• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:30
CET 19:30
KST 03:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book17Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more...
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL? LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone CasterMuse Youtube A new season just kicks off Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread New broswer game : STG-World Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1413 users

[M][T] Personality Mafia: Mini Edition

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Normal
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 17 2020 19:38 GMT
#137
/in

Hi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 17 2020 22:47 GMT
#145
On December 18 2020 06:35 ShoCkeyy wrote:
HF im sad you didn’t make it to the mafia finals


Oh wellllllll :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-07 12:08:27
January 07 2021 11:58 GMT
#207


I'm just here to play mafia, you know?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 07 2021 21:11 GMT
#241
I'm town, rolled a shit role that's basically useless and this game has a n0 lol. If anyone dies this is a travesty.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 07 2021 21:37 GMT
#247
Not saying who I rolled lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 08:08 GMT
#317
I'm about 102% sure wave is mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 09:26 GMT
#319
It's been so long on this forum it actually hurts my eyes to look at. Working on a CSS theme if anyone wants it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 11:19 GMT
#324
If any of you have a CSS editor extension installed feel free to use this:

use this on https://tl.net/forum/mafia/ and https://tl.net/forum (although probably just /forum will work too)
+ Show Spoiler +
body {
background-color: #202225;
}

.pm-border span.submessage a,
.submessage label,
.titelbalk .forummmsg,
a,
b {
color: #dcddde;
}

.ev-feed {
color: #dcddde;
}

.titelbalk {
background-color: transparent;
}

tbody {
background-color: #36393f;
}

section {
background-color: #292a2b;
color: #dcddde;
}

section .quote {
background-color: #42464f;
color: #dcddde;
}

.forumsig {
background-color: #2f3136;
color: #dcddde;
}

#main-content {
background-color: #2f3136;
}

.forummsginfo,
.fpost-postinfo {
background-color: #2f3136;
border-top: 1px white solid;
top: 0px;
}

.forummsginfo {
border-bottom: 1px white solid;
}

.fpost-postinfo {
border-bottom: 1px solid white;
line-height: 28.5px;
}

.fpost-actionable .submessage,
.fpost-postinfo .submessage span {
color: #dcddde;
}

.titelbalk .fpost-username,
.titelbalk .submessage {
color: #8bd1ff;
}

html body div#navwrapper div#main-container div#main-content table#forumtable tbody tr td.fpost div.solid section header.titelbalk div div.forummsginfo div.fpost-username span,
.fpost-userinfo,
.fpost-userinfo span {
color: #dcddde !important;
}

footer {
background-color: #2f3136;
}

.pagination a {
background-color: #36393f;
}

html body div#navwrapper div#main-container div#main-content table#forumtable tbody tr td.fpost div.solid section header.titelbalk div div.forummsginfo div.fpost-username span.userarrow {
background: url(https://www.flaticon.com/svg/static/icons/svg/481/481156.svg);
background-color: white;
}

#main-left-sidebar .sidebar_block .sbcontents {
background-color: #373837;
}

#main-left-sidebar .sidebar_block .sbcontents div a,
#main-left-sidebar .sidebar_block a,
p, span.error{
color: #dcddde;
}

td.sidemenu .ev-live,
.rsb-block {
color: #dcddde;
background-color: #373837;
}

#calendar_mdiv,
.lp-lgblock {
background-color: #383837;
}

td.sidemenu div,
td.sidemenu div a.nounderline {
color: #dcddde;
}

#reply_area {
background-color: #41454c;
color: #dcddde;
}

.postop-cont tbody {
background-color: #797f8c;
}

#reply .forummsginfo {
width: 100%;
}

.titelbalk .fpost-username .tooltip {
background: #41454c;
}

.titelbalk .fpost-username .tooltip a {
color: #dcddde !important;
}

td.lichtb,
td.donkerb {
background-color: #3f4248;
color: #dcddde;
}

a.block_header {
border-left: 1px #cbcfd1 solid;
border-right: 1px #cbcfd1 solid;
}


.spoiler, .spoiler .forummsg{
background-color: #292a2b;
}



use this on https://tl.net/forum/smilies.php

+ Show Spoiler +
.titelbalk a, td, #navwrapper, p, li, .quote {
color: white;
}



It's gonna be a bit janky and stuff will be missed but just let me know if you want anything changed if you do use it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 11:31 GMT
#325
Dandel, you haven't been clear what your role does other than "usurp the host" and throw roles up in the air and maybe give someone a gun. If I dropped a statement that someone could be mafia and I'm quite certain of it (Wave) and other people kind of have too (Yamato), you dismissing it with pointless asides that don't delve into it doesn't give me the greatest faith that you are acting in our best interest.

N0 feels extremely pointless but I guess there's some hidden mechanics in play. I don't really care what happens so I'll claim my role and see if something spicy happens. I'm TicTock, I do things that involve time and you'll find out what that means after the night.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 12:07 GMT
#328
On January 08 2021 20:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
Dandel, you haven't been clear what your role does other than "usurp the host" [yawn]

Maybe, and hear me out here, because that's just what it does.......................................................


Great, that's entirely not specific though, is it? In what capacity do you usurp the host?

I find it extremely improbable that you just flat out replace a host in this game that designed it and knows all the roles so you no longer are able to play. Why would there be a role that stops a player that signed up from playing the game that the host designed? Doesn't make the slightest sense.

Perhaps you have a role where you get to choose a setup from a previous game and that plays out for a day, I had that role in a Greymist game once. That'd be fine if you just said that.

But you usurp the host everyone's alignments are completely re-shuffled and maybe someone gets a gun? Why wouldn't you know what happens if you become the host?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 12:16 GMT
#331
Do you want a better role? Vote for me.
Do you want a better run game? Vote for me.
Did you roll scum and you want to be town instead? (Or the other way around if you're a sick fuck...) Vote for me.*




On January 08 2021 07:19 Tictock wrote:
... ok, didn't expect Dandel's thing to be legit

##Replace Host

My curiosity is peaked, peeked? pecked... pickled


Piqued.


On January 08 2021 07:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
I mean, not gonna lie having hosted and co-hosted with ma boi

##Replace Host

On January 08 2021 13:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
I could take or leave my role honestly.
Dandel gimme something spicy, k?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 14:30 GMT
#357
On January 08 2021 23:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
I mean I don't even really need you to believe me. You'll see it proven in a couple of hours.

It'd just be a lot more useful to everyone involved if I could garner more votes.

Boring people lead to boring games after all.


Ah, yes, we need to vote for you because reasons but we don't actually because it's happening in a few hours anyway. Of course.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 14:59 GMT
#375
On January 08 2021 23:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
On January 08 2021 23:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
I mean I don't even really need you to believe me. You'll see it proven in a couple of hours.

It'd just be a lot more useful to everyone involved if I could garner more votes.

Boring people lead to boring games after all.


Ah, yes, we need to vote for you because reasons but we don't actually because it's happening in a few hours anyway. Of course.

It changes things, that's why I want votes but I can't stop it anymore and some stuff will still happen. Yes,

Did you rot your brain in the last years?


Ah that really crystal clear clarity of your role that you talked about is really shining through after all.

You're the host now right? Don't need to buff you if you can buff yourself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:03 GMT
#378
It's quite obvious that town don't want to vote for dandel because they may lose their alignment. Guess it makes the game too straightforward if Dandel's thing turns out to be hit air.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:05 GMT
#383
On January 09 2021 00:04 Eversince wrote:
The point is..

knowing the mafia team is broken.
If Hapa had the audacity to do it this game is broken.
I don't buy those things because trust you know.

Which makes you scum or severely misinterpreted pm town.


It doesn't really. Not implausible that the game gets rerolled and hapa joins but the fact dandel gets stronger with more votes just means it's either limited to one day or it's not what he says it is.

Either way just don't type what he says and move on. Who is mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:08 GMT
#389
On January 09 2021 00:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Me and tictock
Game solved!


Dunno who you're rping but you're doing a gj of making me not want to play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:16 GMT
#399
On January 09 2021 00:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2021 00:08 Holyflare wrote:
On January 09 2021 00:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Me and tictock
Game solved!


Dunno who you're rping but you're doing a gj of making me not want to play.

I'm calling you out on this.
Why?


You're just being very annoying?

Vitals crap. Bugs me every time someone says it.

Trolling posts.

Telling everyone to "just have fun" instead of critically thinking or talking through the claim or even concluding anything about anyone.

Sarcastically jabbing at my posts when I actually attempt to play.

To name a few.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:23 GMT
#403
On January 09 2021 00:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2021 00:14 Eversince wrote:
To be fair I'd think mafia would want it to happen but not point it out. I think it is in their best interest to make it happen.

That would depend on WHAT exactly is happening though, right? I have 0 clue. Do you?

Apart from this seemingly weird mechanic he activated Dandel Ion put a gigantic spotlight on himself. That is not someting most mafia players want to do.


If it's their role mechanic why would they not?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:30 GMT
#409
On January 09 2021 00:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
And let me be clear it's only the jabbing I'll apologize for because I can't be sure if I'm actually directly interfering with your fun by doing so.

But playing the way you want me to will interfere with mine so kindly and respectfully get bent

Ilu bby


You can do what you want but I only joined because you asked me too and you know my mafia philosophy is try harding.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:30 GMT
#410
To*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 15:57 GMT
#426
##I'mAlreadyTracer

I don't know what this is from but we'll find out. Gl gl Dandel.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 16:02 GMT
#430
On January 09 2021 01:01 GlowingBear wrote:
dandel, here is the problem i have with your ability: how this could benefit YOU and town?
you're simply removing yourself from the game and creating another, in risk of breaking its balance. it doesn't help town. it doesn't help you.
again, you're removing yourself from the game. you don't want to play anymore?


Was Dandel ever playing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 18:25 GMT
#526
I never fake claim.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 21:35 GMT
#554
How can I have like 3 different roles and they all simultaneously be shit??????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 21:46 GMT
#558
The real travesty is that Dandel's day post was edited
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 21:47 GMT
#559
OTHER NEWS:

Holyflare has officially been adopted!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 21:51 GMT
#560
I got a new role from dandel and it's full of weeb shit and he's trying to make me type stuff in the thread without actually saying what any of it does so hard pass
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:17 GMT
#608
On January 09 2021 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Third party. I was TickTock and had to +1 the lynch for 5 times to win and get removed from the game. Special ability was to force a lynch between me and someone else to get a +2 towards the 5/5 if I won.

My new role is town.


Incorrect, I was Tictock.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:24 GMT
#612
On January 09 2021 08:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2021 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 09 2021 07:54 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2021 07:53 ghostofconversion wrote:
On January 09 2021 07:36 yamato77 wrote:
anyway i think eversince might be town for a variety of reasons

i literally have no idea what alignment dandel is anymore this role shit really makes all his activity just about meaningless

GB is among the only people actually scumhunting (even if poorly) so they are almost certainly town

conversion's lame he can die

same with JAT

I like Vivax's limited posting

same with Shockey tho not as limited

not sure why Slam literally only posts that Dandel is mafia


ok yall want to call me lame after inviting me to a game that i barely want to play

im out then c ya

/replace me Dandel or Hapa let Hopeless1der play

bye bye

if this is an impression of me i am upset

Maybe it's HF

Either way I'm amused. You'd better not quit conversion I like you too much


100% holyflare


Can't be me, I don't ask for replacements.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:25 GMT
#614
I can't believe that the roles are shuffled, the writing and commitment to weeb crap is too poor to come from hapa or greymist.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:28 GMT
#616
I think he's mafia but I don't wanna eliminate him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:30 GMT
#619
On January 09 2021 08:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2021 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
On January 09 2021 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Third party. I was TickTock and had to +1 the lynch for 5 times to win and get removed from the game. Special ability was to force a lynch between me and someone else to get a +2 towards the 5/5 if I won.

My new role is town.


Incorrect, I was Tictock.


You're lying. Especially the time manipulation stuff had nothing to do with TTs personality lol.
More likely you were trying to find me.


