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Just a simple smurf  That likes you very much BTW <3 | ||
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On September 15 2019 05:11 boxerfred wrote: /in Grack, you missed this one | ||
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Wait No, you didn't. Ignore this. This is taking a while to fill :/ it's heartbreaking to see TL Mafia so unpopulated... | ||
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On September 21 2019 08:10 Vivax wrote: blame the observers. or hf. blaming hf has aleays worked for me. with great power comes responsibility :p hows lex Blaming hf usually is the right option Oh, Vivax, you think I'm Tina? The game didn't even start yet and you're already having bad reads?  | ||
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On September 23 2019 13:33 Alakaslam wrote: Vivax been godreading lately I took his read more direct than PM Like hiiiijole! I'd love to be tina, anyway, so that's okay for me. | ||
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On September 24 2019 02:35 Vivax wrote: could be disfo, but why smurf Cold Viv, you'll never find out On September 24 2019 03:24 ShoCkeyy wrote: uhh /confirm i guess, i sent in PM, but I always thought FreezingFoot was Blazinghand arch nemesis or alter ego ;d I have a lot of arch-enemies, I surely can't have that many smurfs lol | ||
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On September 23 2019 08:43 Grackaroni wrote: I know Branch.AUT/CopCake are interested in coaching. Let me know if anyone else is as well and I can find more coaches. Btw, Grack, could you please assure pre-game that you won't distribute these guys between town and scum just to pair the coaches 1 to 1? Because, seriously, if people bring this up during the game, it will be boring as hell | ||
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On September 24 2019 11:35 Grackaroni wrote: I definitely won't distribute alignments based on coaching. The alignments will be completely determined by RNG, which may end up without a newbie scum player, or maybe even an entire team of scum newbies! Cool! Thanks. On September 24 2019 12:54 Eywa- wrote: Hey guys, I'm town /lynch | ||
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Btw O HAI! I'm town! | ||
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On September 26 2019 04:22 boxerfred wrote: But are you Yes I am Are you? | ||
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On September 26 2019 04:30 Fecalfeast wrote: I think frezing foot is glowing bear that's my read for today see you tomorrow And I thought I was softing | ||
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On September 26 2019 04:34 Fecalfeast wrote: So you are gb nice why did you smurf I actually lost access to my account and access to the e-mail of that account. So I gave up. Recently I found a note in my house with the e-mail and password I used for this smurf in the past, so I decided to play again | ||
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There. I said it first. On September 26 2019 04:51 Branch.AUT wrote: Wait, is FF Fecalfeast or FreezinFoot? FreezingFoot is now GB | ||
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On September 26 2019 04:54 Tubesock wrote: Hi fam! Hi TS! Let's vote FF, shall we? ##Vote: FecalFeast | ||
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On September 26 2019 05:22 Vivax wrote: Very convincing. Did you come up with that line of your reasoning on your own? Of course not, I got help from the people in my QT On September 26 2019 05:36 Vivax wrote: GB coming back to play actually deserves some hype. Thank you bud, what a pleasant surprise. I was wondering if FF used mod powers to figure out who you were, but I didnt check your post history. No, u <3 HYPEHYPEHYPE He figured it out based on my opening, I guess. On September 26 2019 05:42 Tubesock wrote: But he revealed you to us! So far he’s the towniest town. NAI On September 26 2019 05:30 Eywa- wrote: So, I actually think FF is town this game. Why? | ||
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On September 26 2019 06:03 CopCake wrote: Boom GB, my mind just exploded with a memory. <3 On September 26 2019 06:05 Eywa- wrote: This question is pointless because I'm town, so you don't have to worry about the motivation behind that comment. Cool. Why, though? On September 26 2019 06:14 Eywa- wrote: Playing without reading your role pm is an example. Are you implying you didn't read your role pm yet? | ||
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boxerfred FF VIVAX Eywax- Got’em already! | ||
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On September 26 2019 07:32 CopCake wrote: Why tho? Sup GB, how have your games been since we were mafia together? I am a bit curious of your shennanigans and what not. Sup Cake! I don’t know, I haven’t been playing the game for more than 2 years, if you don’t count my attempt to play last year, where I stopped playing because I completely lost access to my account About the reads, gut feeling. Except for epóxi-, I simply dislike the possibility that he is playing wit joy reading his role PM | ||
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On September 26 2019 08:23 CopCake wrote: Want me tbh? I also feel evil vibes from vivax D: IKR!? I mean, what townie would be hyped to play with me again? That’s insane! | ||
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On September 26 2019 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote: Lol ok I'll ignore the read on me but why have 2 people said vivax is scummy when he has actually posted more than once? Vivax has a very easy meta to read and by the end of this day or the next he will be an obvious lock read. I also wonder if I have that pic of me in the bear mask from long ago Gut feeling, basically. I can’t really explain. On September 26 2019 10:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: So GlowingBear joined after me, are you coming for me? D: Cause this is also my first game in a long time. Actually, yes, and I’m actually living inside your house. You have to clean fill your fridge more often btw, there’s a ketchup here expired since 2016 and that’s all there is. | ||
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On September 26 2019 13:58 CopCake wrote: Lets talk GB, since you seem town. I have been playing once in a while, last two games were bad. Alright, what do you wanna talk about? On September 26 2019 19:36 Vivax wrote: Im leaning mafia on BF for now. But Im aware that when little of value has been posted by others, I might just be paying too much attention to those who actually post. On a reread, I found it strange that BF found it necessary to comment on nobody posting for six minutes, but mostly I found his reply to GB with the extra spaces forced. I dont see a townie reason for BF to be so distrustful within the first few posts. GB so far looks like hes having fun so he can go to town pile. Hes a pretty good scum player but he tends to go full emo as mafia and fooled me with it in the past iirc. FF feeling offended for the mod power thingy rubs me the wrong way too since I never suggested he actually did it. Mostly mentioned it because it was the reason I got to stare at his icon and see a pinocchio. I had the exact opposite reaction to boxerfred's opening. I don't think FF's answer to you was alignment indicative. Also, why are you townreading me and talking about me going full emo as scum? It seems that you're trying to justify a future shift of your read on me. On September 26 2019 21:44 Eywa- wrote: Also, the fact that he immediately is considering that I'm incorrectly voting instead of being mafia... Almost like he knows I'm town which he also has no reason to believe. This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing. On September 26 2019 22:08 Eywa- wrote: Agreed, unfortunately you are being lynched today. We should probably start discussing the day 2 lynch now. If Branch flips town, you should definitely be considering me as an option. I have some ideas for who his partner is, but I'd like to give everyone the opportunity to play. I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is? On September 26 2019 22:18 Branch.AUT wrote: I like what boxerfred has pasted so far. He seems to be interested in the game and looking for contributions. I have to disagree with his GB read though. Most of what GB posted so far seems to be chatting and everything outside the game. It does indeed seem ligh hearted, but well within the range of a good scum player as far as I am concerned. I'm not a good scum player. I am an okay scum player. To be fair, it's not really hard to detect me when I'm scum. I was lynched almost every game I played as scum. The point is: as scum, I usually act as a support. When I flip, people get everything wrong. Which is great . But rest assured that I'm not scum in this game.(And if I was, I wouldn't be telling you this) On September 26 2019 23:33 Eywa- wrote: It is amusing though that you interpret my shit posting as an attempt to flesh out a scum read. Branch is outed scum, I really don't have to make a case for it. Yes, you do, and this tunnel seems very fabricated. ##Vote: Eywa- | ||
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On September 27 2019 02:29 CopCake wrote: I wouldnt touch Ewya this early tho GB I can touch anyone I want, he was consenting, I can prove it. On September 27 2019 02:53 Eywa- wrote: It's not a huge distinction, but it is a significant one. Your post makes it seem like I was looking for arguments to justify why he was Mafia, but I'm not doing that at all. He is mafia, I'm telling you, if my track record is not enough to justify that, then I guess I would say... Sounds like you want to lose. If you're not forcing that read, I'm having a hard time to understand why you think he is mafia. Is it for meta? Please explain to me like I'm a 4 y.o. Btw, did you read you role pm? On September 27 2019 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote: I will say that branch after the eywa baseless accusation has given me feelings. Also I'm gonna be on a sort of vacation for the next 4 days lmao i probably shouldn't have signed up but I'll grab some time when i can. No real spammers here I'll be fine Wait for me, I'll be spamming in a pinch. On September 27 2019 03:39 CopCake wrote: Because I cant read him correctly and he was right about rayn last game. And if you poke him he will be like “whatever” because he doesnt care nor engage a convo. I would say that GB is town. FF seems town. Vivax smells mafia. Shockey smells a little bit as mafia, just a little bit. I am curious about one thing with you. And Ewya is null. Cool. Why is Vivax mafia? Why shockey smells like mafia? Ewayhijole- being right on rayn isn't proof he will be right in this game. Don't you think this is weak reasoning to give up on trying to read Ewaychupazi-? On September 27 2019 05:06 Vivax wrote: This is ridiculous? You vote him out of nowhere and complain that hes dismissing you because youre supposedly good at the game. Why should he think that if youre wrong and hes town? And if hes mafia why shouldnt he dismiss you? In abstraction, you have delivered a prime example of damned if I do, damned if I dont. If you dont acknowledge that this is plain BS with a backtrack and a formal apology to the god of logic Im voting you and never unvoting. THAT'S MORE LIKE MY TOWN BUDDY VIVAX (maybe) On September 27 2019 05:21 CopCake wrote: Let him act. We can get info from that. Just saying not the best lunch atm. And who would be better? On September 27 2019 05:47 Eywa- wrote: This is not a good question, you are voting me... You want me to throw a name out, but you should be thinking... What do I react if he says ______ If the answer is the same regardless, you might as well not ask the question. If you think I'm scum, it's also pointless. I can't be sure if you're scum or not. I will always try to gather as much information as I can to sustain or change my read. I want to understand your thought process. If I can't, you're probably fabricating reads. That's the point. Who is his partner and why? | ||
