I can consolidate on a null read.
Did people figure out Dandel is only showing in thread votes and it's not the real vote count? That was why my HF vote was not my focus kus it wasn't real
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Tictock
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I can consolidate on a null read. Did people figure out Dandel is only showing in thread votes and it's not the real vote count? That was why my HF vote was not my focus kus it wasn't real | ||
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Tictock
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Sorry GB | ||
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Tictock
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Your role actions were all fluff right? Or is my "shot" on Conversion actually gunna do something? | ||
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I think HF's reaction to me "voting" him earlier could make him town. I'd have expected scum!Flare to push me hard for that | ||
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I mentioned something about masons in a post to hint that I had been put in a QT. Looked like I missed stuff that was posted there as well. | ||
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Tictock
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Seems to simultaneously think dandel's thing has to reach some kind of completion but also that people that rolled mafia in dandel's thing won't want to claim because they'll get called scummy. Either he believes Dandel's new game can happen or he doesn't, there's a missing piece of logic here where it looks like Tictock jumps through hoops to assume too many things. This entire paragraph is bullshit. Dandel's thing absolutely had to conclude one way or another literally because Hapa said it would stop N1, I was saying I didn't want to lynch Hapa because it seemed like a wincon for Dandel. I don't see how any of that relates to the fact that people literally called Wave scum for saying Dandel sent him a scum role PM. I pretty clearly stated that I wanted to see where Dandel's thing went N0, but seeing were it went D1 decided not to play along anymore since I didnt want to waste a cycle giving Dandel his wincon. This feels like HF setting up fake dichotomies, claiming "he has to be one or the other" when that is simply not true. This is similar to saying "You either believe in my God or you believe in nothing, I don't see any other answer as valid" | ||
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On January 11 2021 00:37 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2021 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol No, not giving up my qt partners Mr fisherman, that's up to them. And your reasoning above... Is that supposed to make me scum? Laughable. Why do I have to vote Hapa to believe any of what I said? Just because you want me to because it fits your view of what will go down doesn't mean it fits mine, and doesn't make me scummy at all. Jat is the only person on my wagon who makes even an inkling of sense and its aggravating me Stop making me post my wife is gonna get mad lol 1) Why is it up to them if you are the diligent townie that doesn't think Dandel's game is real AND you think the people in the QT are suspicious? Pointless. 2) I didn't say you had to vote hapa to believe what you said. I said that you continued to vote no lynch instead of hapa, or anyone else for that matter because ????? You are being extremely obtuse and anti-town regardless of if you are or not. Just because you put up some facade of bravado and act like everything is supposed to be "oh whoopie these guys are so bad with their lack of reasons to vote me look at me being so good!" It's pathetic. You want to have fun but you're doing it at the expense of people in the game that want to play mafia. Either out your QT members and be pro town, whittle down all your chainsaw defenders and find mafia or give reasons for people to join this amazing wagon on Obi. Or just continue doing what you're doing and get eliminated. This post is the same shit. | ||
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Tictock
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If you think that the Dandel game could become real then you outed yourself as mafia and that you have a QT with new mafia members. Not only is that extremely anti-town but it's pretty much anti-game and if it did become fulfilled is almost modkillable. Same shit here, Why is it not valid for it to be possibke for Dandel's stuff to be real but not want it to be? Didn't you(HF) also post that the Dandel mafia not outing themselves makes them scum? But here you say doing that is anti-town? Like wtf is your logic HF? | ||
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On January 10 2021 12:42 Holyflare wrote: People who are in a QT with wave should own up to it or forever be branded mafia. | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Gotta do lunch for kids and stuff before putting youngest for nap. I will post my reasoning for obi and then you guys can do what you will; I'm going to nap myself and won't be around for lynch I would really have liked tictocks input specifically on obi but without that I'll still post what I can. I see why you feel his stuff in the QT was weird but I'm not sure it makes him mafia. I need to reread the QT though | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote: SO y'all can take this with a few caveats. Some of this is not very strong reasoning, some of it I want to be true more than actually is. I will fully admit here to not being good at town. I'm good at looking very townie when I want to---this particular game I didn't feel like it for reasons stated earlier. What I'm not great at is scumhunting so again, y'all can take with a grain of salt. Me Obi and unnamed thir dperson (for now) talking bak and forth a little. I warned them in advance I was going to scumclaim for the reasons I stated here---that I was increasingly disbelieving this was real especially due to my vanilla status. My scummates did not claim their roles or abilities to very much degree as I did. At one point Obi (and I'll paraphrase here) said something along the lines of 'I hope this isn't real because if we're scum this game is going to suck,' which he admitted after he had edited. the word 'we're' used to be 'wave is.' Basically he singled me out for some reason as it sucking going forward if I were really scum (n0) even though I scumclaimed, then fixing it because he realized it would suck equally as we're all in the same boat---but that edit reeks of some other information or way of thinking. The fact that he doesn't automatically think we're all in the same boat as being town n0 then 'turning into scum' with Dandel's D1 addition feels like s lip. I will fully admit a great deal of the time scumslipping really isn't, but I'd look more at that weird mentality difference than what he said specifically. There's other stuff. The softball questions that amount to nothing throughout the early game, refusing to take a stance or commit to much of anything., I will also admit part of me wants to be right because of something regarding Among Us---which HF can maybe vouch for if he was around? I think Conversion can. Yams can. It's very meta and I don't want to out my reasoning on this last one entirely because it ruins a read i have on him in that game so you can probably gnore this part lol Just to add my interpretation, though Waves description of what happened is accurate. I read Obis statement more like he thought Wave sucked as mafia and didn't want to play as scum with him, or that he was convinced Wave was going to be lynched so if our "team" turned real we would be a man down. He said as much in another post than what Wave was discussing here. From the rest of his messages though I see Obi wasn't sure if Dandel's stuff was or was not going to be perminant so that may have been part of it. Idk, I'm going to make a separate post of my thoughts about Dandel essentialy makng the three of us masons for a day. One more interesting thing though from that QT though, I dropped the idea that I had a way to save Wave from the lynch. Dandel's role for me did say it had something like that, not that I was ever going to use it, but wanted to see what Wave would say. He told me I shouldn't do it. Take that as you will. | ||
