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On April 05 2020 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am in search for my wife. If you married this super handsome Luca guy just tell me and i will give you immunity for day 1. I am happy to murder our kids though. Lucca Baby. I dont know if its love or the quarantine talking, but I like the cut of your olives. | ||
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Also glad to see you still play exactly as my brain remembers you Vivax. Fast and loose. Like I was at 17 apparently. | ||
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On April 05 2020 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 04:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On April 05 2020 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am in search for my wife. If you married this super handsome Luca guy just tell me and i will give you immunity for day 1. I am happy to murder our kids though. Lucca Baby. I dont know if its love or the quarantine talking, but I like the cut of your olives. Holy Italy is it you my love? :D Of course my Dear. You filled me with a kid then made me fall in love with you because of the farm. Its not stockholm, its the real deal. | ||
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Now, who my kid. (please be Chez) | ||
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On April 05 2020 04:25 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + You mean, because I agreed with raynpelikoneet? Or what?On April 05 2020 04:17 Vivax wrote: On April 05 2020 04:13 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Agreed, it feels a bit strange to have time to make a post but not have time to interact. And with a bit of an excuse.Shockeyy feels weird. That said... I've been doing okay with the whole coronavirus thing. We have the necessary supplies here, the main worry is for the health of those who are sick. And for myself personally, the loneliness and depression caused by staying inside so much is a bit of a pain to deal with but it's much worse for others so that's not so bad. I dub thee mr. nice guy. There's a good cure for that, try being a shrink for people or generally going a lot out of your way to help them, few years max and you will have no choice but to become more selfish. I would say its cause you said isolation was worse for others so it wasnt that bad | ||
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On April 05 2020 06:09 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 04:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Side note. Really like the detail you are putting into this GlowingBear. Now, who my kid. (please be Chez) Hey dad, Sorry, I've been away working out. I told grandpa and grandma about this. Grandpa told me to tell you that I need more protein and said to make use of the olive oil and cook me a steak . PFFFFFFFFF you better be paying me child. You may be an aspiring actor, but aspiring doesnt put food on the table or money in the bank. Fuck you also know business is terrible, with a quarantine and all. | ||
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On April 05 2020 13:39 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Why does that make me more likely mafia? I think all players, regardless of alignment, are more sensitive to people's opinions of them.On April 05 2020 13:29 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 05 2020 13:24 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 12:22 Jockmcplop wrote: Care to explain why?On April 05 2020 10:22 Trfel wrote: So I think the most suspicious person so far is raynpelikoneet. Implies that I am mafia one post, implies that I am town later + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On April 05 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is that saying you dont belong to the family? On April 05 2020 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why did raynpelikoneet's view change? Even if he's just joking around, if he's town, I expect him to have some perception of my alignment; whatever it is, it can't really fit into both of these statements.Maybe he fell asleep again? It's also boring to tak with townies only so maybe we wait for the bloody cobbler to arrive. INITIATE DISLIKE PILE. @Vivax, you too? It looks like you are being very sensitive to rayn's opinion of your alignment, and that oversensitivity has caused you to read something NAI (rayn's early prodding) as being suspicious. To others, does Jockmcplop's wording here seem strange? It seems to me like he's actually giving town reasoning to me while calling it suspicious. Honestly with how little has been posted, mixed with you not being up for lynch as of yet, you come off as way too defensive. Husband Rayn has done a few things that are off this is true. But you feel "off" as well. | ||
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Trfel / hap are where my eyes are focused atm | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:23 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 14:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I see something "off" but as of right now not alignment indicative. I just need to see more to swing either way. Trfel / hap are where my eyes are focused atm What do you think of Shockeyy's entrance? His tone seems weird to me. I don't know what that means for shockeyy though tbh. havent played with him in ages tbh. my memory from the ol days aint what it used to be. I want more from him atm but thats about it. | ||
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Bloodyc0bbler Leaning town Shockeyy Jockmcplop Null Chezinu Rayn Rels Lean scum Vivax Scum Trfel Hapa | ||
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Interesting question though ;p | ||
