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If this game is still going on/im alive literally a week from today, my activity will sharply decrease for a few days before spiking back up.
[M][N] Holy Guardians - Chapter 2
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/in If this game is still going on/im alive literally a week from today, my activity will sharply decrease for a few days before spiking back up. | ||
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On April 05 2020 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am in search for my wife. If you married this super handsome Luca guy just tell me and i will give you immunity for day 1. I am happy to murder our kids though. Lucca Baby. I dont know if its love or the quarantine talking, but I like the cut of your olives. | ||
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Also glad to see you still play exactly as my brain remembers you Vivax. Fast and loose. Like I was at 17 apparently. | ||
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Of course my Dear. You filled me with a kid then made me fall in love with you because of the farm. Its not stockholm, its the real deal. | ||
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Now, who my kid. (please be Chez) | ||
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On April 05 2020 04:25 Trfel wrote: You mean, because I agreed with raynpelikoneet? Or what? I would say its cause you said isolation was worse for others so it wasnt that bad  | ||
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On April 05 2020 06:09 Chezinu wrote: Hey dad, Sorry, I've been away working out. I told grandpa and grandma about this. Grandpa told me to tell you that I need more protein and said to make use of the olive oil and cook me a steak  .PFFFFFFFFF you better be paying me child. You may be an aspiring actor, but aspiring doesnt put food on the table or money in the bank. Fuck you also know business is terrible, with a quarantine and all. | ||
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On April 05 2020 13:39 Trfel wrote: Why does that make me more likely mafia? I think all players, regardless of alignment, are more sensitive to people's opinions of them. To others, does Jockmcplop's wording here seem strange? It seems to me like he's actually giving town reasoning to me while calling it suspicious. Honestly with how little has been posted, mixed with you not being up for lynch as of yet, you come off as way too defensive. Husband Rayn has done a few things that are off this is true. But you feel "off" as well. | ||
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Trfel / hap are where my eyes are focused atm | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:23 Jockmcplop wrote: What do you think of Shockeyy's entrance? His tone seems weird to me. I don't know what that means for shockeyy though tbh. havent played with him in ages tbh. my memory from the ol days aint what it used to be. I want more from him atm but thats about it. | ||
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Bloodyc0bbler Leaning town Shockeyy Jockmcplop Null Chezinu Rayn Rels Lean scum Vivax Scum Trfel Hapa | ||
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Interesting question though ;p | ||
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On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads? Feels like you are just coexisting. Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory. That is basically the easiest thing hes posted that I went "wtf" on. Also, he didnt answer a question I posted a few pages ago and has been "active' while not actively pushing much. Outside of basically Trfe and rayn, Vivax has no real reads/leanings on peoples alignment. Or at least ones hes posted. Meanwhile he called someone out for almost identical behaviour | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the post that made me change my mind. There are many many ways to attack this post in case Jock wants to do that, especially since i don't do any of what Trfel says here. Furthermore even if i did, it's no way of comparing that narrative to my early posting because i posted a joke and a bait to you. No reads lol. TBH the post jock quoted here (especially the bolded part) is a reason i have a scum read on trfel atm. | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: BC i don't really think there is much chance of Vivax being mafia. Its why I have him as a scum lean. Play I dislike / view as bad (not saying it is the wrong way to play just that i dont like it) makes me lower you down until you do something that stands out. I am merely waiting for it. He has been more active since my original read, but he still needs to give real content to the thread. | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:29 Jockmcplop wrote: He cares not for attempted sororicide, only for choice of clothes. The kids are pricks. Trying to mooch off our hard work while giving nothing back. We won't be able to work forever. They need to be able to provide for their aging parents. | ||
