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Rels is reading the game similarly to me as well although I disagree with the slam vote.
OK given the current options I am most down with a vivax lynch. I'd also still be down for copcake although I did have to mentally check myself when someone (HF?) pointed out I might just be confirmation biasing myself with cop. After looking through rayn and Rels I don't feel so crazy for my earlier issues with deconduo as well although that might also be me looking at confirmation bias.
Honestly given the extent of vivax's filter and lack of effort. I'm comfortable having my vote on him while I sleep. Just enough doubt about cop and decon for now. I really need to see decon post more, cop is at least fairly active.
I'll try and be awake for the lynch but if not ##Vote: Vivax
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On August 31 2022 12:43 Alakaslam wrote:
##Summon Chezinu is Unizehc the bold and wise
Chapazi Isizapahc
Hey guys! I'm Chezinu!
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On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now
This makes me feel even more comfortable about not lynching Rels
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On August 31 2022 20:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now This makes me feel even more comfortable about not lynching Rels
For Rels
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On August 31 2022 20:50 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 20:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now This makes me feel even more comfortable about not lynching Rels For Rels
You wanna explain the ninja copcake vote?
I gotta be honest chez, it makes me cry to not see you more active in a game bearing your name
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6 people want to vote Vivax off based on what exactly? Role-playing as a trashcan?
So it is a 100% meta vote?
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On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now
I could see this being true, for sure.
He's doubling down on weird things, repeating stuff others have said, and being pretty ambiguous about much of the other stuff.
In fact, I'm adding rels to my vote list.
Our chat last night really went nowhere. He didn't even try to get any new information out of me even though he was questioning me about all of his concerns and ended up still at the same point he was before he asked the questions.
I'm like I was answering all his questions without being evasive or arguing, why can't he use that to progress his reads, or the game somehow. Instead he's still stuck on rayn's very first post which generated nothing useful? I don't buy it to be honest, and nothing has really changed at all from that interaction, except for i now scumread rels.
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On August 31 2022 20:46 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 12:43 Alakaslam wrote:
##Summon Chezinu is Unizehc the bold and wise
Chapazi Isizapahc Hey guys! I'm Chezinu!
Hi Chezinu. Leader of the brown.
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I‘ll just assume 3 mafia
180ing on MZ
It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo
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Back on MZ it is
Also, phoneposting from bed. I feel seasick today and wouldn‘t mind being stuffed with painkillers
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I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.
Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right? Deconduo's first post. I'm calling it now. If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too. Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez. Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it. Serious question to decon:Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously? Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek. If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek. This it it right for dec? Pretty much. There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them. So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me. I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.
He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.
That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.
Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.
On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so
##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled
All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.
On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.
##: Unvote
The whole thing looks mutually weird.
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I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?
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On August 31 2022 20:46 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 12:43 Alakaslam wrote:
##Summon Chezinu is Unizehc the bold and wise
Chapazi Isizapahc Hey guys! I'm Chezinu!
Hiya, why vote Cop?
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On August 30 2022 23:06 deconduo wrote:
We're allowed to unvote and switch votes right? Don't see anything about it in the OP
Saying this before voting for rels adds a further layer of tinfoil to my hat.
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More decon
There's zero attempt to progress his reads throughout the day.
He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.
But all I get from his filter is that he's interested in both MZ and holyflare without actually attempting to go any further than that.
##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Deconduo
For someone who has posted a fair amount, there's a startling lack of actual content.
Read his filter. Tell me I'm wrong.
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Also koshi has made a fairly convincing case for letting vivax live for now.
I am also giving rels some credit for that too, hence the vote for decon.
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On August 31 2022 20:59 Koshi wrote:
6 people want to vote Vivax off based on what exactly? Role-playing as a trashcan?
So it is a 100% meta vote?
I‘m a trashcan, I eat trash
This underhanded flattery is so unlike you
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Rels, just read along in his filter if you will I'm going chronological on this
#529 rayn and koshi top town, votes copcake and floats jock and slam
as per #533 copcake is a sheep off koshi
that all looks fine so far, no?
#534, #535, #537 is the first instance of what I mean. HF wasn't tunneling but hey maybe he was tunneling after all.
This is meant to look like progression but it's actually just nothing.
#542 towncases copcake
next saga
#543 vivax and dandel deserve to be shot
#544 because we're both 'useless'
then
#548 Slam is scummy
#553 actually he has no idea how to read Slam and his filter is not alignment indicative for him. HF's case does not make Slam scum. But Slam's posts still 'feel kind of fabricated'.
back on an old horse
#555 I'm just reacting to jock, which implies jock is leading and driving the conversation and I'm just being pulled along, however,
#556 + #557 Jock is still the one looking like mafia here, somehow because it "seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious"
When his own argument to dismiss me is that jock drove the entire conversation. But that can not possibly be townie because professional fencesitter Rels needs more pointy bits of wood to park his ass.
#558 notably directly after the above, asks Vivax to participate, probably in full trust that Vivax will not, in fact do that. And you can always point back and go 'bad meanie Vivax didn't want to talk to me, big sad so scum'. This is just set-up for a future push and in no way can Rels actually think this would help him in reading Vivax.
But then, it's not really about trying to figure out who is town and who is scum, just who is 'pushable' and how believable these pushes are.
Going along
#562 Jock was just looking for an easy way to fabricate a scumread
When jock points out that he didn't, #569 comes to the rescue because that certainly does not prove that Rels is WRONG. It could totally be except he caps the post off by weakening his own stance to 'just a counter-example, not proof'.
Yo for real my fence is breaking under the weight of this man.
YO IT'S MY HOMEBOI DECONDUO UP IN HEA
#573 "hahahaha =D" jock's decon case is unconvincing but Rels will re-read it.
I assume it's not terrible because he doesn't post about it further just asks about it in #578
instead
#576 jock is just so scummy holy shit guyse
#579 Rels is now voting Slam
#583 decon's vote on Rels is "bad :p"
#584 Slam is the preferred lynch
#586 actually, decon is super natural, and yeah sure there's little 'substance' but for no discernable reason deconduo deserves completely different treatment than Vivax or Dandel did when decon is essentially the same slot.
Decon is mafia with Rels calling it here, especially since
#587 in Rels' townreads, decon suddenly doesn't appear at all! Wowzers! idk fam the last post sure read like a supposed townread to me but what do I know
#588 PoE, decon is in here because Rels remembered his own strategy I assume. But Vivax should be lynched over him (or Tube/Matt) anyway, funny how that works out. Whoever's not there is supposed to be scum I guess, idk. So me/Slam/jock but Rels doesn't have the cojones to actually call out a scumteam with both me and jock on it because he knows how insane and wrong that will sound to anybody.
The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake.
That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man.
Rels is mafia and as a tight little bonus i'm pretty sure that if he flips red decon is the next scum.
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On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is mafia and as a tight little bonus i'm pretty sure that if he flips red decon is the next scum.
MY MAN
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On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
More decon
There's zero attempt to progress his reads throughout the day.
He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.
But all I get from his filter is that he's interested in both MZ and holyflare without actually attempting to go any further than that.
##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Deconduo
For someone who has posted a fair amount, there's a startling lack of actual content.
Read his filter. Tell me I'm wrong.
done too much reading already, want rels first
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but am a generous man and willing to negotiate terms
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