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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 15 2021 22:47 GMT
#2846
I mean I was already leaning in that direction but I feel like it's just way more obvious now.
Am I biased? Obviously. But I think that highlighting the difference in mentalities here is important.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 00:41 GMT
#2855
On January 16 2021 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Wait I havent given this a ton of thought.

Is this MYLO now? Do we have to lynch Vivax?


Yes and yes.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 00:41 GMT
#2856
On January 16 2021 08:11 Vivax wrote:
If Obi's town here he'd be trying way too hard for someone who should know that his faction loses no matter who gets lynched today.

Scum is all in.


Uh this doesn't make any sense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 01:21 GMT
#2863
On January 16 2021 09:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2021 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 16 2021 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Wait I havent given this a ton of thought.

Is this MYLO now? Do we have to lynch Vivax?


Yes and yes.

On a scale of one to mad
How mad be

If u swing by the neck newayz


I would be
perturbed
miffed
agitated
vexed
irate
cross
displeased
irked
and quite frankly aggrieved.

I was under the impression that this game hinged on my survival here based on how things turned out so dying for lulz would be a sad time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 01:38 GMT
#2866
On January 16 2021 10:32 Vivax wrote:
It's simple really. It's a matter of mindset (Obis) to figure out he's scum. If you are town and have a sufficient amount of brains it should be obvious that I am what I claim to be. I really went into this game starting N0 knowing that with my role my best play is to admit I'm 3p. I didn't sneak around that at all and first thing I did is promise I'd claim.

Let's say you're Obi. If you're town, my alignment should be relevant to you before it gets this far. You know that if you get dueled, town loses no matter what, if conversion dies.

Before I dueled him, he should have done everything in his power to sway me, knowing that if he couldn't convince me, town would lose. And after the duel, he should know that town lost.

Instead he outed himself because he did what scum does in this situation: He needs to convince town that I'm not third party, and start playing for real. From a mindset where he's town and I'm third party, which I believe he claimed to have (or at least behaved accordingly because I don't remember him gunning for me ever previously) before I became a threat to him, he should be somewhat...mad? I just doomed town to a loss after all.


"Blah blah blah I made an objectively bad play and that makes Obi mafia because I went and stuffed my head into a toaster."

You did this off of one post from n0 and said I didn't sway you based off of that, not even acknowledging that confirmed mafia would be spared thanks to your objectively bad play.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 01:45 GMT
#2867
There are so many holes in that logic that I can't even.
I wanted you day 1 and mostly left you alone because other people said you were a bad lynch.
I started questioning your existence again on day 3 because shockeyy got lynched and obviously he wasn't mafia, so I needed to rethink things.
I don't see anywhere you've even pointed out where any of this was unnatural other than the fact that I was less concerned about a 3p rather than other people I legitimately thought were mafia.
There is simply no way you make a play this blatantly antitown as 3p so you are pretty much confirmed mafia.

And that's not even getting into your dandel read, which is ignoring the fact that he lied about KP and has proceeded to do absolutely nothing even after being red checked which you have completely written off for no discernable reason. "He isn't conscientious" is such nonsense. What, he isn't trying to post well on purpose?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 02:36 GMT
#2872
On January 16 2021 11:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2021 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There are so many holes in that logic that I can't even.
I wanted you day 1 and mostly left you alone because other people said you were a bad lynch.
I started questioning your existence again on day 3 because shockeyy got lynched and obviously he wasn't mafia, so I needed to rethink things.
I don't see anywhere you've even pointed out where any of this was unnatural other than the fact that I was less concerned about a 3p rather than other people I legitimately thought were mafia.
There is simply no way you make a play this blatantly antitown as 3p so you are pretty much confirmed mafia.

And that's not even getting into your dandel read, which is ignoring the fact that he lied about KP and has proceeded to do absolutely nothing even after being red checked which you have completely written off for no discernable reason. "He isn't conscientious" is such nonsense. What, he isn't trying to post well on purpose?


Don't make me laugh.

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@HF - I realized conversion was roleplaying as me, and I don't think anyone would yolo nuke with a real nuke for a nonexistent reason so really the only conclusion to draw was that it was fake.

I also think lynching Vivax is fine if you think the current gamestate isn't real.

I also don't really have a read on dandel either way and I'm not sure why you think otherwise? Like the case on him is objectively bad (that his role makes him mafia) but he really hasn't done anything at all and I'm not sure why that warrants a vote or how people are drawing more conclusions based on that.

I also feel like you should have responded to my post about wave being mafia from n0 before using it as a point simply because I don't feel like your reasoning regarding that has been fleshed out enough, if at all? Even if you think he was, I don't agree with it and would like reasoning as to why.