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What does it add to the thread? How is it helping us progress towards catching someone who is scum? What point does explaining how the game should be played, in relation to a player whos playstyle is a known quantity, to justify a hard stance read this early in the game? Like, I havent played seriously for years, but what he posted is shit mafia have done for ages to try and blend in. Talking about how one should or shouldn't play makes you look like you are providing useful content when its instead just fluff. If you take into consideration how hard he also was defending himself / reacting to general suspicion so early into the game gives me the read I have. | ||
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On April 05 2020 18:56 Vivax wrote: BC in this case seems to just take positions beforehand and then attach whatever reasoning he can muster to justify them, posthum. Also scummy af. Nah, i take my positions and don't fully bother explaining my reasons until I believe I need/have to because it lets me get reactions to better filter my reads. Also, care to post any reads? I mean there is more than enough content for you to have preliminary reads on most of us at this point. | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does this apply to Trfel and not to me, since i kind of did the same thing with Hapa? You legitimately pulled out posts from other threads as why you have a meta read (or thats how I took it anyway) IE you brought out personal experience as to have the read you do. By just saying "this is how people should play" and then them not doing that and saying they are scum is very different from "this is how x plays as town, this is how they play as scum and I see them acting more like their scum play" | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:11 Vivax wrote: How so. First thing he did was post a list. Then afterwards came any explanation for those reads. Also it bugs me massively what he writes about me. I mean sure, he doesn't understand how I read Trfel. Which is just that in the last game, he was posting 'analysis' on tons of people without seeming to have an actual opinion. While also seeming awkward and appeasing. That can be forgiven because I kept it short. But saying I have no reads or leans or claiming that not answering his question when it's obvious at what I'm looking at which answers it, is just false. I scumlean shockey, rayn, Jock. I townread Trfel and made all of those clear. But I have to admit chances are this is just bad town play. Depends really on how much he is willing to backtrack and admit it was just factually wrong. Me saying you had no reads isn't fully false (until now) because you never directly stated things. Yes you hinted, implied, heavily leaned things. However all those things give a player a way out. I don't want people being able to slither away without solid justification (myself included for when reads change). Thanks for finally answering my question from pages ago though. | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: why did you originally vote for hapa? Straight out RNG'd people who basically hadn't done anything yet. My vote has stayed there because all 3 of his posts since the game started provide literally nothing substance. He also vanished quite quickly. I want to see more for him for sure, especially given the fact the thread is far larger now. | ||
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On April 05 2020 19:28 Vivax wrote: Slither away from what? I'll slither away from any read if I stumble upon something that gives me a good reason to. Why would mafia slither more than others? Rayn also slithered away from that early 'scumslip' by saying it was intended but didn't seem to bother you. But I think I get it, you are still used to more committal type of games. I think you misunderstand the problem though, mafia doesn't try to be flexible because townies are inflexible. Mafia tries to post like they are flexible because they are inflexible in approaching the game like a townie does. Why I say slither I mean it in a way that you don't have to explain yourself. Reads change all the time but by forcing people to state an opinion either way they have to give a reason why it changes. You are right I like more committal type of games. I find them easier to win as town. | ||
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What happened in your brain that could possibly lead your mind into doing the shit you just did. | ||
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ATM id drop him down to Rels / Chez territory of null read. Here I will update my lists for you Town Bloodyc0bbler Lean Town Rayn Vivax Null Rels Shockeyy Chezinu Lean scum Jock trfel Scum Hapa There is a world (with how you are currently being active) where I could see my read on you being wrong. So please keep up the posting =) | ||