Or......
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:35 GMT
#622
On January 09 2021 08:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2021 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
On January 09 2021 08:29 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2021 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
On January 09 2021 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Third party. I was TickTock and had to +1 the lynch for 5 times to win and get removed from the game. Special ability was to force a lynch between me and someone else to get a +2 towards the 5/5 if I won.

My new role is town.


Incorrect, I was Tictock.


You're lying. Especially the time manipulation stuff had nothing to do with TTs personality lol.
More likely you were trying to find me.


Or......



There's multiples of a personality.


Or......


While I encourage roleplaying, there are anti-claim mechanics in this game. While players are allowed to post the contents of their role PM's and disclose their "identities", think very carefully before claiming your role-name or powers.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:36 GMT
#623
Tempted to try Dandel's mechanics and see what happens.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:36 GMT
#624
Fuck it.

##Ryū ga waga teki wo kurau!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:39 GMT
#627
Of course I am Dandel, of course I am.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:42 GMT
#632
On January 09 2021 08:42 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2021 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Actually, let me do this:

##Vote: Dandel Ion

we can't lynch Dandel per Hapa's post, GB


Hapa isn't the real host though, didn't you see the blue text?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 08 2021 23:53 GMT
#638
##vote Hapahauli

My new Dandel role has already given me more thread interaction than the 2-3 roles and things I've received from Hapa :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 00:21 GMT
#659
Yamato if you vote hapa we'll be in dandel's game where you aren't being nuked
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 00:33 GMT
#662
Game is already solved tbh. May as well entertain dandel.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 10:15 GMT
#688
Zzzzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 12:41 GMT
#694
What did you do to me? My parents will be mad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 12:42 GMT
#695
On January 09 2021 19:29 justanothertownie wrote:
I think it is pretty clear that we cannot lynch Dandel today as per hapas post. I also don't think we should lynch Hapa as that is clearly dandels win condition regardless of his alignment and I don't see why we should hand that to him and waste a lynch. We should just treat this as a normal day as far as I am concerned.


People that don't want to kill hapa rolled scum in Dandel's regime.

Vote hapa and Jat is free win.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 12:44 GMT
#698
Uh huuuuh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 12:47 GMT
#700
Yamato why did you try and get me to vote wave without voting him yourself?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 12:48 GMT
#701
On January 09 2021 21:45 justanothertownie wrote:
:D
What is the benefit of voting hapa in your opinion again? Kimonos for everyone?


I'm town in both games so I don't really care but the role Dandel gave to me is better than the countless hapa roles I've been given which do basically nothing. Dandel is clearly the better host.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 13:59 GMT
#705
What does getting closer do?

Also, I'd much rather have a vote on hapa than no vote on anyone and not saying who they think mafia is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 16:01 GMT
#725
You actually got a qt made lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 16:10 GMT
#729
Easy then we vote hapa and when dandel becomes host we vote wave. Gg.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 21:56 GMT
#778
##vote waveofshadow

Pretty iconic that wave wants to have fun and enable dandel's mechanic but doesn't want to vote hapa today because reasons™
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 22:08 GMT
#783
I don't know what you want us to do. Beg for votes then confused when you get voted?

Why aren't you voting hapa?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 09 2021 22:14 GMT
#785
GB is mafia btw really obvious
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:01 GMT
#813
On January 10 2021 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
GB is mafia btw really obvious


Why???


You just kind of exist.

Your actually like rolling mafia and so not voting Dandel for host is against the spirit of your alignment.

You drew alignment conclusions on people based on Dandel's words but didn't think that Dandel could be mafia and other people know what his role does because they are mafia. You jumped to them being town (Obi).

You have had little to no interaction with me, something like one post.

You're not interested in solving the slots.

You throw away voted Dandel at the start of the day instead of literally anyone you mafia read.

Even now that people are voting Wave you've had little interest in even commenting on it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:02 GMT
#814
On January 10 2021 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, I'm voting Vivax.


And now you're voting a guy that claimed 3P with a role that is directly countered by someone else in this game and would possibly remove themselves from the game after this night.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:15 GMT
#817
On January 10 2021 12:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 12:01 Holyflare wrote:
On January 10 2021 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2021 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
GB is mafia btw really obvious


Why???


You just kind of exist.

Your actually like rolling mafia and so not voting Dandel for host is against the spirit of your alignment.

You drew alignment conclusions on people based on Dandel's words but didn't think that Dandel could be mafia and other people know what his role does because they are mafia. You jumped to them being town (Obi).

You have had little to no interaction with me, something like one post.

You're not interested in solving the slots.

You throw away voted Dandel at the start of the day instead of literally anyone you mafia read.

Even now that people are voting Wave you've had little interest in even commenting on it.


I didn't think obi was town based on dandel'alignment. I thought he was town to his reaction. In this sense, you and I both agree that nafia would be more inclined to replace the host and town wouldn't.

I didn't comment on WoS because I don't really care tbh. I didn't think he made anything glaringly scummy, nor townie. So, again, I don't care.

Yeah, I'm a bit confused with people's play in this game so I admit I'm not really engaged in solving the slots.

I thought I could vote for Dandel.

Finally, I am not interacting with you because I don't really have a lot to add to your posts + I'm a bit afraid of annoying you LOL


Yes, you thought Obi was town based on his reaction to an player's unknown alignment. If Obi is mafia and Dandel is mafia, would he not have the same reaction?

If you think you can judge Obi's alignment based on that, why don't you judge Wave/Tictock/whoever else voted for Dandel to be mayor?

Why don't you care about voting for mafia? You kinda skipped over the vivax part. Why do you think he's mafia instead of a self-resolving 3P like he claims to be?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:17 GMT
#819
On January 09 2021 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Third party. I was TickTock and had to +1 the lynch for 5 times to win and get removed from the game. Special ability was to force a lynch between me and someone else to get a +2 towards the 5/5 if I won.

My new role is town.

On January 09 2021 07:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2021 07:44 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2021 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Third party. I was TickTock and had to +1 the lynch for 5 times to win and get removed from the game. Special ability was to force a lynch between me and someone else to get a +2 towards the 5/5 if I won.

My new role is town.

well you and HF both claimed ticktock so that's a good laugh


Yeah he might have an assassin type role where he needs to find me.
In which case I'm toast anyway.


Ah, I misread and thought this meant he had a specific person he was against but I think it just means generally.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:21 GMT
#820
Vivax what does +1ing a a lynch mean?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:38 GMT
#824
Not really, you shouldn't care about voting for a 3P who says his wincon involves getting removed from the game by arbitrary mechanics.

Very unlikely mafia makes that claim.

You can put it to the test by fulfilling his criteria each day (for instance making him the second biggest wagon and him voting the counter wagon should give him +3 and thus he will be removed from the game next cycle eod if we do it twice).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:40 GMT
#825
What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.

Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:40 GMT
#826
Why is nobody pushing anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:41 GMT
#827
Whoever rolled me is doing a real shit job of RPing me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:42 GMT
#828
People who are in a QT with wave should own up to it or forever be branded mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 03:54 GMT
#832
On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote:
What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.

Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care?


Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that


Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town???

Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons.

Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 12:17 GMT
#881
You should probably explain why I'm mafia instead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 12:17 GMT
#882
What kind of post is "I'd prefer to focus on conversion" when your vote is on me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 12:20 GMT
#884
I don't know if this place has gone massively downhill (even further) since I last played but aren't people supposed to talk about why they think people are mafia and then push for that person?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 15:18 GMT
#910
On January 10 2021 23:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok I just saw
Basically no good reasoning up until this point, then a few half assed reasons with what seems to be pre-confirmation bias after the fact now that people are questioning it.

The trolly fake swap? Really? Lol

At least Jat you have been engaging.HF and yamato who are on the wagon with you refuse to acknowledge anything I've said, though I suppose if you get the wagon you want you don't care who's on it



What exactly have you said that is supposed to be extremely convincing? That you wanted to have fun and vote Dandel to see what happens but then you didn't want to vote Hapa in case Dandel's thing sticks.

But then you even said you didn't believe Dandel's thing would even stick if you did vote hapa. So why did you continue to not vote hapa to try and remove Dandel from the game if you were so set on a no lynch and thought dandel would win and leave?

Now you've moved on to some new Obi wagon and are just mindlessly telling people to join it for reasons.

If the Dandel game truly doesn't matter and you won't wagon hapa then you would be fine telling us who your mafia QT partners are and what you've talked about so far, right? Especially as you say you were suspicious of them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 15:29 GMT
#911
GB - refused to join wave wagon, cited bs reasons for "oh town can totally do that" without even knowing anything about what wave said

Tictock - refused to join wave wagon, cited that he felt the same as wave for wanting to see what Dandel's thing did and not really wanting to follow through with it:

On January 10 2021 19:23 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote:
What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.

Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care?


Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that


Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town???

Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons.

Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position.


I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia?

I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative.

I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that.


Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things.

Obi - possible worst offender of them all:

On January 09 2021 08:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think conversion is me.
I also don't really think anything that's happening right now matters - I think we just sit and wait until night falls and everything will go back to the way it was.

I vote we no lynch or lynch Vivax, but I'm pretty much hands off today I think.


Wants to default to a 3P wagon or no lynch instead of actively searching to call anyone mafia, thinks that doing nothing will revert the game back to how it was. Seemingly reeks of TMI about Dandel's alignment and then even displays it:

On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are people so convinced dandel is scum?
I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it.


On January 10 2021 13:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also Wave literally claimed scum so this argument seems kind of pointless. The real decision here lies in whether or not we think the game is going to revert back to normal by night or not. I feel like that situation sort of resolves itself and I'd like to know why people have sort of glossed over what I said earlier about it?

GB being scum wouldn't really surprise me that much atm but I don't really understand this argument between either of you.


He even interjects between myself/GB saying he doesn't understand the argument because "the situation resolves itself" which it doesn't because my argument is that Wave is probably mafia from the night before, which Obi even acknowledges here:

On January 10 2021 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@HF are you implying that wave was scum during n0?
That's the gist I got from your post but I wanted to make sure.



Obi seems to know that Conversion's nukes are fake which imo means that he knows:

1) Yamato is town
2) Conversion is also town

I think it's a bit of a stretch to go from seeing a nuke in the thread and assuming it's fake UNLESS you know the alignment of both of those players and use that logic to leap to "why would a townie nuke another townie pointlessly like that unless it's fake"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 15:37 GMT
#914
On January 11 2021 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol
No, not giving up my qt partners Mr fisherman, that's up to them.

And your reasoning above... Is that supposed to make me scum? Laughable.

Why do I have to vote Hapa to believe any of what I said? Just because you want me to because it fits your view of what will go down doesn't mean it fits mine, and doesn't make me scummy at all. Jat is the only person on my wagon who makes even an inkling of sense and its aggravating me
Stop making me post my wife is gonna get mad lol


1) Why is it up to them if you are the diligent townie that doesn't think Dandel's game is real AND you think the people in the QT are suspicious? Pointless.

2) I didn't say you had to vote hapa to believe what you said. I said that you continued to vote no lynch instead of hapa, or anyone else for that matter because ?????

You are being extremely obtuse and anti-town regardless of if you are or not. Just because you put up some facade of bravado and act like everything is supposed to be "oh whoopie these guys are so bad with their lack of reasons to vote me look at me being so good!" It's pathetic.

You want to have fun but you're doing it at the expense of people in the game that want to play mafia. Either out your QT members and be pro town, whittle down all your chainsaw defenders and find mafia or give reasons for people to join this amazing wagon on Obi. Or just continue doing what you're doing and get eliminated.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 15:39 GMT
#915
On January 11 2021 00:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
GB - refused to join wave wagon, cited bs reasons for "oh town can totally do that" without even knowing anything about what wave said

Tictock - refused to join wave wagon, cited that he felt the same as wave for wanting to see what Dandel's thing did and not really wanting to follow through with it:

On January 10 2021 19:23 Tictock wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote:
What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.

Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care?


Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that


Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town???

Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons.

Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position.


I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia?

I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative.

I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that.


Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things.

Obi - possible worst offender of them all:

On January 09 2021 08:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think conversion is me.
I also don't really think anything that's happening right now matters - I think we just sit and wait until night falls and everything will go back to the way it was.