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On April 05 2020 17:35 Jockmcplop wrote: I am confused. On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads? Feels like you are just coexisting. Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory. That is basically the easiest thing hes posted that I went "wtf" on. Also, he didnt answer a question I posted a few pages ago and has been "active' while not actively pushing much. Outside of basically Trfe and rayn, Vivax has no real reads/leanings on peoples alignment. Or at least ones hes posted. Meanwhile he called someone out for almost identical behaviour | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 15:15 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 05 2020 15:07 Trfel wrote: On phone and in bed, so not going to quote you Jockmcplop, hope that's okay. I don't care about Vivax townreading me because I don't care too much about townreads in general (especially at this stage in the game) and I thought I knew why he was townreading me (since he later explained why, it turns out I was only partially correct, ah well). I don't really know how to respond to the rest of your post so let me know if I missed something. But it seems that a key point is my "case's" first point on raynpelikoneet. It's not that he has an implied read that is suspicious, it's that the implied/joke read changes. Townies usually approach mafia from two perspectives: treat everyone as town until there is reason to suspect otherwise, or treat everyone as suspicious until they show otherwise. Raynpelikoneet's posts don't fit in either mindset. That said, if I'm being honest, it's not a strong point at all and we all know this. I'm saying it's the most suspicious thing at that point in the game. Why'd I bring it up then, so people like you have something to talk about! I'd say it worked perfectly hmm... i quite like this logic even if I don't agree. This is the post that made me change my mind. There are many many ways to attack this post in case Jock wants to do that, especially since i don't do any of what Trfel says here. Furthermore even if i did, it's no way of comparing that narrative to my early posting because i posted a joke and a bait to you. No reads lol. TBH the post jock quoted here (especially the bolded part) is a reason i have a scum read on trfel atm. | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: BC i don't really think there is much chance of Vivax being mafia. Its why I have him as a scum lean. Play I dislike / view as bad (not saying it is the wrong way to play just that i dont like it) makes me lower you down until you do something that stands out. I am merely waiting for it. He has been more active since my original read, but he still needs to give real content to the thread. | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:29 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 18:09 Chezinu wrote: On April 05 2020 17:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Dear child of mine, this is you dad speaking! Change your clothes to something more appropriate right now! You are currently a disgust to the family. What do you find appropriate dad? Why do I disgust you? He cares not for attempted sororicide, only for choice of clothes. The kids are pricks. Trying to mooch off our hard work while giving nothing back. We won't be able to work forever. They need to be able to provide for their aging parents. | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:53 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 18:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On April 05 2020 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: On April 05 2020 15:15 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 05 2020 15:07 Trfel wrote: On phone and in bed, so not going to quote you Jockmcplop, hope that's okay. I don't care about Vivax townreading me because I don't care too much about townreads in general (especially at this stage in the game) and I thought I knew why he was townreading me (since he later explained why, it turns out I was only partially correct, ah well). I don't really know how to respond to the rest of your post so let me know if I missed something. But it seems that a key point is my "case's" first point on raynpelikoneet. It's not that he has an implied read that is suspicious, it's that the implied/joke read changes. Townies usually approach mafia from two perspectives: treat everyone as town until there is reason to suspect otherwise, or treat everyone as suspicious until they show otherwise. Raynpelikoneet's posts don't fit in either mindset. That said, if I'm being honest, it's not a strong point at all and we all know this. I'm saying it's the most suspicious thing at that point in the game. Why'd I bring it up then, so people like you have something to talk about! I'd say it worked perfectly hmm... i quite like this logic even if I don't agree. This is the post that made me change my mind. There are many many ways to attack this post in case Jock wants to do that, especially since i don't do any of what Trfel says here. Furthermore even if i did, it's no way of comparing that narrative to my early posting because i posted a joke and a bait to you. No reads lol. TBH the post jock quoted here (especially the bolded part) is a reason i have a scum read on trfel atm. Why does the bolded part make Trfel mafia? What does it add to the thread? How is it helping us progress towards catching someone who is scum? What point does explaining how the game should be played, in relation to a player whos playstyle is a known quantity, to justify a hard stance read this early in the game? Like, I havent played seriously for years, but what he posted is shit mafia have done for ages to try and blend in. Talking about how one should or shouldn't play makes you look like you are providing useful content when its instead just fluff. If you take into consideration how hard he also was defending himself / reacting to general suspicion so early into the game gives me the read I have. | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:56 Vivax wrote: BC in this case seems to just take positions beforehand and then