EPTPretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.
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Jockmcplop
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Pretty much. There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them. So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Rels
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On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote: Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so ##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled This is a bad reason to vote me :p | ||
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Rels
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On August 31 2022 11:32 Jockmcplop wrote: Rels why is vivax a good vig target in your opinion, but apparently a bad lynch target as you won't vote for him? I think his flip will be random given what he has posted. He just hasn't started playing. I also think scum!Vivax is pretty easy to catch when given time, town!Vivax is pretty tryhard when he gets starting. In a way scum!Vivax is not able to replicate in my recollection, or at least not during multiple days. To be clear, I'll vote for him over a lot of other people if I had to vote right now. But we still have time before deadline, and I would prefer Slam. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9651 Posts
On August 31 2022 11:37 Rels wrote: I think his flip will be random given what he has posted. He just hasn't started playing. I also think scum!Vivax is pretty easy to catch when given time, town!Vivax is pretty tryhard when he gets starting. In a way scum!Vivax is not able to replicate in my recollection, or at least not during multiple days. To be clear, I'll vote for him over a lot of other people if I had to vote right now. But we still have time before deadline, and I would prefer Slam. Ok so, If Vivax's flip would be random, and you'd vote for him over a lot of other people, that means you read a lot of people as better than random chance of flipping town. Which people? | ||
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Rels
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On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote: Pretty much. There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them. So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me. I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural. | ||
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Rels
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On August 31 2022 11:39 Jockmcplop wrote: Ok so, If Vivax's flip would be random, and you'd vote for him over a lot of other people, that means you read a lot of people as better than random chance of flipping town. Which people? rayn is town. Like, 101% town, it's cheating because it's too easy. I know him very well. Him being frustrated at me and wanting to be modkilled I was not playing when I pushed him to play is extremely real, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't play that card if he was scum as it would be cheating in his mind. There are other stuff, but that's the cheating part. (other stuff: his plan at beginning felt very rayn-like, could have been faked, but the setup wasn't there when I checked when I confirmed 24 hours before the game, so he woulldn't have known there was a possible mafia RB) Koshi is town. Like, 95% town. His opening spray of posts are perfect Koshi, seeing a weird stuff that might make sense, and then jumping from there, sometimes changing his mind ... Koshi is pretty easy to catch as scum I think because he just ... doesn't do that lol. Then the maybe towns: CopCake, the post I highlighted earlier is pretty townie, and what she was being pushed for by Koshi might actually make sense. MZ, I really liked his opening posts basically. Let me see why. Oh yeah, entering the thread with 3 straight scumreads and no townreads. Didn't feel like MZ entered the thread trying to blend in or being townread by the rest of the town. This needs a meta check to stand. HF, pretty good posts overall, and in particular pretty good case on Slam, highlighting the post I hate the most in the game so far. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more. Chez lol. I've never been able to read him. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On August 31 2022 11:53 Rels wrote: rayn is town. Like, 101% town, it's cheating because it's too easy. I know him very well. Him being frustrated at me and wanting to be modkilled I was not playing when I pushed him to play is extremely real, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't play that card if he was scum as it would be cheating in his mind. There are other stuff, but that's the cheating part. (other stuff: his plan at beginning felt very rayn-like, could have been faked, but the setup wasn't there when I checked when I confirmed 24 hours before the game, so he woulldn't have known there was a possible mafia RB) Koshi is town. Like, 95% town. His opening spray of posts are perfect Koshi, seeing a weird stuff that might make sense, and then jumping from there, sometimes changing his mind ... Koshi is pretty easy to catch as scum I think because he just ... doesn't do that lol. Then the maybe towns: CopCake, the post I highlighted earlier is pretty townie, and what she was being pushed for by Koshi might actually make sense. MZ, I really liked his opening posts basically. Let me see why. Oh yeah, entering the thread with 3 straight scumreads and no townreads. Didn't feel like MZ entered the thread trying to blend in or being townread by the rest of the town. This needs a meta check to stand. HF, pretty good posts overall, and in particular pretty good case on Slam, highlighting the post I hate the most in the game so far. OK I've a fairly good idea of where you're at. I would say, however, that I've played with rayn as scum before and he's done exactly this kind of thing (getting upset and threatening to leave the game) on day 1, which in my eyes at least throws a bit of doubt on your reason for townreading him. I don't have a solid read on rayn yet, but i think its worth pointing out. I shall try and go and find this previous game i'm talking about, but my memory is sieve like so it might take me a while. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 31 2022 11:53 Rels wrote: MZ, I really liked his opening posts basically. Let me see why. Oh yeah, entering the thread with 3 straight scumreads and no townreads. Didn't feel like MZ entered the thread trying to blend in or being townread by the rest of the town. This needs a meta check to stand. Well, with all games being over 10 years old, it might not be relevant. FWIW I've found this in his very first game in which he was town. On October 29 2010 12:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hi guys checking in, I think I'll be voting for pandain or bum. His first posts in his 2 scum games don't look like this. But yeah, I think it's too old to be worth something. | ||
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Vivax
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Or at least, it's the only insanity you were able to spot | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Rels
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On August 31 2022 12:00 Jockmcplop wrote: OK I've a fairly good idea of where you're at. I would say, however, that I've played with rayn as scum before and he's done exactly this kind of thing (getting upset and threatening to leave the game) on day 1, which in my eyes at least throws a bit of doubt on your reason for townreading him. I don't have a solid read on rayn yet, but i think its worth pointing out. I shall try and go and find this previous game i'm talking about, but my memory is sieve like so it might take me a while. Sure, I know he can get angry at both alignment to be sure, but the difference there is that he would be manipulating me with unfair reasonning, and I'm pretty certain he wouldn't given our relationship. But I understand that I'm the only one that can understand how that can be true. | ||
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Rels
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On August 31 2022 12:07 Vivax wrote: You thought there was insanity at play, but you haven't seen anything yet Or at least, it's the only insanity you were able to spot did you really recognize a game from a random post? lol | ||
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Rels
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On August 31 2022 12:09 Jockmcplop wrote: Meh rels i can't find the game i was thinking of and its 4am here so i'm going to bed. If you want me to post it tomorrow just leave a note here and i will find it. I would like it actually but more to check you than rayn hahaha :p Have a good night! And I'm also going to bed, I know, it's not as late there ... I have the "I'm a dad now" excuse :p | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 31 2022 04:55 CopCake wrote: There are very specific things that can make me go cynical. And nah, things are pretty cool! On the other hand, if you had ONE shot and want VEST to protect someone, who would those persons be? Vest Jock shoot Tubesock. As of the past I quote. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 31 2022 06:21 Holyflare wrote: I just get the feeling that MZ has called Cop mafia and now everything Cop does is conf biased as them being mafia. I'm pretty sure when he pointed out the "here are the fluff posts I was talking about" he included things after the post where he mentioned it. I also still get the feeling it's a deep bus lol because his read on dec (while not really making much sense and actually is just a huge hedge) is a lot more nuanced and fluent comparatively. Matt looks great, I agree that Tube's post is a big shrug. It's a lot of half hearted words that seem more convincing in tone than the words that are written on the page. The rayn read (Matt's read) is kind of a stretch IMO, at least the activity bit. Activity reads are mediocre and I don't think it's in any way indicative that Rayn's enthusiasm/participation has dropped because I think he'd be keen as mafia to contribute and appear active just as much as he would be as town. Now that I know what Rayn actually meant with his post and he wasn't defending Koshi, it did trend slightly down and I think I agree with the rest of Matt's points (a lot of names thrown out etc). Top read of the game from my perspective currently. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 31 2022 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also whoever thinks Vivax is town is probably mafia and Vivax is most likely mafia. I think vivax is ? And has become harder to read than me. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 31 2022 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes. i need money to buy us a house and other things. #relate Given I live in LA, I need 5 full time jobs to meet the same goal  | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On August 31 2022 07:25 Tubesock wrote: This is actually the best reason to vote someone in the game so far. [b]##Vote: Rels[b] Whoa not true at all lol. | ||
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