EPT[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2
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It seems like there's a lot of interest from how fast this filled. | ||
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I don't really care either way. From what I gather the corruption levels are probably the most important thing from the database and making sure the right number of people goes there probably makes more of a difference than any of options you get to choose from. I won't be doing anything though so if other people don't want to go then I'll go. | ||
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On October 29 2020 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: but since grack said that i vote that AT LEAST grack goes :D That'll show me.  | ||
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On October 29 2020 01:10 Hapahauli wrote: Ah, I thought that Acro had suggested the resistance game, and it was actually Dirkzor. If I was purely 3p, I wouldn't claim. A pure 3p wouldn't likely get any advantage from giving town information. I'll give you that. I think it's a terrible idea to volunteer that you have an alternative win-con as 3P. All it does is generate suspicion on you and give an easy push for mafia. | ||
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On October 29 2020 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: why is hapa not mafia? your post implicates that there is no chance he is mafia. It's possible but then I think he'd probably be a mafia with an alternate win condition which is a little stranger than town with one imo. | ||
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Because it's convoluted and generally a dumb thing to make up? I have never entered a game as mafia and thought, "hmmm... I think I'll win over town's trust by claiming a 2nd win condition!" I don't think Hapa would think like that either. | ||
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On October 29 2020 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: fucking grack... lol | ||
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On October 29 2020 08:25 Onegu wrote: Also I may have lost something so if you find something it is most likely mine and should be returned asap. Thank you! What are you looking for? If it's a lemon I've been searching for 8 years and if it's a banana I didn't give it to you. | ||
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On October 30 2020 01:18 iamperfection wrote: The counter is at 1 anyways everyone could go tonight no? We could theoretically. It might make sense if we think Mafia have better actions than town but it's kind of hard to check who actually goes from the options available. Maybe you could make everybody visit the person above/below them and check whether they have a role that was in a previous aperture game. With that option I think you could at least potentially catch some people lying. | ||
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I think Koshi may be the mastermind behind the whole plot. | ||
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Press the SPACE TIME DESTABILIZATION in thread to get a powerful ability in 5 phases times. Also you return 3rd party/non-town to checks. hmmm.... | ||
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On October 30 2020 11:49 ShoCkeyy wrote: Not a lot of discussion was had around this. So are you saying you have an ability since you want to visit?  What do you mean? | ||
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On October 30 2020 12:03 ShoCkeyy wrote: Was just poking to see. "Each night, a player, instead of performing any action they may have, may visit the database and target another player. " So a player visiting may have an action, wanted to see if you're also a special role. That's saying that any player can visit the database instead of using their role's night action (if they have one one.) | ||
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I didn't go to the database the plan seemed unclear when I went to bed. | ||
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As mafia you get to choose who goes in what group to stack the lynches how you want them, and the mafia didn't get any NKs last night. | ||
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You were basing your reads off of reactions to it earlier. | ||
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It looks like I'm the only player here who played in the original, so I have critical information about the lemons! | ||
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On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote: Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something? Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together. @Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here. @dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo. I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon. I think it's a bit suspicious that Acro is sticking with his town read on me based off volunteering to go to the database when lots of other players did so afterwords including both Onegu and ShoCkkey. I haven't made any effort at all to analyze posts yet. I'm going to start filter diving tonight. | ||
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Just from how he freaked out thinking he caught you. | ||
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Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch. | ||
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I only read the alignment/item section. | ||
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On October 31 2020 01:53 Grackaroni wrote: I was thinking that raising the corruption would give mafia KP after the no kill this turn. Too bad I didn't say it or I could have been smart like Koshi. It looks like I'm the only player here who played in the original, so I have critical information about the lemons! I've been playing the long-con. | ||