attach whatever reasoning he can muster to justify them, posthum. Also scummy af. Nah, i take my positions and don't fully bother explaining my reasons until I believe I need/have to because it lets me get reactions to better filter my reads. Also, care to post any reads? I mean there is more than enough content for you to have preliminary reads on most of us at this point. | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 19:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote: What point does explaining how the game should be played, in relation to a player whos playstyle is a known quantity, to justify a hard stance read this early in the game? Why does this apply to Trfel and not to me, since i kind of did the same thing with Hapa? You legitimately pulled out posts from other threads as why you have a meta read (or thats how I took it anyway) IE you brought out personal experience as to have the read you do. By just saying "this is how people should play" and then them not doing that and saying they are scum is very different from "this is how x plays as town, this is how they play as scum and I see them acting more like their scum play" | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:11 Vivax wrote: How so. First thing he did was post a list. Then afterwards came any explanation for those reads. Also it bugs me massively what he writes about me. Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 18:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On April 05 2020 17:35 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 05 2020 15:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Lean scum Vivax I am confused. On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads? Feels like you are just coexisting. Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory. That is basically the easiest thing hes posted that I went "wtf" on. Also, he didnt answer a question I posted a few pages ago and has been "active' while not actively pushing much. Outside of basically Trfe and rayn, Vivax has no real reads/leanings on peoples alignment. Or at least ones hes posted. Meanwhile he called someone out for almost identical behaviour I mean sure, he doesn't understand how I read Trfel. Which is just that in the last game, he was posting 'analysis' on tons of people without seeming to have an actual opinion. While also seeming awkward and appeasing. That can be forgiven because I kept it short. But saying I have no reads or leans or claiming that not answering his question when it's obvious at what I'm looking at which answers it, is just false. I scumlean shockey, rayn, Jock. I townread Trfel and made all of those clear. But I have to admit chances are this is just bad town play. Depends really on how much he is willing to backtrack and admit it was just factually wrong. Me saying you had no reads isn't fully false (until now) because you never directly stated things. Yes you hinted, implied, heavily leaned things. However all those things give a player a way out. I don't want people being able to slither away without solid justification (myself included for when reads change). Thanks for finally answering my question from pages ago though. | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: why did you originally vote for hapa? Straight out RNG'd people who basically hadn't done anything yet. My vote has stayed there because all 3 of his posts since the game started provide literally nothing substance. He also vanished quite quickly. I want to see more for him for sure, especially given the fact the thread is far larger now. | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:28 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 19:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On April 05 2020 19:11 Vivax wrote: On April 05 2020 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well that's not true tbh. How so. First thing he did was post a list. Then afterwards came any explanation for those reads. Also it bugs me massively what he writes about me. On April 05 2020 18:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On April 05 2020 17:35 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 05 2020 15:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Lean scum Vivax I am confused. On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads? Feels like you are just coexisting. Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory. That is basically the easiest thing hes posted that I went "wtf" on. Also, he didnt answer a question I posted a few pages ago and has been "active' while not actively pushing much. Outside of basically Trfe and rayn, Vivax has no real reads/leanings on peoples alignment. Or at least ones hes posted. Meanwhile he called someone out for almost identical behaviour I mean sure, he doesn't understand how I read Trfel. Which is just that in the last game, he was posting 'analysis' on tons of people without seeming to have an actual opinion. While also seeming awkward and appeasing. That can be forgiven because I kept it short. But saying I have no reads or leans or claiming that not answering his question when it's obvious at what I'm looking at which answers it, is just false. I scumlean shockey, rayn, Jock. I townread Trfel and made all of those clear. But I have to admit chances are this is just bad town play. Depends really on how much he is willing to backtrack and admit it was just factually wrong. Me saying you had no reads isn't fully false (until now) because you never directly stated things. Yes you hinted, implied, heavily leaned things. However all those things give a player a way out. I don't want people being able to slither away without solid justification (myself included for when reads change). Thanks for finally answering my question from pages ago though. Slither away from what? I'll slither away from any read if I stumble upon something that gives me a good reason to. Why would mafia slither more than others? Rayn also slithered away from that early 'scumslip' by saying it was intended but didn't seem to bother you. But I think I get it, you are still used to more committal type of games. I think you misunderstand the problem though, mafia doesn't try to be flexible because townies are inflexible. Mafia tries to post like they are flexible because they are inflexible in approaching the game like a townie does. Why I say slither I mean it in a way that you don't have to explain yourself. Reads change all the time but by forcing people to state an opinion either way they have to give a reason why it changes. You are right I like more committal type of games. I find them easier to win as town. | ||