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As of who is likely the last mafia? I would put the person here Hap//Chezinu/Shockeyy Because apparently if I don't post fully thought reasons im sketchy as fuck. Hap didn't give two shits about the vote either way. Sure he has come back and given a reason why he didnt care, however that was after the reveal. Given mindset prior to the lynch was getting to be downright unhelpful / apathetic. I mean outright refusal. Also, since the reveal not only does he come in with a brag post but more importantly On April 07 2020 02:03 Hapahauli wrote: Y'all are fucking idiots. Except you Vivax. I love you. Trefel, you 'aight too. I'm tempted to lynch Rayn for fun before BC mafia. Not really the mentality of town here. Given that in this post he states he believes Rayn is town and I am mafia. Killing me makes the most logical sense if you believe I am mafia. Not setting up purposeful town deaths. Shockeyy honestly since his return to the thread is, well to summarize in one word, bad. His general lack of activity mixed with the essential "i am here guys" posts then vanishing makes him look bad. The idea to try and move to a policy lynch that late into the game day is also extremely scummy. Chezinu. I am merely going to summarize it with this. As entertaining (as they are very entertaining) as his videos are. He specifically said he wanted to kill his sister this game. Look where his vote was planted at the beginning of the game. I will straight out say this is likely a tin foil because jock flipped his sister. But given how theme oriented Chez gets, the play to off jock would make perfect sense. SO updated list. Town Bloodyc0bbler Vivax Rayn Leaning Town Trfel Leaning Scum Shockeyy Chez Scum Hapa | ||
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On April 07 2020 06:33 Trfel wrote: BloodyC0bbler, I'm really confused as to why that makes Hapahauli mafia. If Hapahauli is mafia and doing a double-bus with Jockmcplop, why would he so openly say he didn't care who was lynched instead of continuing to push Jockmcplop? That seems like a really stupid play to me, basically anyone would avoid doing that as mafia. It's one thing if it merely seemed like he didn't care, but openly saying it has no mafia motivation/doesn't fit a mafia mindset. Same with Hapahauli saying he is tempted to lynch a townread before a scumread. He's obviously not actually going to do that, so why does him saying that make him mafia? Because if you look near end of day. People were on the Kill hap / Kill jock. Id say in the game only 1-2 people considered both possible to be scum. If you are double busing and given the game state, the survivor will almost always be seen as "town" for at least a few days of play. Look at how hes playing now. Why do you go full on asshole unhelpful, to brag, to suddenly huge spur of activity with "reads" to how you have the game figured out. Hap may be rusty, but he has played back in the day. Mafia full on busing people was a staple. Dumb play or not, shit like that happens. In terms of him saying he wont do it, possibly, but then why say it? It makes 0 sense to ever say it as town, only makes sense as mafia. Stupid or not, people make mistakes. Hell I will admit I probably am tunneled on Hap. But his entire play screams the same bullshit that Artanis pulled last year. Slow ride out in thread, gets called out (by me) and suddenly he appears in thread and spends a ton of it screaming "BC is scum, BC is scum" making tons of analysis posts misconstruing my play, etc.. Fully admit I could be tunneling, however I cant wrap my head around how hes behaving and thus hes on my lynch list. Could I be wrong, sure. I don't think I am though. | ||
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On April 07 2020 06:48 Hapahauli wrote: BC is just trying to bullshit his way into a case. Just be aware that he is an experienced enough player to tell you what you want to hear. That is why he dodged suspicion on Day 1 from most of the playerbase. Going to just say this to the bolded post. You have played a lot of games. A bunch with me. Every game I have played after i was viewed as "experienced', I have been viewed as scum day 1. There is always 1 person, if not multiple, who view me negatively. You can say I dodged suspicion. I didn't. You called me out, Vivax pushed me at points, etc... I may not have been a lynch target for day 1 but you quite honestly just lied right there. | ||
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On April 07 2020 07:08 Hapahauli wrote: BC, off topic (and out of my steamroller persona), but have we actually played a game before? I don't remember any. at least 1. Maybe more than that? | ||
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On April 07 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote: What are you stuck on? your pressure clearly. | ||