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Are people talking about how Grackaroni correctly assessed the Hapahauli win-con claim situation (very confidenly as Hapa may add!) and that Hapahauli may slay Acrofales fully clearing Grackaroni in the eyes of Raynpelikoneet? | ||
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In the first 10 pages I actually think Acro comes off as townier than anyone. I got overexcited that he'd be scum because I saw Koshi/Rayn bashing on him in the other thread and Hapa pushing him in this one but I think he actually looks townier than Rayn so far. On October 29 2020 00:19 Hapahauli wrote: Slightly town. I did like his thoughts about the game mechanic. However, him thinking critically about the game mechanic can mean any number of things: 1) Pro-town contribution from a player who is thinking about how to get information for the town; 2) A third-party who's win-condition is somehow tied to usage of the TL Mafia Database; 3) A mafia member who has enough extra information about the Database to know that his idea is either pro-mafia or ultimately harmless to mafia's objectives. I lean towards #1, because the information deficit of town is a disadvantage to town in the theme games I have played. 2nd option to me still seems exceedingly obvious to me. From the start of the game Dirkzor talks about how he wants to check what raising the corruption counter will do and then he raises it by himself anyway mid-day. I would not do that as town in return for what he calls a hint in 5 phases. Whatever he's getting from doing it is empowering himself to achieve his own win condition. I'm quite confident about that. | ||
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On November 01 2020 01:23 Dirkzor wrote: Have you had an origional thought of your own this game? I just gave one in the post you quoted. No need to be upset if I don't believe your claim. | ||
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On October 30 2020 04:21 Dirkzor wrote: Grack is most likely scum. Not that many posts. Just enough to not be at the bottom. No real follow through on anything. He don't like my claim but doesnt do anything with it beside stating it. Why not push me if you think im a liar. Your push on me seems to have started when I called out your claim to begin with, and now when I mention it again you're complaining that it's unoriginal and people have already talked about it lol. I understand why people are null/scum on me for not contributing but then you start coloring people as scum by association with me. What kind of response did you expect people to give about me. On October 30 2020 04:50 Dirkzor wrote: Actually. The more i read shockeys filter the more i think a Grack + Shockey scum team fits. Its like what? is it a mafie lean or a null? Reads to me like you wanted to bus your teammate just a little by putting him under slight mafia and then couldnt think of a thing that makes him scum so you wrote null... You also called him town and scum in the same sentence. You have zero interaction with grack and vice versa Soon going to bed. On October 30 2020 05:25 Dirkzor wrote: Why dont you care about grack? even if he havent said anything about you, caring about him figuring out his alignment is important yes? Also i agree that 2 people posting at the same time would be weird as scum. But you jumping on my (and others) scum read is not... On October 30 2020 16:29 Dirkzor wrote: If i die tonight i think you should get rid of grack. twice he have called my claim sus without really doing anything with it. Trying to build pressure without taking responsibility. And rest of posting are just sort of there. I could do more to try to lynch you. From what I recall from the thread I was the one that gave your claim the most trouble. I think Koshi thought it was non-town as well in the other thread but that came later. On October 31 2020 23:57 Dirkzor wrote: I still think grack is out best lynch followed by onegu at this point. Hopefully i get around to make a real case on grack later. For now lets just say he havent done anything. He promised a filterdive that never came. He pushes only a little bit but never for reals (my claim and also in the shocks/acro case). His post with colors is just soo over the top to me. @other thread: you going to no lynch or what is the plan? What are your thoughts on grack as a lynch here? I hope you get to that case on me Dirkzor because I want you to be better. We wouldn't want somebody trying to build pressure for a lynch without taking responsibility. @other thread. Could you give me some reasons for lynching Dirkzor? | ||
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On November 01 2020 01:34 Dirkzor wrote: How do you call that an original thought when you yourself just rehashed hapas post. Even me talking about corruption counter at the beginning have been mentioned before. Im not upset you don't believe me claim. To be honest of im surprised more havent been critical. Im mad because it seems like your not even trying. I want you to do better. Also I didn't rehash Hapa's post. He gave 3 options and I tried to point towards why it's more likely the second option. | ||
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My impression is that you jumped on Slam because it seemed like the thread was turning on you and he was sheeping Rayn's opinion uncritically. Going back and quoting Slam talk about how much he likes scum hunting to say that it was a contradiction was not the best look imo. I also didn't really appreciate the C+ or w/e. You say I'm thinking about your claim logically. Even if I am mafia I won't be able to know whether you are town or 3rd party, so why should I be more or less paranoid about you based off my alignment. | ||