As for yamato, I actually think he's dropping towards the null category at this point but with the game being the way it is currently, I'm not really sure that even matters.

Honestly I think I mapped out my play today pretty accurately and stand by it. It's not a great strategy per se, but I feel like most of the important stuff happened n0 and most of today is going to be a wash thanks to dandel, and scumhunting based on a few lines early is going to be nigh impossible.


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2021 02:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I actually just realized I missed a vivax post and thought he claimed 3p this cycle, and claimed scum last cycle.
So ignore my points on him that was just a mistake on my end.


This guy can't even keep his story straight because he goes back in his own filter but only reads the first post to say he wanted to lynch me then forgets to read the next post.


/shrug
Claiming I thought you claimed scum and then reneging that read because you didn't, then opting to make a lynch I thought was sort of okay based on both cycles when the gamestate was unclear never meant that I thought that

Plus, I was still under the impression that I may have been scum based on my dandel role pm as opposed to the one I received from Hapa so I didn't really know what to do.

Not really all that confusing when you think about it. Nor do I see what's weird about it.

Nice try though - have to reach for something at this point. I think you really backed yourself into a corner and were hoping to ride thread sentiment to a safe victory and I don't think you were really expecting me to do anything other than roll over and die. If you were somehow 3p I think you would have coordinated and planned better but that simply hasn't happened in the slightest.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 02:40 GMT
#2873
I actually just realized that I cut off my own first sentence. Let me pedit that -

On January 16 2021 11:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Claiming I thought you claimed scum and then reneging that read because you didn't, then opting to make a lynch I thought was sort of okay based on both cycles when the gamestate was unclear never meant that I thought that you were town or even that I thought you were a bad lynch in the real Hapa game - merely that you were the safest option at a time where I had no idea what to do because I received confliction role PMs based on me misreading something.


Should be better now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 02:42 GMT
#2874
**conflicting.
Another edit.
I actually didn't see anything in the OP that said if I can or can't pedit like that so if I broke a rule or something, my bad. I haven't played here in years.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 03:20 GMT
#2880
On January 16 2021 11:42 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2021 22:19 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2021 22:16 ghostofconversion wrote:
why I bothered to vote is beyond me but at this point I believe it's obi/jat/dandel

I'm also being removed in 7 hours AMA


Disagree on Dandel, but one at a time.
Still think ur nuke is a dud.


This post gave me modivation to open Vivax's filter and see if he seemed to think this before the duel as well, but that was inconclusive.

I did reread these though
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2021 10:32 Vivax wrote:
I think Ever, Slam, Obi are all mafia tbh. But I'm probably going to duel Obi.

Show nested quote +
On January 15 2021 11:20 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2021 11:14 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 15 2021 11:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Uh
Slam I don't know what you got out of that
But I didn't find a patter

Spell it out for me?

Obi immediately talks about dayphase speculation in a TMI way. As town, why should he think ONLY dandel is why there is a N0???

Because SOMEHOW, he knows SCUM is not the reason!


But you said Dandel is 100 % mafia no?

So why are you judging Obi from a point of view where Dandel did it as town?

Also TMI ;>

I think in reaction to Dandel's claim, mafia obviously played it safe and was reluctant to give a vote. Town either yolo voted because fun was more important or grew suspicious of the claim because that's what town does, HF also asked for more info.

Mafia on the other hand was more passive/careful, asked an irrelevant question (Slam), didn't commit (Obi), or did other stuff (Jat?Conv?Ever?).


Which to me doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but I could see this being Vivax's legit thinking here. Clearly though It has to be either Vivax/Dandel/+1 here or Vivax is 3P.

I also liked these
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2021 17:05 Vivax wrote:
If Obi is town, this is me:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


In the meantime:
How did you guess what Eversinces personality was? Can't remember any SlamSlang in that filter.

Show nested quote +
On January 15 2021 19:59 Vivax wrote:
There's peeps doubting my claimed ability so I felt like I had to use it.

I'm your captain now and I'll go down with the ship if Obi isn't scum.

Right after using the duel ability.

These really read like Vivax isn't sure, not like he is pushing Obi because he Needs Obi to die today for the win.


These posts are easily faked as mafia tbh - nothing in there is particularly special or enlightening or exclusively from town.
Btw, if Vivax wasn't sure then he should have waited for people to talk to him about what he was doing.
And none of this really erases the fact that he saved confirmed mafia from today's lynch by doing this.

NEVER FORGET that the reason we're not all enjoying our weekend is because Vivax dueled me instead of letting us put dandel out to pasture.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 07:38 GMT
#2905
On January 16 2021 16:06 Eversince wrote:
You know I keep hoping I'll eventually be caught up.
I've realized it's never going to happen.

