EPTAre we just assuming rayn is town? I struggle with reading him always but it seems like quite a deep assumption among everyone here and I admit to not really getting why. Educate me.
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Jockmcplop
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Are we just assuming rayn is town? I struggle with reading him always but it seems like quite a deep assumption among everyone here and I admit to not really getting why. Educate me. | ||
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On July 13 2020 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can educate you. I was the only person who ACTUALLY had a good reason to push lynch on Trfel. I mean bussing is one thing but even if i am bussing i dont actually want my teammate to die. For example i dont think as mafia i would have ever asked shockeyy to take a stance on Trfel vs Slam because regardless of my affiliation i thought shockeyy would vote for Trfel since you thought Slam is mafia and you were shockeyy's scumread. What i can say with 100% certainty is that i would have never ever killed TT N1. Never fucking ever would i have done that. Period. VE knows this and this is one of the reasons why VE is also town like with 99% certainty. If VE knows this i wish you had waited for VE to say it tbh. But these are still good points. | ||
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On July 13 2020 23:41 CopCake wrote: Ok Jock, who is mafia? Right now I can think of reasons why most people could be mafia. I think its most likely VE, but chez and slam are two good candidates as well. There's no way I can be convinced by rayn's logic on VE as its pretty specific to rayn and his understanding of both his own and VE's play. As far as I'm concerned VE has done some pretty scummy stuff. I'm going to go and have another look at the cases people have made against him. When it comes to you, you seem very paranoid at the moment, but in a less townie way than before. Its more paranoia about being a wagon tomorrow and that is pinging me. Rayn... I dunno. Town I guess. He was the only one who seemed to really want trfel dead. | ||
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I checked VE and he didn't visit anyone. | ||
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On July 14 2020 02:10 Alakaslam wrote: Cake mvp Who did you track Jock? ##Vote: Jockmcplop Wp. Lynch should be between me and Jock today. If you want me out first then feel free i already said! I tracked VE and he didn't visit anyone. Mafia is in you, chez and rayn. | ||
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One of you two is mafia then. | ||
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I don't think slam would try and go 1v1 against me if he's mafia. Also the only way rayn could have 'played a perfect game' is if he's mafia because he voted town on day 2. ##unvote vote: raynpelikoneet | ||
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Works for me. Slam alread voted me you would be at an advantage anyway. | ||
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On July 14 2020 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i voted for trfel and then you, both of which are mafia. And never teally considered anyone else before your claim.  So why did you vote for slam? | ||
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Its so obvious though. Why would I kill TT night one? I wouldn't, you or chezinu are dangerous to me when i'm scum, i would have killed one of you. Why would I go for you instead of slam now? That's insane if i'm mafia. From a town perspective it makes much more sense because slam wouldn't start the day like he did if he's scum. | ||
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On July 14 2020 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah its jock but i think we need to lynch slam first, sorry. This is sooo bad. Why would this ever be a town tactic when town rayn (who apparently thinks my claim is fake) is a likely candidate for NK tonight and might not be here to lynch me tomorrow? | ||
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On July 14 2020 04:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: ebwop fixed quotes: Why should i vote for you if i am town? Like literally from your perspective you cannot even know if i am mafia if you're town so why should i vote for you if i am town? Why did i let you clear VE which you effectively did in case i am mafia? Do you think i think that's the best play for me as mafia? Why is that? Because (i am sorry) you do dumb shit. You do dumb shit and i knew shockeyy does dumb shit (like he killed me over hapa in that one game for no reason) and i thought cake could do dumb shit. Maybe slam. idk, i dont do dumb shit, someone did. Are you really asking this? Like at least twice you have put up the "why would i do this as mafia" when you actually are mafia and did something you think people wouldn't think you'd do as mafia and that's exactly what you did. I am playing the 1% that you're actually town, Slam is mafia if you're not. Go back to phase one on this post. I told you you are dead if you are mafia and yeah, if it's not you it's Slam and you're dead after the next night. I am not even gonna pretend i am not voting for you the next day if i am alive. You're the ONLY player in the game that has done even REMOTELY scummy shit now that VE is clear. And you're a fucking cop that ignores the godfather and for some miraculous reason you didn't die when there is not a roleblocker for mafia. Like seriously dude, even if you are town you SHOULD have claimed roleblocked and see what the mafia does with that. You lost, you can just concede. Why do you say that VE is clear? | ||
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this is my last post. Kill rayn tomorrow. | ||
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It was stupid, yeah, but you can see why i made that mistake. Rayn was basically saying i'm lying about everything and then saying he trusts my claim, except i didn't think any deeper than that and realise that VE is clear either way. Anyway, fuck it idc if i die, just VE please don't assume i'm mafia because rayn will kill you tonight so if you can get some *other* mafia playing than talking about why i'm mafia done in the next few hours it will probably help. Rayn's got chez in his pocket for lylo anyway so i think the game's lost. If anyone reads this when i'm dead rayn is mafia. Can i just say that again, rayn is mafia. Its rayn. | ||
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On July 14 2020 11:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Yo I want nothing more than for it to be rayn. You know it. But Ryan's case in d1 isn't a mafia case. Think about it man. In that case please just start thinking out loud about who it could be that isn't me. You don't need to change your vote. Just don't waste your last day cycle. Why is rayn's case on trfel on day 1 not TMI? He deduced from a single post that trfel is mafia? | ||
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No matter that he lynched a town yesterday with us. His game was 'perfect'. 100% of his actions went exactly as he wanted. Perfect. | ||
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Who would I kill tictock over the players here with probably the most complete meta on everyone playing here? To me that kill is the key. Rayn explains that I would do it because i do dumb shit but that makes no sense if you look at my reaction to tictock's death. I immediately knew it was a terrible NK straight away and was confused by it. I would kill rayn probably 80% of the time and chez the other 20%. They are the people who have recently caught me and the players that would be dangerous to mafia me. Killing tictock reduced the 'town sentiment' PoE to me, VE and shockeyy. Look at VE's posts around that time and you'll see that I agreed the night before that that PoE made the most sense. Why on Earth would I kill TT instead of the players who might catch me as scum? It made sense to me then that the killer wasn't in the PoE at the time and was someone 'comfortable' enough to make that kill without harming their own chances. ie it was rayn, who no-one suspected at that time. I'm not trying to get out of the lynch here i'm trying to make you think about it from my POV before you die. | ||
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