I vote we no lynch or lynch Vivax, but I'm pretty much hands off today I think.


Wants to default to a 3P wagon or no lynch instead of actively searching to call anyone mafia, thinks that doing nothing will revert the game back to how it was. Seemingly reeks of TMI about Dandel's alignment and then even displays it:

On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are people so convinced dandel is scum?
I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it.


On January 10 2021 13:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also Wave literally claimed scum so this argument seems kind of pointless. The real decision here lies in whether or not we think the game is going to revert back to normal by night or not. I feel like that situation sort of resolves itself and I'd like to know why people have sort of glossed over what I said earlier about it?

GB being scum wouldn't really surprise me that much atm but I don't really understand this argument between either of you.


He even interjects between myself/GB saying he doesn't understand the argument because "the situation resolves itself" which it doesn't because my argument is that Wave is probably mafia from the night before, which Obi even acknowledges here:

On January 10 2021 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@HF are you implying that wave was scum during n0?
That's the gist I got from your post but I wanted to make sure.



Obi seems to know that Conversion's nukes are fake which imo means that he knows:

1) Yamato is town
2) Conversion is also town

I think it's a bit of a stretch to go from seeing a nuke in the thread and assuming it's fake UNLESS you know the alignment of both of those players and use that logic to leap to "why would a townie nuke another townie pointlessly like that unless it's fake"

Are you legit calling everyone who didn't vote for me scum?
Go home.


If you can read this wall of text and make it somehow all about you rather than the points I actually raised then you have some kind of ego problem.

Tictock - Logic leap

Obi - Logic leap, assuming of alignments to make those leaps and the typical defend the anti town Dandel by knowing his alignment

GB - completely different from normal GB, actively voting for a 3P that would leave the game if his wincon is fulfilled AND was getting nuked and doesn't put the slightest bit of effort into finding actual mafia

What about those points are about you?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 15:44 GMT
#920
On January 11 2021 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's garbage, and this point I won't concede.
Not playing the way you want is not the same thing as ruining the game for others and I'm annoyed that you would suggest that especially given that I backed off of you before at your request.

Go ahead and eliminate me.


I do not really care if it annoys you.

If you are town, you have a list of people that are mafia that you are in a QT with that you refuse to out. Why would you refuse to out them? Either you're originally mafia and that's fine and that's your wincon or you're town who doesn't think Dandel's thing will come to fruition but then you're playing extremely anti-town.

If you think that the Dandel game could become real then you outed yourself as mafia and that you have a QT with new mafia members. Not only is that extremely anti-town but it's pretty much anti-game and if it did become fulfilled is almost modkillable.

If you want to just have fun and not contribute to anything meaningful, like finding mafia, other than saying "obi is totally mafia guys vote him" without trying to convince us of why and then refusing to engage when I start calling people mafia then that's absolutely on you, not me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 15:45 GMT
#921
On January 11 2021 00:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 00:39 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 00:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2021 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
GB - refused to join wave wagon, cited bs reasons for "oh town can totally do that" without even knowing anything about what wave said

Tictock - refused to join wave wagon, cited that he felt the same as wave for wanting to see what Dandel's thing did and not really wanting to follow through with it:

On January 10 2021 19:23 Tictock wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:54 Holyflare wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:40 Holyflare wrote:
What has happened in this game other than dandel? Literally nothing. Nobody pushing anything, nobody doing anything.

Wave wanted to have fun and told us all off for not voting dandel and now he won't have fun by voting hapa and seeing if something crazy will happen anymore?? Is that not suspicious to you at all? Why do you not care?


Why is that mafia motivated? I see the incongruency, but I dont see why he is mafia for that


Why is there an incongruous thought process if he's town???

Either he's town and miraculously stopped wanting to have fun for (?) reasons.

Or he's mafia and got put in a compromising position.


I enguaged Dandel's thing too and am now not wanting to pursue it to completion. So does that also make me mafia?

I don't think wanting to see what something will do but changing your mind when you get a glimpse of what it is, is alignment indicative.

I doubt any of the Dandel "mafia" would want to claim when everyone seems to be jumping on Wave for doing just that.


Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things.

Obi - possible worst offender of them all:

On January 09 2021 08:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think conversion is me.
I also don't really think anything that's happening right now matters - I think we just sit and wait until night falls and everything will go back to the way it was.

I vote we no lynch or lynch Vivax, but I'm pretty much hands off today I think.


Wants to default to a 3P wagon or no lynch instead of actively searching to call anyone mafia, thinks that doing nothing will revert the game back to how it was. Seemingly reeks of TMI about Dandel's alignment and then even displays it:

On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are people so convinced dandel is scum?
I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it.


On January 10 2021 13:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also Wave literally claimed scum so this argument seems kind of pointless. The real decision here lies in whether or not we think the game is going to revert back to normal by night or not. I feel like that situation sort of resolves itself and I'd like to know why people have sort of glossed over what I said earlier about it?

GB being scum wouldn't really surprise me that much atm but I don't really understand this argument between either of you.


He even interjects between myself/GB saying he doesn't understand the argument because "the situation resolves itself" which it doesn't because my argument is that Wave is probably mafia from the night before, which Obi even acknowledges here:

On January 10 2021 08:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@HF are you implying that wave was scum during n0?
That's the gist I got from your post but I wanted to make sure.



Obi seems to know that Conversion's nukes are fake which imo means that he knows:

1) Yamato is town
2) Conversion is also town

I think it's a bit of a stretch to go from seeing a nuke in the thread and assuming it's fake UNLESS you know the alignment of both of those players and use that logic to leap to "why would a townie nuke another townie pointlessly like that unless it's fake"

Are you legit calling everyone who didn't vote for me scum?
Go home.


If you can read this wall of text and make it somehow all about you rather than the points I actually raised then you have some kind of ego problem.

Tictock - Logic leap

Obi - Logic leap, assuming of alignments to make those leaps and the typical defend the anti town Dandel by knowing his alignment

GB - completely different from normal GB, actively voting for a 3P that would leave the game if his wincon is fulfilled AND was getting nuked and doesn't put the slightest bit of effort into finding actual mafia

What about those points are about you?

YOUR LITERAL FIRST POINTS ABOUT GB AND TICKYOCK ARE REFUSED TO JOIN WAVE WGON


It is not a "first point" and it could be X, Y or Z's wagon. The wagon is irrelevant, the reasoning and logic is all that matters.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 17:35 GMT
#932
On January 11 2021 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@HF - I realized conversion was roleplaying as me, and I don't think anyone would yolo nuke with a real nuke for a nonexistent reason so really the only conclusion to draw was that it was fake.

I also think lynching Vivax is fine if you think the current gamestate isn't real.

I also don't really have a read on dandel either way and I'm not sure why you think otherwise? Like the case on him is objectively bad (that his role makes him mafia) but he really hasn't done anything at all and I'm not sure why that warrants a vote or how people are drawing more conclusions based on that.

I also feel like you should have responded to my post about wave being mafia from n0 before using it as a point simply because I don't feel like your reasoning regarding that has been fleshed out enough, if at all? Even if you think he was, I don't agree with it and would like reasoning as to why.

As for yamato, I actually think he's dropping towards the null category at this point but with the game being the way it is currently, I'm not really sure that even matters.

Honestly I think I mapped out my play today pretty accurately and stand by it. It's not a great strategy per se, but I feel like most of the important stuff happened n0 and most of today is going to be a wash thanks to dandel, and scumhunting based on a few lines early is going to be nigh impossible.


You didn't realise Conversion is roleplaying you. One of my parents is you and neither of them are Conversion.

You don't have a read on Dandel, there is no case on Dandel other than Slam who I think basically said he made it up for RPing purposes. You've been told that already though so I don't know who these other people are that are drawing conclusions on Dandel. Dandel is just as likely to flip mafia as Vivax was (unlikely) but you mentioned Dandel at that point rather than Vivax.

It's just a bit weird for you to defend dandel when he's done absolutely shit all but distract from the game for 2 days.

What was there to respond to your posts about? That wave was mafia from n0? I already made my point clear on why I thought that, his mindset shifted from having fun to being defensive and essentially martyring for votes. Now he doesn't want to out his QT buddies even though he has no belief that Dandel's role continues past this day. Is that pro town?

Why is Yamato dropping to the null category? What's he done specifically?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 17:35 GMT
#933
Are you in the QT with wave?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 18:33 GMT
#959
On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt.


Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did.

At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.'

Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip.

I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically.

There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything.,

I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol



"I hope this isn't real because if wave is scum this game is going to suck."

Why is that a slip? Either it's a typo or he hates you personally and thinks you're bad at mafia. If he's mafia n0 and turns to mafia day 1 why would the game suddenly suck if you're now mafia with him?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 18:36 GMT
#960
On January 11 2021 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt.


Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did.

At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.'

Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip.

I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically.

There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything.,

If anything I think it makes him marginally more townie that he thinks you're gonna out him as mafia when he's "not".

I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol



"I hope this isn't real because if wave is scum this game is going to suck."

Why is that a slip? Either it's a typo or he hates you personally and thinks you're bad at mafia. If he's mafia n0 and turns to mafia day 1 why would the game suddenly suck if you're now mafia with him?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 18:36 GMT
#962
wait wtf where did my words go
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 18:37 GMT
#963
On January 11 2021 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt.


Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did.

At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.'

Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip.

I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically.

There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything.,


I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol



"I hope this isn't real because if wave is scum this game is going to suck."

Why is that a slip? Either it's a typo or he hates you personally and thinks you're bad at mafia. If he's mafia n0 and turns to mafia day 1 why would the game suddenly suck if you're now mafia with him?


If anything I think it makes him marginally more townie that he thinks you're gonna out him as mafia when he's "not".

There it is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 18:42 GMT
#964
On January 10 2021 12:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
Not really, you shouldn't care about voting for a 3P who says his wincon involves getting removed from the game by arbitrary mechanics.

Very unlikely mafia makes that claim.

You can put it to the test by fulfilling his criteria each day (for instance making him the second biggest wagon and him voting the counter wagon should give him +3 and thus he will be removed from the game next cycle eod if we do it twice).


You're right.

On January 09 2021 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Dandel Ion

On January 10 2021 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax




##vote Glowingbear
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 18:43 GMT
#965
Dude doesn't care what's happening.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 19:34 GMT
#982
On January 11 2021 04:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Why is my vote still not being counted dandel? Im not moving my vote until it is. Or maybe lynch hapa and it lynches dandel?


Any time you wanna care about the game state or who we're calling mafia just let us know.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 19:51 GMT
#995
Lol ShoCkeyy mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 20:08 GMT
#1017
##extinguish ShoCkeyy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 20:24 GMT
#1027
On January 11 2021 05:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
##extinguish ShoCkeyy


LMFAO?? What does this even mean?... I knew GB wasn’t mafia, you’re the first to vote for him, then claim I’m mafia. You must be mafia with conversion.


Do you know what mafia players do?

They talk about trivial things like being the "first" to vote for someone that flipped town rather than analysing the reasons. It's fluff content.

You TMId GB massively.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 10 2021 20:56 GMT
#1039
On January 11 2021 05:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I wanna shoot somebodyyy

Something very weird happened here though. Dandel is the one who created our QT and called it the mafia QT.
Surely it's Gb who made it though no? Or Dandel corrupted it somehow? We were definitely not told any of the info in GBs role pm


I presume the gb QT is another mason group idk though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 11:17 GMT
#1206
On January 11 2021 10:25 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things.


This entire paragraph is bullshit. Dandel's thing absolutely had to conclude one way or another literally because Hapa said it would stop N1, I was saying I didn't want to lynch Hapa because it seemed like a wincon for Dandel. I don't see how any of that relates to the fact that people literally called Wave scum for saying Dandel sent him a scum role PM.

I pretty clearly stated that I wanted to see where Dandel's thing went N0, but seeing were it went D1 decided not to play along anymore since I didnt want to waste a cycle giving Dandel his wincon.