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Is it same to state that we both have Shockeyy as possible red? Is it also safe to say we both currently list Vivax and Trfel as town reads? I know you have Rayn listed as scum over Chez. Any particular reason you think chez is safe from general suspicion at this moment in time? | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:13 Hapahauli wrote: Shockey is certainly a plausible red. Vivax and Trfel are hard town reads, and they have been since Day 1. Rayn is a stronger town read than Chez. My "reads" post is not necessarily in order. Rather, it categorizes players I would not lynch, vs. players I would consider lynching. Fact is though, I'm not considering lynching anyone other than you tomorrow. Not saying you have to consider it tomorrow. I am more operating from the. "hey if we are both town tunneling the fuck out of eachother, lets see what we can do to make it easier to solve after the fact" Cause straight up. I die I flip green, likely hood is town then lynches you. If you get lynched over me and flip green then I am deff lynched the day after. Pretty sure mathematically the Mafia wins at that point. | ||
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Not saying he hasn't had migraines but I also remember people faking moving / random other life stuff as scum to avoid posting in game. Chez is honestly a mixture of 2 things. Last few games ive played with him, as town, hes at least helpful in his flavour posting. You can clearly see what he wants. So far this game flavour wise, the only thing he has wanted to do was kill Andrezza. To drop a vote (never change said vote) and manage to make that specific person die is pretty lucky no? I may have bias because his steak cooking method made me die inside. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:27 Chezinu wrote: MOM!!! What is up with the pool!??!? Why is it green? Why does it have a barbed wired fence around it? You were defiling my kitchen again. Have to punish you somehow. | ||
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Currently can't see Vivax, Rayn, or Trfel as scum. That could easily make me just bad but the play of all 3 overall this game screams town. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:41 Hapahauli wrote: 1)In some insano world, you lynch me, then "town-BC" is captain of the ship heading into LYLO. You have one lynch. Who is more likely to flip mafia; Chez or Shockey? 2)Please link me games re: Chez meta that you are referencing. 3)How do you interpret this sequence by Jock: as for your 1) At the moment I would say shockeyy. I will go dig up a game of chez being helpful some point in a few hours. Might take me a bit to find a good example. 3) TBH those posts are the biggest reason I said he could be mafia/bad. In no world does it make sense to say my top scumread is x then not vote for them. His list clearly said lynch in order of Hapa, Rels, Shockeyy, Trfel. Given that shockeyy didnt say anything to move himself up that list / mixed with the fact he included someone who hadn't posted anything at all as scummier than 2 players is well, a tell imo. | ||
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On April 07 2020 09:41 Hapahauli wrote: 1)In some insano world, you lynch me, then "town-BC" is captain of the ship heading into LYLO. You have one lynch. Who is more likely to flip mafia; Chez or Shockey? 2)Please link me games re: Chez meta that you are referencing. 3)How do you interpret this sequence by Jock: As you are looking for things you can extrapolate. 1, at the time of this post you were still in the lead for votes (I think, ill admit I could be wrong here) and as such he didnt want to hammer vote his team mate. This would mean however that he was bussed by his teammate fairly early in the game. 2. Shockeyy could be simple lynchbait, or that he was attempting to set him up to look that way so that people won't off his mafia buddy. 3. Trfel was someone he suspected but never went full attack dog on as to keep a mafia buddy alive / didnt want to stand out because Vivax was defending him. 4. all 4 of his reads were utter trash and all people within it are innocent and the real mafia is somewhere between Me, Vivax, Rayn, Chez. One could argue priority on me and Vivax as we are the two he said were fully town in his eyes. those are the 4 major points id conclude. Issue being without fully knowing his mindset you have no idea which option is the correct one. | ||
