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On July 26 2019 23:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 18:14 Holyflare wrote:
Like fuck me are you the Alakaslam fan base or something? Why can he not defend himself without you? I agree with this Koshi it is scummy as hell of you and makes me think I am wrong.
I will consider you off the lynch table and essentially town for a day if you can successfully start a wagon that lynches Koshi today.
I think he’s scum this game.
However I also think there is scum in you, FF, and Chezinu and all four of you cannot be scum.
You all should fight each other.
-wherebugsgo
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I’m off to bed, weather here sucks.
Here are some random thoughts with no conclusions whatsoever. I guess they are more observations that others may or may not have noticed.
1. Eywa has gone from being fairly loud on day 1 to essentially completely irrelevant
2. Chezinu is voting tube and hasn’t explained it
3. Slam is making up reasons as he goes along, it seems. Read HF -> must be town
Reread HF -> top scum
But not that top, Pandain is more top
But if Pandain is not, it’s HF
But their alignments have nothing to do with each other
Oh btw one of them is scum because rayn voters had to have a scum in there
Oh but I didn’t mention that because I couldn’t express it
....????
Good night and good luck.
-wherebugsgo
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I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.
I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)
I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.
Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 27 2019 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 08:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.
I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)
I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.
Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.
-wherebugsgo
NO ONE had solid reasons, please stop fooling yourself. I read them all, they were all shit, and I knew it, soon you will know that too, ok?
Says the player who can’t even explain what read he has on HF or why despite claiming to know him intimately as a lawyer
And soon I will know it? What kind of empty threat is that LOL
-wherebugsgo
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Chezinu what do you say about celebrating your 10 years by being lynched in this game today?
We can celebrate 8 years for me while we’re at it
-wherebugsgo
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On July 27 2019 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 09:17 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:On July 27 2019 08:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.
I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)
I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.
Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.
-wherebugsgo
NO ONE had solid reasons, please stop fooling yourself. I read them all, they were all shit, and I knew it, soon you will know that too, ok? Says the player who can’t even explain what read he has on HF or why despite claiming to know him intimately as a lawyer And soon I will know it? What kind of empty threat is that LOL -wherebugsgo Empty threat? Do you not know I lead the wagon? I will flip tomorrow. You’ll know that I’ve been genuine. What other conclusion can you draw? I have never been good at explaining things. I’ve been good at being right sometimes though.
I mean, whatever you flip, the reasons for killing rayn will remain solid. [spoiler]He was useless and would have continued to be useless as he is every game. He flips coins to push lynches and claims he’s a god when he’s right and that he did absolutely nothing wrong when a townie flips despite being 100% certain on everything, like how certain he was that we are scum this game before we even posted. This is backed up by the fact that he has the most games by far on this forum with a decidedly mediocre record and that even with one other townie who knew his alignment he got 6 votes and died on day 1.
No matter how you slice it, someone like that who has 6 pages of filter day 1 but still manages to die is not worth keeping around to pollute the game and make it harder for others to play/enjoy. This is a team game, not an ego-stroking contest about who’s the most right about everything all the time (which rayn loses anyway) [spoiler]
If you are actually town, take your head out of your ass and try to provide real reasons for the reads you are posting in the thread because what you are doing right now is not working. If you want to be an asshole then you can get deleted from the game. And I’m saying that as someone who doesn’t have direct vote power this game and isn’t even voting you. If you give up as town minutes into d2 before even taking votes (which is what it looked like you did) just because you feel we lynched someone for the wrong reasons on d1 despite the fact that you can’t even articulate those reasons, AND you can’t articulate why we should listen to you now or even who you read as scum, then, well, idgaf what your alignment is and yes it is actually better for us to see you flip because several people other than myself already want you out of the game.
If you are town, I’m really actually trying to give you a sense for why people think you’re not. I trust that if you are actually town you’ll make an effort to listen to me and play the game.
And before tube says it, no, merely posting does not qualify as town play.
-wherebugsgo
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Slam you’re talking to someone (me) who doesn’t actually believe that an individual being right in this game matters as much as a host of other things. You have an 80% chance of being right on any given townread. That’s high enough that psychologically speaking everyone will think their own townreads are great and when they get validated they’ll wonder why everyone else is crazy for not seeing what they do. Even being aware of this I fall into that trap all the time.
idgaf if you were right once, twice, or three times in a game. Many times the optimal play is to get rid of the least collaborative player regardless of their alignment because then people can actually pool their reads and work the puzzle out because even if that one person they deleted is a genius, if they’re a genius asshole no one was going to listen to them anyway.
You may dislike groupthink but this is literally a game that proves the power of groups that work collaboratively versus the futility of individuals who ultimately are more likely to overestimate their own abilities. If you cannot articulate your reasons for thinking things and convince others then for all intents and purposes you may as well be flipping coins. None of the rest of us can tell any difference and none of your posts establish to us that you’re worth paying attention to.
Think about all the best town players on this forum. Foolishness, Radfield, kita, sandroba, syllogism, marv (when he wasn’t burned out like me and being a dick hahaha). All of these players have good reads, yes, but they work very well with others, and almost never get lynched, because they are genuinely collaborative. Compare to people who probably have good reads about as often but are terrible collaborators and you’ll see the stark difference in team outcomes.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 27 2019 12:28 Chezinu wrote:
His list of best town players and my list of best town players are totally different.. he didnt even have Ver or BC in his list...
