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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
August 31 2022 12:47 GMT
#661
Oh this is good news.
DI you are my tip top town right now. That was some mind meld. I didn't even know you were around lol.
RIP Meatloaf <3
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 12:47 GMT
#662
On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:

He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.


Rayn reads like a tunnel vision townie rather than scum, someone who has (wrongly) made their mind up and won't change it. I've seen nothing to suggest Rayn is a good town player so far this game. There was an inkling when they went to the effort of reading my old games, but again it was pointless because it's clear there was only one going to be outcome when tunneled. I don't see scum purposefully trying to build a bad case, everything points to dumb town.

Good town players don't whine and throw tantrums and ask to be modkilled either.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
August 31 2022 12:49 GMT
#663
On August 31 2022 21:47 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:

He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.


Rayn reads like a tunnel vision townie rather than scum, someone who has (wrongly) made their mind up and won't change it. I've seen nothing to suggest Rayn is a good town player so far this game. There was an inkling when they went to the effort of reading my old games, but again it was pointless because it's clear there was only one going to be outcome when tunneled. I don't see scum purposefully trying to build a bad case, everything points to dumb town.

Good town players don't whine and throw tantrums and ask to be modkilled either.


Hmm...
I suppose this carries weight because Decon doesn't play much, but rayn is a good scumhunter, so it depends whether they have played together alot in the past.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 31 2022 12:49 GMT
#664
On August 31 2022 21:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
Oh this is good news.
DI you are my tip top town right now. That was some mind meld. I didn't even know you were around lol.

I am amazed I actually got this done and am already away again
~~~
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
August 31 2022 12:50 GMT
#665
On August 31 2022 21:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:47 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:

He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.


Rayn reads like a tunnel vision townie rather than scum, someone who has (wrongly) made their mind up and won't change it. I've seen nothing to suggest Rayn is a good town player so far this game. There was an inkling when they went to the effort of reading my old games, but again it was pointless because it's clear there was only one going to be outcome when tunneled. I don't see scum purposefully trying to build a bad case, everything points to dumb town.

Good town players don't whine and throw tantrums and ask to be modkilled either.


Hmm...
I suppose this carries weight because Decon doesn't play much, but rayn is a good scumhunter, so it depends whether they have played together alot in the past.


Shit i thought your post came from DI, misread the name at the top.

Don't argue against my case, friend, go find scum. Its the only thing that will change my mind about you.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
August 31 2022 12:51 GMT
#666
Day One Vote Count

Meapak_Ziphh (4): Holyflare, Vivax, CopCake, Alakaslam, Vivax
Rels(3): Koshi, Deconduo, Tubesock, Dandel Ion
Raynpelikoneet(1): Mattchew
Vivax (1): Jockmcplop, Meapak_Ziphh
Alakaslam (1): Rels
Deconduo (1): Jockmcplop
CopCake (1): Rels, Chezinu
Dandel Ion (0): Jockmcplop

Not Voting (2): Raynpelikoneet, Deconduo

With 4 votes, Meapak_Ziphh is currently set to be lynched!

Please let me know if you notice any mistakes

The deadline is Wednesday, Aug 31 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
August 31 2022 12:51 GMT
#667
On August 31 2022 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
More decon

There's zero attempt to progress his reads throughout the day.
He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.
But all I get from his filter is that he's interested in both MZ and holyflare without actually attempting to go any further than that.

##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: Deconduo


For someone who has posted a fair amount, there's a startling lack of actual content.

Read his filter. Tell me I'm wrong.

done too much reading already, want rels first


Go for it, I can change vote later if no-one is biting on the decon vote. I'm around until EoD anyway.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 31 2022 12:52 GMT
#668
MZ is still town btw
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 31 2022 12:53 GMT
#669
10% post content, 90% attitude

There, I‘ve written the best guide to mafia
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 12:53 GMT
#670
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 31 2022 12:56 GMT
#671
On August 31 2022 21:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 20:59 Koshi wrote:
6 people want to vote Vivax off based on what exactly? Role-playing as a trashcan?
So it is a 100% meta vote?


I‘m a trashcan, I eat trash
This underhanded flattery is so unlike you

It's not me. It's them.
I had a good night of sleep.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
August 31 2022 12:57 GMT
#672
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 31 2022 13:01 GMT
#673
On August 31 2022 21:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:44 Vivax wrote:
On August 31 2022 20:59 Koshi wrote:
6 people want to vote Vivax off based on what exactly? Role-playing as a trashcan?
So it is a 100% meta vote?


I‘m a trashcan, I eat trash
This underhanded flattery is so unlike you

It's not me. It's them.


Well, trash as in mafia
Not the players
You look a bit unhappy
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 13:04 GMT
#674
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:05 GMT
#675
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 31 2022 13:09 GMT
#676
On August 31 2022 22:05 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me


The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia.
If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 31 2022 13:12 GMT
#677
On August 31 2022 22:05 deconduo wrote:
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On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me


It‘s more that it suggests a purely ‚correct way to play here, listen‘ mindset imo
To what end? To defend Rels, but while telling ‚go find scum‘
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
August 31 2022 13:13 GMT
#678
Or rather not defend Rels, but berate decon for the votes
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:14 GMT
#679
On August 31 2022 22:09 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 22:05 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
[quote]
Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me


The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia.
If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.



'Here is a case against you - but no no you can't respond to all the faults in it. Go hunt scum'

It's protecting himself against any criticism against holes in the case, and either:
- I don't find scum and he pushes a lynch while sitting back happy
- I find scum - he takes credit for 'forcing me to go hunt'

Very convenient.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9959 Posts
August 31 2022 13:18 GMT
#680
On August 31 2022 22:14 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 22:09 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 22:05 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
[quote]
This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me


The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia.
If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.



'Here is a case against you - but no no you can't respond to all the faults in it. Go hunt scum'

It's protecting himself against any criticism against holes in the case, and either:
- I don't find scum and he pushes a lynch while sitting back happy
- I find scum - he takes credit for 'forcing me to go hunt'

Very convenient.


Nah anyone can criticize my post, it just doesn't carry much weight coming from you
As for:
- I don't find scum and he pushes a lynch while sitting back happy
- I find scum - he takes credit for 'forcing me to go hunt'

This is pretty much correct.
I'm perfectly happy with my case on you, i think its as good as its going to get on day 1, so unless you change my mind by doing something townie looking, i'm perfectly happy to sit here with my vote on you (unless no-one else goes for it, in which case i switch to rels later).
Although i'm not that interested in credit for forcing you to scumhunt, it'd just be nice to see you trying to help win the game for town.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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