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On September 27 2019 06:20 Eywa- wrote: If you're not sure what you're looking for, you might as well use this: random.org/lists I think my question is pretty clear. | ||
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On September 27 2019 06:26 Eywa- wrote: I mean, I'm all for constructive discussion, but starting from a fundamental disagreement on what is alignment indicative and what is a rather tricky place to take off from. We can start a constructive discussion as soon as you answer my questions | ||
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But you did THINK it. You know you did. GlowingBear, the green bear of beers! | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Branch.AUT | ||
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On September 27 2019 06:54 CopCake wrote: I see Vivax as mafia, that is all you are going to get from me rn. And back to work. Detective GB, 🕵🏽♀️ since I think you are town, I hope we make a better team as townmates than mafiascummates. Count on me! But now I'm going to sleep because the game is already figured out by Eywa- and I recommend you to sheep him. | ||
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On September 27 2019 16:00 Fecalfeast wrote: Can you give me some specific posts or thoughts that make him scummy to you or is it just a lame tone gut read Yes. He is too focused on bashing on Eywa instead of actually scum hunt. If you check their interaction, Branch opted to just defend himself from Eywa, but not actually justifying his actions. He chose to discredit Eywa, and keeps on doing this. He only appeared again in the forums once I voted him. It seems his only concern is surviving. And re-reading Eywa, although I dislike how he is playing, I could see his tunnel coming from a town perspective. He could be town. | ||
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We need to consolidate, anyway. | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:08 Tubesock wrote: I think you’re wrong here. Eywa scummed him before he did anything, there’s no actions to defend. Eywa essentially did what rayn did when he was my mason partner (scumread hydra before he posted) and Eywa scumread rayn for it too. Branch also dropped a couple reads so wasn’t always defending himself. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am now. One thing is to dismiss what Eywa said, the other is to use his whole day to just say how bad Eywa. As town, shouldn't he be trying to understand Eywa and then having a conclusion about his alignment? He never said he is town or mafia! | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote: What do people think of CopCake? I’m 180 on their reads. Not sure how someone can town Boxer, and don’t like the Vivax, Shockeyy, Branch team. I don't think you need to think of teams now TS. Just vote the scummiest. Who's the scummiest? | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:25 Tubesock wrote: Sure town “should” try to understand attackers alignment but I don’t think that happens very often. Usually it’s straight to OMGUS. Exactly, but he is not actually OMGUSing much, isn't it? All I know is that he said "you're wrong and everyone who thinks you're right are wrong. I won't be here today xoxo" | ||
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On September 28 2019 02:29 Tubesock wrote: I’m not thinking of teams. I think that trio is more likely town. Eywa Of the wagons. I’d rather see boxer or copcake be lynched due POE. I'm comfortable in calling CopCake town for now, boxerfred is being boxerfred and his opening sounded townie to me (gut feelings) I won't lynch these guys today | ||
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On September 28 2019 03:40 CopCake wrote: I would say Shockey is the scummiest of them all. Only if Branch is mafia. | ||
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On September 28 2019 03:45 CopCake wrote: GB where are your reads now? Let’s do cute work as detectives. Currently you're my top town. I still have to think about the others, but I don't have anything really strong. I think Branch might be mafia. I agree with you about Shockey. Unsure about Tubesock. The rest, I don't really have a clue. | ||
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On September 28 2019 03:50 CopCake wrote: Not necessarily, mafia can jump at any wagon when there are two towns to be lunched, preferably they would pick the strong one. You mentioned something about agreeing or understanding Ewya perspective before, care to share what you think of Branch? I already talked about it, I can't filter it right now. But essentially, Branch wasn't really committed to anything other than dismissing Eywa and defending himself. The only moment he came back to the thread and started playing a bit more was when I voted him and a wagon was actually being formed on him. I can understand a townie actually believing there was a scum slip and getting annoyed that people wasn't seeing what he was seeing. I don't think his attitude contributed, but I understood him. | ||
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On September 28 2019 04:21 ShoCkeyy wrote: Well I've played with GB before and him and I used to get into heated debates about who was town, and he always ends up being town, this time I decided to just auto check him as town, and deal with him later And I always thought you were mafia | ||
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On September 28 2019 05:20 Holyflare wrote: FF seems pretty townie Thank you | ||
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On September 28 2019 05:28 Holyflare wrote: Don't expect me to read much. Can anyone summarise something? Basically: Eywa thought Branch scumsclipped and tunneled him Branch almost all his posts to dismiss this and discredit Branch. I pushed Eywa because I thought he was being nonsensical. He refused to objectively answer my questions because they were... not clever. I decided I would lynch him. Then I've re-read the game and understood where he was coming from. Flipped my read and voted Branch. Second wagon was formed on Eywa. Eywa was lynched. He flipped town. kthxbai | ||
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BEARCAKE TOWN BUDDIES <3 | ||
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Clearly He used this term: “slip” Also branch responding copcake was simply ok defending himself. Do you think eywa’s reasoning was right? | ||
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Do you see that light? Dim, but growing stronger And stronger It was dark, very dark But now I can see the light | ||
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On September 28 2019 10:18 Holyflare wrote: If you think this first post was anything other than a facetious exaggeration I don't know what to say. EITHER WAY, you spent a long, long time saying that Eywa had circular logic and all that baloney only to then say you could see how he would have circular logic after his flip????? Let me just requote your post: BUT YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT AND IT WAS ALL A LIE LOL! I first thought it was a newbie scum trying to bring a bad argument against another newbie. He was over the top and evasive when I started pressuring him Then I re read the game and I thought that branch’s reaction was scummy, and eywa’s posts started to make sense to me Why do you think it’s is scummy? Btw when I said “boxerfred being boxefred” o meant he is usually a lurker as far as I remember. | ||
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HF, how many times did we play together? 15? 20? You know how I play as town. You’re calling me scum because, in your opinion, there is no “logic” in my posts? LOL you alwaysd use this as a reason to town read me in the past. It seems to me that you came to the game for the sole reason to discredit me. I don’t think you’re playing well. And when I think this, you’re always Mafia. ##Vote: Holyflare | ||
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I don’t understand why y you believe you certainly were protected You’re playing bad because you couldn’t realise I’m town. If I were scum, why would I scumhunt in a game full of lurkers? Why would I reveal how I play as scum? Why would I bother re reading the thread and flipping my read? | ||
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On September 29 2019 06:34 Holyflare wrote: read the quote chain bahahahahaaha How that’s relevant? | ||
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On September 29 2019 07:06 Holyflare wrote: what exactly am I supposed to town read you on gb? your flip flop on eywa without actually knowing what he's saying? you voting branch and saying after eywa died that NOW you could see his (fabricated) points as being valid? that's opportunistic as fuck, you used a flipped eywa's points that you argued for an entire day were circular logic to re-confirm that you were going to call branch mafia again and you have essentially done absolutely nothing after voting branch d1 WHY WOULD I DO THAT AS MAFIA? | ||
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My phone ran out of battery yesterday. | ||
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On September 29 2019 06:30 Holyflare wrote: I actually only had to search "hf logic" by user glowingbear to find this gem. Definitely mafia :D ##vote glowingbear I guess I'm a good scum player, then | ||
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That's just me joking, I'm town in this game. I was just catching up. I'll be responding your posts in a while. | ||
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I didn't realise Eywa didn't really believe in his points. I know he wrote he was mocking cases, but I didn't take it literally. I mean, he was scumreading Branch for reasons outside the game? I didn't see a post where he said that. I scumread him because I kept pushing him and he kept being evasive. I thought he was tunneled and that his tunnel was fake. That's an easy option for mafia IMO. Selecting a player, nitpicking his posts and keep being tunneled. So I thought he was mafia. The thread wasn't moving on. There wasn't much to work with and he wasn't answering me. He just kept being sarcastic. I thought "Am I actually missing something?". Then I decided to re read the thread. What made me think Branch was mafia was the way he reacted to Eywa every time, and this read got stronger when he actually started posting only when I was pushing him too. It looked like he felt he was in danger and had to defend himself or he would get lynched. I said that I could see why Eywa could be town because it appeared to me that he truly believed Branch slipped, and his reactions of being overly defensive and discrediting Eywa's ability to play the game was a strong indicative. I could see a townie so certain of his reads that every questioning of his reasons would be stupid. | ||
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On September 30 2019 12:13 CopCake wrote: GB talk to me, I like cute. I'm here, will give you my reads in a second. | ||
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I didn't, I was surprised by the post you brought. I said I was good because I clearly can emulate my town meta very well. | ||
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I don't really have strong town reads other than you. This town is not really trying to figure out the game, so it's hard for me to be comfortable calling people town. To be fair, I have been reading holyflare and I think he is possibly town, and if he isn't, it will show up. Reasons why I think he is town: he's actively trying to solve the game, his reaction to posts seems genuine, and mostly, his post about quitting the game felt real. I don't think he would bother posting that as mafia. I think you are town for the same reason: You look interested in solving the game. In a game where town isn't really interesting in pursuing information, mafia usually just stands by. And I think this is exactly the case. I think Vivax may be mafia for meta reasons. I don't truly believe he is trying to solve the game, and his posts seem very robotic. Usually Vivax gets very paranoid. I don't know if his play changed. Branch Is my strongest scum read for the reasons I've just said, and as a newbie that said he was "very excited" for the game to start, it seems he is not really invested in it. It sounds he is afraid to post, as a newbie mafia would do. The others, I don't have a clue. I don't believe Shockeys posts, I don't understand why Tubesock is voting me, I don't have enought information from boxerfred now on day2. Am I missing someone? | ||