This shit fighting is one of the reasons.
Why spend 10 pages saying 'other guy scum!'
Make case-> rebuttal-> ??

I think I'm chance it.
Vivax, blast some meme videos for me! If I just lost *shrug*.. My ability to play this game was gone almost a week ago r.r..

Conversely, prove Vivax is scum not 3p.


He saved confirmed mafia with his role on mylo.
Also his reasoning is nitpicky and bad.

I feel like I've said this ad nauseum but you know.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 07:46 GMT
#2907
Dandel is mafia, if that's what you're asking about.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 07:53 GMT
#2911
Dandel claimed he had no kp despite a slam check, slam checked him as doesn't win with town, and then dandel claimed he had kp after he already had a guilty and lied about it.
And thanks to Vivax, we can't lynch him.
They're both mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 07:54 GMT
#2912
On January 16 2021 16:51 Eversince wrote:
I've said as much for the entire game.

Ok, I'm clueless to be honest. Your both scummy to me for reasons everyone else has already rehashed for the cycle.


Except nobody gave any reasons that I'm scummy.
Vivax posted one thing about n0 which already been disproven and shown to be bad in yet here we are.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 08:32 GMT
#2917
Idk Vivax I just don't think you're that careless to throw your own game away over one post as 3p.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 08:36 GMT
#2918
Complain all you want that I'm calling you mafia but frankly I'm well past the point of even considering you as anything other than the most antitown thing that ever existed.

Anyways.
I am going to bed.
I will be on tomorrow intermittently but I think this lynch kind of speaks for itself at this point, and I see so little as to why there's this much confusion over it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 16:25 GMT
#2929
I'm here for right now but unfortunately it's not super likely I'll be around much before deadline. The thread isn't super active anyway so I don't really see what else I need to respond to at this rate anyways.

Just a minor consolidation of my current thoughts as to what's going on:

I think Jat's town because of some meta stuff and because of proper role use.
I think TT is town because he fell into the same basket as me early and I've never been particularly swayed by the cases on him. I think he had a pretty good cop check that actually helps us out considerably and he outed it at a time that saved us a lot of trouble. Sure, there's always a chance that they're both mafia but Vivax's play doesn't make sense if they are, and TT seems kinda town outside of his claim today anyways.
Slam is town and I have seen absolutely nothing to not believe that.
I think Waveu is being not so smart and I think he's resisting this lynch way too much - could easily be last scum, even if nothing else due to PoE.
Dandel and Vivax are the other two for obvious reasons at this point.

And in case it's relevant, conversion's thoughts on the situation aren't good because they don't assess anyone's play and just assume that someone playing badly makes them town.

I'll be away from most of today unfortunately, but I'll be lurking about close to deadline if I need to claim.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 16:46 GMT
#2932
On January 17 2021 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2021 01:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm here for right now but unfortunately it's not super likely I'll be around much before deadline. The thread isn't super active anyway so I don't really see what else I need to respond to at this rate anyways.

Just a minor consolidation of my current thoughts as to what's going on:

I think Jat's town because of some meta stuff and because of proper role use.
I think TT is town because he fell into the same basket as me early and I've never been particularly swayed by the cases on him. I think he had a pretty good cop check that actually helps us out considerably and he outed it at a time that saved us a lot of trouble. Sure, there's always a chance that they're both mafia but Vivax's play doesn't make sense if they are, and TT seems kinda town outside of his claim today anyways.
Slam is town and I have seen absolutely nothing to not believe that.
I think Waveu is being not so smart and I think he's resisting this lynch way too much - could easily be last scum, even if nothing else due to PoE.
Dandel and Vivax are the other two for obvious reasons at this point.

And in case it's relevant, conversion's thoughts on the situation aren't good because they don't assess anyone's play and just assume that someone playing badly makes them town.

I'll be away from most of today unfortunately, but I'll be lurking about close to deadline if I need to claim.

You should claim anyways to be honest...


Only if I have to.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 16:47 GMT
#2933
On January 17 2021 01:40 Eversince wrote:
I must be a ugly chicken..
I didn't make the list *.*



You are cop checked and fall into the town pile because of it.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 16 2021 19:41 GMT
#2947
Whatever, the comprehension in this game is abysmal anyway.

I have a healing power that I have to target people with during the day, and I can heal all my targets at once by using it at night.

I targeted HF on night 2 but didn’t use it because it sounded like he already had protection.

I pretty much have no use for my power now since I think wos is mafia so he’ll just redirect whoever I target and kill them.

I was hoping to avoid claiming on the off chance vivax is 3p and do a hero save but there’s no point now.
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