This feels like HF setting up fake dichotomies, claiming "he has to be one or the other" when that is simply not true. This is similar to saying "You either believe in my God or you believe in nothing, I don't see any other answer as valid"

On January 11 2021 10:27 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol
No, not giving up my qt partners Mr fisherman, that's up to them.

And your reasoning above... Is that supposed to make me scum? Laughable.

Why do I have to vote Hapa to believe any of what I said? Just because you want me to because it fits your view of what will go down doesn't mean it fits mine, and doesn't make me scummy at all. Jat is the only person on my wagon who makes even an inkling of sense and its aggravating me
Stop making me post my wife is gonna get mad lol


1) Why is it up to them if you are the diligent townie that doesn't think Dandel's game is real AND you think the people in the QT are suspicious? Pointless.

2) I didn't say you had to vote hapa to believe what you said. I said that you continued to vote no lynch instead of hapa, or anyone else for that matter because ?????

You are being extremely obtuse and anti-town regardless of if you are or not. Just because you put up some facade of bravado and act like everything is supposed to be "oh whoopie these guys are so bad with their lack of reasons to vote me look at me being so good!" It's pathetic.

You want to have fun but you're doing it at the expense of people in the game that want to play mafia. Either out your QT members and be pro town, whittle down all your chainsaw defenders and find mafia or give reasons for people to join this amazing wagon on Obi. Or just continue doing what you're doing and get eliminated.


This post is the same shit.


On January 11 2021 10:35 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +

If you think that the Dandel game could become real then you outed yourself as mafia and that you have a QT with new mafia members. Not only is that extremely anti-town but it's pretty much anti-game and if it did become fulfilled is almost modkillable.


Same shit here, Why is it not valid for it to be possibke for Dandel's stuff to be real but not want it to be?

Didn't you(HF) also post that the Dandel mafia not outing themselves makes them scum? But here you say doing that is anti-town?

Like wtf is your logic HF?


On January 11 2021 10:36 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 12:42 Holyflare wrote:
People who are in a QT with wave should own up to it or forever be branded mafia.



If you are in the QT and you believe that the Dandel thing is going to happen, you don't claim mafia in the thread or out members of it, do you?

Wave either believes it's happening, in which case he would be modkilled for outing himself as mafia AND Obi eventually and Wave knows this.

Or:

Wave thinks (or knows) the Dandel thing isn't real. Therefore, Wave should have no problem outing members of his QT, especially if he thinks they are acting suspicious. Which is a ridiculous premise anyway because Wave's only reason for scum reading Obi is from the QT so he would have had to out that reasoning eventually. Which pretty much means that all his bluster about not revealing was a facade.




Don't know why you can't really understand my other posts either (and Slam apparently).

You believe that the Dandel game is coming to fruition => you don't out yourself, you are mafia.

You don't believe that the Dandel game is coming to fruition => you don't out yourself or talk about wave being the top wagon for what reason? If you were originally town and didn't believe the Dandel thing was happening, you're playing anti-town.

You don't know whether the Dandel thing is coming to fruition => Wave has claimed he is mafia in it and that's he's got two other people in it => you should be very mad at wave and request a modkill from the host OR draw a conclusion from wave outing that he KNOWS there will be no repercussions and then tell the thread that

So, the people in the QT either willingly witheld information, which is anti-town. Were unsure of Wave being town or not (but none of them have even hinted at following through with any kind of information like that) or thought they were going to flip mafia and were complacent doing nothing.

I use a lot of rhetoric and you know I do that. There is no false dichotomy, there is no forever branding someone mafia (did we eliminate wave for example? No.)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 11:18 GMT
#1207
I liked the yamato post. Don't know why he thinks I counterclaimed vivax though, I claimed first.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 11:22 GMT
#1208
I still think there's a bigger than 50% chance wave is mafia and knew that the Dandel thing would not happen (whether because he's mafia with Dandel or assumed because Dandel is not mafia). I don't think he goes around threatening to ruin the entire game without that knowledge.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 12:02 GMT
#1213
On January 11 2021 20:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 20:22 Holyflare wrote:
I still think there's a bigger than 50% chance wave is mafia and knew that the Dandel thing would not happen (whether because he's mafia with Dandel or assumed because Dandel is not mafia). I don't think he goes around threatening to ruin the entire game without that knowledge.


There’s still a 50% chance GB can come back from the dead. You know the guy you just lynched.


I was wrong. So what?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 12:39 GMT
#1216
On January 11 2021 21:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 21:02 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 20:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 11 2021 20:22 Holyflare wrote:
I still think there's a bigger than 50% chance wave is mafia and knew that the Dandel thing would not happen (whether because he's mafia with Dandel or assumed because Dandel is not mafia). I don't think he goes around threatening to ruin the entire game without that knowledge.


There’s still a 50% chance GB can come back from the dead. You know the guy you just lynched.


I was wrong. So what?


What makes you not think you’re wrong on wave?


Because I choose to believe that Wave is probably not a dick and wouldn't chance ruining game integrity.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 12:53 GMT
#1218
On January 11 2021 21:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 21:39 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 21:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 11 2021 21:02 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 20:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 11 2021 20:22 Holyflare wrote:
I still think there's a bigger than 50% chance wave is mafia and knew that the Dandel thing would not happen (whether because he's mafia with Dandel or assumed because Dandel is not mafia). I don't think he goes around threatening to ruin the entire game without that knowledge.


There’s still a 50% chance GB can come back from the dead. You know the guy you just lynched.


I was wrong. So what?


What makes you not think you’re wrong on wave?


Because I choose to believe that Wave is probably not a dick and wouldn't chance ruining game integrity.

I already explained as well why there was basically no way that game got ruined anyway.

I'm not going to defend myself again against you when you yourself randomly took everyone off my lynch to mislynch GB

Also I'm not a huge fan of using potential mod info for this sort of thing but it kinda played out that way.


I mean, you didn't explain that. We could have all magically started voting hapa and confirmed you mafia and you ruined a potential game for two other people. So, there's that.

I don't see what me taking people off you to vote GB has anything to do with it.

You're also being very granular, this is nothing to do with you. It's Shockey that's asking me a question and you should be grilling him for potentially your alignment and chainsaw defending you (as well as already doing that for GB).

Why is he even aggrevated that we voted GB?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 12:53 GMT
#1219
grilling him for potentially knowing your alignment*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 13:08 GMT
#1221
On January 11 2021 21:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 21:53 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 21:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 11 2021 21:39 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 21:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 11 2021 21:02 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 20:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 11 2021 20:22 Holyflare wrote:
I still think there's a bigger than 50% chance wave is mafia and knew that the Dandel thing would not happen (whether because he's mafia with Dandel or assumed because Dandel is not mafia). I don't think he goes around threatening to ruin the entire game without that knowledge.


There’s still a 50% chance GB can come back from the dead. You know the guy you just lynched.


I was wrong. So what?


What makes you not think you’re wrong on wave?


Because I choose to believe that Wave is probably not a dick and wouldn't chance ruining game integrity.

I already explained as well why there was basically no way that game got ruined anyway.

I'm not going to defend myself again against you when you yourself randomly took everyone off my lynch to mislynch GB

Also I'm not a huge fan of using potential mod info for this sort of thing but it kinda played out that way.


I mean, you didn't explain that. We could have all magically started voting hapa and confirmed you mafia and you ruined a potential game for two other people. So, there's that.

I don't see what me taking people off you to vote GB has anything to do with it.

You're also being very granular, this is nothing to do with you. It's Shockey that's asking me a question and you should be grilling him for potentially your alignment and chainsaw defending you (as well as already doing that for GB).

Why is he even aggrevated that we voted GB?

Ok, I am not following entirely. Why would Wave only out this as mafia again? I mean he would be ruining the game as either alignment if Dandel kept being the host, right?

That aside GB was a decent lynch with the information we had. People who claim that he wasn't are either talking out of their ass or have more information than I do.


If Wave is town, he has no idea whatsoever what is happening, he's just been potentially made mafia. Then he randomly decides to out his QT that could become true and ruin the game. Very big gamble to just assume that Dandel's thing will likely not happen, no?

If Wave is mafia and Dandel is mafia, then Wave knows that he has nothing to worry about and can freely out his QT people, himself and whatever with no consequences of being modkilled or ruining the game (kind of the scenario I'm toying with the most here)

If Wave is mafia and Dandel is town/3P then Wave takes a gamble that this power either comes into fruition in which case he's still mafia or it doesn't happen, in which case he gets credit for outing that he's "mafia". Why would wave gamble the entire game on a guess instead of waiting and seeing what happens?

The likeliest scenario is that Wave knew what happens with the power and adjusted accordingly. I don't think he's a dick and I really don't think he'd chance ruining the game on the off chance that Dandel's power didn't happen. Even if he thought we'd have to eliminate Hapa for Dandel to come into power then he's STILL ruining the game potentially if we did vote hapa.

So, it makes me think the way more likely scenario is that Dandel and Wave are either mafia together and Wave knew what was going to happen or that Wave is mafia and knew that the power wouldn't fundamentally alter the game and maybe he'd get a little credit for outing himself as "mafia".
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 13:13 GMT
#1223
Yeah, but I know both of your personalities :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 13:29 GMT
#1231
On January 11 2021 22:19 yamato77 wrote:
I was pretty sure from the start of the day that dandel's game was bs hf


You have literally no way to know that. Being smart is irrelevant. From a person's perspective it could easily be if hapa won we'd be in dandel's game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 13:48 GMT
#1244
On January 11 2021 22:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 11 2021 22:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't think we should be talking about me though
I'll look into... Who, shockey?
At work today so will be sporadic

We should absolutely be talking about you. If you are mafia then the lynch yesterday is a lot more important than if you are town. Your alignment is a crucial piece of the puzzle.

I mean not from my perspective.
If we want to lynch Dandel I'm totally fine with that based on role alone, it seems pretty anti town, but I don't think there's anything else to learn from my perspective on the 'alignment change' despite the fact that hf thinks he nailed the scum team

I'm way more inclined to listen to anything yamato has said than HF because so far everything hf has said has been completely wrong


What exactly have I said that's been wrong?

If you are town then everyone that dodged your wagon and gave TMI is exactly who I called out?

You want to look into Shockey, who I'm calling mafia.

If you are town and you wanted to potentially ruin the game just so you wouldn't be a vanilla role (even though I am essentially a vanilla role in hapa's game) then I have absolutely 0 respect left for you. I choose to not believe that world.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:01 GMT
#1256
Dandel can you confirm whether eliminating hapa would have made the game become true or not? Don't see why you'd hide the info until tomorrow.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:10 GMT
#1259
On January 11 2021 23:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Dandel can you confirm whether eliminating hapa would have made the game become true or not? Don't see why you'd hide the info until tomorrow.

No, my game was never going to continue, I just wanted to give some sort of reason as to why you should vote him.

Apart from for the lulz, as this game has a critical lack of lulz players.


I didn't mind TT's posts on HF off the top of my head, they made sense and stuff. Otherwise mostly forgettable, but there was a bad one. I'll find it D2 if nobody brings it up until then.


Would you have been removed from the game if we did?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:11 GMT
#1262
You should have made everyone in your game town and then you could have outed all the mafia that suddenly wanted to vote hapa
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:11 GMT
#1263
I think Vivax is probably mafia then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:12 GMT
#1264
2 3Ps that get removed from the game potentially d1/d2 in a 13 player game means the game would be over at day 2 basically.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:13 GMT
#1266
Hmmm could also make dandel mafia idk. Will ponder.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:16 GMT
#1269
On January 11 2021 23:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
2 3Ps that get removed from the game potentially d1/d2 in a 13 player game means the game would be over at day 2 basically.

?

At the earliest he is removed after d4 though?


3 vs 2 vs 8

one ml and one nk and you getting removed from the game day 1 = a day 2 that's:

3 vs 1 vs 6

one ml one nk and vivax removed from the game

3 vs 0 vs 4

that's without any other kp (which we know GB's qt stuff provides) and any other nuke so game could even be over sooner than d3 at that rate
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:17 GMT
#1270
The # of mafia and mafia KP are not public knowledge.


zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:17 GMT
#1271
if it's 1-2 it's shitty to even find them if it's 4 or more it's bad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:21 GMT
#1274
On January 11 2021 23:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 23:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 23:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 11 2021 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
2 3Ps that get removed from the game potentially d1/d2 in a 13 player game means the game would be over at day 2 basically.