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So here's where I'm at: CopCake Holyflare Tubesock Shockey Vivax Branch | ||
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I'll check it now. | ||
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On September 30 2019 07:00 CopCake wrote: HF I trust you will read this. Hello, my name is Shockey. I have lied several times during the game. Let's start with part 1 I think someone is mafia but I want another person to start the train. + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2019 01:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: Can we vote Eywa? On September 27 2019 02:00 ShoCkeyy wrote: There it is, I’ll sheep GB this round. Eywa is all over the place in my eyes. Just trying to stick shit to the wall. Why do you need to Sheep GB if you think Eywa is mafia? If you have your read you stick to it until something better comes out. Why do you need to say that it is because of GB idea or something? If I am misreading please clarify. On September 27 2019 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote: You essentially ignored Branches question, I’m positive you couldn’t have missed it unless it was done on purpose and you actually have no reason and are trying to save your mafia partner?!? I explained several times that the reason I didn't want to vote Ewya is mostly because last game I was speechless with him reads, even if there was a good case against him he got the mafia right so I wanted to see more of that, it is like that rule of "never lynch a veteran", it happened also last game but suddenly in this game you can go against everyone. I also didn't read Branch as 100% mafia but didn't like his reaction on Ewya so between the two, I would rather see Branch dead. Can you blame me? I don't like disdain nor lack of effort. I would have loved to see Shockey lynched and that is why he was my first vote. On September 27 2019 02:31 Grackaroni wrote: Day One Vote Count Branch.AUT (1): Eywa Eywa (1): FreezingFoot FecalFeast (0): Not Voting (7): FecalFeast, Vivax, CopCake, Tubesock, ShoCkeyy, Branch.AUT, Boxerfred Branch.AUT is currently set to be lynched. Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Friday, Sep 27 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in He indeed waited for someone else to start the train. When he said "why don't we vote ewya" was at: 11:10 during the 26th He voted for Ewya at: 8:43 pm on the 27th GB VS CAKE why one is more scummy than the other for shockey? + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2019 11:56 ShoCkeyy wrote: Then there's also this: Lol... we haven't even got passed day one and Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eyes. I still think has a chance of being mafia. Soooo.... that's pretty quick to go from Null to Town. Just saying. He calls me mafia for saying that Ewya from no opinion needs to see more (null) to town. Then he says this: On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote: Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does. Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well. On September 28 2019 00:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: I personally think calling people out for mafia on the first day is very mafiaesque . A normal town person like myself, would rather see discussion, than just straight finger pointing. Eywa was quick to point fingers at branch, and instantly push for a lynch.I don't think anybody else is yelling, I just think this constant push for branch who hasn't done much to warrant it in the beginning isn't normal town behavior. If you want to approve of it, then you neither are working with the town. So let's get this straight. Calling someone mafia the very first day is mafia, right? According to him. And going from Null to Town is also very mafia, right? This is HIS logic, am I correct? Then why isn't GB Mafia? Why doesn't he call out GB for changing his read from mafia to town to Ewya? On September 26 2019 07:21 FreezingFoot wrote: The Great GB’S List of Early Reads (NOTE: VERY ACCURATE!!!1!) boxerfred FF VIVAX Eywax- Got’em already! On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote: Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch. ##Unvote ##Vote: Branch.AUT Flow of reads, the importance of meta and info never leaked until later. What do you guys think of meta reads? Do you use them? I know you do, things like "Glowingbear is a good scum" has been said, stuff like "HF can pull this as mafia too", so if you know that someone tends to do certain thing as mafia you share that info to the class and scum hunt from that, right? + Show Spoiler + On September 28 2019 23:27 ShoCkeyy wrote: Good night since it’s night phase. I think copcake or tube are mafia, change my mind. On September 29 2019 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote: Idk? It’s 50/50. You’re the scummiest so far in my reads however. Between you and Tube I am forever his biggest scum read, always. And says he reads GB as town. On September 29 2019 04:21 ShoCkeyy wrote: You seem upset I town read GB but not you, wonder why. Then he says this shit of Boxer On September 29 2019 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote: At least I’m posting? Lol... Boxer and Tube haven’t posted. And I’ve played on mafia team before with boxer and that’s his style as mafia. The no kill tonight was odd in general, problably afk, so I can assume that part of the mafia team is within the people that didn’t vote the first day. WHY THE FUCK AM I MORE MAFIA THAN BOXER? IF YOU KNOW BOXER META AS MAFIA? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!!!!!!!! WHY YOU NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE SO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT BOXER? WHY? On September 29 2019 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: The pool has also gotten smaller. The more people involved, the more conversations, it's also the weekend, assuming everyone is busy like myself. Currently packing for a work trip. But either way, I'm around and always checking, and trying to at least phone post which isn't the best to use to debate. I think you asked me earlier what my town reads were and so far, Vivax seems like a good town read. I would also say yourself HF is a good town read. GB is like 60/40 for me while CopCake is 50/50 still. Where the hell is boxer there if GB is 60/40? one of your biggest town reads that you would sheep? the person you said you have played before and tends to end up as town? Why this sudden change of heart? And finally this post that is super bad overall. When the rules say clearly: Mafia cannot no shoot. Link to that part of the rules: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/551051-newbie-student-mafia-xxx#2 MAFIA DID SEND A KILL. FOR GOD'S SAKE /end rant I think the strongest point on your case is his double standards. I believe he said I'm a good scum player? If so, why would he believe I'm town in this game? Why is he changing his reads now? Why he didn't react to my eywa read earlier? To be fair, this is only stronger if we get a Branch flip. If he flips mafia, an associative read fits this very well. Reading me as town permits him to vote the town wagon without putting himself in the line. | ||
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On September 30 2019 12:49 CopCake wrote: ... are you kidding me? JHDGASHKFGJHJGHJLKHFKAJHRGRHTEGGFGSAJLLLLÑD ? Did you read what I wrote before? | ||
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I think it's bad and I'm totally okay with a Shockey lynch. I'm just saying I'm way more confident with a Branch lynch, and that it would be more informative. | ||
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On September 30 2019 13:01 FreezingFoot wrote: Shockey, let me hear from you. Are you sure copcake is mafia? Also, what do you think of Branch? | ||
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I agree with you that Shockey's post is bad. I could lynch him, and I trust you as town, cake. I'd rather lynch Branch, though. I'm going to sleep now, I'll be back tomorrow and see how this is going. | ||
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Why do you think I'm town now, and why is Holyflare town? | ||
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On October 01 2019 01:22 Holyflare wrote: It just says they can't no kill. Sure it would rng or something if they didn't submit it. And it RNG'd in a shot AT YOU and YOU were saved? Are you kidding me? | ||
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On October 01 2019 01:29 Holyflare wrote: I didn't say it's what happened, nor did I say it's likely to happen. I'm saying you can't rule it out based on the wording of the text. I think if the possibility is that small, this should never be brought up and we should consider the mafia team is active. Am I wrong? | ||
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On October 01 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote: I don't think vivax is anything tbh. He needs to post more but the thread is too small to really say one way or the other. His content is just things that seem generally ok to say as observations and he's done the typical don't trust hf crap he usually does as town so maybe I do err on the side of town reading him. I think he is most likely mafia because he is not actively playing the game. He just drops stuff in thread and gets out. It doesn't look like he is trying to scumhunt as he usually did as town 2 years ago. He is voting boxerfred. | ||
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On October 01 2019 01:48 Holyflare wrote: This is pointless shit gb obviously my position is self resolving so talk about mafia instead? Why did you lie about me town reading vivax? I didn't lie, I asked you why he was town. In a sense that you are voting with him, so you don't scumread him, do you? | ||
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Am I Mafia? Why? @SHOCKEY Am I mafia? Why? | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:01 Holyflare wrote: Right, so a loaded question when you could easily just search for vivax in my filter. Which means you don't actually care about my alignment either. I care so much that I am bothering asking you this. If you don't think he is town, you should never vote with him. Am I wrong? | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:09 Tubesock wrote: Nope. Did you notice who I was voting for before you? What about what was going on in the thread when I voted you? No, I didn't. And I remember you voted me after Holyflare started pointing fingers at me. What changed to make you feel I'm town again? | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:14 Tubesock wrote: Then you should pressure him “how” he knows as that would be good information. But going on and on about if the mafia team is afk or not doesn’t seem to be going anywhere and isn’t something we can learn until postgame. Maybe I missed it, but I haven’t seen you pressure or ask him how he knows, so I don’t believe you think it’s that important. HF could be vet, could be hunting for reactions, could be blue hunting or just being grandiose and trolly. He's definitely not vet because if he was he would've claimed already. But we will now as the game progresses. And yes, I asked him when he said he was saved. I think that is enough, it will only be detrimental to town to keep talking about roles. And you're right, talking about afk will not help town. Let's move on. Is Shockey mafia? | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote: I still think it’s in Boxer, shockeyy, or Branch. Oh you already answered. Could you reason your reads? | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:26 Holyflare wrote: Absolutely if I think the other person is independently scummy. I can always be wrong on one of them and there are so many variables. This is such a pointless mechanical question that you obviously know the answer to. What ARE you doing gb? HF, I'm trying to gather information as much as possible to take the most accurate decision possible. I'll be asking anything that I think is relevant just to have a reaction from you and analyse you from that. I don't get why I should be asking that. So, why boxefred over shockey? Did I miss your post? | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:29 Tubesock wrote: Some OMGUS, and how he pretty much only has me as his scumread but hasn’t done anything to push me or figure out my alignment at all. He simply omgus’ Copcake defensively and nothing else. He has t progressed the game forward in any way. Branch is deliberately being uncooperative. I 100% agree with the bolded. | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:33 Holyflare wrote: This is the most stupid thing I think I've seen in the entire thread. Who the fuck doesn't claim vet as town as soon as they take a bullet? Wtf | ||