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On October 30 2020 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: Interesting that both Dirk and Onegu decided to claim I'm mafia at the same time : ) Also it seems like Grack and I are never around at the same time which is why there's never discussion between us. I have a slight scum read on grack, but that doesn't mean I need to claim he's mafia. I don't know who the fuck is mafia just yet which is why he's also a null. Like I personally don't think there's a problem having some one on null/mafia lean in a list. Though you're not making me look great lol. | ||
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On October 30 2020 16:27 yamato77 wrote: Think critically about this game and how I've played. I come into the thread with a Shockey scumread and you DECLARE that he's town. You lied. You call me mafia (at least partly) because my scumread of Shockey is "too easy". You then recent your claim and try to ask the EXACT SAME QUESTIONS to Shockey about his motivations and the inherent logical inconsistencies in his posts that I already pointed at while apparently continue to believe that my suspicion of him comes from a mafia perspective? How does that make sense, exactly? Why should I trust a player who plays like this? How am I supposed to interact with you? These are questions I do not have an answer to. I just have to assume your alignment at some point because I cannot make a whole lot of sense out of what's going on there. I don't think this is very out of character for Rayn. No doubt he feels confident in his ability to read ShoCkkey over everybody else and even while reading it at the time it was clear Rayn didn't have any extra information on ShoCkkey from his role. I do think Yamato seems pretty townie from the way he's approached his reads on ShoCkkey and Rayn. Plus he's always been super bad/inactive as mafia historically, but of course there's been lots of time for him to improve as well. | ||
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On November 01 2020 04:37 Dirkzor wrote: What does this even mean? its mean absolutely nothing. No one in this game would never ever be mafia. (beside oneself). This is what i mean. You don't try enough. Its just so much nonsense (most of the time). This is so much bull. You can't use my word and turn them around. Thats not how this works. You didnt give my claim trouble. You posted 2 times: one that i was 3rd party with my own agenda and what can be summed down to "hmm" with fancy colors. Thats not giving me trouble. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2020 01:25 Grackaroni wrote: We could theoretically. It might make sense if we think Mafia have better actions than town but it's kind of hard to check who actually goes from the options available. Maybe you could make everybody visit the person above/below them and check whether they have a role that was in a previous aperture game. With that option I think you could at least potentially catch some people lying. On October 30 2020 10:16 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know why people would trust the Dirkzor claim. Press the SPACE TIME DESTABILIZATION in thread to get a powerful ability in 5 phases times. Also you return 3rd party/non-town to checks. hmmm.... I will give my shockey/grack moment was a bit of an overreach. But i wanted to see what came of it. But, as i wrote in a separate post, your whole: "I dont know mafia KP mechanics" sorta gives you a saving grace for now. I don't think mafia would fake not knowing their own abilities. Rayn said in the other thread that Koshi was never ever mafia in this game and I was just responding to that. Although I will admit that I also really enjoy posting nonsense. I'm in the process of making a reads list now. I'm not one to usually make lots of early reads unless there's something that really pings me on way or the other, so I tend to do a lot of shit posting to whatever I see in the thread early on. Your claim being suspicious has been pretty much the only read I'd posted in D0/N0. I think it's pretty clear why I think it's suspicious. On October 30 2020 00:18 Grackaroni wrote: It seems like Dirkzor is pretty clearly third party but needed to destabilize in the thread to setup for his win condition. I think he knew that he would be a likely check and wanted to preempt that by just telling us he'd return as 3rd party/non-town. On October 30 2020 10:16 Grackaroni wrote: I don't know why people would trust the Dirkzor claim. Press the SPACE TIME DESTABILIZATION in thread to get a powerful ability in 5 phases times. Also you return 3rd party/non-town to checks. hmmm.... When I mentioned while doing my reread that you also started out being cautious about what the next level of corruption would do and then came into the thread looking to catch 3rd parties and you lashed out at me for mentioning it again. And what I said was pretty blatantly different from what Hapa said. Using people's words and turning them around on them is kind of how mafia works. If you're bothered that I'm not putting enough effort or that I'm casting suspicion on your claim I understand that. For what it's worth I don't think my dumb tell is worth removing me from the lynch pool. I could easily be lying about what I do/don't know. | ||