?

At the earliest he is removed after d4 though?


3 vs 2 vs 8

one ml and one nk and you getting removed from the game day 1 = a day 2 that's:

3 vs 1 vs 6

one ml one nk and vivax removed from the game

3 vs 0 vs 4

that's without any other kp (which we know GB's qt stuff provides) and any other nuke so game could even be over sooner than d3 at that rate

Vivax claimed he needed 5 points, being on a lynch gave him 1 and using his glad ability 2.

At the earliest he can win and be removed by d4.

from the way my role works I think it sounds like around d4/n4 is the point where the game is supposed to end so it makes a lot of sense to me.


He gets 2 points for being on the counter wagon and one point for voting a leading wagon and needs 5 to leave. If he gets 3 points a day then he leaves d2. If he can only get 2 then he leaves day 3.

I guess it could maybe be legit that there's 2 3Ps but we'll see when you full reveal I guess.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:32 GMT
#1279
On January 11 2021 23:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 23:21 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 23:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 11 2021 23:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 23:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 11 2021 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
2 3Ps that get removed from the game potentially d1/d2 in a 13 player game means the game would be over at day 2 basically.

?

At the earliest he is removed after d4 though?


3 vs 2 vs 8

one ml and one nk and you getting removed from the game day 1 = a day 2 that's:

3 vs 1 vs 6

one ml one nk and vivax removed from the game

3 vs 0 vs 4

that's without any other kp (which we know GB's qt stuff provides) and any other nuke so game could even be over sooner than d3 at that rate

Vivax claimed he needed 5 points, being on a lynch gave him 1 and using his glad ability 2.

At the earliest he can win and be removed by d4.

from the way my role works I think it sounds like around d4/n4 is the point where the game is supposed to end so it makes a lot of sense to me.


He gets 2 points for being on the counter wagon and one point for voting a leading wagon and needs 5 to leave. If he gets 3 points a day then he leaves d2. If he can only get 2 then he leaves day 3.

I guess it could maybe be legit that there's 2 3Ps but we'll see when you full reveal I guess.


Am I missing another part of his claim? I'm going off this which, again, d4 at the earliest.
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2021 18:16 Vivax wrote:
On January 10 2021 12:21 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax what does +1ing a a lynch mean?


I need to be on the wagon with the most votes at the end of the day, then I get a point towards my wincon of 5 points. If I duel someone in the first phase of the day the lynch is between us two and if I survive I get +2 instead. Can only do this once. I'm essentially a shitty survivor who has to do something.

And I just want to note I heavily empathize with his last sentence there.


Oh, I thought it was a philosophical duel, not an ability. Okay, I believe it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:35 GMT
#1281
On January 11 2021 23:34 yamato77 wrote:
I could realistically see 2v2v9, a possibility HF discounts out of hand.


I believe in the power of the hosts to not make it dumb to find mafia on a 2 person team. It's more likely to be three based on the nature of the QTs being 3 people imo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:37 GMT
#1282
Could well be 2 who knows
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 14:40 GMT
#1288
I can't die because then mafia will lose.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 16:56 GMT
#1313
Shockey doesn't even seem like a real person
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 18:22 GMT
#1356
On January 11 2021 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On January 11 2021 04:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Why is my vote still not being counted dandel? Im not moving my vote until it is. Or maybe lynch hapa and it lynches dandel?


Any time you wanna care about the game state or who we're calling mafia just let us know.


I mean I called conversion mafia a while back, before anybody did. Soo I’m way ahead of you. Are you not reading? Or chose to read only the few last pages before you actually started participating.



On January 11 2021 04:36 (24 mins before deadline?) ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote Dandel Ion



On January 12 2021 02:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
In all honesty, I was going to change my vote to HF but did not get back in time to do so.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 19:30 GMT
#1365
On January 12 2021 04:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Who should I use my ability on guys?
I don't know what it's going to do


If you received a gun at the end of last day, that was me.
Which would mean that you got it from one of Dandel's role abilities.


You sent a potential gun to wave? Wtf.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 19:57 GMT
#1369
Mama and papa I think you guys need to have a chat
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 20:22 GMT
#1385
##vote ShoCkeyy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 20:25 GMT
#1390
On January 12 2021 05:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy


Of course mafia mad I caught him.

##vote HolyFlare


I'm confirmed town thanks
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 21:01 GMT
#1432
On January 12 2021 05:54 Tictock wrote:
##vote HolyFlare


So you have chosen death
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 21:11 GMT
#1445
I'm in like a thousand QTs and only one of them is mafia chat
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 21:39 GMT
#1473
On January 12 2021 06:38 Tictock wrote:
Oops copied the wrong tabs URL

My Actual Case


How can conversion be mafia when he's dead?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 22:56 GMT
#1523
On January 12 2021 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Also HF seems sure I am mafia. And Eversince, JAT- can you tell me if the QT has some power?


??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:01 GMT
#1529
On January 12 2021 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Also HF seems sure I am mafia. And Eversince, JAT- can you tell me if the QT has some power?


why have you asked 2 of the 3 people not in the qt if the qt has some power?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:05 GMT
#1533
On January 12 2021 08:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
On January 12 2021 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Also HF seems sure I am mafia. And Eversince, JAT- can you tell me if the QT has some power?


why have you asked 2 of the 3 people not in the qt if the qt has some power?

Read what Wave asked me in there


he didn't ask you anything?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:21 GMT
#1542
On January 12 2021 08:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 07:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Also HF seems sure I am mafia. And Eversince, JAT- can you tell me if the QT has some power?


HF also seems sure I'm mafia too. First to vote GB now first to vote me, another town. HF is 100% mafia, guy is gunning for all the town immediately.

If he thinks we're both mafia, then we must be in a team Slam... Lets team it out together on our TL Mafia Discord Server QT cause that's the only QT we got together.


If you're roleplaying as someone in this game you're doing a pretty bad job of it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:44 GMT
#1546
Yamato is suspicious as fuck. More info later.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:49 GMT
#1549
On January 12 2021 08:48 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
Yamato is suspicious as fuck. More info later.


How much do you think Slam fears you?


Don't really care.

Yamato scum stocks have skyrocketed. I have great information. Huge information. Time to invest.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:54 GMT
#1551
On January 12 2021 08:54 Tictock wrote:
Did you vote him because of the claim?


Slam? I voted him to check how many votes I got
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:56 GMT
#1553
I need someone to own up if they targeted me with some reversing power please.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2021 23:56 GMT
#1554
This could save a townie's life.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:09 GMT
#1557
I got 1 vote!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:09 GMT
#1558
On January 12 2021 08:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 07:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 12 2021 07:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Votecount:

Shockeyy (12) - Holyflare, Justanothertownie, WaveofShadow, Yamato77
Holyflare (3) - Shockeyy
Tictock (2) - Conversion, Dandel Ion
Conversion (1) - Tictock





With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Currently Shockeyy is set to be lynched.

until end of Day 2.



Guys why is there 12 votes on me...


Alright no one decided to bite, but yea, my only ability this game is to increase vote count on either who i vote, or by voting me. I don't think this ability would ever be given to a mafia member.


ah I see
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:27 GMT
#1563
On January 12 2021 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ps HF I already know what you're doing, stop it, it's dumb


I legitimately don't know what on earth you are talking about.

Seriously, not a joke, I actually don't know what you think you're talking about.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:31 GMT
#1566
On January 12 2021 09:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually wait. This may be something completely different to what I thought. Did you use a power on yamato?


Yes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:37 GMT
#1570
I'm just waiting on someone else to confirm something to me before I out it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:40 GMT
#1571
At the current rate of response though I wouldn't hold your breath for a reply any time soon :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:43 GMT
#1573
Allegedly nobody used anything on me, which is why yamato is sus af.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:45 GMT
#1579
On January 12 2021 09:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Just tell me what you did.
I think I know what's coming but there is an annoying voice in my head saying you're scum for it even though it's almost certainly wrong


I still have legitimately no idea what you're talking about. My reasoning is way too contrived to ever ever come from mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:46 GMT
#1581
On January 12 2021 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
He needs to say what he did to you for me to understand what I did


I did things to several people.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:47 GMT
#1582
Please just tell me if you visited myself or yamato, wave.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:50 GMT
#1586
I don't understand what's holding you back from saying what you did to yamato. Everything I've done to him... and others is documented in a QT so I can't suddenly change what I did.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:50 GMT
#1587
I cannot claim until a person gets back and confirms whether the power happened to them too or not.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:51 GMT
#1588
I don't trust you either so I am not gonna reveal so you can piggyback off of it so you need to out yourself first.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:52 GMT
#1590
On January 12 2021 09:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright that's fine
I don't want to claim yet for a dumb reason that I'll make clear later
But I will after you do.
I think we may all be confirmed town (I hope)


uhhhhhh huuuuhhhhhh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:53 GMT
#1592
On January 12 2021 09:44 yamato77 wrote:
Wave claim now

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:53 GMT
#1593
yamato knows what I did to him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:54 GMT
#1596
zzzzzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:55 GMT
#1598
On January 12 2021 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot claim until a person gets back and confirms whether the power happened to them too or not.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:56 GMT
#1599
Please tell me the exact wording of "gets reversed"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 00:59 GMT
#1605
I targeted 3 people with a QT (one of which is yamato) so apparently the reverse of yamato is literally everyone else in the god damn thread.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:00 GMT
#1607
On January 12 2021 09:59 yamato77 wrote:
He literally didn't believe I was town over this in a themed game

HF you outed yourself and Wave and me for this stupidity


And that's a negative because?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:00 GMT
#1608
I am almost positive we can just break the game by full claiming either way.

You also haven't even outed yourself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:01 GMT
#1609
Let me just be clear. This does not clear yamato in any way. Odds are he's town but not for any of this power stuff.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:02 GMT
#1610
Don't particularly care if I'm outed anyway. Giving people QTs to heal that I can't even be a part of myself is the shittest power.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:03 GMT
#1611
We CAN collectively protect 1 person in the big QT though and mafia know they can't target that person (unless mafia is exactly eversince jat and yamato lol) unless they have some 2kp fuckery.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:04 GMT
#1613
On January 12 2021 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
We CAN collectively protect 1 person in the big QT though and mafia know they can't target that person (unless mafia is exactly eversince jat and yamato lol) unless they have some 2kp fuckery.

Or kill someone....


??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:05 GMT
#1615
plz don't tell me this is an hp game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:05 GMT
#1616
On January 12 2021 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
On January 12 2021 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 12 2021 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
We CAN collectively protect 1 person in the big QT though and mafia know they can't target that person (unless mafia is exactly eversince jat and yamato lol) unless they have some 2kp fuckery.

Or kill someone....


??

My power plus protection =


ah I suppose that's true but then maybe they'll bus drive you if they have one
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:06 GMT
#1618
By the way, I know that I was targeted by absolutely nobody last night (unless mafia have undetectable powers in which case fuck this) so it's likely mafia targeted someone else (probably yamato) and they actually took damage instead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:10 GMT
#1620
On January 12 2021 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 10:06 Holyflare wrote:
By the way, I know that I was targeted by absolutely nobody last night (unless mafia have undetectable powers in which case fuck this) so it's likely mafia targeted someone else (probably yamato) and they actually took damage instead.

That's not how it works. KP on him turns into protection as I understand it


oh boring
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:11 GMT
#1621
should probably vote dandel or something
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:14 GMT
#1624
On January 12 2021 10:13 yamato77 wrote:
No we should kill Shockey


you don't wanna kill the guy that has kp?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:17 GMT
#1625
If shockey is mafia and activated a power that makes all votes on him count as 3 instead of 1 when he knew he was likely to get voted then I question the entire mafia team's intelligence tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:18 GMT
#1626
Unless his strategy was literally to say "look at me this is such a good town power" to try and escape the wagon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:23 GMT
#1628
probably
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:25 GMT
#1631
On January 12 2021 10:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
If shockey is mafia and activated a power that makes all votes on him count as 3 instead of 1 when he knew he was likely to get voted then I question the entire mafia team's intelligence tbh.


