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Like why would you say this:
On August 31 2022 10:42 Rels wrote:Reading Slam's filter, nothing else really jumps as scum or town. Makes sense, I have a very hard time reading Slam usually. HF on your case, I don't think most of it makes Slam scum. The only thing that does in my mind is the post I've talked about, and yeah maybe the other ones in the same paragraph: Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 00:11 Holyflare wrote:His further posts don't really lead to any kind of evaluation either. He was going to scum read Rayn but remembered Rayn was just bitter as either alignment, he gets into some weird mechanics argument with Dandel in #263 for a while (and actually in this post hesitates in scum reading Dandel?) Then he circularly references his original suspicion in #269 saying he has no scum reads and that maybe Rayn is just mafia after all? It doesn't read like a genuine thought process and I think he was afraid to push too far onto Dandel for fear of repercussions, rather than a genuine intent to solve Dandel's alignment. They also feel kind of fabricated. Less so than the one I've quoted above but a little bit.
And then say to Jock:
"Vivax/DI are too much of a coinflip to lynch."
When there is Chezinu and Slam in the game.
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Lynching/shooting Vivax on D1/N1 is just fucking dumb. We all know the guy is an easy catch later on.
If he is still shitty on N2/D3. Kill him.
Atm he is active enough to leave him alone.
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On August 31 2022 16:23 Koshi wrote:
Atm he is active enough to leave him alone.
Some wisdom on volcanoes here
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I am awake, time to catch up.
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On August 31 2022 05:55 Koshi wrote:Your case on MZ is: 1) His reaction on Deco list was bad 2) He ignored one of your questions. Not saying that is not enough. Just want to make sure.
He calls me mafia and doesn't vote me. He has made "strong" cases (deconduo's and mine), even acts as he has done them, yet not a single vote has been placed.
I have a hard time believing someone would take an early list that seriously, like when it is an obvious joke imo. He doesn't even care or play with the idea of a town deconduo and says he has read other people are convinced that he (deconduo) was just playing but he doesn't play with the idea of a "town deconduo".That is very closed minded.
His first post against me was "copcake posts fluffy stuff" but started to make a case or took it more seriously when someone else (Koshi) started to call me out too. Opportunistic. Even his "reasons" are parroting him "she asks too many questions but doesn't come back with reads"
He also points out the "bitterness" I got thanks to Koshi ( "this is not a question" "this a sentence") as a reason why I am mafia. Budding and pocketing Koshi.
Like for shit like "Tube called me out first of the decon joke" is a very very weak argument too.
And where is his read of "fluff jock spamming"?, I guess because people haven't made a read on him he can copy paste it and make a case.
I wanted to giving him the benefit of the doubt of "too bad to be mafia" earlier but before I went to bed I made up my mind when I was confronting him and he decided to ignore my post.
Now that I have compared his posts with the time of the thread sentiment, makes sense he was mimicking his case on me.
+ Show Spoiler + On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Ok starting where I left off. Firstly, copcake fluff + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote:
Hi Rels, long time no see :D On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote:
Hi Jock, long time no see. On August 30 2022 03:49 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:48 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^ haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015 Oh shit On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth Neo? Is that you? are we ever truly anybody? Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole. Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it. no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch In what way? It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look when ever have you cared about this? always I was just very good at hiding my feelings Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist. On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:
100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia. On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote:
Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent. On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:![[image loading]](https://media.baamboozle.com/uploads/images/145581/1658386256_1767408_gif-url.gif) I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town  Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? Are you saying you are not town? On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb Are you talking of a past game or? On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially. Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list" Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh your last list was better, you fell off It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes. I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much " feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive. Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet? I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself. I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation. You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town. I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers. I want more HF but overall Rels tho. And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time. Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else. Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. Absolutely With this caveat: On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation. I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning. Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list. Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting. So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?" It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment. copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad): Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game! Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me. Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare
Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew
Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi
Chezinu:
Chezinu Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation. You know his list is just a joke, right? And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it. Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it. Tube beats her to the punch here. The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how? Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia! On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing. On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote:
But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong. These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off. I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell. Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
Btw, whenever you are back Ziphh. Did you make something out of reading my past games?
It is a hell of a ride!
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On August 31 2022 10:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 10:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
While we're both here rels let me get to your question Thanks. I have some posts of yours in a separate tab too :p
This is how the kids make each other compliments nowadays, sounding like a barkeeper
On August 31 2022 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How about you read the rest of the game and then get back to us Rels?