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On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote: Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either. It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad. We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments. Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9. Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer. FINE IT'S BOXERFRED | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote: I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey. OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:07 Holyflare wrote: Copcake literally hates your guts because you bussed her. HF Why would I bus Shockey, just to switch to boxerfred, so you can make that associative read? Why wouldn't I keep pushing a townie, if that was the case? With so many lurkers, why would I bus my teammate? SPECIALLY in a game of 2v6, if that's the case There's no logic. Do you want me to be scum or you want to fucking WIN THE GAME? | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:08 Holyflare wrote: This looks pretty fake GB. Why did you vote boxerfred if not for the mechanical play? Because I actually thought you were right about the game maths and I refuse to lose a game to lurker mafia as I always refused in my whole playtime. | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:12 Holyflare wrote: Because the only town read person in the game is pushing shockey and people are sheeping her and you've thrown out petty scum reads on vivax and tube and other people and done nothing with them. Your reason to join shockey was just sheeping cake at the last few hours instead of voting the other wagon boxerfred. Don't act like you've been bussing shockey all 48 hour cycle. You realise I did hammer shockey, right? If I didn't change my vote, he would have been killed. I said that I think shockey is shady and that his double standards felt weird, and I also think that he does not bring anything original and is open to lynch anyone. Why wouldn't I vote boxerfred right away if I was scum with Shockey? Wtf HF | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:12 Branch.AUT wrote: Im out of there for the night. Severely disappointed atm. The only positivite thing to take away from this, is that I learend that GB doesnt read shit and Holyflare likes to math based on assumptions. This actually sounds pretty townie LOL | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote: I could have sworn you just jumped on when it didn't mean anything but checking the votes you are correct, you did "hammer" shockey. But it's not a hammer if you don't stay on it so it doesn't even mean anything. I don't even know why we're talking about this. I already said I don't think you'd willingly extend the cycle unless you're mafia with shockeyy (and even then probably not) and you flipped out because of it. Because I'm positive Shockey is mafia and i'll be very annoyed if people make this associative read. Anyway, HF, I won't let paranoia get me. I think you're town. I think CopCake is town. We should work together. But you need to trust me, too, and I have no idea how can I convince you I'm town, since it's pretty obvious to me. | ||
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I'm not sure what to think of Tubesock, but I believe Shockey and Vivax are mafia and I'll be lynching these guys in this particular order. | ||
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On October 01 2019 03:36 Holyflare wrote: Telling people to not save the blue is probably not the best way to go about getting on my good side. And what if I dance half-naked in a bathtub full of rubber ducks? Would I get on your good side? | ||
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On October 01 2019 04:22 Vivax wrote: Tube has been inactive? Don't think so. I'd say BF was the only one who fell into that definition. You're doing it again, twisting my arguments into me going after inactives. First with Tube, now with...Tube. With a bit of social justice warring to give yourself the appearance that you're right. But it's me who has a picture of Lenin hidden in his bedroom, not you. I lol'd. Vivax, for some reason, I can't trust a thing you say. You seem very disconnected from the game. Who do you think is certainly town? If you could decide next day's lynch, who would that be? | ||
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On October 01 2019 05:03 Vivax wrote: I just gave you my scumreads. As for certainly town, no one. Now excuse me, I have a stock market crash to predict for bragging rights. This is pretty evasive. You're making a team. I want to know who's the scummiest. There's no one in this thread that you wouldn't lynch? You'd say I'm possibly mafia? | ||
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On October 01 2019 06:12 CopCake wrote: I have a very stupid theory based by night actions. I need just the answer about how many blues should we habe this game. You won't have this answer because it also depends on which roles mafia has. I would only consider 1 blue. And we shouldn't talk about this at night. Post it before deadline. | ||
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On October 01 2019 12:36 CopCake wrote: We still need GB here to explain his reason of change of votes. I've got paranoied, kinda understood what HF meant with the maths, and I already lost too many game to mafia lurkers. I refuse to keep lurkers alive for a long time. So I panicked and voted him. | ||
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On October 01 2019 13:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: And here are the two posts that kind show GB and CopCake as possible team mates? they both repeat the same stuff about Vivax, while FF randomly naming me mafia cause I seem like mafia lmao... Like I said, the only reason why I definitely think GB is mafia is to possibly kill Vivax or HF tonight, and start blaming me as mafia because we could of lynched me past round etc... CONFIRMED MAFIA | ||
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On October 02 2019 01:21 CopCake wrote: Yeah I understand the feeling, like how on earth would you change your vote :p if you knew Shockey was town? I would take all the blame for it. Sorry, I didn't understand your point | ||
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SHOCKEY is MAFIA It's simple. In the last day's votecount, Shockey was to be lynched (thanks to me), and boxerfred was the guy to be lynched. If Shockey was town, he would know that I switched to boxefred and had just 1 town mislynched, not 2. There is no reason for a mafia to do that, because it would mean another townie dead. As Shockey is the only person who could know he is town, he should instantly read me as town. But he came to the thread to say that I changed my vote to boxefred in order to just have him lynched in the next day, which clearly doesn't make sense. Unless Shockey is mafia and has another agenda other than trying to find out other people's alignment and lynching scum. Basically, he wants to survive and making it impossible to narrow the lynches to this mafia team. So he discredits me. And if you check his gameplay, it is scummy. He doesn't have strong scumreads, he basically is surviving. You can also check Copcake's case and filter dive him. That's it. You ONE HUNDRED PERCENT LYNCH SHOCKEY TOMORROW. And, in my opinion, you also lynch Vivax after. | ||
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On October 02 2019 01:59 CopCake wrote: I am the only person in this game who thinks that Shockey is mafia and I would take the blame for it. | ||
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I actually meant that I thought he was mafia but I paranoied. Anyway, moving on. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:16 CopCake wrote: Actually no, I clear no one. HF could be doing a masterpiece mafia move but it would be too insane. GB could be trying to save a mate (Shockey) last phase but this theory is extremely paranoid too. But if something I have learned here is that TL mafia rely more of killing “game solvers” people than making chess moves. Either way Shockey is definetly mafia and needs to be lynched. From the people alive that is not Shockey I do not trust Vivax. Branch sounds more natural. Tube is the same as BF. You don't think my argument against Shockey is iron clad? Anyway, no one should save HF tonight. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:17 Tubesock wrote: My hesitation on Shockeyy is why didn’t he vote Boxerfred to save himself? He was dying until GB swapped, but could have just voted Boxer and not been in much danger. I don’t think mafia would do that. Otherwise I disagree with everything he’s posted after D1. I didn't realize that, but I can never see him thinking I'm not town in this situation | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:27 Tubesock wrote: I can see not clearing you for it. Especially if he already thinks you’re mafia. I disagree with it, much like I disagree with everything he’s said for the last couple cycles. It should not clear me for everyone, but not him. It's impossible to believe a mafia wouldn't keep his vote to have two townies killed in one row. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote: Of course shockeyy can think you're mafia if he's town, you've lined him up for tomorrow already. Are you kidding me HF? If I kept my vote on him, 2 townies would've died. Mafia would keep his vote 100% of the times here. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:46 Holyflare wrote: Oh boy oh boy, it's the slip of the century. I'M SAYING UNDER HIS PERSPECTIVE FFS | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:55 Holyflare wrote: You keep claiming hammer credit for a lynch you didn't end up hammering. It will not fly. If he is town, from his perspective he saw hf give him another chance tomorrow, make a plan THAT YOU FOLLOWED to push the game into mylo by no lynching so we could get another cycle after instead of lylo and then he sees you going directly against the plan you voted in favour for to push his town lynch. Then you try and use that to scum read him LOL. My "hammer" has nothing to do with my argument against Shockey. All I'm saying is that I could have Shockey mislynched as mafia and I decided to lynch boxer. Why would I, as mafia, not have both of them lynched? He, as town, could never think I'm mafia in this case. | ||
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On October 02 2019 02:59 Branch.AUT wrote: Found your Breadcrumbs. Reads: Tubesock visited GB and no kill happened because GB is likeley to be save over me. I know this because I was also there N1 and I took GB to my jail. I am the Jailkeeper. I am posting this in case I get killed. With this information, Tubesock is 100%confirmed scum. Amazing play by HF, who is obviously town. If I die, or if I dont, Lynch Tubesock ALL THE FUCKING WAY. We have two blues, confirming this information. In this night two, I have jailed Holyflare to give him the opportunity to play off this claim tomorrow. GB town, HF town, Shockey town, Tubesock scum OMG HF YOU KNEW TS VISITED ME AND YOU STILL CALLED ME MAFIA OMFG | ||