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Tictock
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By this I mean his only legitimate sounding posts, where he was pushing Dandel were later claimed to be RP and then his vote is somehow stuck on essentially no lynch because he fucked up? This sounds really suspect to me as it could easily be an excuse to not vote (what is supposed to be towns really power) and hand Wave away a fair chuck of his posts. | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:53 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2021 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you think that today isn't real why would you have any hard stances on anyone? Literally all of today is pointless outside of n0. -.- Today is very much real. You just have to ignore dandels shennanigans. What is so complicated about this? I too do not know why this was so hard, but you also thought my in thread vote on HF was somehow real so he got you too. | ||
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On January 11 2021 02:57 WaveofShadow wrote: That's not obvious to me at all, especially since he's been spouting that Show nested quote + On January 11 2021 02:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you think that today isn't real why would you have any hard stances on anyone? Literally all of today is pointless outside of n0. -.- Humm, that is contradictory to what he was saying in QT. Kus in there is seemed worried it was permanent. | ||
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On January 11 2021 04:02 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On January 10 2021 18:59 Tictock wrote: On January 10 2021 12:17 Alakaslam wrote: On January 10 2021 11:02 Tictock wrote: On January 09 2021 10:13 Alakaslam wrote: On January 09 2021 10:11 yamato77 wrote: On January 09 2021 10:06 Alakaslam wrote: On January 09 2021 09:20 yamato77 wrote: On January 09 2021 09:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why are people so convinced dandel is scum? I guess that's mostly slam but I don't get it. It definitely is all Slam and he hasn't given any reason afaik The reason is the whole shenanigan with replacing the host looks to me like a scum power The OP clearly says that roles have no correlation to alignment Still. What this is causing just looks like scum. You have to correlate roles to alignment! Are you gonna make scum a parity cop? I guess you could... Are you gonna make a townie godfather? Every townie that isn’t also a miller is a godfather! What makes you think this game has roles like that? Like which? For dandels, it’s obvious so I was making a point in reply to Yamato (I think?) saying something about not being able to discern alignments from roles; this was my way of trying to express why I disbelieve it. Just, from everything I have seen this game has very custom roles hand created for this game. You brush off a point that the OP says roles don't define alignment by refferancing normal roles designed for certain alignments. So what does it matter that those roles you listed can't be balanced if they are not in the game? Thus, why are you assuming they are? Though I suppose this also means my assessment that Dandel is 3P is null as he could be trying to achieve a win con of his as any alignment. I still would rather sort it out when his abilites are not active to avoid that. Good points, thanks for clarifying. My point is that I believe you can’t completely separate the uses of a role from it’s alignment. So, to illustrate why I believe this, I used normal game roles because I don’t know what roles are in this particular game. But Dandel Is not helping town Could easily be helping scum I want him lynched. That line of reasoning. I whole heatedly agree with the bolded. This is exactly why I chose to help enable Dandel's role N0, because how he used it would be more telling than what it was. This is also why I wasn't mad at myself for pushing a mafia!Rayn into mayor last game. I should have caught it but I think the way he immediately changed to wanting to lynch who the thread wanted from who he wanted when he suddenly was going to be elected was actually a big scum tell. | ||
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Tictock
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On the one hand he removed himself from the game and caused a fair bit of confusion. Both of which are fairly anti-town... Actually if he is town is it that bad to remove self as a target for a day? As a scum ability it actually would be pretty OP to force a mislynch. The other hand is that it was ultimately all fluff and the game is now back to as normal as this game will be. So in that sense his ability was a ton of flavor but pretty weak. The flavor was too notch though, besides the continued joke relating my name to TikToc. I was clearly here first and no silly video app should define me. I have also been using Tictock as a username since like 2010 so :p | ||
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On January 11 2021 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##vote Dandel Ion On January 11 2021 04:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2021 04:42 justanothertownie wrote: On January 11 2021 04:41 ShoCkeyy wrote: On January 11 2021 04:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 11 2021 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##vote Dandel Ion You are aware that the daypost states that we cannot lynch Dandel, yes? Yes, but why does he count others and not mine? Who cares? Why do you not want to lynch anyone? I care? And only other person I’m lynching today is conversion. I’ve already stated it like three-four times, are you reading? Uhh... I am pretty sure I was the only person to vote for conversion yesterday, this is laughable hypocritical-ness right here or just straight mafia. Probably mafia. | ||
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Thought he said "only person I'm lynching today is conversion" right after voting Dandel. Lol | ||
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Once per game, you may channel your Discord moderator powers and PM the host the names of three surviving players. At the end of the phase, any surviving players you have chosen will be placed into a "Discord Sleeper Cell" Quicktopic. This sleeper cell will have access to 1-shot KP, which can be used during any night phase if a majority of sleeper cell members agree on a target. You also secretly have access to this Quicktopic, but you cannot post in it or vote for KP. Creating QTs might be a theme this game. Cool way to give town KP though. | ||
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