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What happened in your brain that could possibly lead your mind into doing the shit you just did. | ||
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ATM id drop him down to Rels / Chez territory of null read. Here I will update my lists for you Town Bloodyc0bbler Lean Town Rayn Vivax Null Rels Shockeyy Chezinu Lean scum Jock trfel Scum Hapa There is a world (with how you are currently being active) where I could see my read on you being wrong. So please keep up the posting =) | ||
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As of who is likely the last mafia? I would put the person here Hap//Chezinu/Shockeyy Because apparently if I don't post fully thought reasons im sketchy as fuck. Hap didn't give two shits about the vote either way. Sure he has come back and given a reason why he didnt care, however that was after the reveal. Given mindset prior to the lynch was getting to be downright unhelpful / apathetic. I mean outright refusal. Also, since the reveal not only does he come in with a brag post but more importantly On April 07 2020 02:03 Hapahauli wrote: Y'all are fucking idiots. Except you Vivax. I love you. Trefel, you 'aight too. I'm tempted to lynch Rayn for fun before BC mafia. Not really the mentality of town here. Given that in this post he states he believes Rayn is town and I am mafia. Killing me makes the most logical sense if you believe I am mafia. Not setting up purposeful town deaths. Shockeyy honestly since his return to the thread is, well to summarize in one word, bad. His general lack of activity mixed with the essential "i am here guys" posts then vanishing makes him look bad. The idea to try and move to a policy lynch that late into the game day is also extremely scummy. Chezinu. I am merely going to summarize it with this. As entertaining (as they are very entertaining) as his videos are. He specifically said he wanted to kill his sister this game. Look where his vote was planted at the beginning of the game. I will straight out say this is likely a tin foil because jock flipped his sister. But given how theme oriented Chez gets, the play to off jock would make perfect sense. SO updated list. Town Bloodyc0bbler Vivax Rayn Leaning Town Trfel Leaning Scum Shockeyy Chez Scum Hapa | ||
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On April 07 2020 06:33 Trfel wrote: BloodyC0bbler, I'm really confused as to why that makes Hapahauli mafia. If Hapahauli is mafia and doing a double-bus with Jockmcplop, why would he so openly say he didn't care who was lynched instead of continuing to push Jockmcplop? That seems like a really stupid play to me, basically anyone would avoid doing that as mafia. It's one thing if it merely seemed like he didn't care, but openly saying it has no mafia motivation/doesn't fit a mafia mindset. Same with Hapahauli saying he is tempted to lynch a townread before a scumread. He's obviously not actually going to do that, so why does him saying that make him mafia? Because if you look near end of day. People were on the Kill hap / Kill jock. Id say in the game only 1-2 people considered both possible to be scum. If you are double busing and given the game state, the survivor will almost always be seen as "town" for at least a few days of play. Look at how hes playing now. Why do you go full on asshole unhelpful, to brag, to suddenly huge spur of activity with "reads" to how you have the game figured out. Hap may be rusty, but he has played back in the day. Mafia full on busing people was a staple. Dumb play or not, shit like that happens. In terms of him saying he wont do it, possibly, but then why say it? It makes 0 sense to ever say it as town, only makes sense as mafia. Stupid or not, people make mistakes. Hell I will admit I probably am tunneled on Hap. But his entire play screams the same bullshit that Artanis pulled last year. Slow ride out in thread, gets called out (by me) and suddenly he appears in thread and spends a ton of it screaming "BC is scum, BC is scum" making tons of analysis posts misconstruing my play, etc.. Fully admit I could be tunneling, however I cant wrap my head around how hes behaving and thus hes on my lynch list. Could I be wrong, sure. I don't think I am though. | ||
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On April 07 2020 06:48 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2020 06:33 Trfel wrote: BloodyC0bbler, I'm really confused as to why that makes Hapahauli mafia. If Hapahauli is mafia and doing a double-bus with Jockmcplop, why would he so openly say he didn't care who was lynched instead of continuing to push Jockmcplop? That seems like a really stupid play to me, basically anyone would avoid doing that as mafia. It's one thing if it merely seemed like he didn't care, but openly saying it has no mafia motivation/doesn't fit a mafia mindset. Same with Hapahauli saying he is tempted to lynch a townread before a scumread. He's obviously not actually going to do that, so why does him saying that make him mafia? BC is just trying to bullshit his way into a case. Just be aware that he is an experienced enough player to tell you what you want to hear. That is why he dodged suspicion on Day 1 from most of the playerbase. Going to just say this to the bolded post. You have played a lot of games. A bunch with me. Every game I have played after i was viewed as "experienced', I have been viewed as scum day 1. There is always 1 person, if not multiple, who view me negatively. You can say I dodged suspicion. I didn't. You called me out, Vivax pushed me at points, etc... I may not have been a lynch target for day 1 but you quite honestly just lied right there. | ||