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On October 02 2019 03:19 Holyflare wrote: Yes, obviously. Then there is no way you could believe in a cc by tubesock | ||
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On October 02 2019 03:20 Holyflare wrote: Why did you try and shoot me tonight gb? :D GOD I WISH | ||
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On October 02 2019 03:23 Holyflare wrote: What if I told you ts may NOT be mafia! But likely is as well as someone else. How did you know you were saved? | ||
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On October 02 2019 03:54 Holyflare wrote: How about you just come out and say it before you go back to your mafia chat and devise a plan ?How about you explain that you thought you were saved but knew you weren't roleblocked? That you knew someone visited me and that this someone probably saved me or tried to kill me, so it's impossible you were saved n1? Tell me, did you think Tubesock was Jailkeeper? | ||
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On October 02 2019 04:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: So Tube and GB are team together? like I called earlier? Bahahahah.... I'm starting to think the team is Tube/GB/Cop easy. YES SHOCKEY WE ARE MAFIA TOGETHER TUBESOCK VISITED ME N1 SO WE COULD HAVE A CUP OF TEA AND SHRIMP FLAVORED NOODLES AND LAUGH IN OUR COMFORTABLE MAFIA HOMES | ||
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On October 02 2019 04:28 Branch.AUT wrote: I considered Jailing copcake n2, but decided against it since literally all she did was tunnel you. Combined with HFs message, and reading tubesock who dug at cakes credibility every chance he got, made me decide on HF WHAAAAAAT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA | ||
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On October 02 2019 04:29 Holyflare wrote: Like fuck me there wasn't even a kill tonight so mafia literally tried to shoot me. Are you fucking retarded? HF, Branch just said he jailed copcake | ||
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On October 02 2019 04:32 FreezingFoot wrote: HF, Branch just said he jailed copcake Wait, no, he didn't said that, ignore me ROFL | ||
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On October 02 2019 04:44 Tubesock wrote: HF what’s the rest of your crumb? And confirm you’re actually tracker/watcher. And your role is...? | ||
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On October 02 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote: I ain't confirming NUFFIN GB. I laughed. Angry, but laughed. | ||
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On October 02 2019 05:56 Holyflare wrote: Just put your vote on him and scum hunt. Something that is increasingly absent from him just saying he's vt and leaving again. You know why I won't do that? Because if you aren't tracker then Tubesock isn't mafia. | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:04 Holyflare wrote: IF I AM NOT TRACKER WHY THE FUCK DO I LEAVE A BREADCRUMB THAT HAS BOTH YOUR NAMES IN IT AND THE JK CONFIRMS IT'S EVEN CORRECT FUCK ME. FUCKING HELL GB. Why can't you come clean in the first place? Why being this mysterious about your role? | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:06 Holyflare wrote: The only possible explanation I have for your complete fucking ignorance is that tubesock is a wandering vt, accidentally wandered to you at the same time as the jk protected you and you know he's not mafia so you're doing everything you can to look like you're weighing up some artificial bull shit. So, you post confusing information, do not come clean when asked, and get angry because we are trying to understand you? Come on. | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:10 Holyflare wrote: We kill tubesock. Me being saved and the fact we lynched bf means we have a free lynch today. You will see he is mafia or a wandering towny. If he is town GB is one million % mafia. I give up trying to reason with you, I'll just play the game and lynch mafia, then. | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:11 Holyflare wrote: I will never fully confirm anything. Deal with it. You either believe I'm tracker or you don't. Reactions tell me everything and yours is the worst. LOL my reaction is the worst So you knew all the way that someone visited me, didn't even think I could possibly be saved by jailkeeper, claim that you KNOW you were saved, and you think it's not fair to not trust you? Actually, you know what? ##vote: Holyflare | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:12 ShoCkeyy wrote: Why even say this for the past twenty pages and never post anything? It's shit like this that make people think you're mafia. I also find it crazy that CopCake AND GB are now both attacking HF why?... Again, the narrative seems so similar as if they're both in a mafia QT. Exactly, we are in a Mafia QT together with Tubesock, planning our next move. Next move: attack holyflare. | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:34 Holyflare wrote: I feel like I'm on another planet where all semblance of intelligence ceased to exist. Thank god you're here, enlightened sir Could you please, translate this code? + Show Spoiler + HFIDOM Waiting for your help | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote: Easy. Holyflare fucking irreversibly destroyed obvious mafia. You fucker. I laughed out loud. | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:42 Holyflare wrote: Do you feel bad that you're mafia? You still seem to be voting me but yet can't provide a single explanation as to how I'm mafia other than I should somehow know your alignment yesterday because one person visited you. I'm not mafia. I don't think your actions in the game corresponds to your night actions and role, and I don't understand why you claimed you were saved and why you couldn't just come clean to the thread. This only confuses town. And I'm not sure what to think. | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote: It doesn't matter what the fuck my actions in the thread stipulate towards my role either. That just reinforces how excellently I played it. You can quite literally flip tubesock and reveal my role. It's the easiest fucking self resolving thing this game and you're still incapable of following through with basic logic. That's what blows my mind and makes me think you're actually mafia still. I'm just confirming whether mafia can block their own nk. I'm not mafia. There was no night kill and someone visited me. This is the most basic logic that YOU couldn't follow through as tracker. You decided that MEH I was mafia. Anyway, I am less mad. Gonna be reasonable. [b]##Unvote ##Vote: Tubesock[b] | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:15 CopCake wrote: - pats pats - You are a good detective, GB 🕵️♂️ I’m from a intelligent planet, ain’t I, mommy?  | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:27 Holyflare wrote: GB is anything but confirmed town though. ... Please, end my pain | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:27 Holyflare wrote: GB is anything but confirmed town though. Let me get this straight. Tubesock, as mafia, roleblocked me, another mafia, who was caring a kp into you, in the hopes you could track me Is that what you’re arguing? | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:30 CopCake wrote: Get ice cream 🍦 At least I am getting fun talking to you. When I learned you were in the game I was like OMG I am going to kill him! But you are extremely enjoyable. I’m qtpie And you’re a qtcake | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:37 Holyflare wrote: what the actual fuck are you talking about How can I not be confirmed town if Tubesock is indeed Mafia? | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:37 Holyflare wrote: I seriously have to limit myself to 2% brain power interacting with every post of yours GB HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I’m actually loving this | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:39 Holyflare wrote: I don't know if tubesock is mafia, even if he is, yes, you could still be mafia. If he is not, yes, you could still be mafia. None of these scenarios confirm you as town like cop is making out. I am checking whether mafia can rb themselves so we'll see if it's even a possibility. And you’re checking if Mafia can roleblocked themselves because...? | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:47 Holyflare wrote: 3 people did not visit GB, 2 people visited GB. I am confirming whether mafia can RB their own NKs so we can see if it is a possibility. You are assuming he is a wanderer but it could be a play also. Nothing GB has been doing weighs up to anything a rational towny says. Now you’re starting to annoy me. | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:47 Holyflare wrote: 3 people did not visit GB, 2 people visited GB. I am confirming whether mafia can RB their own NKs so we can see if it is a possibility. You are assuming he is a wanderer but it could be a play also. Nothing GB has been doing weighs up to anything a rational towny says. A possibility of what? Intentionally roleblocking their own kp? Do you realise how stupid this is? | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:52 Holyflare wrote: IF IT'S STUPID THEN WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME MAFIA FOR IT LOL I AM NOT CALLING YOU MAFIA YOU DUM FIM I AM JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU SEE I’M TOWN | ||
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On October 02 2019 07:54 Holyflare wrote: THEN HUNT FOR MAFIA LOL I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE POST THIS ENTIRE CYCLE THAT SAYS "OH TS IS MAFIA WHO IS HIS PARTNER?" I STILL THINK IT’S SHOCKEY AND VIVAX, IVE BEEN SAYING IT FOREEEEEEEEVER | ||
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On October 02 2019 08:03 Holyflare wrote: You know, sometimes I have existential moments where I ask, "What does it all mean?" I question everything about humanity, how people can think the way they do, the root causes of events and tragedies and just generally ask myself, how can things transpire in the way they do? Why can people not look at things critically and resolve matters with civility? How can a collective group be presented with evidence that says one thing that has been reviewed multiple times by experts but then believe in something one person said one time? Then I come to Team Liquid Mafia and read posts like this and I sit here in my chair at midnight just nodding, "Ah, this is how." I always asked if someone could be such good contortionist to be able to put his head inside his ass, then I find out that there this British contortionist that can also use internet while doing it | ||
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On October 02 2019 08:10 Holyflare wrote: This is the funniest thing you have ever said :D Give me a town hug, then | ||
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On October 02 2019 08:11 Holyflare wrote: Mafia can rb themselves, I refuse :D | ||
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On October 02 2019 08:32 Grackaroni wrote: Mafia roleblocker may roleblock a teammate but may not target themselves. I will edit it into the OP If they can block the kp than this defeats the whole purpose of mafia not being able to not kill Anyway, I’ll not be discussing this anymore cause I’m locked in the tube, shockey and tube team | ||
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On October 02 2019 08:53 CopCake wrote: The idea of a mafia not killing and blocking themselves with no idea if there is a tracker... is insane. I also think that HF has been absurd, but it’s hard to believe he is mafia. But it’s straightforward, if tubesock flips town we Lynch HF | ||
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On October 02 2019 09:10 Holyflare wrote: I am 100% a tracker, never back down. That much is legit. Please tell me you’re not implying you didn’t track tubesock | ||