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Yamato I think Yamato comes off pretty well so far. His frustration with Rayn brushing off his ShoCkkey posts because Rayn knows better seems genuine and I like the way he's pushing his reads. Rayn Rayn has at least seemed confident in his read on ShoCkkey and seems to be in the process of writing some people off as town, which to me is a good sign for him as opposed to him just burying someone. I don't think he's cleared himself by any means but it doesn't seem like he's pushing a scum agenda at the moment. ShoCkkey - I'm wavering a lot on this one. His list post was pretty atrocious and it was pretty much the only thing he posted that had anything to do with people's alignments. He gives a read on Dirkzor without even reading his claim, and what's the point of writing out a list if you don't have much to say to begin with. We don't really have enough information to know what happened with the kill. It's possible ShoCkkey just bussed himself with Iamp to avoid checks and freaked out when it was visible from the actions that he did that so he started ranting about catching Acro with his pants down. Hapahauli - He pinged the right posts if Acrofales is mafia. I think his filter is pretty lackluster compared to his norm. I don't see any reason for lynching him today and it seems like nobody else does either. Dirkzor. I think his claim points heavily towards being 3rd party and he's been fixated on getting rid of me for not trying hard enough to lynch him during day 0. I could definitely try harder. Acrofales I think the case he made on ShoCkkey was really bad. It was a huge reach to take that ShoCkkey called himself an analytical player and use that to say that he was too confident in having a town read on the player that everyone in the thread was town reading. I was also considering sending only Iamp as a potentially good option at one point, but I don't think I ended up saying it. I think he dropped off quite a bit from the start of the game and he is guilty of playing thread cop like Hapa said. I did like his response though to why he was writing me off earlier. On October 31 2020 02:10 Acrofales wrote: My read wasn't off the volunteering, it was off the speed at which you volunteered. By the time onegu and shockeyy came in, plenty of time had passed for scum to come up with a plan to deal with the database and corruption, but you volunteered early and that struck me. Anyway, reading some filters. I'm not nearly as confident as other people in the Acro lynch (it seems like he's close to universally scum read) but I don't think it's a bad lynch at the moment. Onegu - playing anti-town and proud of it. Chose to go to the database without consulting people because Onegu won't be told what to do. Could easily be either alignment, but he's earned the red name all the same. | ||
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On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote: The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town. I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated. I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided. The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be. Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia? | ||
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On November 02 2020 06:16 Dirkzor wrote: Everyone agree that only iamp goes database tonight? I want written confirmation! Sure. | ||
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If you're really worried about roleblock I'm still not doing anything tonight. I'm not sure that mafia can reliably count on nobody else going to prioritize role blocking you. There are probably enough wildcards between 3rd party and independent minded townies. | ||
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Dirkzor/Hapa aren't teammates with Acro, but I've never thought either of them would be red to begin with. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Onegu hammered his teammate. Otherwise there's 2 in the other thread. | ||
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On November 02 2020 22:57 Koshi wrote: Maybe Acro was supermad at Shockkey for ruining their plans, telling the thread he is a busdriver, and they had a mafia stand-off? Is this possible? I haven't read the conversation between them in depth. And I remember nothing. It wasn't really coherent. Acro pointed out that Iamp/ShoCkkey were swapped and that ShoCkkey wasn't meant to be in the thread and ShoCkkey started yelling in response that Acro must have tried to shoot him because why else shouldn't he (ShoCkkey) be there. | ||
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On November 02 2020 23:26 yamato77 wrote: -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -licks fondly- How did I miss that | ||
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On November 02 2020 23:38 Dirkzor wrote: What im reading is that Yamato is now a dog. Someone give him a bone? Dogs aren't really known for eating carrots. | ||
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I'm thinking of playing as a bowl of noodles. | ||
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On November 02 2020 23:51 Koshi wrote: I hate Russian dolls. They're so full of themselves.  rains water* | ||
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On November 03 2020 00:42 Hapahauli wrote: The player that looks the worst from Day 1 is Grack IMO. As I stated before, he poked and prodded all of Day 1 and didn't make any commitments on Acro until SUPER LATE in the day, when it was pretty clear that everyone wanted Acro dead. I don't think that's true. I spent like half of that day reading through the thread from the start and there wasn't much of a consensus or really any activity at all. You dropped your case and left. Dirkzor voted 3 different people and then I voted Acro rather than try to go for a lynch of my own. I don't think Acro would be dead if I didn't put my vote there. | ||
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On November 03 2020 00:46 Hapahauli wrote: Literally all of thread B was screaming for Acro's head. Are you telling me that you didn't pay attention to that at all? Well that's true but they don't get a vote. | ||