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On April 07 2020 07:08 Hapahauli wrote: BC, off topic (and out of my steamroller persona), but have we actually played a game before? I don't remember any. at least 1. Maybe more than that? | ||
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Is it same to state that we both have Shockeyy as possible red? Is it also safe to say we both currently list Vivax and Trfel as town reads? I know you have Rayn listed as scum over Chez. Any particular reason you think chez is safe from general suspicion at this moment in time? | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:13 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2020 09:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also Hap. Remove the fact we both think eachother are red. Is it same to state that we both have Shockeyy as possible red? Is it also safe to say we both currently list Vivax and Trfel as town reads? I know you have Rayn listed as scum over Chez. Any particular reason you think chez is safe from general suspicion at this moment in time? Shockey is certainly a plausible red. Vivax and Trfel are hard town reads, and they have been since Day 1. Rayn is a stronger town read than Chez. My "reads" post is not necessarily in order. Rather, it categorizes players I would not lynch, vs. players I would consider lynching. Fact is though, I'm not considering lynching anyone other than you tomorrow. Not saying you have to consider it tomorrow. I am more operating from the. "hey if we are both town tunneling the fuck out of eachother, lets see what we can do to make it easier to solve after the fact" Cause straight up. I die I flip green, likely hood is town then lynches you. If you get lynched over me and flip green then I am deff lynched the day after. Pretty sure mathematically the Mafia wins at that point. | ||
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Not saying he hasn't had migraines but I also remember people faking moving / random other life stuff as scum to avoid posting in game. Chez is honestly a mixture of 2 things. Last few games ive played with him, as town, hes at least helpful in his flavour posting. You can clearly see what he wants. So far this game flavour wise, the only thing he has wanted to do was kill Andrezza. To drop a vote (never change said vote) and manage to make that specific person die is pretty lucky no? I may have bias because his steak cooking method made me die inside. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:27 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2020 09:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On April 07 2020 09:13 Hapahauli wrote: On April 07 2020 09:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also Hap. Remove the fact we both think eachother are red. Is it same to state that we both have Shockeyy as possible red? Is it also safe to say we both currently list Vivax and Trfel as town reads? I know you have Rayn listed as scum over Chez. Any particular reason you think chez is safe from general suspicion at this moment in time? Shockey is certainly a plausible red. Vivax and Trfel are hard town reads, and they have been since Day 1. Rayn is a stronger town read than Chez. My "reads" post is not necessarily in order. Rather, it categorizes players I would not lynch, vs. players I would consider lynching. Fact is though, I'm not considering lynching anyone other than you tomorrow. Not saying you have to consider it tomorrow. I am more operating from the. "hey if we are both town tunneling the fuck out of eachother, lets see what we can do to make it easier to solve after the fact" Cause straight up. I die I flip green, likely hood is town then lynches you. If you get lynched over me and flip green then I am deff lynched the day after. Pretty sure mathematically the Mafia wins at that point. MOM!!! What is up with the pool!??!? Why is it green? Why does it have a barbed wired fence around it? You were defiling my kitchen again. Have to punish you somehow. | ||
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Currently can't see Vivax, Rayn, or Trfel as scum. That could easily make me just bad but the play of all 3 overall this game screams town. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:41 Hapahauli wrote: 1)In some insano world, you lynch me, then "town-BC" is captain of the ship heading into LYLO. You have one lynch. Who is more likely to flip mafia; Chez or Shockey? 2)Please link me games re: Chez meta that you are referencing. 3)How do you interpret this sequence by Jock: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 21:15 Jockmcplop wrote: So far my town reads are vivax and bloody and I also wouldn't lynch rayn, or probably chez. Vivax I already explained, he just has that spark when he's trying to solve, and you can see it here. This is a meta read though so its always a chance that this is the game where scum Vivax changes his meta. He's probably town though. Bloody keeps saying things that I'm thinking and although that's fakeable so early in the game, I find it far more likely that he sees the game similarly to me because he's town. I wouldn't lynch rayn here because he *seems* townie, but historically I can't read rayn for shit so I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt really. I'll filter him in a minute and see if anything jumps out. I like the long post alot. Chez I wouldn't lynch also because I can't read him. He's very entertaining though so best keep him alive. Everyone else can die until we find scum, probably in the following order, scummiest first: haphauli - Not really much to say other than I agree with bloody and rayn but he needs to come and be town or he gets lynched. Rels Nothing. Shockeyy Need to see more from shockeyy but he seems a bit too laid back if you know what i mean. Almost like he can't be bothered. Said he wants to have more interactions with other people so I want to see what happens if he does. Trfel I have explained. He responded okay to pressure but I still think his case on rayn was poor and he pulled out the 'trying to get people talking' line that mafia loves. I'm trying to avoid tunnelling on him though because I've done that before when he was town. So yeah my two biggest scumreads have barely posted. I guess that shows where I am in this game at the moment. Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 05 2020 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe i am just bad but i don't really understand you right now because you seem to be saying Trfel is not mafia but your vote is still on him? I'm not saying that. That one or two sentences he posted made me think town, but because of his tone and the way interacting with him felt to me he's a scumlean. Its not that hard to understand tbh and I said the same thing a few posts up. My vote was only still on trfel because i hadn't moved it yet. ##unvote ##vote: shockeyy as for your 1) At the moment I would say shockeyy. I will go dig up a game of chez being helpful some point in a few hours. Might take me a bit to find a good example. 3) TBH those posts are the biggest reason I said he could be mafia/bad. In no world does it make sense to say my top scumread is x then not vote for them. His list clearly said lynch in order of Hapa, Rels, Shockeyy, Trfel. Given that shockeyy didnt say anything to move himself up that list / mixed with the fact he included someone who hadn't posted anything at all as scummier than 2 players is well, a tell imo. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:41 Hapahauli wrote: 1)In some insano world, you lynch me, then "town-BC" is captain of the ship heading into LYLO. You have one lynch. Who is more likely to flip mafia; Chez or Shockey? 2)Please link me games re: Chez meta that you are referencing. 3)How do you interpret this sequence by Jock: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 21:15 Jockmcplop wrote: So far my town reads are vivax and bloody and I also wouldn't lynch rayn, or probably chez. Vivax I already explained, he just has that spark when he's trying to solve, and you can see it here. This is a meta read though so its always a chance that this is the game where scum Vivax changes his meta. He's probably town though. Bloody keeps saying things that I'm thinking and although that's fakeable so early in the game, I find it far more likely that he sees the game similarly to me because he's town. I wouldn't lynch rayn here because he *seems* townie, but historically I can't read rayn for shit so I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt really. I'll filter him in a minute and see if anything jumps out. I like the long post alot. Chez I wouldn't lynch also because I can't read him. He's very entertaining though so best keep him alive. Everyone else can die until we find scum, probably in the following order, scummiest first: haphauli - Not really much to say other than I agree with bloody and rayn but he needs to come and be town or he gets lynched. Rels Nothing. Shockeyy Need to see more from shockeyy but he seems a bit too laid back if you know what i mean. Almost like he can't be bothered. Said he wants to have more interactions with other people so I want to see what happens if he does. Trfel I have explained. He responded okay to pressure but I still think his case on rayn was poor and he pulled out the 'trying to get people talking' line that mafia loves. I'm trying to avoid tunnelling on him though because I've done that before when he was town. So yeah my two biggest scumreads have barely posted. I guess that shows where I am in this game at the moment. Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 05 2020 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe i am just bad but i don't really understand you right now because you seem to be saying Trfel is not mafia but your vote is still on him? I'm not saying that. That one or two sentences he posted made me think town, but because of his tone and the way interacting with him felt to me he's a scumlean. Its not that hard to understand tbh and I said the same thing a few posts up. My vote was only still on trfel because i hadn't moved it yet. ##unvote ##vote: shockeyy As you are looking for things you can extrapolate. 1, at the time of this post you were still in the lead for votes (I think, ill admit I could be wrong here) and as such he didnt want to hammer vote his team mate. This would mean however that he was bussed by his teammate fairly early in the game. 2. Shockeyy could be simple lynchbait, or that he was attempting to set him up to look that way so that people won't off his mafia buddy. 3. Trfel was someone he suspected but never went full attack dog on as to keep a mafia buddy alive / didnt want to stand out because Vivax was defending him. 4. all 4 of his reads were utter trash and all people within it are innocent and the real mafia is somewhere between Me, Vivax, Rayn, Chez. One could argue priority on me and Vivax as we are the two he said were fully town in his eyes. those are the 4 major points id conclude. Issue being without fully knowing his mindset you have no idea which option is the correct one. | ||
