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On August 31 2022 23:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 21:04 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now I could see this being true, for sure. He's doubling down on weird things, repeating stuff others have said, and being pretty ambiguous about much of the other stuff. In fact, I'm adding rels to my vote list. Our chat last night really went nowhere. He didn't even try to get any new information out of me even though he was questioning me about all of his concerns and ended up still at the same point he was before he asked the questions. I'm like I was answering all his questions without being evasive or arguing, why can't he use that to progress his reads, or the game somehow. Instead he's still stuck on rayn's very first post which generated nothing useful? I don't buy it to be honest, and nothing has really changed at all from that interaction, except for i now scumread rels. It advanced my read though! I didn't explicitely say it I guess, but I don't want to vote for you anymore. Your responses could make sense. Also regardless of alignment, it was nice that at least one person was there when I was available to play, less lonely.
Well you started suspicious of me and ended on this:
On August 31 2022 12:12 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 12:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
Meh rels i can't find the game i was thinking of and its 4am here so i'm going to bed. If you want me to post it tomorrow just leave a note here and i will find it. I would like it actually but more to check you than rayn hahaha :p
So that's why I assumed you hadn't progressed.
Which reminds me i've looked at like 6-7 games and I can't find the one i was thinking of. Maybe i was misremembering.
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Jock I understand your points, but posts like these feel pretty genuine. It just, makes sense. Not hard to fake of course for one post, but every interaction dec has feel like that.
On August 31 2022 22:28 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 22:24 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 31 2022 22:21 deconduo wrote:On August 31 2022 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote:While you're here decon: Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia? Just posting was enough - as I said in the original vote it was for 'Posting the bare minimum to not get modkilled' ok thanks. This reads to me like a very shallow way to assign your vote. I was hoping you had some reasoning beyond that for removing your vote tbh. I thought rels' posting last night was hella scummy, as i posted earlier and DI also posted about (and did a better job of it than i did tbh). I never pretended it was anything else. Pretty standard day 1 pressure vote to get inactives active. Active just means posting, I don't expect anyone to instantly write a page of awesome scumhuting. I don't expect everyone to be an awesome scumhunting wizard on day 1. Maybe I just have low standards
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I don't vote to vote dec. Who would you vote if not him? (and not me lol)
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On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.
Why?
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On August 31 2022 23:30 Rels wrote:Jock I understand your points, but posts like these feel pretty genuine. It just, makes sense. Not hard to fake of course for one post, but every interaction dec has feel like that. Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 22:28 deconduo wrote:On August 31 2022 22:24 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 31 2022 22:21 deconduo wrote:On August 31 2022 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote:While you're here decon: Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia? Just posting was enough - as I said in the original vote it was for 'Posting the bare minimum to not get modkilled' ok thanks. This reads to me like a very shallow way to assign your vote. I was hoping you had some reasoning beyond that for removing your vote tbh. I thought rels' posting last night was hella scummy, as i posted earlier and DI also posted about (and did a better job of it than i did tbh). I never pretended it was anything else. Pretty standard day 1 pressure vote to get inactives active. Active just means posting, I don't expect anyone to instantly write a page of awesome scumhuting. I don't expect everyone to be an awesome scumhunting wizard on day 1. Maybe I just have low standards
This is very similar to what you said yesterday about decon and his early jokeposting.
That you agreed with my points but that it felt natural.
Honestly it doesn't really feel natural or genuine to me.
But even if it did, the lack of town thought process is far more telling imo.
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On August 31 2022 23:29 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 23:23 Rels wrote:On August 31 2022 21:04 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now I could see this being true, for sure. He's doubling down on weird things, repeating stuff others have said, and being pretty ambiguous about much of the other stuff. In fact, I'm adding rels to my vote list. Our chat last night really went nowhere. He didn't even try to get any new information out of me even though he was questioning me about all of his concerns and ended up still at the same point he was before he asked the questions. I'm like I was answering all his questions without being evasive or arguing, why can't he use that to progress his reads, or the game somehow. Instead he's still stuck on rayn's very first post which generated nothing useful? I don't buy it to be honest, and nothing has really changed at all from that interaction, except for i now scumread rels. It advanced my read though! I didn't explicitely say it I guess, but I don't want to vote for you anymore. Your responses could make sense. Also regardless of alignment, it was nice that at least one person was there when I was available to play, less lonely. Well you started suspicious of me and ended on this: Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 12:12 Rels wrote:On August 31 2022 12:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
Meh rels i can't find the game i was thinking of and its 4am here so i'm going to bed. If you want me to post it tomorrow just leave a note here and i will find it. I would like it actually but more to check you than rayn hahaha :p So that's why I assumed you hadn't progressed. Which reminds me i've looked at like 6-7 games and I can't find the one i was thinking of. Maybe i was misremembering.
it was more tongue in cheek than anything else
Oh no I shouldn't use that word haha :p
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On August 31 2022 23:31 Rels wrote:
I don't vote to vote dec. Who would you vote if not him? (and not me lol)
The only other person who is ringing alarm bells for me is vivax.
I think both you and dec are scum anyway, so if not him and not you is kind of a moot point!