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On November 03 2020 00:49 iamperfection wrote: for the record that thread was the A thread. your thread felt like more of a B thread. You guys didn't even lynch lol | ||
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On November 03 2020 00:50 Koshi wrote: Literally in a list with the people I call mafia. Like I call Acro/slam/Onegu mafia and lynchworthy and I am fucking mafia with them. Dafuq. Yeah but who else are you going to call mafia. | ||
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On October 30 2020 16:41 Dirkzor wrote: To be fair your buried your acro "case" in a the last paragraph in a very long post. I do think acro is also a but scummy, but not as much as grack. After reading his acros filter i stumbled upon one of his very first posts: Why ask to Koshi? He have posted once and that was his /in. No reason to think he was here. Myself and ray had just posted before game start so make sense... but not Koshi. Posts like this come from someone who knows Acro is mafia and is already looking to imply that Koshi is his partner. There's absolutely no reason to ping that post as town. | ||
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I don't see town looking through a filter and seeing that as the most pertinent information worth quoting. | ||
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On November 03 2020 06:23 Hapahauli wrote: Also FWIW, I intend to essentially claim my role at the end of N2, including what my 3p win condition is. At this point, I believe I can satisfy my condition while simultaneously being pro-town. | ||
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On November 03 2020 21:55 Koshi wrote: Good talk Grack The election is rigged. The FAKE NEWS (and very low ratings) "Greymist" has perpetrated the biggest hoax in the history of this mafia thread. Millions of beautiful Grackaroni ballots have been stolen from our Alakaslams. We are winning in the polls like never before. | ||
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Poll: Who is the GREATEST? Stinky Yamato (*poooooops*) (3) Grackaroni (the Great) (2) Crooked Dirkzor (SEE CORRUPTION COUNTER) (1) Shady 'Hapa' Hauli (Illegal. Check birth certificate) (1) 7 total votes Your vote: Who is the GREATEST? (Vote): Grackaroni (the Great) | ||
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GRACKARONI WINS POLL IN LANDSLIDE ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NIjNl7w.png) | ||
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On November 03 2020 22:35 Grackaroni wrote: GRACKARONI WINS POLL IN LANDSLIDE Thank you Grack Times News! | ||
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On November 03 2020 22:40 Koshi wrote: and now you will make some indepth post why it is impossible and I couldn't give a flying fuck rayn. Couldn't give a single fuck. That's the spirit! | ||
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Anything important I should know? | ||
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Do scum really leave Ticktock/Slam together in a lynch against Koshi/Rayn/Yamato/Iamp. Seems like they massively misused their roles. | ||
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If it's not Slam then it's going to be Dirkzor. I know I'm not mafia. Dirkzor poked around a few places for the day1 lynch and probably moved his vote to Acro because the townies in the other thread were all pushing for lynching him. There was no indication that Onegu/I were going to come in and vote on Hapa, and I think he had every reason to believe the lynch could still move around with time to somebody else. Slam/I need to be cleared out anyway and it seems like town has a big enough lead at the moment to do that. | ||
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If Dirkzor's role is legit there should be someone with an investigatory role in the game other than Dirkzor since Dirkzor returns non-town/3rd party to checks. Otherwise it would defeat the purpose of making the in thread corruption raising dude a miller. | ||
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On November 05 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote: Actually, that kinda depends on how we interpret the mechanics, and whether or not a "majority" in one "thread" constitutes a "majority" for the purposes of activating TT's role. Need to ask Greymist. You might not be able to activate that in a secret vote. It requires Greymist giving information about how people voted. | ||
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On November 05 2020 01:26 Hapahauli wrote: What do you mean? My assumption is that I was RB'd by mafia, since no townie has claimed responsibility, and given Acro's interactions with me regarding my KP. I should have phrased that as a question for ShoCkkey On November 05 2020 01:11 ShoCkeyy wrote: It doesn’t add up, I got rb n1, Hapa got rb N0 but not By mafia. So then who did mafia rb N0? | ||
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On November 05 2020 11:09 iamperfection wrote: well i dont think we ever figured out if you can go to database and kill dunno. I'll let you know. | ||
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On November 05 2020 21:07 Hapahauli wrote: Oh, Koshi visited Dirk last night. You’re welcome town. Interesting... | ||
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On November 05 2020 21:38 Hapahauli wrote: Crack, did you visit the database? Yeah I went but I used it on Dirkzor lol. I've discovered that he is currently being affected by death. | ||
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On November 05 2020 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: I went because if Slam is not lying it shouldnt matter. I checked Grack (obviously) and Grack hasn't used any parts of his role. So he cannot be mafia. And Slam is lying. That's true I haven't. If people aren't claiming roleblocks in thread then mafia should be using their role. | ||