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On April 07 2020 10:54 Trfel wrote: @BloodyC0bbler: Why did you townread ShoCkeyy early Day 1? I know you already answered it here: Show nested quote + But to me, that doesn't make any sense. Given that you said that you didn't like his entrance: On April 06 2020 05:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The how is purely I didnt find his entrance as jarring mixed with people i had scum reads focusing him. Show nested quote + and your scumreads (Vivax, Hapahauli, and me) weren't focusing him at all. I looked at player filters to confirm this. I asked ShoCkeyy a few questions, but said my read on him was "exactly null." Vivax had ShoCkeyy had top scum for about 20 minutes, and quickly jumped away to focus on Jockmcplop. Hapahauli barely mentioned ShoCkeyy and didn't suggest he was mafia in the slightest.On April 05 2020 04:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote: hmm, im having some intuitions that say "watch the trfel person, or that shockeyy" the entrance they made hasn't been good enough. So how did you arrive at this read? Because to me it doesn't add up. Mixture of + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2020 05:35 ShoCkeyy wrote: I always feel weird to everyone with my openers and turn out to be a town or a blue... Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 04:00 Vivax wrote: On April 05 2020 03:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: I’m finishing up some chores then I’ll have some free time to post. My first question to all of you is, how are you all managing during this global pandemic? Everyone has the supplies needed? I may have to leave my incubator later for some “fresh” air, food, and cannabis. I'm trying to raise awareness for the bullshittery being pushed on the back of this super hyped pandemic. Sometimes I go out, grab used towels from trash cans, grind them finely and snort them to make a point. Anything game related? I mean it's the beginning of the game, I think everything is currently related. Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 04:13 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Agreed, it feels a bit strange to have time to make a post but not have time to interact. And with a bit of an excuse.Shockeyy feels weird. That said... I've been doing okay with the whole coronavirus thing. We have the necessary supplies here, the main worry is for the health of those who are sick. And for myself personally, the loneliness and depression caused by staying inside so much is a bit of a pain to deal with but it's much worse for others so that's not so bad. I couldn't interact since I had pre determined chores, however, I wanted to let the thread know that I'm aware the game started. I don't think it's a weird opening, I'm just being truthful. I would think that's a high regarded value of a townie. + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2020 13:45 ShoCkeyy wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 10:25 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 10:12 ShoCkeyy wrote: Fair enough. The reason I asked was because if you confirmed before, it would show that you were present, so there would have been less need to post in the thread showing that.On April 05 2020 09:31 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yeah, when GlowingBear sent out confirmation PMs, did you respond?On April 05 2020 08:35 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 05:35 ShoCkeyy wrote: Have you finished your chores yet?On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shockeyy feels weird. I always feel weird to everyone with my openers and turn out to be a town or a blue... On April 05 2020 04:00 Vivax wrote: On April 05 2020 03:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: I’m finishing up some chores then I’ll have some free time to post. My first question to all of you is, how are you all managing during this global pandemic? Everyone has the supplies needed? I may have to leave my incubator later for some “fresh” air, food, and cannabis. I'm trying to raise awareness for the bullshittery being pushed on the back of this super hyped pandemic. Sometimes I go out, grab used towels from trash cans, grind them finely and snort them to make a point. Anything game related? I mean it's the beginning of the game, I think everything is currently related. On April 05 2020 04:13 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Agreed, it feels a bit strange to have time to make a post but not have time to interact. And with a bit of an excuse.Shockeyy feels weird. That said... I've been doing okay with the whole coronavirus thing. We have the necessary supplies here, the main worry is for the health of those who are sick. And for myself personally, the loneliness and depression caused by staying inside so much is a bit of a pain to deal with but it's much worse for others so that's not so bad. I couldn't interact since I had pre determined chores, however, I wanted to let the thread know that I'm aware the game started. I don't think it's a weird opening, I'm just being truthful. I would think that's a high regarded value of a townie. And out of curiosity, did you confirm? I finished quite a good amount of them. I just have to vacuum. Are you asking me if I confirmed my role in the game? Not when he originally sent it, I responded after the game started, then posted in the thread. I had just woken up maybe 30 mins prior? That said, I guess I was kinda under the impression that you just played how you want and didn't really care too much what other people thought of you. Is that an incorrect assessment? It's not, but I also don't want mafia to win, so I try at least. + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2020 14:37 ShoCkeyy wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2020 13:55 Jockmcplop wrote: Wow does everyone see something off with rayn? I don't see it. On April 05 2020 13:39 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 13:29 Jockmcplop wrote: Why does that make me more likely mafia? I think all players, regardless of alignment, are more sensitive to people's opinions of them.On April 05 2020 13:24 Trfel wrote: On April 05 2020 12:22 Jockmcplop wrote: Care to explain why?On April 05 2020 10:22 Trfel wrote: So I think the most suspicious person so far is raynpelikoneet. Implies that I am mafia one post, implies