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lowkey wants to start a HF wagon
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On August 31 2022 23:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 23:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 31 2022 23:23 Rels wrote:On August 31 2022 21:04 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now I could see this being true, for sure. He's doubling down on weird things, repeating stuff others have said, and being pretty ambiguous about much of the other stuff. In fact, I'm adding rels to my vote list. Our chat last night really went nowhere. He didn't even try to get any new information out of me even though he was questioning me about all of his concerns and ended up still at the same point he was before he asked the questions. I'm like I was answering all his questions without being evasive or arguing, why can't he use that to progress his reads, or the game somehow. Instead he's still stuck on rayn's very first post which generated nothing useful? I don't buy it to be honest, and nothing has really changed at all from that interaction, except for i now scumread rels. It advanced my read though! I didn't explicitely say it I guess, but I don't want to vote for you anymore. Your responses could make sense. Also regardless of alignment, it was nice that at least one person was there when I was available to play, less lonely. Well you started suspicious of me and ended on this: On August 31 2022 12:12 Rels wrote:On August 31 2022 12:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
Meh rels i can't find the game i was thinking of and its 4am here so i'm going to bed. If you want me to post it tomorrow just leave a note here and i will find it. I would like it actually but more to check you than rayn hahaha :p So that's why I assumed you hadn't progressed. Which reminds me i've looked at like 6-7 games and I can't find the one i was thinking of. Maybe i was misremembering. it was more tongue in cheek than anything else Oh no I shouldn't use that word haha :p
I thought we'd established that I can't detect that stuff very well!
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On August 31 2022 23:34 Rels wrote:
lowkey wants to start a HF wagon
You do?
Why?
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Slam HF would make sense
HF is making posts just good enough to be townread, not enough for it to be weird to not be NKd
Makes a good case on his teammate, don't really push it. Let the wagons be on other person
When I started to be around I wanted to talk about Slam, then didn't comment when I talked about Slam? I might be wrong about the timing though let's see
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OK, 1h30 between both actually. Probably he just went to sleep.
On August 31 2022 09:12 Holyflare wrote:Can talk about Slam if you want 
On August 31 2022 10:42 Rels wrote:Reading Slam's filter, nothing else really jumps as scum or town. Makes sense, I have a very hard time reading Slam usually. HF on your case, I don't think most of it makes Slam scum. The only thing that does in my mind is the post I've talked about, and yeah maybe the other ones in the same paragraph: Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 00:11 Holyflare wrote:His further posts don't really lead to any kind of evaluation either. He was going to scum read Rayn but remembered Rayn was just bitter as either alignment, he gets into some weird mechanics argument with Dandel in #263 for a while (and actually in this post hesitates in scum reading Dandel?) Then he circularly references his original suspicion in #269 saying he has no scum reads and that maybe Rayn is just mafia after all? It doesn't read like a genuine thought process and I think he was afraid to push too far onto Dandel for fear of repercussions, rather than a genuine intent to solve Dandel's alignment. They also feel kind of fabricated. Less so than the one I've quoted above but a little bit.
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On August 31 2022 23:37 Rels wrote:
Slam HF would make sense
HF is making posts just good enough to be townread, not enough for it to be weird to not be NKd
Makes a good case on his teammate, don't really push it. Let the wagons be on other person
When I started to be around I wanted to talk about Slam, then didn't comment when I talked about Slam? I might be wrong about the timing though let's see
EBWOP:
When I started to be around, he wanted to talk about Slam, then didn't comment when I talked about Slam?
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I'd like to hear from holyflare anyway in general. What he thinks about my opinion on his slam case etc.
Rels I'm sorry to leave you alone in the thread again but i have to go nap i had like 3 hours sleep last night and then a long hospital treatment this morning and its hitting me now.
I'll be back in an hour or so.
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On August 30 2022 22:23 Holyflare wrote:
Playing on MU has ruined this website for me lol.
Also, I've grown and adapted as a human being so take this in full faith that I, as a townie, am doing this with the utmost sincerity because I really liked Koshi's MZ points (yes, this parrots what Rayn is saying above). I just think he extrapolated the read a smidge too far to apply it to copcake and then distracted himself.
##Vote MZ
Bolded is pretty self aware
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On August 31 2022 23:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'd like to hear from holyflare anyway in general. What he thinks about my opinion on his slam case etc.
Rels I'm sorry to leave you alone in the thread again but i have to go nap i had like 3 hours sleep last night and then a long hospital treatment this morning and its hitting me now.
I'll be back in an hour or so.
Hopefully it was nothing too bad  see you!
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???? Actually???? That's not rayn is saying AT ALL?
On August 30 2022 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi top town. I sm not sure if stuff on Cake and MZ makrs them mafia but nevertheless its legit stuff and townie thought process. Esp on MZ he uses very weird narratives in his scumhunting on what he thinks makes people mafia. Pretty sure he got lynched for it as town last game i played with him.
Rayn is saying "Koshi is justified on his MZ scumread. MZ got scumread for that behavior as town too".
On August 30 2022 22:23 Holyflare wrote:
Playing on MU has ruined this website for me lol.
Also, I've grown and adapted as a human being so take this in full faith that I, as a townie, am doing this with the utmost sincerity because I really liked Koshi's MZ points (yes, this parrots what Rayn is saying above). I just think he extrapolated the read a smidge too far to apply it to copcake and then distracted himself.
##Vote MZ
Very same post, HF is totally discarding the info that rayns bought? This doesn't parrot what rayn said, it's the exact opposite??
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On August 31 2022 01:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idunno if you got my post correctly HF. I was saying i dont think what Koshi says (and apparently you now) makes MZ mafia because last time he was lynche for making reads the exact same way as you described and he was towwn. Oh, I know what you said don't worry. I think it's a townie way to shut down a potential future wagon on Koshi. Doesn't mean anything for MZ or Koshi's points on MZ though (although it kinda implies you think Koshi's points are weird or have no merit which I disagree with).
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On August 31 2022 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
Oh wait you mean it's supposed to imply MZ was townie last time and not that Koshi being weird makes Koshi townie???
On August 31 2022 01:03 Holyflare wrote:
Ah, yeah, seems I misread. I retract my townie points on you then :D
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