What if I'm not mafia?... Why would mafia ever claim my power in this situation? If anything that makes me a target N2.


Pretty sure I've had the same power as mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 01:57 GMT
#1646
On January 12 2021 10:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
If by some chance you are actually town you should try harder to find mafia. Conversion is not it.


I already did find, I think it's between

HF, Dandel and Conversion, and I've stated it multiple times.


So you think I give random people QTs with healing powers as mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 02:26 GMT
#1650
On January 12 2021 11:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 11:13 yamato77 wrote:
On January 12 2021 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why is obi not scum again?

Bigger fish to fry Wave

It's majority lynch and Shockeyy's power might be more than he's letting on


Oh god you did this last game I played with you and I got lynched and was town. Here you are doing the same exact thing again. Open your eyes mate.

[image loading]


You're the bad guy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 02:55 GMT
#1659
Personally I don't like how he's posted and he hasn't posted anything useful.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 02:58 GMT
#1660
"Shockey is member of 2 QTs"

Can you explain this message I received?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 03:03 GMT
#1662
Ah my mistake I suppose the host is wrong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 03:03 GMT
#1663
Oh wait...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 03:04 GMT
#1665
On January 12 2021 12:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 12:03 Holyflare wrote:
Oh wait...


Or you’re bullshitting.


Nobody visited me last night. Yamato can confirm this.

Unless you're in a qt you don't know about I'd say you're likely 95% mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 03:06 GMT
#1666
OK I'll admit it says "your target is in 2 QTs" but then that means that you got bussed and the only reason someone would bus you is if you're mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 03:09 GMT
#1668
Unless there's an 11,000 IQ imposter among us that bussed you with an actual mafia in the hopes someone would check you and get a red check or something. But I doubt that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 12:06 GMT
#1688
On January 12 2021 12:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 10:57 Holyflare wrote:
On January 12 2021 10:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 12 2021 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
If by some chance you are actually town you should try harder to find mafia. Conversion is not it.


I already did find, I think it's between

HF, Dandel and Conversion, and I've stated it multiple times.


So you think I give random people QTs with healing powers as mafia?

I just want to point out it would have been selected people KP if it had worked right.


Why do you say this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 12:10 GMT
#1690
On January 12 2021 21:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 21:06 Holyflare wrote:
On January 12 2021 12:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 12 2021 10:57 Holyflare wrote:
On January 12 2021 10:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 12 2021 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
If by some chance you are actually town you should try harder to find mafia. Conversion is not it.


I already did find, I think it's between

HF, Dandel and Conversion, and I've stated it multiple times.


So you think I give random people QTs with healing powers as mafia?

I just want to point out it would have been selected people KP if it had worked right.


Why do you say this?

Ah, so that was reversed too? wow


No, it wasn't. I'm wondering why slam is implying it was though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 12:15 GMT
#1692
"oh no he was bussed"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 12:16 GMT
#1693
Don't particularly mind voting dandel tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 12:17 GMT
#1694
For a game that says it has anti name claim mechanics there's sure been a lot of name claiming with no repercussions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 12:19 GMT
#1695
Also in a game with so many apparent checks on QTs and KPs (and apparently parity cops) I presume mafia would have some way to fuck with it and dandel isn't an unlikely target to be checked.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 12:36 GMT
#1698
On January 12 2021 21:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
For a game that says it has anti name claim mechanics there's sure been a lot of name claiming with no repercussions.

Did we claim names? I know I didnt


Both vivax and dandel claimed names. I did too at some point. Think there's been another idk.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 15:51 GMT
#1703
On January 13 2021 00:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
For a game that says it has anti name claim mechanics there's sure been a lot of name claiming with no repercussions.


Scummiest post of the day award?

Usually it‘s mafia who gets pissy about claims while town is happy to know more.


It makes me think you both are either mafia or fake claiming your names.

Nice 0 level analysis though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 15:53 GMT
#1704
I really dislike hp mechanics it just stifles all the information we're supposed to get from NKs. Unless it's not hp mechanics and it's just been a series of unfortunate events for mafia in which case carry on.

Pretty sure it's hp mechanics though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 16:12 GMT
#1709
On January 13 2021 01:01 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 12 2021 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
For a game that says it has anti name claim mechanics there's sure been a lot of name claiming with no repercussions.


Scummiest post of the day award?

Usually it‘s mafia who gets pissy about claims while town is happy to know more.


It makes me think you both are either mafia or fake claiming your names.

Nice 0 level analysis though.


Yeah first thing I'd do as mafia in this game is promising to claim the next day at N0.
Meanwhile you just fake claimed my name back then because ???

Truth is you're letting it slip through that you're frustrated about claims.


I wonder why I would fake claim a name in a game where mafia have abilities to shoot name claims.

Big thonk.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 16:16 GMT
#1710
On January 13 2021 00:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 12 2021 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
For a game that says it has anti name claim mechanics there's sure been a lot of name claiming with no repercussions.


Scummiest post of the day award?

Usually it‘s mafia who gets pissy about claims while town is happy to know more.


It makes me think you both are either mafia or fake claiming your names.

Nice 0 level analysis though.


How many people do you think is mafia? 4 so far?


You, dandel, ticktock

So 3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 16:18 GMT
#1711
On January 13 2021 01:03 Vivax wrote:
You can look for mafia anywhere for any reason but somehow you think it's more productive to sprinkle generic doubt about claims while not even wanting to lynch any of them besides Slam (according to your vote).


I want to elim dandel. Slam was just to test how many votes I got.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 16:47 GMT
#1714
On January 13 2021 01:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 01:18 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 01:03 Vivax wrote:
You can look for mafia anywhere for any reason but somehow you think it's more productive to sprinkle generic doubt about claims while not even wanting to lynch any of them besides Slam (according to your vote).


I want to elim dandel. Slam was just to test how many votes I got.


You and I think Dandel is mafia, why don't we just lynch him? I'm over 9000% I'm not mafia.


Well you're in 2 QTs and maintain I'm lying so we're at an impasse.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 16:49 GMT
#1716
On January 13 2021 01:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 01:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 12 2021 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
For a game that says it has anti name claim mechanics there's sure been a lot of name claiming with no repercussions.


Scummiest post of the day award?

Usually it‘s mafia who gets pissy about claims while town is happy to know more.


It makes me think you both are either mafia or fake claiming your names.

Nice 0 level analysis though.


How many people do you think is mafia? 4 so far?


You, dandel, ticktock

So 3


Didn't you also say Slam and Conversion were mafia :D


Where have I said any of these things?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 18:11 GMT
#1720
On January 13 2021 02:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 01:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 13 2021 01:18 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 01:03 Vivax wrote:
You can look for mafia anywhere for any reason but somehow you think it's more productive to sprinkle generic doubt about claims while not even wanting to lynch any of them besides Slam (according to your vote).


I want to elim dandel. Slam was just to test how many votes I got.


You and I think Dandel is mafia, why don't we just lynch him? I'm over 9000% I'm not mafia.


Well you're in 2 QTs and maintain I'm lying so we're at an impasse.


I'm not in two QT's so you're lying.


Are you saying mafia targeted you with something to fake the amount of QTs you're in? Or are you saying they bus drove you?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 18:36 GMT
#1726
On January 13 2021 03:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 01:49 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 01:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 13 2021 01:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:51 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 00:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 12 2021 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
For a game that says it has anti name claim mechanics there's sure been a lot of name claiming with no repercussions.


Scummiest post of the day award?

Usually it‘s mafia who gets pissy about claims while town is happy to know more.


It makes me think you both are either mafia or fake claiming your names.

Nice 0 level analysis though.


How many people do you think is mafia? 4 so far?


You, dandel, ticktock

So 3


Didn't you also say Slam and Conversion were mafia :D


Where have I said any of these things?


Oops, meant Yamato here:

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
Yamato is suspicious as fuck. More info later.


You never brought any info, instead both of you tunneled me.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 06:39 Holyflare wrote:
On January 12 2021 06:38 Tictock wrote:
Oops copied the wrong tabs URL

My Actual Case


How can conversion be mafia when he's dead?


Conversion isn't dead unless you foreshadowed.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
I'm in like a thousand QTs and only one of them is mafia chat


So you say so yourself, you're in the mafia QT


I never brought any info.....???? Other than the entire talk about all our roles and how I came to that conclusion???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 18:36 GMT
#1727
On January 13 2021 03:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't wait for shockeyy to flip town despite the endless tunnel
It will amuse me to no end


Who would you rather die instead then?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 18:37 GMT
#1728
On January 13 2021 03:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
I can't wait for shockeyy to flip town despite the endless tunnel
It will amuse me to no end


Shockeyy (12) - Justanothertownie, WaveofShadow, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 18:51 GMT
#1734
I legitimately can't tell if you're roleplaying or just have the IQ of a sandwich.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:28 GMT
#1759
On January 13 2021 04:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Holyflares ability to force people into QT's is not helpful for town, and even if it did have healing powers, has anybody even claimed they got healed?

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 09:58 yamato77 wrote:
HF made the QTs and he says I should be in 3 QTs when I am only in 1


Dude he's doing the same shit to me, saying I'm in two, when I'm only in 1, do you not even see that as suspicious?...

You said so yourself:

"I would not be upset if Shockey dies. This likely also means that HF's "counterclaim" of Vivax was fake. Idk why he did this but at this point it's not nearly enough to make me suspicious of HF."


HF's ability to force people into QT's is not helpful for town ShoCkeyy says after literally just watching GB flip town with an ability to force people into QT's.

It is mod confirmed to give healing powers. Literally confirmed by hapa in the QT.

I came up with a plan to bait Yamato using part of my role that was true, the ability to check how many QTs someone was in. Since I placed JAT, Eversince and Yamato into a QT I knew Yamato would be in at least 2 QTs (I'm in one with him to begin with). If he was in mafia then I would expect him to be in 3 QTs so I baited him and said he was in 3 QTs to see if he'd admit he was with someone else.

I have had it confirmed to me that nobody visited me last night, that means my power was not interrupted. I confirmed it, told Yamato that he is in 3 QTs and he said he was in no QTs other than the one we were in together.

I took that to mean that Yamato had fallen for the bait but in a way where he was trying to be clever saying he was only in that QT with me as opposed to being in the QT I had also provided him/jat/eversince.

Meanwhile, I'm piecing together how everyone in the thread apart from the 3 people I targeted are in a QT together and it turns out it was wave.

Very simple.

But I guess I called Yamato mafia at one point, such a shame.

I didn't counter claim Vivax either, Vivax counter claimed me. Hapa said that mafia had anti-name claiming powers and so I baited them to shoot me and waste that power by claiming a name I wasn't. GL mafia, you have probably around 8-9 random guesses left to get it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:29 GMT
#1761
On January 13 2021 04:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB's last post
January 09 2021 22:46 EST

The time GB dies.
January 10 2021 15:01 EST

180 posts go by before he's lynched. GB isn't the type of player to just let himself get lynched that easily. He literally agrees with HF as his last post and is done for the day.

Are you going to continue saying I don't read? Cause that's literally what happened with GB. And I know HF is an excellent mafia player who can make things happen without them ever actually happening.


GB isn't the type of player to just let himself get lynched that easily.


What point are you trying to make here? I feel like you just undid your entire argument by saying GB was afk.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:32 GMT
#1763
Are you disagreeing that GB was afk and your premise is that he just gave up after being tunelled by me? Even though you just said that he isn't the kind of player to roll over?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:34 GMT
#1767
It's literally just been made what point are you trying to make. For someone that says they know everything that's happened you have a remarkable lack of awareness.

Whoever you're RPing should feel incredibly insulted.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:35 GMT
#1769
On January 13 2021 04:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
Are you disagreeing that GB was afk and your premise is that he just gave up after being tunelled by me? Even though you just said that he isn't the kind of player to roll over?