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On November 05 2020 22:12 Hapahauli wrote: So mafia knew that the threads would be split 2-7 and 1+8-12, and the plan was to have Acro/Shockey hardcore bus each other in Thread A? I wouldn't say they hard core bussed each other. Acro got lynched by everybody but ShoCkkey if I recall correctly. With ShoCkkey/Acro in one thread they should feel confident in lynching me or Onegu and maybe they thought TT could hold his own against Slam in the other thread. On November 05 2020 22:17 Koshi wrote: Also, is there a reason to discard that mafia just pretended a buss drive occurred? Maybe they just placed iamp and Shockey in different groups. And Shockey just did a RB on Hapa. But yeah there are things I don't understand  Brilliant. Especially if you healed Iamp already anyway then since he already has an interaction with Iamp he just claims the heal for himself. Nobody's going to out themselves to claim a heal on Iamp to dispute him. | ||
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I don't follow why Iamp would have to be mafia though. | ||
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On November 05 2020 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: there is no way shockeyy is ONLY roleblocker because that means iamp is mafia and iamp cannot be mafia because he would have to be the roleblocker shockeyy already is. | ||
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On November 05 2020 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: when was this and what did he see? He had a different check between Iamp/Onegu so for the check to point to ShoCkkey he had to have been bussed rather than Acro splitting the groups. | ||
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On November 05 2020 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: iamp confirmed went to the database N0. Unless mafia knows what the corruption level rising does. Therefore iamp cannot roleblock anyone N0. Also why hasn't mafia killed anyone until now? no mafia was roleblocked and only mafia was saved N0-N1 if iamp is mafia (both shockeyy and Koshi have claimed to save iamp N0 and Koshi N1). Ohhhh. That explains a lot. | ||
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On November 05 2020 22:45 Koshi wrote: Dirkzor for sure is not messing with us. That would be evul x 1000000. 100% sure. Ok. So let's say iamp and Shockey were really bussdriven and Dirkzor has now a check on Shockey that is not the same as Onegu. Why is Shockey town then? Yeah I don't think he was messing with us. It's just he couldn't claim results until now because his new win condition was to survive 5 phases. | ||
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On November 05 2020 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: lies lies lies. I think I see. So we had 9 alive and a majority is 5, so then us 3 going made up more than half a majority if Slam counts counts as well. | ||
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On November 05 2020 22:57 ShoCkeyy wrote: Dirk literally claims iamp and onegu aren’t the same role, and some how Koshi and Hapa are saying dirk checked me... can you guys read? You bus drove yourself with Iamp on that night. | ||
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It sounds like ShoCkkey's role inverses actions (makes them do the opposite). So a heal turns into a kill. | ||
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On November 05 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote: Yes we know mafia gets all info slam. Thank you. lmao | ||
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On November 06 2020 00:49 Hapahauli wrote: Or it's Grack because he is sitting back and watching all this shit happen. That's what my gut says. It really can't be me though unless mafia has a role that isn't worth using for 3 turns. | ||
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That's a valuable role! | ||
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On November 06 2020 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: could you use that? even if you wanted to? Well mafia haven't gotten a kill in 3 nights now so I think a roleblock could come in handy. | ||
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Oh right. Well I wouldn't have even killed him if he wasn't mafia he was going to be 3rd party. | ||
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Yamato bringing mafia back into the game. | ||
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On November 06 2020 02:51 iamperfection wrote: sorry for having the high standards of reading the thread and remembering to vote. We all make mistakes. Don't beat yourself up. | ||
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On November 06 2020 08:42 iamperfection wrote: kill two town members. Complains about thread that almost successfully double lynched scum. Just Yamato things Technically 3 if we count Koshi/Onegu plus self-sacrifice | ||
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On November 06 2020 10:07 ShoCkeyy wrote: God... Between my baby, the US elections, and this thread, my anxiety is through the roof from all the constant waiting for things out of my control. Biden is going to win with Pennsylvania. He's running decently ahead of Clinton in almost all of the completed counties. | ||
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On November 07 2020 11:30 GreYMisT wrote: Technically I am a forum oldie that no one has seen in a while Who are you? Thanks for hosting. The setup was awesome as always. | ||
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