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On April 07 2020 10:54 Trfel wrote: @BloodyC0bbler: Why did you townread ShoCkeyy early Day 1? I know you already answered it here:But to me, that doesn't make any sense. Given that you said that you didn't like his entrance: and your scumreads (Vivax, Hapahauli, and me) weren't focusing him at all. I looked at player filters to confirm this. I asked ShoCkeyy a few questions, but said my read on him was "exactly null." Vivax had ShoCkeyy had top scum for about 20 minutes, and quickly jumped away to focus on Jockmcplop. Hapahauli barely mentioned ShoCkeyy and didn't suggest he was mafia in the slightest. So how did you arrive at this read? Because to me it doesn't add up. Mixture of + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2020 05:35 ShoCkeyy wrote: I always feel weird to everyone with my openers and turn out to be a town or a blue... I mean it's the beginning of the game, I think everything is currently related. I couldn't interact since I had pre determined chores, however, I wanted to let the thread know that I'm aware the game started. I don't think it's a weird opening, I'm just being truthful. I would think that's a high regarded value of a townie. + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2020 13:45 ShoCkeyy wrote: It's not, but I also don't want mafia to win, so I try at least. + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2020 14:37 ShoCkeyy wrote: Trfel from his last game seems new and curious. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Now toss in the fact he was receiving pressure for multiple players, two of which I thought at the time were far worse looking means I will move my general read from say Null to leaning town. | ||
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On April 08 2020 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: i think i am gonna fuck off for the rest of shit. i made up my mind. i think trfel is mafia. got it or got it not. ggnore. Where is Tryhard Rayn =( I miss him so much. | ||
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On April 08 2020 15:28 Chezinu wrote: Hey mom, Are we going to get the pool fixed? Nah, just adding more green to it in the next day or so. Unless you know of some red to put in it instead. | ||
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On April 09 2020 04:56 Hapahauli wrote: Thinking out loud... If for whatever reason we mislynch today, we are in LYLO with 4 players (3 town v. 1 mafia) heading into Day 3. Normally, the optimal play would be to no-lynch to get the town down to 2 town v. 1 mafia for better lynching odds. Unfortunately that is not possible due to the ruleset since town cannot no lynch. HOWEVER, the ruleset has another quirk: people who do not vote get auto-modkilled. Therefore, It is actually better for a townie to volunteer to not vote and get modkilled, since it would put the town in a better position in the event of a BC town flip. Thoughts? Yeah, no, same exact reaction to this post I did to Jock. | ||
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On April 09 2020 05:01 Hapahauli wrote: Also worth noting that today is the only day we can make this play. It is too risky to do it at a potential LYLO, since mafia can "volunteer" to modkill himself but last minute hammer. You shouldnt do the play ever, period, over. regardless of my alignment this is not something you do. I get you are trying to "double lynch" to make it easier for tomorrow. The issue is you are aiming to do it by rule exploiting to get modkills. You never fucking exploit modkills to win games period. Maybe this is the former host in me, but if you pulled this shit when I played a ton it wouldnt just merit a ban on the banlist it would be way more severe. The entire idea is completely disrespectful to glowingbear so just straight out fuck off with modkill shit like this. | ||
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On April 09 2020 05:28 Hapahauli wrote: Well you likely have an alterior motive to dismiss it out of hand. But from a "town BC" perspective, there are 3 players that could be mafia in this game: Shockey, myself, and Chez. It is simply impossible to lynch all three unless we employ a modkill strategy. So from town BC perspective, why it is not a hypothetically bad idea for me to modkill myself? Dude given how this entire game day has gone I could make a point for literally every player in the game to be scum. The general level of straight out apathy that has been caused it to be borderline impossible to fully figure out. Its not my fault you helped (myself, and a few others included) create a clusterfuck situation no one feels the need / want to play in. Regardless when you get this close to MYLO this is always the issue. Its part of the game. Trying to game the system this way is just wrong. | ||
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On April 13 2020 02:05 Hapahauli wrote: GG yo. Apologies to BC. Valient effort Shockey. Vivax MVP. Its coo mate, i get mislynched all the time. Just try to still engage / read so if/when such an event happens you have a backup for it ready to go. | ||
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On April 14 2020 04:48 ShoCkeyy wrote: Shitttt your day 1 play was good enough to never have 100% suspicion on me, so I really commend you for that, and thank you cause w.o that, I would of been a goner D2 haha. Nah. No matter what I do I will always be a lynch target. You were almost guaranteed to live til day 3 because of it lol | ||
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