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On October 02 2019 09:14 Holyflare wrote: I'll be frank with you, I do think GB is extremely likely town, he's just annoying. I didn't think, or at least wasn't sure at all yesterday because I didn't know what happened or who visited whom for what reason. Thank you, Frank, I’ll be Stacey | ||
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On October 02 2019 09:36 Tubesock wrote: No way man. HF is town, I really doubt he could orchestrate that crumb as mafia. So, you’re saying you definitely visited me? | ||
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On October 02 2019 06:21 Branch.AUT wrote: GB - You doubt HF cause he doesnt want to claim. It's understandable in a game of mafia. The thing is, the only way HF is mafia here, is if shockeyy is too. Otherwise campaigning for boxer over shockeyy to extend the length of the game makes the game harder for mafia!HF. Why would he do this? If TS flips green, no harm done, we don't insta loose, and you can still pitchfork HF the following day. If he survives the night. So, I didn’t respond you this. I will always be paranoid when it comes to HF. But I’m trying not to be paranoid because I feel his reactions are genuine. I just don’t understand his course of actions and his breadcrumb is just a lot of letters with our initials altogether. When he doesn’t explain his breadcrumb, nor he claims, it feels shady. You should know that Holyflare once managed to convince the whole that the red check a flipped cop had on him was because he was a miller. Of course he was mafia. I was the cop. And I got lynched with two confirmed máfias alive. Yeah. Anyway why do you think shockey is town? | ||
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On October 02 2019 09:46 Tubesock wrote: I believe I’m unknowing wanderer or whatever it’s called. Hahahaha no way you can think that, Tube. If you’re VT and HF doesn’t claim right away you just vote him 100% | ||
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On October 02 2019 12:06 ShoCkeyy wrote: Why is it so quiet. . . I was busy making that gif | ||
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On October 02 2019 12:16 ShoCkeyy wrote: But yet, I'm town dawg. Why you so hard headed. To be fair I prefer to lynch Vivax before you, so there's that | ||
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On October 02 2019 12:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: So if you think TB and Vivax are mafia, who is your third? You ))) | ||
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On October 03 2019 01:33 ShoCkeyy wrote: Is it possible Branch, and HF are mafia together?!?!?! INCLUDING GB????? The only thing I didn't like about TB claim to VT (the wanderer) was no one was killed by mafia so would he still wander over to who ever the mafia visited that night (GB)? It's possible that we're all getting played by HF, Branch and GB Shockey, this is so bad that I'm starting to think that you could be town. Branch is confirmed town, he would never claim JK if he was mafia, because mafia KNOWS there is a protective role in the game. If Tubesock is town, I don't think he is helping himself. If I were him, I would never believe in a tracker claim while I'm VT. I would never consider I'm a wanderer. As town, I would 100% doubt HF's claim. | ||
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On October 03 2019 02:26 Branch.AUT wrote: You are correct, I did. Sorry I forgot about writing this. I consider shockeyy town because of his day 2 actions. Innspite of all pressure, he kept scum hunting. And when he was set to be lynched, even seconds before deadline, when he easily couldve voted boxer he kept his vote on tube who he consideted his top scum read. Instead of daving his own life, he kept voting his scumread, and that screams town to me. Tubesock also pointed that out, but I have to say that this would only draw attention to him in the next day. I would do the same as mafia in hopes that a stupid townie would change his vote. | ||
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On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote: I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk. Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each. With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum. Do you believe: 1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1? 2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2? I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK. | ||
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1) We lynch Tubesock and he flips red. Then we lynch you. 2) We lynch Tubesock and he flips green. We lynch holyflare. There's no other option | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote: I have a rather big qualm with the bolded. If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here. Because a vet would auto-claim Because a town roleblocker would've definitely claim since he caught the mafia guy carrying the kp Because there is a JK that protected me, I have been universally townread n1, and no one died | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:38 Holyflare wrote: Do you want to know why he's been acting like this when I have a super solid claim and blocked KP? It's because he knows the reality of my claim and is probably mafia. You're acting super anti-town right now | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:26 Vivax wrote: HF is your tracker claim a never backtrack claim or are you just fooling around pretending to be what you are not as usual? I honestly have no idea why anyone should claim without being on the chopping block unless they are cop with a red check or two. Vet must never claim, roleblocker could expect another role in the game leading to the result, although losing a rber isn't really that bad. I'll give it to you that you sound really convinced of yourself. I'll give Tube a read and then HF but hopefully something kills me irl before I have to read through that. Any vet should auto-claim after being shot for the sake of not wasting town's discussion on this guy's alignment. If town roleblocker doesn't roleblock the carrier of the KP, we would have a NK day1 It's obvious and I don't know why we are wasting more time on this. | ||
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On October 03 2019 03:46 Vivax wrote: AHEM. Now you're really starting to look a bit too sure of yourself. ? If you are shot at night you auto-claim the day after. I don't get your point. | ||
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On October 03 2019 04:00 Vivax wrote: The point is that vets don't know when they get shot. So how to claim after getting shot? OOOOOOOOH WTFFFFFF | ||
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And I'm lynching HF. Do whatever you want, this fakeclaim wasted half a cycle and I either take holyflare out of this game. He's either playing bad or is mafia. | ||
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On October 03 2019 05:11 Holyflare wrote: That is the most half hearted crap retort you could have done. Basically a seal LOL :D You're mafia or you're bad. I'd rather think you're mafia. | ||
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On October 03 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote: We are lynching GB. Read his filter from when I hard claimed last night (linked it last page) with the view he knows I'm fake claiming my target and it makes it really really fucking obvious he's mafia. No, town is not lynching me just because you want. | ||
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On October 03 2019 05:32 Holyflare wrote: His reaction to my reveal was basically a seal????????? "I'm not playing anymore" looooool I'm not playing anymore UNTIL you are lynched or I am out of the game. | ||
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On October 03 2019 05:35 Holyflare wrote: Any time you want to either: Rebut any of the accusations I've made towards you OR Explaining how the fuck I make up all that shit as NOT tracker that would be exceptionally good of you. I will wait (for eternity). Nobody hardclaims blue at night. You either hardclaim a role or not I was able to see that you actually didn't track Tubesock into me because of how you wanted to lynch me day2. It should be enough to know I was town and Tubesock tried to kill me, IF you had actually tracked him into me. You decided to conveniently say that you didn't track Tubesock after the obvious could happen: town go against you if he flipped green. Conveniently, you changed your targets. (This clears Tubesock btw, if you're actually mafia). It's funny that you suppose that I was roleblocked carrying a nightkill, but that actually could've happened to you. Your arguments against me are shit | ||
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On October 03 2019 05:47 Vivax wrote: Could you adjust your plan of action to a HF-first lynch ? Purely because I don't understand why I'm mafia if Tubesock is red when I have been advocating for his lynch prior to this day. I'm doing it right now | ||
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On October 03 2019 05:52 Holyflare wrote: Yet as mafia, for no reason, I claimed tracker going for a 1 for 1 trade with Tubesock (who is apparently cleared) AND you voted to lynch him!!!  It was straight-forward. You either tracked him and he was mafia killing me, so I vote him, or you lied, and his flip would say anyway. | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:23 Tubesock wrote: I don’t think GB is scum. It is completely rational and logical to be skeptical of HF’s claim. I mean he’s HF. Plus, 2 blue roles in a 9 player game seems pretty unbalanced. Not impossible, but I think unlikely. If HF were mafia, he 100% would make some breadcrumb that’s unquestionable like this. But would mafia!HF carry the kp N2? And why would mafiaHF prolong the game by voting Boxerfred? I don’t see mafia!HF doing that. So, I think this is town!HF. 1) Yes, especially after he claimed blue during night. 2) To gain towncred | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:56 Holyflare wrote: Yeah claim blue so I get saved. Good plan. Get town credit by prolonging the game 2 extra cycles. Good mafia plan. You're mafia, you can't be town in this game. | ||
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On October 03 2019 06:58 Tubesock wrote: He claims blue truthfully and falsely fairly often at night. It could be for towncred, but I think he had plenty already and I don’t think it’s worth not killing 2 people with. Unless Shockeyy is mafia. Which I am warm too. If I move from Vivax it’ll be to Shockeyy. Let's all lynch shockey, then? If Shockey flips red, I can finally get HF lynched | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:04 Tubesock wrote: Ok, but what do you think of Vivax? ##Unvote ##Vote: Shockeyy I think he's mafia | ||
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What do you think of tubesock? | ||
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What about Vivax? | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:24 CopCake wrote: But rn I am mad, sorry. Why? You’re currently getting your lynch | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:37 CopCake wrote: Vivax and you Or vivax and tube. Process of elimination. If Shockey flips town it clears HF and the whole “I gave town another day” Impossible for MafiaHF to do that when mafia has gotten two less kills. But my opinion doesnt matter. I’ll just sheep whatever you guys want. I don’t get why you’re upset, we are lynching your main scum read. You don want to lynch shocked anymore? | ||
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I’ve been OMGUSing HF for too long. I’ll just ignore his read on me. Would you sheep me? | ||
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He’s been bringing so many absurd scenarios to the game that I’m starting over see him as possibly town | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:46 Holyflare wrote: Of course you are Here’s the thing, HF: I won’t be OMGUSing you anymore. I’ll just assume you’re town and if you’re Mafia, well played. If you don’t trust me, vote me and have town voting me. I’ll be doing my stuff here. I’ll vote Vivax today if I can get Copcake with me | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: Really want to play this game? I at least know how to read duddeeee.... This was your first post: This was your next post when the game actually started: HF do you really believe any mafia would post something like this unless they are not caring for the game? | ||
