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Zey
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On June 02 2020 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: - used "that would be too scummy to be scum" defense, guess what, people who do scummy things are usually scum - used "why are you looking at my scummy thing and not vivax' scummy thing??" defense. Who cares what vivax did if we are talking about what you did? Do you think this is something that Cake wouldn't do as town? Cake's point about Trfel is interesting. I would also be interested to hear why did he asked about Vivax post about akwardnes but didn't ask about rolling mafia thing. | ||
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Zey
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On June 02 2020 23:31 jeekaka wrote: I can actually see the world where Copcake is town and Scum!Trfel sees Cake's townread of Jock as an easy thing to pick up. I don't think that Trfel's question about Cake's townread was scummy. To me it just looks somebody who wants people to talk more that game would really start. It would be different if he would have said that Cake is scummy because of that. But I'm still wondering why he said that rayn's first post was scummiest entrance. I mean I don't see how it would be scummiest and I don't see how Trfel can believe that he would get any read about rayn with something like that. | ||
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Zey
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On June 02 2020 23:57 Jockmcplop wrote: So what do you think Trfel's motives could be? He wants to look like he is being active and chasing scums or he is just too excited about game and want's to do something. I'm leaning more to the first one because he also just ignored Vivax's rolling mafia post what I would say more intresting post than rayn's hi. To me it seems like he is picking somethings up without any thinking whether answers and/or reactions even can give anything. | ||
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raynpelikoneet wrote: I think the correct question is do i think she would do something like that as mafia and is it more likely she would, than as town? I am not completely certain but i am leaning on mafia side here. Because once again: - i agree with jeekaka's assessment that cake is not mafia with jock, i think its almost impossible. But if she is mafia and not with jock her defense that is like "around the topic" suddenly makes sense because she isnt even lying (the first thing she started with was the "why would i townread my mafia partner bla bla"). I know jeekaka at least semi-jokingly mulled over the idea but if cake genuinely townreads jock why doesnt she just state why she does so instead of this overly defensive "why would i" bs?? Thats what i would do if i took jeekakas post seriously like cake seemed to. - then there is the "why are you calling out me and not this other dude" thing. Again that's talking around the issue. If you did something you get called out for, you address the issue and clear it, and not flush it off by trying to talk about someone else. I dont really know why any townie would do that. Thanks. I would also say that in most cases this is scum behavior, but I'm not sure about Cake. When we have played resistance she seems like player who does play with emotion. Like she would take accusations very seriously etc. I would be interested what others think, is this something Cake would do more likely as scum? CopCake wrote: So hey Zey, do you think tfrl is town or not? Not. CopCake wrote: Tfrl read. And I just feel it, it feels scummy how he did it. My read can change? yes. I am not locking. My most locked read is Jock. Wait. Your read about Tfrel has changed? I tried to read your post again but still I don't notice that. Can you tell how and why your opinion has changed? I mean about this: On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote: Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity. Likely falling asleep soon. He picks up Vivaxs "Awkward post" but not Vivaxs post where he said he rolled mafia. I would like to know why that wasn't interesting enough to him to be picked up. | ||
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Zey
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Jock wrote: Seems like she's calling trfel town while claiming that he's not looking in the right place for scum, but if this was how i was thinking i would be suspicious that trfel ignores vivax's interesting post in favour of SRing you for 'hi!' and I'd probably be at least a little bit curious as to why. I'm not thinking that he is ignoring Vivax if you was saying that. He asked why Vivax thought someones post was awkward so I don't think he's ignoring Vivax. Jock wrote: The explanation that trfel was just being active and chasing scum doesn't make sense if trfel is ignoring the interesting stuff in the thread. Yeah, but it is only town reason I can think of and you asked motives (not motive) so I thought you wanted to hear his motive as scum and town. | ||
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Zey
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raynpelikoneet wrote: I am pretty sure Zey has misinterpreted that one post. Vivax wasnt saying he rolled mafia. Wasn't he? I mean he was drunk or something and wrote wrong but I thought he said that he rolled mafia. raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait what are you saying you think Trfel is, Zey? Scum. | ||