I'll never stop enjoying this condescence
On August 31 2022 08:52 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:every single one of his posts is either talking about setup/mechanics/game theory or a hard neutral reads Show me a single post where i ever do this in this game please. i'll bite because ive been trying very hard to not get a big head and think that my first read is guarenteed correct and then confirmation bias every post you made (although your cocky mafia!ryan response was just so so scummy to me) + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb game setup + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? this post is literally just all about setup mechanics with a question about overall game theory at the end + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 05:12 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
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Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? What's the benefit of claiming town? There is none but if someone asks you if you're town you either say "yes" or "that's a dumb question, why are you asking that?". I mean in my opinion those are the only reasonable answers to the question as town, no? more game theory + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2022 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One general thing. I would like if everyone also placed their votes into the game thread as well when they do vote. I am going to have very hard time following the voting thread as well especially near the deadlines this week since i am at work, and it's not once or twice i dont have all the votes correctly because people dont post them here also (i find voting threads idiotic and confusing and just host's way to have less work). game mechanics before you gave reads basically all your posts were branched off of this or questions that werent going to really lead anywhere
Don't be too hard on yourself, it's not your fault that nature can be cruel
But if you complain about it enough there's probably someone in the game who can give you big head
just hope they don't bite like you do
On August 31 2022 08:57 Holyflare wrote:
How's life Mattchew? Missed ya buddy
Found the volunteer
On August 31 2022 09:08 Tubesock wrote:
That's how Rayn scumhunts. He looks at what HE expects people to think or do if they're town and if they don't meet that then he thinks they're mafia. Not sure why he got so triggered just now but meh.
He's not really talking game mechanics like you're saying it.
This is probably how capital I would post as mafia in this situation, consider yourself FoSed, sir
On August 31 2022 08:40 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. What in your opinion Jock did, or how he reacted to that (deconduo's list post)? In a vacuum Jock did nitpick the list. Why I'm not shading Jock for it is fairly simple. He's mentioned several times that he wished people would take their tongue out of their cheek. That day 1 is mostly only good for tone reads and chains of logic hurt his brain. He also basically responded to every single post in the game. He wants the game to be more science and logic based but knows and is being frustrated that it just isn't on day 1. He's lowkey frustrated that it's super hard to figure out day 1. So, I overall townread him for that effort. He's not complaining like a typical scum would, he's trying. So yeah he can nitpick away as I think the motivation is more town based. That being said, if later in the game he falls off then this was an act. MZ on the other hand looks more like he was looking for stuff to find. Which we all do. I so far have disagreed with about everything that I can think of he's said.
Contemplating if MZ was spewed town by this post
On August 31 2022 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also whoever thinks Vivax is town is probably mafia and Vivax is most likely mafia.
Go get em then
On August 31 2022 05:31 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 05:16 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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lol? did you skip HF post on purpose? Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:I'm town Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated The nested quotes are interesting conversations pushing the game forward. You question is super random. You ask who was in the game? Why? On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it? Was wondering why you didn't address this post: On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
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What? But responded to the very next one: On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
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Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else? But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. So did you ask specifically to know HF was in there? If so, why not explain what you thought about HF's reaction? Such passive play. On August 30 2022 05:44 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:35 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
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Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused. He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later) So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting. Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless. I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____ I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back. deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this: On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding. What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo? Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated This game: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafiaThis player list: 1. Alakaslam 2. ShoCkeyy 4. Jockmcplop 3. Grackaroni 5. Tictock 6. Raynpelikoneet 7. Fecalfeast 8. Vivax 9. Hapahauli 10. Trfel Ok, now it makes sense HF's reaction. I assumed he was also in that game. Why did you assume HF was in the game if you didn't know what game it is, and why was your reaction different to HF than to Jock when both of them basically said the same thing about my post at first? I knew there was a game because you complained D:< a lot. I assumed HF was in there for some reason, probably because he is one of the most active players. And HF is/was pulling more of that string, Jock just said "I didn't get it either" and took your smartphone excuse while HF didn't. How did HFs reaction made sense? rayn mistyped and said something incomprehensible. On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb I assume he meant 'this game has a mafia rb that does actually rb. But that doesn't matter. The "What?" from HF was warranted because rayn was talking gibberish. So I still don't know why you asked the player list and didn't just participate with the conversation that was happening right there in the thread. I still don't know why HF reaction was potential scummy (you claimed it would have been scummy if he wasn't in the game) And I still think you invented a reasoning after rayn pressured you about Jock and HF. Can you explain the bolded? I am still curious. I said it would be bad if he was in the game. His reaction to the role block thing seemed like he was shading that rayn "might be scum" for that. If he had knowledge of the game, he would have gotten "the joke". and I needed to be sure if he was there since I misremember things sometimes. But now that I read this, it makes sense his original "what" was for the typo (I didn't consider this) besides not knowing what rayn was talking about (as I did).
This sentence made my brain spaghetti really hard
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On August 31 2022 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake why do you call MZ Zhipp?
How is this relevant?
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Are you getting bussed Vivax? If yes, by how many?
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On August 31 2022 04:33 CopCake wrote:
Ok, I think that Ziphh is mafia now.
He is literally ignoring a post I made in this same page.
Is that alignment indicative?