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On October 03 2019 07:56 CopCake wrote: I wont vote Vivax Why not | ||
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Exactly. For some reason this makes me feel he is town. I don’t really know what to think. And if there’s only two mafia, I’m always considering Vivax between them. That’s why I want to vote Vivax today | ||
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On October 03 2019 08:12 CopCake wrote: I can easily write a telenovela with HF and GB relationship It’s a good one Why you won’t vote Vivax? | ||
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On October 03 2019 08:23 CopCake wrote: Why are you voting him? Which are the guys on your poe? Sorry I was driving. I’d lynch Vivax or Tubesock | ||
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Am I sure HF is town? No Do I think he could possibly be mafia with tube sock? Yes But I’m also thinking “am I WIFOMing? Am I OMGUSing” Because sincerely, I have ALWAYS caught holyflare when he is mafia. That’s because I call him mafia every game. | ||
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On October 03 2019 09:20 Holyflare wrote: Tubesock has literally been telling people to vote vivax? I know. I’m evaluating their gameplay alone. | ||
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On October 03 2019 09:29 CopCake wrote: I say we vote no lynch. I mean if GB is mafia then Jock can block him since the theory is that HIM was the one carrying the kill. That way there wont be a killing, GG. We definitely lynch today, there is no reason to keep people alive now Why not Vivax? | ||
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On October 03 2019 09:32 CopCake wrote: But mafia wont be able to kill two persons at the same time :D so HF could track maybe? Or would they block jock and kill HF and give jock another day to live? 🤔 They’re definitely going to kill branch and roleblock him. | ||
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On October 03 2019 09:58 Holyflare wrote: Quote this post for end game. Not lynching gb will completely destroy any chance we have of winning. If this is really the truth, I’m more than okay to be lynched and let town have its victory | ||
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On October 03 2019 09:53 Tubesock wrote: Why would mafia rb Branch? Won’t he just die and then rb HF. Well, yes, but they risk having their kp blocked | ||
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On October 03 2019 10:55 CopCake wrote: My two cents is that mafia is vivax and shockey Yeah there are worlds in which GB and HF could be mafia but 1.- Just by poe, GB/Vivax/Shockey and even Tube I dont understanf why GB would carry the night one kill when mafia know that there could be a tracker. If GB was mafia and is soooooooooo good like Vivax say... why would he allow himself to carry it when HF and Him have history? And they both get extremely paranoid? The only problem I have with GB are his wishy washy? Change of votes. Like I could understand the first two but this round... the “Hey cake vote vivax” it is like... why do you need me to vote? If HF is mafia is only if he is mafia with Shockey, which is why I want to lynch him also, that way we could have a 100% town HF for everybody. Because you’re the only one I trust is town | ||
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On October 03 2019 11:06 ShoCkeyy wrote: Ok, think about it this way, I'm not mafia. Now what are your reads? Also why does town want to give up a kill on a possible mafia? If there's two people that are mafia, we have a 29% chance of killing one of them now. If there's three mafia, we have 43% chance. If you Lynch me that's going to give a ton of odds over to mafia. I personally think there's a possibility of godfather, and role blocker. It's a NEWBIE game, why not teach both roles while at it. Also I'm going to follow up in like 30mins with a big post. Just need to write it out. Then I won't be back for a till late. I don’t mean to offend you, but nothing you say is relevant to the game and your reads are mostly based on WIFOM. So, we have Holyflare saying he didn’t track tubesock into me. Who are you going to vote? | ||
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On October 03 2019 11:10 Holyflare wrote: You're using hindsight. I don't think gb was really scum read by anyone but me at the time and I certainly don't think they thought I'd be tracker. Also, sorry you're feeling shitty. You've done well imo at giving reasons for why you think/thought shockey is mafia. I totally agree with the second part. Btw, it’s normal to be called things in this game. I personally went against holyflare and said a lot of shit, but I truly believe it’s really fun to play with him and that he isn one of the best in this website. | ||
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On October 03 2019 11:33 CopCake wrote: Then mafia has a cop for sure. Like If GB was mafia... why wouldnt he block you? Or his mate. AGJSHDJAGEAGGJ,E,K ARE TOU TRACKER? | ||
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I change votes every time as either alignment, so, yeah | ||
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I was joking because you posted those letters | ||
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On October 03 2019 12:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early? Why wouldn’t I simply kill two townies in a row? | ||
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On October 03 2019 12:47 Holyflare wrote: Because if shockey is town you have a ready made wagon in mylo that everyone is amicable to lynch. 6v2 4v2 n2 3v2 d3 Vs 4v2 d3 Although what you say makes sense, I think I would prefer to kill 2 townies every time just to have more vote power d3. Anyway, I should be voting shocked 100^, right? Especially if Vivax flips mafia. | ||
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On October 03 2019 12:49 Holyflare wrote: The hosts for giving you the wrong role pm. HAHAHAHAHAHA But seriously | ||
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On October 03 2019 12:55 Holyflare wrote: You have less vote power. Your teammate is more likely to be randomly lynched. There is no backup wagon after shockey for you to be sure who would be up next. But HF, this is simple I want to kill Vivax today. People think Vivax is mafia. If he is my only partner and he flips red, all we have to do is to have branch JKing me aggressively. If nobody dies, I was carrying the kp. It’s actually very easy to verify if we correctly lynch mafia today. | ||
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Who’s my partner if im Mafia and in case I’m not mafia, who is then? | ||
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On October 03 2019 13:02 Holyflare wrote: Don't insult my intelligence, we already know that plan doesn't make any sense. HAHAHAHAHA If there are two mafia, and I’m one of them, and my partner is lynched, I’m the only one who can carry a kp JK me, nobody dies = I’m mafia JK me, someone dies = I’m confirmed town. | ||
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Well, that makes it more difficult, but only if the topeblocker doesnt flip | ||
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On October 03 2019 13:07 Holyflare wrote: I have talked about this about 100 times. Can we do for one more time please? | ||
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On October 03 2019 13:11 Holyflare wrote: Not particularly, you're wasting my life. You try over and over again to gain credit for plays but every single time there is a mafia plan behind it. Nothing you've done eber has an innocent townie looking for possibilities vibe. You feel very much like you're manipulating people and the thread. I will not ever vote for someone you advocate to lynch today, especially when someone else in the scummy pile is voting with you. Feel free to convince these other people though. Wow you must be very annoyed. I’m sorry I caused you this Anyway, I’m voting Vivax. | ||
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On October 03 2019 16:39 CopCake wrote: Saaaaved. GB saved. Over me, you honestly believed your top scum read should be saved. In your breadcrumb. Why are you so sure he got saved? How did you know he got visited? Specifically him? Because mafia knew that GB got targeted at night by a protective role. You tracked him, and he got 0 visits. How the fuck did you know he got visited? And specifically used the word “saved” ? Here you claim that TS visited GB (ofc a lie) but here you also imply that TS is a doctor... or a blocker... or mafia... but you said “save”. ... I don’t know if it is the lack of sleep or something but it doesnt make sense to me, the moment you admited you didnt target Tubestock your tracker claim doesnt work yet you know someone visited GB by magic? No. Cake, that’s HF’s breadcrumb being analysed by Branch. He thought HF was saying “Tubesock Visited GB”. Since he jailed me and no death occurred, it is obvious, in this scenario, that TS tried to kill me. He would know I was saved because, well, he is the jailkeeper. There’s nothing wrong in branch’s claim except for how he read HF’s breadcrumb | ||
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Not to be confused with the watcher role, this one selects a target to know who visited his target. Tracker: knows who his target visited Watcher: knows whom his target got visited by | ||
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Vivax, I clearly scumread HF for OMGUSing and paranoia. I kept getting back from scumreading him because I decided to analyze things rationally. His claim was weird, and to be honest I think he is VT doing it. Branch, I was scumreading Vivax because as far as I remember of him playing as town, he never was so disconnected from the game. I also believe he doesn’t have hard stances in the game, and I will always vote like this because I don’t truly know anyone’s alignment. Btw, you’re right that you should investigate Tubesock. I will not fight my lynch, you guys already know who i think we should kill, and you either believe me and vote with me, or don’t and I have nothing else to do. | ||
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I never tried to get town cred, as holyflare said. Everytime I tried to prove I’m town, it was because i thought logically about my play. I townhunt as much as I scumhunt, because I believe town must play cohesively, and I had copcake and holy flare as my town circle. I mostly tried to convince HIM I’m town so we could work together, although I fell in a bit of OMGUS and WIFOM because his play makes no sense to me. | ||