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Jock wrote: So you made something up so you could tell me what you thought i wanted to hear? No. You asked what I think could be his motives as town and as scum. And that was what I told you. I don't know any other reason why town would do that. rayn wrote: And no, vivax wasnt saying he rolled scum. He was referring to the last game where he was scum and i completely misread him as he normally rolls over and dies as mafia but there he actually played a shit strong mafia game. Oh, that make sense. Maybe I should read that part again keeping this in my mind. Sho wrote: Why is Zey removing the time stamps? That seems scummy as hell to try and paint a narrative that can be falsified later in the game :O Because I'm used to just copy text and write by myself the quote stuff and I'm too lazy to figure out about time. If you want me to use time stamps please tell me how I can do easily multiple quotes in the same post without writing them by myself. raynpelikoneet wrote: So i had to try really hard to get Zey to play this game because she isnt that experienced in english. I am not asking to cut her leeway for reads but cut her leeway for language. The jock argument (trfel) thing i see rn is language. That's what i am talking about. I dont want anyone to go through something i did here. Thanks rayn but it's ok. Last time when I played in english I swore that I would never ever play in english again. And here I am. So if I get more accusations because my bad english, its okay. I'm prepared for it. :D | ||
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Trfel wrote:Just like raynpelikoneet's entrance. To me it was the worst entrance at that point in the thread, because he didn't interact with anyone despite several people having already posted. But it's not a big deal and I don't think much of it. People have said that Trfel was just trolling rayn or something but this answer doesn’t seem like it? And really I don’t see how “hi” is worse than for example telling that you are going to have drinks. And Jocks interaction with someone was basically saying hi to Cake. So… Feels like Trfel is trying to make it seem better than it was. I don’t also like how Sho is Trfels top scumread. Feels too easy target. Jock is feeling town to me because he was trying to get my reactions. Feels like he is trying to solve the game. I don’t follow why rayn voted Vivax? Can you please explain why he’s scum? | ||
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Cake wrote: Zey are you there? Now I am. | ||
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Cake wrote: What do you think of Vivax? I don't know. I don't remember much what he has done. There was weird town reading about rayn and "rolling mafia" what I understood wrong. Thought I liked his post where he asked what people liked about my progression about Trfel. It felt like he was doing something to catch the scums. Like making opinions and trying to get other people see that also. | ||
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Tictock wrote: Zey am I correct in assuming that Trfel and myself is your most likely scumteam? I don't know can you be scums together but my top scumreads are Trfel and you. | ||
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ShoCkeyy wrote: Hey Zey lets vote Tictock I'm okay with that if there's no change to get Trfel lynched. | ||
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I don't like how Trfel suggested Cake to be lynched. Trfel wrote: I was half-joking, and did kinda think CopCake was town (though my mind quickly changed). I mean he was kinda thinking that Cake was town and only four minutes later he was suggesting that Cake should be lynched although there were his top scumread Sho also one of the people with votes. And I'm not sure why he even took those four minutes to investigate Cake? I mean if theres 3 players with votes and Trfel thinks one is his top scumread (Sho), one is kinda town (Cake) and one hasn't done any townish or scumish (Vivax), why would Trfel read Cakes post to see why she could be scum? I think it would be more logically to read Vivaxs post that see is he scum or not and/or read Shos post to find more scummy thing that could convince others. Jock wrote: I'm considering switching to copcake right now. Reasons: The voting late on which looks like self preservation, the threat to switch to trfel which i think comes from a mafia place (ensuring 3 votes on trfel because i was getting cold feet about the lynch), the early townread on me followed by reassuring me into keeping my vote on vivax. It all seems very convenient. Hmm, wasn't Cake getting cold feet before you even mentioned you were getting? rayn wrote: Zey i have a question for you: You explicitly asked me about why i scumread Vivax. Why didnt you have any follow up after my answer? I mean you must think that my case is either right or wrong or bad enough for me to be mafia. You followed the rest of the day with the thought of Vivax still not being mafia, why didnt you try to convince me voting either trfel or tictock since you vlearly thought my case is not good? After reading your post I thought you might be right about him and your reasons explained to me why you voted Vivax and not Cake. After that I went to read Vivax posts and the thread to see are your accusations right. (They are I think although I'm still not sure about Vivaxs reasons to suspect Cake.) So it made me to think that I'm okay with lynching Vivax. Didn't see the reason to change my vote although seeing how day ended I think I should have changed. | ||
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Tictock wrote: Just going off of filter I'd say Trfel going for cake actually kinda makes sense since he had questioned her early/easy townread of Jock. How it makes sense? Yeah he asked her reasoning, but here it sounds to me like he was okay with her answering: Trfel wrote: I asked CopCake about her townread on Jockmcplop because she didn't say a key part of it, that Jockmcplop's post felt genuine/sincere. Without that statement, there is no actual reason to townread Jockmcplop. I know it wasn't likely to really go anywhere, but it's the start of the game, I'll jump on anything I can And according to him even Rayns hi was more scummy than Cakes townread of Jock. AND he admitted that 4 minutes before he suggestes lynching Cake he was kinda thinking that Cake is town. So how it makes sense?? | ||
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Tictock wrote: I said I had stuff to say about Trfel, and to be honest Zey and Jeeka pretty much hit on it already but I'll briefly go over what I saw. Tictock wrote: Just going off of filter I'd say Trfel going for cake actually kinda makes sense since he had questioned her early/easy townread of Jock. How I "pretty much hit on it" if the only thing I was saying was "Trfel going for cake doesn't make sense" and you are saying that you believe that it made sense? | ||
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