easily been a mislynch today and they could have shot someone like you or HF. Which when looking at dead Koshi's reads I'm starting to think that Dandel was more right than wrong. Scum rels/scum slam also kinda works. | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: You entertained that Dandel was either very right or very wrong (he basically said rels is mafia and that's it lol). You also entertained he could be mislynched easily because he was on many people's lynch list. You didn't entertain a bluehunt scenario. So based on this: Why does Dandel get killed if he is very wrong in your mind? Ah ok, if he's very wrong, dandel gets killed to help drive a lynch on rels, since he was screaming from the top of the tower that rels was scum. If rels is town it just helps the mislynch go a bit smoother. But I'm not sure that dandel was wrong, especially after reading koshi. | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:23 CopCake wrote: Have you considered that mafia might have also killed people they dont think would be jailkeepered/doc’ed? Not everything is for “the reads” but to fool blue roles. That is why I have avoided to talk about them the whole game. I mean sure. I guess I'm reading through this in the lense of what I'd do as scum because I rarely see blue roles have a real impact on the game beyond an occasional hero vigi. Hence why I'm looking at the NKs as either "killed bc they were right" or "killed bc they were wrong and to mislead town" My own biases against blue roles aside, I doubt scum are throwing away their one NK on a hail Mary to try and hit blue kills, there are probably read reasons for the kills even if they were blue hunting. | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: ah no nevermind... i am dumb as fuck. But still why does mafia (assuming Dandel is town and Rels is town) take out the person who is basically +1 vote for them every single day? Yeah now you see why I'm changing my mind lol. Also koshi's reads were a nice warm fuzzy to help make changing my mind easier. Of course if rels is scum it means I completely fucked the D1 lynch with the help of slam. | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: ah no nevermind... i am dumb as fuck. But still why does mafia (assuming Dandel is town and Rels is town) take out the person who is basically +1 vote for them every single day? OK I read this bit some more and it has me convinced. | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay now why are you not voting for Rels? :D Check the voting thread. @copcake, if rels is scum it would make a slam/HF team not unreasonable. There may yet exist a world where you're town. | ||
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On September 06 2022 01:37 CopCake wrote: There is only one real world and that world says I am town. Why Slam and not someone else? o_O Why not Jock as you have questioned? Slam bc of the D1 shenanigans with the votes. And I say that knowing full well rels flipping scum makes me look terrible too. But it's a total toss up, it could be slam/jock slam/chez (although based on how they interact in the thread I don't think that's likely). Jock/HF is possible too. | ||
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Yeah he did but that was D1 and he also scum read me so I wouldn't think HF's scum reads would matter to you 😉 | ||
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On September 06 2022 05:19 Mattchew wrote: Im legit so confused How I feel after reading the last like 5 pages. | ||
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On September 07 2022 12:41 Chezinu wrote: It's like everyone was going hard until we got mafia and now can finally rest... I'm flying again tomorrow so I spent most of my day planning. It's my only flight this week though so I'll have plenty of time after. | ||
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Scum has got to be one of CC or HF and one of slam or chez | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:13 Alakaslam wrote: I'm gonna suspect Mafia wants to No Kill (otherwise congrats wp doc) which makes me want to be even more pro-town and no lynch until we get even more info. What do you think about holyflare's claim? H o l y f l a r e come out. | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: He probably was also shot then tbh In my opinion, any vets or medics who blocked a shot should claim now. The medic would give us two confirmed town and the vet would maybe give us some insight into what scum is thinking. I find it very unlikely scum held their shot since it's 6v2 right now. | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:32 Holyflare wrote: lol I'm VT get rekt So big boi, still want to lynch copcake? | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:41 Holyflare wrote: ##vote copcake The winning move my friend. | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:45 Alakaslam wrote: If they are confident they can get another ML due to general poor town play and confusion, confirming the opinions of another player as town could be more detrimental than the numbers. But maybe the doc is that good or the JK hit well or IDK But I still lean toward the "Town has no clue so mafia would rather deny info than advance kills" That or I am in favor of lynching Mattchew. I can't be certain he is mafia though and want more info to work with, despite my not really going back and sifting much. Oh slam that is not the winning move. | ||
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Tubesock N1 Mattchew N2 - same Copcake N3 - different This should have been really obvious given how I 180'd my read on Matt after N2. And I'm getting a strong suspicion slam is the final scum. | ||
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On September 08 2022 03:59 CopCake wrote: You can't know that AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I wish there was an actual cop in this game or a tracker and had checks on me Guess what my friend, I do have a check on you. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:04 CopCake wrote: Once again, I was your number 1 person to grill and you called me mafia all the game and until night 3 you decided to check me? You who said Jock was mafia for fluffposting? No, I can't believe it. Mafia is you and HF. Lmao I checked people who's alignment I wasn't sure of. Tube I just had no idea of because of the N1 shenanigans. I checked Matt N2 because I was about to show up D3 and push hard for his lynch and I wanted to verify, and yesterday with the HF stuff I started wondering if you might have been town after all so I checked you. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:14 Alakaslam wrote: Let's lynch copcake and you can check me if you'd like. I recommend checking Chez but either way works, unless there is a pool of suspicion I am forgetting? Unfortunately, my checks are useless now since when copcake dies (assuming no unaware miller), everyone else in this game will return green since I think we'll be down to just the gf. But on the other hand, cop is probably the scum's only power role so no more RB/mafia vig. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:23 Alakaslam wrote: Well with a CopCake lynch we should be able to afford an ML on me. If it isn't me it is Chez right? Or vivax or even HF maybe. Only people I actually consider confirmed are Matt and by extension Rayn. | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: So MZ has a different check on Cake and someone who was town and flipped? My different check is between Matt and cop Matt came back same as tube | ||
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On September 08 2022 04:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your fakeclaim was pretty flawed and stupid so i am considering all options pardon me. As long as cop flips scum and not unaware Miller I think I'd be willing to clear HF off of that because he came into today ready to lynch her. That's why I was trying to get him to commit to his read before I role claimed. | ||
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On September 08 2022 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think HF is mafia. I don't think the night shit makes any sense, even as VT. Also, he knows he has been blocked by Mattchew as per his words. So I'm about to fly and I haven't been able to read the thread thoroughly but has mattchew clarified whether he is a Jail Keeper or a doctor? Because if he's a jail keeper, this actually makes a decent amount of sense. | ||
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On September 09 2022 11:41 Grackaroni wrote: Day Four Vote Count CopCake (4): Holyflare (2): Not Voting (2): Chezinu, Holyflare With 4 votes, CopCake is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Friday, Sep 09 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in HF where's your vote? | ||
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I'll obviously be sending in a night action but imo there's a pretty strong chance scum have a gf since I'm an investigation role, so I personally won't put too much stock into any green checks I get. We're gonna have to solve this with good old fashioned scum hunting. | ||
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On September 10 2022 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Chezinu is mafia. This is my preliminary thought as well although I intend to do some rereading. | ||
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On September 10 2022 16:12 Vivax wrote: Can‘t sleep cause I can‘t stop laughing Going through Chez Fitler made it worse Fitler | ||
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