He isn't the kind of player to roll over, yet he did when arguing with you is what I'm saying.


Ah, yes, GB the master of letting HF get what he wants. Not once has he ever tunelled me or clogged up the entire thread arguing with me. He's notorious for bending over backwards to please me and get eliminated.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:36 GMT
#1773
This guy is a fucking jester and that's why he increases votes on himself. No doubt in my mind.

Abort guys.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:37 GMT
#1774
Kill the guy with KP, I'll make it worth your while.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:42 GMT
#1782
On January 13 2021 04:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't think I've ever played a game with the mythical jester

Imo it's just an old wives tale
A story to scare children who don't listen to their elders


+ Show Spoiler +
Alakaslam

Hijole you are Alakaslam master of svengali and king of chupazi. Whatever that means since nobody but you actually knows what it means... You are completely unreadable because people can never understand what you are talking about. Are you actually scum hunting? Eh doesnt matter you just want to have fun anyway.

Jester (cannot claim)
1 Anti Nuke
When killed or lynched will give 3 random nukes out, Nukes can be Real, Fake, or Anti

Upgrade: (medium) Say Chupazi, Hijole, and Svengalli each at least once.

The Chupazi is strong in this one!

Mason 1 player of your choice.
1 shot bulletproof vest


Was in the last one apparently.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:43 GMT
#1783
On January 13 2021 04:37 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think a jester would have that ability

also jester is a terrible role and would be a 3rd 3p

I choose to believe he's just terrible


I do.

You're assuming we have 3 3Ps though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:46 GMT
#1786
On January 13 2021 04:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 04:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't think I've ever played a game with the mythical jester

Imo it's just an old wives tale
A story to scare children who don't listen to their elders


+ Show Spoiler +
Alakaslam

Hijole you are Alakaslam master of svengali and king of chupazi. Whatever that means since nobody but you actually knows what it means... You are completely unreadable because people can never understand what you are talking about. Are you actually scum hunting? Eh doesnt matter you just want to have fun anyway.

Jester (cannot claim)
1 Anti Nuke
When killed or lynched will give 3 random nukes out, Nukes can be Real, Fake, or Anti

Upgrade: (medium) Say Chupazi, Hijole, and Svengalli each at least once.

The Chupazi is strong in this one!

Mason 1 player of your choice.
1 shot bulletproof vest


Was in the last one apparently.

Which one was that? Was I in there?
Ah well


WaveofShadow as Half the Sky Killed Night 1

yes
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 19:48 GMT
#1788
On January 13 2021 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I mean if we want to panic get off shockeyy that's fine I guess?
But I will say I'm far more likely to follow whatever yams does than you sir.

My faith in the bank of Holyflare is shaken
You bad boy


So you think I could be mafia after coming up with that convuluted as fuck QT bait on yamato? Plz.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 20:18 GMT
#1813
On January 13 2021 05:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I really wonder who you rolled tbh.


Either GB for incessant calling hf mafia or.... Dandel for trolling? Idk.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 20:33 GMT
#1815
I'm not voting for shockeyy it's a bad elim
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2021 20:35 GMT
#1817
He's a jester or yamato has a hit out on a specific name, either way shockey is a bad vote.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 00:36 GMT
#1878
On January 13 2021 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
HF, are you going to drop this 2 qt claim now? Then we can talk. Otherwise explain how he can be town OR jester.


Sure, I'll drop it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 00:37 GMT
#1879
I feel like a mafia power does not entail giving them 2 extra votes but receiving 3x as many from everyone that votes them. That is jester 101.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 01:18 GMT
#1884
On January 13 2021 10:10 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't somebody just vig him? Oh!
We can give him protection and I can reverse it


If you are assuming he is Jester, which I seriously disagree with, doesn't killing him in anyway give him his wincon?

I really don't see Hapa or Grey putting in a Jester like that, even the role HF quoted didn't make it a requirement he play to get killed. I trust our hosts to not make a role like that.

I think it is much more likely the extra votes is a side effect of an action he took that he is keeping secret.


No, jesters need to be solely voted off to win.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 01:19 GMT
#1885
It didn't have the wincon in the one I linked because it was just the role but jesters only win by being voted, which is why the power makes total sense as a jester and 0% sense as mafia.

What kind of mafia power outs that you're the one controlling votes when literally anyone votes you? Dumb af.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 03:42 GMT
#1903
I think you need some time away from the thread if you're confused by my very basic accusations towards shockey.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:23 GMT
#1933
On January 13 2021 15:20 Vivax wrote:
The classical jester means everyone else loses when he gets lynched. I doubt that‘s in the game with me as 3p already. Maybe he just ‚wins‘ but the game goes on.

HF doesn‘t seem keen on lynching him in an agenda-y way


I've never seen a game end with jester being eliminated. Only them achieving a wincon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:24 GMT
#1934
On January 13 2021 16:17 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 15:42 Vivax wrote:
On January 13 2021 15:31 yamato77 wrote:
Jester and useless survivor is such a handicap to town


Considering zero NKs so far we might not even be dealing with mafia but with a cult.

„we“ I mean

Or Wave actually protected me

which is like the simplest explanation

KISS


It doesn't matter if he did, if the wording for the heal in the QT is "protects from 1kp damage" then it's almost certain this is an hp game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:29 GMT
#1940
On January 13 2021 19:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 19:23 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 15:20 Vivax wrote:
The classical jester means everyone else loses when he gets lynched. I doubt that‘s in the game with me as 3p already. Maybe he just ‚wins‘ but the game goes on.

HF doesn‘t seem keen on lynching him in an agenda-y way


I've never seen a game end with jester being eliminated. Only them achieving a wincon.

Sure, this would also be my assumption. And since I was the first to entertain the jester option I would be right with you here but this ability really does not fit a jester. Or rather it helps a jester achieve his goal way too easily.


Clearly we're debating not killing him so it's not that easy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:32 GMT
#1945
I don't like how invested yamato is in solely eliminating shockey.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:34 GMT
#1947
I've already said who reads like mafia and I'm voting one of them. Even if shockey is mafia I wouldn't put it past this game to habe some bs mechanic for being voted out with how that power works.

Imagine not talking about mechanics in a themed game though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:39 GMT
#1955
On January 13 2021 19:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 19:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:29 yamato77 wrote:
The role and usage also make no sense for town really

What kind of town ability gives you extra votes but guarantees that mafia can get you to majority by themselves

Fair. But it is not very helpful as mafia either.

But it is! Mafia getting extra votes is so good. How can you not see that?

Sure, but mafia also does not want to get lynched, right? This makes it highly likely to get lynched. I would say the role is not really helpful to any alignment.

It depends on game state obviously. The writing was on the wall for him today, clearly, so he just used it because he figured he was going to die anyway

If he were not so likely to get lynched, using this ability and then voting late in the day to hide his voting strength is a strong mafia move that could literally sway a lynch and confuse the shit out of town

I made this point already though


Sounds really dumb to me. It would be almost trivial to see shockey joining a wagon and then 2 votes miraculously appearing. Unless you're saying he could activate it while already being on a wagon but then any shenanigan fucks him totally.

Sounds bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:42 GMT
#1961
On January 13 2021 19:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 19:39 Holyflare wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:35 yamato77 wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 13 2021 19:29 yamato77 wrote:
The role and usage also make no sense for town really

What kind of town ability gives you extra votes but guarantees that mafia can get you to majority by themselves

Fair. But it is not very helpful as mafia either.

But it is! Mafia getting extra votes is so good. How can you not see that?

Sure, but mafia also does not want to get lynched, right? This makes it highly likely to get lynched. I would say the role is not really helpful to any alignment.

It depends on game state obviously. The writing was on the wall for him today, clearly, so he just used it because he figured he was going to die anyway

If he were not so likely to get lynched, using this ability and then voting late in the day to hide his voting strength is a strong mafia move that could literally sway a lynch and confuse the shit out of town

I made this point already though


Sounds really dumb to me. It would be almost trivial to see shockey joining a wagon and then 2 votes miraculously appearing. Unless you're saying he could activate it while already being on a wagon but then any shenanigan fucks him totally.

Sounds bad.

You're assuming there are votecounts between every vote, which is almost never the case

Are you really even thinking with your brain


Ah yes better make a mechanic that relies on lazy hosting at deadline.

Do you even read the words you write?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 10:44 GMT
#1964
What a ludicrous argument.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 11:43 GMT
#1977
On January 13 2021 20:32 Vivax wrote:
I don‘t think I can take anyone seriously who thinks dandel is mafia.

You‘re either superbaf or you‘re scum if you think that. He has too mich fun with the game and I don‘t thinkhe‘d do the fake role thing as scum.


Spoken like a true maybe not 3p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 11:45 GMT
#1978
I don't really think he's mafia but I think he probably has kp. Don't believe his role makes him immune for extended periods of the game like he says it does at least.

He also played it badly. Had the option for a duel and didn't choose hapa + x? Lame.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 12:05 GMT
#1980
Oh wellllllll

Only other person I'd probably switch to is TT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 12:23 GMT
#1982
I know you don't believe that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 13:02 GMT
#1984
Why are you trying to justify dandel's role by jumping through all these hoops? Genuinely don't understand.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 15:31 GMT
#1993
##Tsuki ga kirei
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 15:46 GMT
#2000
+ Show Spoiler [dandel only] +
bunny myself and ShoCkeyy plz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 16:41 GMT
#2011
On January 14 2021 01:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2021 18:49 yamato77 wrote:
On January 13 2021 18:46 justanothertownie wrote:
In all likelihood they are both mafia.

I think that is exceedingly unlikely

Dandel actually appears to be thinking about the game for one

Not to mention all the scummiest people in the game are willing to lynch him so easily

This feels like a terrible lynch choice to avoid actually lynching mafia

Word! I know I am voting him people but

please pay attention

That
Has
To
Do
With
My
Role

Thank you! Please consider the vertical sentence a PSA!


Yeah I'm voting him because of your role too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 17:37 GMT
#2020
Wow ShoCkeyy joined a wagon and the votes went up by 2 extra. Wonder who that could have been.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 17:55 GMT
#2024
Vivax tomorrow you need to duel someone or die btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 17:55 GMT
#2025
Why are we lynching the innocent child shockey?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 17:56 GMT
#2027
On January 14 2021 02:56 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax tomorrow you need to duel someone or die btw

we are not lynching Vivax tomorrow


And this is why you should not be in charge of anything. God forbid we make a claimed 3P use his powers to prove they're true.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 17:57 GMT
#2029
On January 14 2021 02:57 ghostofconversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 02:55 Holyflare wrote:
Why are we lynching the innocent child shockey?


why arent we lynching tocktic?

or u know, eversince who afked all game and pretended she didnt know what deadlines were


I'm fine killing tt don't mind switching.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 18:44 GMT
#2051
I can't believe you guys are voting for the claimed cop.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:20 GMT
#2053
This is when ShoCkeyy's votes aren't actually real and nobody dies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:23 GMT
#2056
On January 14 2021 04:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
what if you gave him an actual majority


He's a bad town leader but I don't think that's called for
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:50 GMT
#2070
I'll blame yamato post flip don't worry ShoCkeyy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:51 GMT
#2072
You still don't have majority btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:52 GMT
#2076
Ah ok we're safe then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:52 GMT
#2078
On January 14 2021 04:52 justanothertownie wrote:
You could switch.


I don't wanna vote gb off two days in a row
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:53 GMT
#2079
Full claim shockey!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:54 GMT
#2081
On January 14 2021 04:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Full claim shockey!


I already did, I’m town, but I can just multiply my vote by 1, 2, or 3, it also multiplies if you’re voting for me. I asked that today my vote was multiplied by 3 :|


Name
Win con
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:55 GMT
#2083
On January 14 2021 04:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 04:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On January 14 2021 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Full claim shockey!


I already did, I’m town, but I can just multiply my vote by 1, 2, or 3, it also multiplies if you’re voting for me. I asked that today my vote was multiplied by 3 :|

you're a moron if you are town and used that today when i said all night i wanted to lynch you


You're a moron for not being able to see he's town and railroading the thread. Don't blame this sweet child, he tried his best.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:57 GMT
#2086
On January 14 2021 04:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
I can't believe you guys are voting for the claimed cop.