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There are some policies in this game which is “Lynch all liars”, if he was mafia trying to confuse town I would never forgive myself to have let him pass | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:27 Branch.AUT wrote: I take issue with this. You say lynch all liars, but that means lynch hf (lied about tracking tubesock) and copcake(lied about voting me d1, pointless, needless lie, but still a lie). Who you have as your town circle. So what is it now, are they town? Or should they be lynched? Surely youre not advocating lynching town? Because I am using more than one tool to decide my vote and to make reads. And that’s why I change my votes so quickly. That’s why I kept calling HF Mafia then going back to thinking he is probably town. I am constantly reevaluating everyone as every post is posted. Those two seemed to me the most interested in solving the game. So that’s why I have them as town. This is more important than policies. I also believe long time TL Mafia players knows that when you try hard to confuse mafia, you end up confusing town, so it was a normal meta to try to be as clean as possible in the thread. | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:29 CopCake wrote: Detective GB do you unserstand what I am saying? How HF knows someone visited you if he is not a watcher but a tracker? ^^ He doesn’t, the only person who said someone visited me is branxh | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:31 Branch.AUT wrote: This read is based on memories from two years ago, when you last played here (as you claimed early in the game)? Mostly, and his approach to the game is scummy in my opinion because he is not clearly and active trying to solve the game, and that’s what I believe is the most common mafia trait | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:33 CopCake wrote: He did In the breadcrumb He said someone visited Gb :D That was just branch’s interpretation, right? | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:35 Branch.AUT wrote: GB youve gone around everybody active in the thread the last 24hours+, changing your reads, opionions and how you make them and arrive at your conclusion. All aimed at a person, trying to buddy them so you dont get lynched. And now its my turn. I appreciate the effort, but Im not buying it I never tried to buddy anyone, and what you’re saying is impossible. I can’t go after everyone while buddying everyone. Feel free to reach the conclusion you think is right, but I’m town in this game | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:35 CopCake wrote: And Hf followed and said it is true and claimed tracker Then said oh no i didnt follow TS Exactly, so he was just lying, following branch’s post | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:47 CopCake wrote: Someone understands what I am saying? How HF knows GB got visited if he is not a watcher and worse he didnt even targeted him? HF night 1 targeted me. I get what you’re saying, but it seems that HF himself didn’t mean that. Those letters were just some kind of code to reveal that he is the tracker | ||
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To be fair, extending the game doesn’t make him town at all, that’s not why he could be town | ||
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On October 03 2019 22:54 CopCake wrote: And how do we know he is the tracker? <_< >_> he didnt target TS. He could be lying you know. We don’t. He probably isn’t. But is he mafia or town doing that? | ||
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On October 03 2019 23:04 CopCake wrote: The reason you are getting lynched is because you got targeted by branch and the theory is that you are mafia that got blocked. Sorry, had to work Well, then unfortunately the jail keeper is wasting his own save lol | ||
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On October 04 2019 00:15 Branch.AUT wrote: To be fair, most of your credibility is owed to HF deciding youre town in the first place. ROFL not at all Her approach to the thread has been townie since the beginning of the game I hope, after get lynched, you rethink the weight you give to HF’s words | ||
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On October 04 2019 00:26 Holyflare wrote: This is so unbelievably bull shit lol. You've literally been in a game where I was cop and fake claimed a red check on you for the entire cycle and you got lynched and I got lynched the day after. The fact I ended it after a day with actual reads on people's reactions to it should tell you so much more than this surface level bull shit you're spouting just so you can conveniently scum read me again. I AM NOT SCUMREADING YOU | ||
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On October 04 2019 00:35 Holyflare wrote: You're sure doing a good job of throwing shit in my direction. I am being open to the thread. I said there are specific things that puts me at pause but I think you’re town. I’ve repeatedly said that. | ||
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On October 04 2019 00:36 Holyflare wrote: We should never lynch a target gb wants to lynch. You lynch gb or tube or shockey today. Gb will flip mafia and then you offensively jail one of them. Let me tell you, I’m town. I’ll flip green and branch will die. Stop being so tunnelled. | ||
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On October 04 2019 00:39 Holyflare wrote: And you think vivax is mafia with tube yet you're quite happy to nonchalantly vote with tube the entire day killing vivax while tube sits in the darkness doing nothing. I can easily get behind a Vivax Lynch, a tube Lynch, or a shockey Lynch, this last one being my least favourite. Although you say that I’ve been inconsistent, I have been specifically asking for these lynches the whole game | ||
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On October 04 2019 00:45 Holyflare wrote: For instance who have you called mafia this cycle? I'll make a list. Me Tube Vivax Shockey Four people that you're sure are mafia at every point. It's not even weighing up each person for their respective posts this game, it's just flitting between certainties to lynch who you can. Only the bottom 3. I’ve repeatedly declared I’ve been OMGUSing you. The fact that I chose Vivax is clearly after seeing reactions in the thread and kept reevaluating people. You’re also wrong here. | ||
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I’m changing my vote to TS. | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:08 Holyflare wrote: I am not voting anyone other than GB. Perhaps it is because you don't know him but you should go back and read a game where he calls me mafia. He will go through great lengths to ruin the entire game even if I'm basically mechanically confirmed town if he is town because he gets something in his head and will not ever drop it. This placid afk vote on vivax is definitely not town gb. Placid afk vote? I’ve been posting everything I think in this thread. I even voted tubesock now. You think he’s my partner? Vote him with me then. Whoever you say is my partner, I’ll vote. How’s that? | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:13 Holyflare wrote: Lol you'll do literally anything to try and manipulate. It's pathetic. How am I manipulating if I am giving you the power of decision? How can you be this tunneled????? | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:12 Vivax wrote: Alright I'm done fiddling around for today. GB could you explain why you turned around on your HF read and believed him so quickly, then voted tube? I’ve explained already. I’ve been mostly omgusing and wifoming. Every time I calm down I try to be reasonable and think outside of this. When I voted tubesock it was very straight forward: we either believe holyflare is tracker and tracked tubesock, so he definitely tried to kill me. So he is mafia. If he flips red, HF confirmed tracker. If he flips green, homyflare lied and could be mafia. | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:16 Holyflare wrote: I will never believe your fake as fuck following the plan on boxerfred into whining and wanting to lynch shockey. Never. You knew what the plan was and it was going to be going according to plan and you somehow were surprised it was going to plan and decided you wanted to deviate from it for absolutely no reason. Then get amazed when I flip green | ||
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Who’s my partner? | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:23 Holyflare wrote: Again with the pointless drivel questions. Likely tubesock. You know he's not getting lynched over you and you're distancing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA If you’re town, when I flip, please think of how you could have tried to access me. Because seriously, it’s been really bad the way you react to what I say. | ||
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Priceless | ||
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In case HF decides someone else to lynch, I’ll gladly vote with him. If not, GG. I’ll be back near deadline | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:30 Holyflare wrote: If you are town you need to rethink your entire approach to playing this game. I sure do, by the way. | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: HF tell FF to vote CopCake, he won't do it, he's definitely ignored me. Oh I think she’s town, I’m not voting her. I meant I would vote any one of the three I said before. | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:44 Holyflare wrote: I have scaling scum reads though. Gb top Tube Vivax Shockey HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA | ||
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On October 04 2019 01:56 Holyflare wrote: We need to consensus vote on one person today. I have made that abundantly clear. There are currently 2 confirmed town sitting on gb. Why are there more wagons? Anyone not on gb is actively throwing away their vote for a potential loss. Because I’m town and the confirmed townie is sheeping the guy who’s voting a townie who has the same PoE list as him ROFL | ||
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On October 04 2019 02:01 Holyflare wrote: Name a person in this thread that doesn't have the same poe list other than shockey. I'll wait. Didn't know you were in your own poe list either. So why aren’t we voting inside that PoE? | ||
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You know what I meant | ||
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On October 04 2019 02:04 Vivax wrote: If you look at it meta-wise, Tube is very motivated as town and once he gets going. This game his mood is down, he just sorts of lurk the thread making passive aggressive comments and occasionally loling. GB in the meantime seems to have him as lock scum for HFs actions saying that if he isn't wifoming or omgusing, lynching Tube is the rational play. Yet somehow I'm his vote. Sure Viv. I called you mafia since day1. Yet I shouldn’t be trying to lynch you | ||
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On October 04 2019 02:10 Vivax wrote: That said, seems to fit into the picture that Tube being considered half dead, GB started bussing him, they push me both at the same time for reasons that would actually make sense if I weren't so busy lately. You guys got it! I Mafia with tube Hey tube, check our qt, I’m conceding! | ||
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On October 04 2019 02:23 Vivax wrote: Yea you have called me mafia before I even wrote anything of substance. But hey, you have called me mafia there, so now you don't need to make sense. Fair enough | ||
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Reversed | ||
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On October 07 2019 03:08 Vivax wrote: I was so obvious. But RL interference was strong in this game. Grackaroni is the real hero. And HF. You were But I don’t think I would be able to catch holyflare. Some of his reactions felt really genuine | ||
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It was fun after all So glad to play a game with you guys again! Btw cake, you were great as town. People call other people names all the time. Don’t take it personally. I can’t be very rude sometimes but I never mean it | ||
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On October 07 2019 04:17 Holyflare wrote: You were very towny lol, dunno how you got lynched! Thanks <3 I know you are good as scum, but in this game you were a beast | ||
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On October 07 2019 05:42 CopCake wrote: GB it was nice to see you again. <3 In my opinion you played very well. I hope you keep playing | ||
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On September 26 2019 04:54 FreezingFoot wrote: FF and Vivax are mafia together There. I said it first. FreezingFoot is now GB Hey, guys, just wanted to show you this | ||
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This is more like me, cake XD | ||
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On October 08 2019 12:20 CopCake wrote: Well, all round I called you detective Glowing Bear. My heart always knewwwww you were town. <3 <3 <3 Are we having another game or is TL Mafia ded? | ||
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