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On August 31 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2022 21:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube
Neutral:
Rels
Matt
People who are not fun:
Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ
Chezinu:
Chezinu this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh your last list was better, you fell off It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes. I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much " feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive. Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet? I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself. I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation. You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town. I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers. I want more HF but overall Rels tho. And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time. Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else. Looks like we're agreed on vivax, but have opposite reads on MZ and deconduo. Tone reads is all you can realistically have on day 1. Where I struggle is with long chains of logic. They break my brain like proper. On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how? Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia! Ima keep asking questions. Now's the time when we should be asking alot of questions imo as long as they do something useful to the game. On August 30 2022 21:37 Koshi wrote:
Ok then I call Rels, rayn and Hf all 3 mafia. omg this almost makes me want to vote you.
Can people start posting what they actually think and take all of your goddamn tongues out of your cheeks. No. My tongue bleeds merlot, and I have no knife, and I need to be drunk to dull the pain.
You worry me a bit. Hope you're ok
On August 31 2022 02:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw Slam always posts weird stuff, don't read to much into it.
That's the fun part though, I almost died laughing rereading his filter on the MU game where the mafia slaughtered each other
On August 31 2022 02:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 01:35 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 31 2022 01:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also I still don't like decon but multiple people are convinced he's "playful town." I'll have to compare between him and cop and figure out who I dislike more. all i need to read you is an answer to the following: How often do you find yourself shaking a fist at other people? Well palmar isn't in this game so I haven't had to do that yet... usually rayn makes me shake my fist too but we'll see.
Try pulling a gumshoe and swearing on someone that you're town, take cover under a table or a doorframe
##Unvote
I'm giving the mafia some time to aggressively push a mislynch before I activate the death ray
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On August 31 2022 18:42 Koshi wrote:
Are you getting bussed Vivax? If yes, by how many?
I don't know, there's sirens in the streets and furries everywhere, but they didn't find me yet
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Lol it's 4:30am for me and I just got out of a debrief from a flight so I'm smoked but I'll do my best to be active for a bit since I'll probably be asleep for the deadline.
Right now after a first read of the thread I don't think I'm sold on a slam lynch but that's mostly because I have absolutely no idea how to read him. There are people here who swear they can soulread him so more power to them.
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I'll look through the filters of Rels, rayn, and vivax since they've all got votes on them.
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Rels is alive, that's good.
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On August 31 2022 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 07:26 Koshi wrote:On August 31 2022 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So deconduo's 1st page of filter is sarcasm or talking about those posts he made sarcastically. As i already said i find it very counter productive to scumhunting since at least me and Jock wasted some time trying to clarify something that was apparently basically jokes. In addition to that, if you look at the last three games in the database of his, as town he actually tries to scumhunt (useful), as mafia he pretty much posted nothing but setup discussion (useless) on D1.
If deco was really engaged and good in his previous 3 towngames, I am ok with voting him off based on his performance this game. Because this game the reads are pretty shallow and quick drawn. Mafia that can't fake real reads and just quickly calls people town/mafia based on little or thread sentiment. I dont know if he was good or not. What i do know is that when he posts he scumhunts / gives reads as town, not so as mafia: town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/492282-tl-mafia-lxxii-gaiden-2?user=Deconduotown - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=deconduomafia - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/237920-world-at-war-2-mafia?user=deconduoI don't believe people's habits change in 5 or even 10 years as he claims.
My play day 1 here is exactly the same as my play in day 1 in Gaiden. Did you actually read this at all???
TSM I missed most of day 1 (including the fun bits) for IRL stuff. I don't see any particularly deep scumhunting posts from this game and I was lynched day 1 lol.
WAW2 I had no fun stuff. I talked a lot of mechanics . Also I was way more agressive.
You're just making things up at this point. Your entire case is meta from 8 years ago and its not even right. You have nothing from this game at all.
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Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now
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Oh my god vivax is actually terrible lol, I don't even know where to start.
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Rayn is reading the game very similarly to me right now, definitely not ever lynching him today.
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On August 31 2022 12:07 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2022 11:53 Rels wrote:
MZ, I really liked his opening posts basically. Let me see why. Oh yeah, entering the thread with 3 straight scumreads and no townreads. Didn't feel like MZ entered the thread trying to blend in or being townread by the rest of the town. This needs a meta check to stand.
Well, with all games being over 10 years old, it might not be relevant. FWIW I've found this in his very first game in which he was town. Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 12:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hi guys checking in, I think I'll be voting for pandain or bum. His first posts in his 2 scum games don't look like this. But yeah, I think it's too old to be worth something.
I love how you quoted the game from 12 years ago lol, in all honesty I was a teenager with no idea what I was doing... still don't really know what I'm doing but oh well 
Side note I think Pandain did end up being mafia that game.
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On August 31 2022 20:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh my god vivax is actually terrible lol, I don't even know where to start.
All that practice is finally paying off
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