##Rant

Alright, listen here. You say stuff like this because you think it's funny but it's not funny - it's actually unfunny and it makes me angry how unfunny it is and you are.

In addition to that, you said someone had the IQ of a sandwich. Sandwiches are delicious, and I went and Googled smart sandwiches and apparently there were some hits so frankly your insinuation that a person could be as dumb as a sandwich when there's such thing as a smart one sandwich is wrong.

You are insulting, antitown, you're voting the wrong dude and you also smell like moldy porridge.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:58 GMT
#2088
I await the PM with my obi affliction.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 19:59 GMT
#2090
Jester incoming gj yamato
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 20:04 GMT
#2096
Holy fuck that was a top tier yamato role pm
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 20:05 GMT
#2098
On January 14 2021 05:04 yamato77 wrote:
what a truly awful player


Never blame yourself, only others. Clearly the most non mafia power of ever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 20:06 GMT
#2101
It was crystal clear.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 20:09 GMT
#2107
On January 14 2021 05:08 yamato77 wrote:
I now want to lynch Holyflare and I will only post about it until i die


At least that confirms me town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 21:41 GMT
#2121
I ask for your QT protection votes in this trying time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 22:33 GMT
#2135
On January 14 2021 06:50 Tictock wrote:
Why should I bother trying in this game?

Yam and Conversion are playing either deeply tunneled or with their egos first. HF just says whatever lie he hopes will get him what he wants. Ever is ... Well what-Ever

You guys suck. Jat is like the only sensible person in this game who actually tried to get people to vote the guy lying about not having KP, who has also done Jack all game.

But sure you all go and lynch me tomorrow like I know you will. I hope you have a blast.


Excuse me? Jat is the only person that tried? Are you having a laugh?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 22:36 GMT
#2136
I think yamato is probably mafia tbh. Don't care who thinks it's likely or not I'm pretty sure he was trolling by voting shockey.

The way he's claiming a shot on me tonight just reads like he's gonna kp me from fear.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:18 GMT
#2142
Why the fuck do you think I'm joking is the real question?

I don't "throw things out to see if they stick" I just tell people what my thoughts are. I thought shockey was a trash elim and his power wasn't likely to come from mafia but nobody seems to give a shit.

Plz tell me where I've done this so many times to make you so exasperated. I'm eagerly awaiting your reply.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:19 GMT
#2143
Have you once asked me what my thought process is? No, just whine.

Yamato/Eversince and I are in a QT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:20 GMT
#2144
They can collectively save me tonight and yamato is trying to convince eversince to not use their power on me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:22 GMT
#2145
And what exact thought process has led yamato to think this? He was so grossly wrong and I was correct and he is salty? Perhaps.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:22 GMT
#2146
I don't think it's a strange coincedence that I was watched n1 and they knew it so didn't target me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:24 GMT
#2148
You guys are whiney fucks. 90% of you don't even play the game or accuse anyone or provide any reasoning and then you bitch and whine over nothing. No wonder this place is almost dead, the gameplay is atrocious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:25 GMT
#2150
On January 14 2021 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
Why the fuck do you think I'm joking is the real question?

I don't "throw things out to see if they stick" I just tell people what my thoughts are. I thought shockey was a trash elim and his power wasn't likely to come from mafia but nobody seems to give a shit.

Plz tell me where I've done this so many times to make you so exasperated. I'm eagerly awaiting your reply.

I don't think you're joking, I just think it's bad. The yam thing to be specific

HF you gotta clam down my man

Shockey was a shit lynch I agree but I was shit too and didn't do much about it

IIRC you flip flopped about with it in the early game and all the theory rafting around his role and the KP thing was exhausting to anyone not as in depth invested in it as you are


I do not think it's bad in the slightest. What has he done other than accuse shockey and TT and never re-evaluate? Putting in a modicum of effort makes you shine the towniest beacon every somehow.

You are not in the QT with me so you don't have all the info that I have.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:27 GMT
#2152
One of eversince or yamato is mafia and that much I can guarantee you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:33 GMT
#2155
No, I know one of them is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 13 2021 23:44 GMT
#2158
The unfounded fear is real.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 00:39 GMT
#2179
Who knew Tictock was Conversion's elusive 113%
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 00:44 GMT
#2184
For real though, I'm town, I've got big plans. Prot me or do whatever but just make sure I survive and I'll start churning out cases.

I think eversince was quite generous and nice inviting me to the QT. Don't think she'd be that bold as mafia to give me some random stuff. Maybe she would, idk, it was her idea to do it and Yamato kinda poo-pood it and made sure that I wasn't saved n1. He's making silly comments like "es go tell mafia qt to shoot hf" and stuff like that so he's just a troll at best and mafia at worst.

I don't think the QT has been too egregious to call either of them mafia tbh and yamato told es to sheep on shockey because she didn't really have time (a recurring theme in the QT). Could they be mafia? probably... but there's a long list of worse people I'd think
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 00:44 GMT
#2185
On January 14 2021 09:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
We really probably should have just let TL mafia die in the end
Without its dignity
In a hole somewhere

But here we are


This is your fault!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 00:45 GMT
#2186
I still don't know who the fuck my parents are though or what being adopted means. It doesn't say anything like that in there.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 00:46 GMT
#2188
On January 14 2021 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 09:44 Holyflare wrote:
On January 14 2021 09:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
We really probably should have just let TL mafia die in the end
Without its dignity
In a hole somewhere

But here we are


This is your fault!

Only partially.

I don't think the qt is going to coordinate protection on anyone tonight


Don't waste an ability on me I can prot myself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 00:50 GMT
#2195
I played a few games at mafia universe, the quality there is 100x more refreshing, they actually quote posts and argue about cases sometimes!

And their site functionality is phenomenal.

Won't be playing mafia again for a long time but if anyone needs a new home they're all really nice there.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 00:52 GMT
#2197
On January 14 2021 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 09:44 Holyflare wrote:
For real though, I'm town, I've got big plans. Prot me or do whatever but just make sure I survive and I'll start churning out cases.

I think eversince was quite generous and nice inviting me to the QT. Don't think she'd be that bold as mafia to give me some random stuff. Maybe she would, idk, it was her idea to do it and Yamato kinda poo-pood it and made sure that I wasn't saved n1. He's making silly comments like "es go tell mafia qt to shoot hf" and stuff like that so he's just a troll at best and mafia at worst.

I don't think the QT has been too egregious to call either of them mafia tbh and yamato told es to sheep on shockey because she didn't really have time (a recurring theme in the QT). Could they be mafia? probably... but there's a long list of worse people I'd think

But then why post all that random shit earlier that I called you on?

More thought process stuff?


At the time he was inciting riots. A real mafia move.

He's since changed his tune when threatened with impeachment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 01:01 GMT
#2204
can't die I got prot
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 01:25 GMT
#2208
On January 14 2021 10:21 ghostofconversion wrote:
what gives hf prot?


the narrative
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 02:24 GMT
#2218
man obi you did roll mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 03:42 GMT
#2228
On January 12 2021 10:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2021 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
If shockey is mafia and activated a power that makes all votes on him count as 3 instead of 1 when he knew he was likely to get voted then I question the entire mafia team's intelligence tbh.


I think this is mostly wifom though tbh.


No you thought it was wifom
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 16:09 GMT
#2267
Good game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 17:41 GMT
#2269
First time watching conversion tt case. Very good would sheep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 14 2021 19:50 GMT
#2276
Good times
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2021 21:26 GMT
#3004
Imagine not voting the guy with KP that can't win with town.

And also imagine nuking yourself when you have called a guy mafia all game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2021 22:59 GMT
#3016
On January 17 2021 07:47 Eversince wrote:
Not only I think.

Hosting, even in experimental setups, usually good.

Our community is so small, and I can't voice the rest of you.. I'm not young anymore. I don't have counted hours to play. There's few players here that don't play offsite that live up to their prime. It's just life. I'm guilty, your guilty, your mother's cat is guilty. I'm honest to myself in I have always been trash. I feel I've lost what little skill even have playing offsite some what frequency.

As heart broken as I am to say, this is probably my last mafia game here. I love this entire community, I grew a lot as a player here. But we still hold a 'be great' mentality while rust freezing our joints. It's sad.


Don't be too hard on yourself. You play in a second language with little to no time and you were pretty easy to town read. I stopped playing because I didn't have enough time to devote the game and I think that's why the forum started to die too. We just grow old, that's life unfortunately!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-17 18:22:55
January 17 2021 18:19 GMT
#3033
On January 18 2021 01:03 Tictock wrote:
Oh and HF also kinda helped us in some ways.

He put out a bit too much WIFOM, "lies to get reaction/results" whatever you wanna call it and really added to the atmosphere of town not coaleseing. He did have JAT very concerned about HF proting himself but both me and Dandel were like "he's full of it dude"

IMO

Oh I also thought it was a small stroke of brilliance to get ppl to vote for Wave in the QT when I knew we were RBing him and he wouldn't be saving anyone. Obi getting a save woulda changed the game.

This game def suffered the "Town has too many good roles" and I feel the anti-claim mechanic prob needed to be a little stronger. I don't think scum could have actually done anything if massclaiming happened. Otherwise mad props to making a very fun and interesting game Hapa and Grey!


Don't fool yourself into thinking my wifom had anything to do with 90% of the game not particularly playing to any meaningful extent lol.

I didn't want to get protected because I wanted to die tbh.

I think it's largely a bad idea you get actual access to QTs though and not something that's really been in any game I've played in so you literally knew what was happening with the prot which is quite silly.

Agree you should have had better anti claims and I knew it could be broken with mass claims so didn't particularly bother with calling for one.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2021 19:00 GMT
#3037
On January 18 2021 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you shouldnt wifom too much HF, it makes people think youre mafia.


Nobody thought I was mafia other than like one person lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2021 20:14 GMT
#3043
On January 18 2021 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2021 04:00 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2021 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you shouldnt wifom too much HF, it makes people think youre mafia.


Nobody thought I was mafia other than like one person lol

I think that person was mafia!TT. No, your WIFOM was a pain in the ass for mafia and generally not a bad thing. The bad thing is when you actually try to get killed because you don't want to play. Which I also understand since you were more or less the only townie actively and properly playing this game. This forum apparently isn't what it used to be.


I mean there's an off chance mafia are in my QT and get wifomed into not attacking me. There's another minute chance that wave is mafia and reverses a prot into damage. Or that you bus drive wave onto me and assume it'll kill me.

So it's not wholly that I wanted to die, just covering bases when it's likely you only have 1 kp and you've already targeted yamato.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 18 2021 00:00 GMT
#3048
On January 18 2021 06:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2021 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe Shockey also thought you are mafia. But I honestly don't know if that has anything to do with your play.


He lied about the QT, I took it to the ass so mafia.


I retracted it when asked about it. But both yourself and obi clearly didn't read any of the thread to know about that :p
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#41
RotterdaM722
TKL 407
BRAT_OK 196
IndyStarCraft 183
SteadfastSC102
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 722
TKL 407
mouzHeroMarine 321
BRAT_OK 196
IndyStarCraft 183
ProTech149
SteadfastSC 102
UpATreeSC 98
JuggernautJason44
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 158
ggaemo 85
Hm[arnc] 40
Rock 35
Barracks 0
Dota 2
Gorgc6010
qojqva2692
febbydoto24
Counter-Strike
adren_tv381
oskar71
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK10
Other Games
Grubby2819
singsing1917
FrodaN1839
ceh9572
Sick238
Liquid`VortiX237
KnowMe198
uThermal153
ToD145
C9.Mang0142
ArmadaUGS137
Liquid`Hasu106
QueenE105
Trikslyr65
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1217
Other Games
BasetradeTV83
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 102
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis5632
• Jankos2074
• TFBlade1200
• Shiphtur455
Other Games
• imaqtpie719
• WagamamaTV338
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h 30m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
17h 30m
Replay Cast
1d 14h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
SC Evo Complete
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.