that I am town later + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On April 05 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is that saying you dont belong to the family? On April 05 2020 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why did raynpelikoneet's view change? Even if he's just joking around, if he's town, I expect him to have some perception of my alignment; whatever it is, it can't really fit into both of these statements.Maybe he fell asleep again? It's also boring to tak with townies only so maybe we wait for the bloody cobbler to arrive. INITIATE DISLIKE PILE. @Vivax, you too? It looks like you are being very sensitive to rayn's opinion of your alignment, and that oversensitivity has caused you to read something NAI (rayn's early prodding) as being suspicious. Overdefensiveness and coming into the game immediately being worried about people's read on you is +mafia for sure. I don't think all players play like that at all. A big example of this is the way you assume I think you are mafia when before this post I had not said anything of the sort, just that I disliked your previous post (I mostly disliked the logic of it until this response you just made). So the two assumptions you had made were: 1: I think you are mafia 2: The fact that you think that I think you are mafia, and Vivax's town read on you, are the most important things to you in the thread (ie you didn't respond to or quote anything else) Both of these assumptions show a mindset that you are coming into the game with, and that mindset is something that I have often seen with scum players. Trfel from his last game seems new and curious. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Now toss in the fact he was receiving pressure for multiple players, two of which I thought at the time were far worse looking means I will move my general read from say Null to leaning town. | ||
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On April 08 2020 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: i think i am gonna fuck off for the rest of shit. i made up my mind. i think trfel is mafia. got it or got it not. ggnore. Where is Tryhard Rayn =( I miss him so much. | ||
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On April 08 2020 15:28 Chezinu wrote: Hey mom, Are we going to get the pool fixed? Nah, just adding more green to it in the next day or so. Unless you know of some red to put in it instead. | ||
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On April 09 2020 04:56 Hapahauli wrote: Thinking out loud... If for whatever reason we mislynch today, we are in LYLO with 4 players (3 town v. 1 mafia) heading into Day 3. Normally, the optimal play would be to no-lynch to get the town down to 2 town v. 1 mafia for better lynching odds. Unfortunately that is not possible due to the ruleset since town cannot no lynch. HOWEVER, the ruleset has another quirk: people who do not vote get auto-modkilled. Therefore, It is actually better for a townie to volunteer to not vote and get modkilled, since it would put the town in a better position in the event of a BC town flip. Thoughts? Yeah, no, same exact reaction to this post I did to Jock. | ||
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On April 09 2020 05:01 Hapahauli wrote: Also worth noting that today is the only day we can make this play. It is too risky to do it at a potential LYLO, since mafia can "volunteer" to modkill himself but last minute hammer. You shouldnt do the play ever, period, over. regardless of my alignment this is not something you do. I get you are trying to "double lynch" to make it easier for tomorrow. The issue is you are aiming to do it by rule exploiting to get modkills. You never fucking exploit modkills to win games period. Maybe this is the former host in me, but if you pulled this shit when I played a ton it wouldnt just merit a ban on the banlist it would be way more severe. The entire idea is completely disrespectful to glowingbear so just straight out fuck off with modkill shit like this. | ||
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On April 09 2020 05:28 Hapahauli wrote: Well you likely have an alterior motive to dismiss it out of hand. But from a "town BC" perspective, there are 3 players that could be mafia in this game: Shockey, myself, and Chez. It is simply impossible to lynch all three unless we employ a modkill strategy. So from town BC perspective, why it is not a hypothetically bad idea for me to modkill myself? Dude given how this entire game day has gone I could make a point for literally every player in the game to be scum. The general level of straight out apathy that has been caused it to be borderline impossible to fully figure out. Its not my fault you helped (myself, and a few others included) create a clusterfuck situation no one feels the need / want to play in. Regardless when you get this close to MYLO this is always the issue. Its part of the game. Trying to game the system this way is just wrong. | ||
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On April 13 2020 02:05 Hapahauli wrote: GG yo. Apologies to BC. Valient effort Shockey. Vivax MVP. Its coo mate, i get mislynched all the time. Just try to still engage / read so if/when such an event happens you have a backup for it ready to go. | ||
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On April 14 2020 04:48 ShoCkeyy wrote: Show nested quote + On April 13 2020 15:44 Jockmcplop wrote: On April 13 2020 10:38 ShoCkeyy wrote: Sorry Jock, I almost won the game for us D: You played well I thought. I completely screwed up on day 1 but you're right you almost had it. Shitttt your day 1 play was good enough to never have 100% suspicion on me, so I really commend you for that, and thank you cause w.o that, I would of been a goner D2 haha. Nah. No matter what I do I will always be a lynch target. You were almost guaranteed to live til day 3 because of it lol | ||
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