I never played with Ver. Incognito yes, one game only though...I think. Or maybe that was me cohosting.
I love BC and think he’s a great scum player, probably top 5 scum. I think his town play is average and he’d probably agree with me. Like me, BC is prone to catch on logic errors and people going pants-on-head which often distracts from scum hunting because tiniest act illogically all the time. Also we both share a good rage every now and then.
Replace BC with Ace and exactly the same thing applies IMO.
P.S. fuck coffee
Actually fuck anything that isn’t water
-wherebugsgo
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On July 27 2019 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 09:17 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:On July 27 2019 08:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.
I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)
I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.
Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.
-wherebugsgo
NO ONE had solid reasons, please stop fooling yourself. I read them all, they were all shit, and I knew it, soon you will know that too, ok? Says the player who can’t even explain what read he has on HF or why despite claiming to know him intimately as a lawyer And soon I will know it? What kind of empty threat is that LOL -wherebugsgo What other conclusion can you draw? I have never been good at explaining things. I’ve been good at being right sometimes though.
The problem is one of availability.
-J
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On July 27 2019 15:28 Branch.AUT wrote:
Theres one post by the hydra that i mentioned above that also makes me suspicious. The way the thought is phrased just seems like he knows too much about the setup
How so?
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On July 27 2019 14:58 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 22:54 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Soon after I made the activity post and asked why don’t we kill Coag for the same reasons as Pandain he gets replaced LOL
Game is harder than it should be.
Pandain can we expect you to actually do anything day 2? I seem to be the only player who actually believes in giving you a chance to contribute because you are a potential asset if you’re town. If it’s a no, then regardless of your alignment I humbly request you replace out if you can. I like playing with you but I will most definitely not bother defending you today if this play continues. Cause, well, even if you’re not scum you’re not doing anything to indicate that.
-wherebugsgo This sounds like you were already anticipating a coag lynch. Which would make your life easier only if youre scum, and you already knew coag would flip town. Very suspicious.
Nope. I wasn't anticipating a coag lynch because I 1. wasn't voting Coag (Jock controls the vote so even if I did want to vote Coag it would've been down to what Jock thought), 2. no one else wanted to kill Coag, and 3. I never actually believed he was the best lynch for today and AFAIK Jock doesn't either.
As for why I said the game is harder than it should be, replacements make the game harder because:
1. the original player was inactive warranting the replacement and inactivity is hard to deal with in general
2. given the replacement will have a different style it'll take time to read them and adjust/reconcile the differences between the two players. I pretty much just ignore the replacement for the first cycle
3. There's been a history of scum replacements in particular wrecking face because they get a ton of leeway and they essentially have a cycle headstart.
4. The replacement themselves might be less active than an average player, depending on the reason they decided to be a replacement and not join the game in the first place (like if they have less time than usual)
Anyway, you're new, so I don't expect you to be able to understand every thought process that folks have right off the bat, and I like that you're thinking. Actually so far I don't see anything particularly wrong with your posts so maybe I'll even count you townish for now. Just note that this post came off to me a bit like you're overthinking things that might remotely involve you (given that you know what I said about Coag and you are the same alignment). If you think I'm scum I encourage you to read my posts at face value in their entirety instead of nitpicking me, because nitpicking will not get you very far.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 27 2019 10:36 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 10:13 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:On July 27 2019 09:17 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:On July 27 2019 08:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.
I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)
I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.
Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.
-wherebugsgo
NO ONE had solid reasons, please stop fooling yourself. I read them all, they were all shit, and I knew it, soon you will know that too, ok? Says the player who can’t even explain what read he has on HF or why despite claiming to know him intimately as a lawyer And soon I will know it? What kind of empty threat is that LOL -wherebugsgo Empty threat? Do you not know I lead the wagon? I will flip tomorrow. You’ll know that I’ve been genuine. What other conclusion can you draw? I have never been good at explaining things. I’ve been good at being right sometimes though. I mean, whatever you flip, the reasons for killing rayn will remain solid. [spoiler]He was useless and would have continued to be useless as he is every game. He flips coins to push lynches and claims he’s a god when he’s right and that he did absolutely nothing wrong when a townie flips despite being 100% certain on everything, like how certain he was that we are scum this game before we even posted. This is backed up by the fact that he has the most games by far on this forum with a decidedly mediocre record and that even with one other townie who knew his alignment he got 6 votes and died on day 1. No matter how you slice it, someone like that who has 6 pages of filter day 1 but still manages to die is not worth keeping around to pollute the game and make it harder for others to play/enjoy. This is a team game, not an ego-stroking contest about who’s the most right about everything all the time (which rayn loses anyway) [spoiler] If you are actually town, take your head out of your ass and try to provide real reasons for the reads you are posting in the thread because what you are doing right now is not working. If you want to be an asshole then you can get deleted from the game. And I’m saying that as someone who doesn’t have direct vote power this game and isn’t even voting you. If you give up as town minutes into d2 before even taking votes (which is what it looked like you did) just because you feel we lynched someone for the wrong reasons on d1 despite the fact that you can’t even articulate those reasons, AND you can’t articulate why we should listen to you now or even who you read as scum, then, well, idgaf what your alignment is and yes it is actually better for us to see you flip because several people other than myself already want you out of the game. If you are town, I’m really actually trying to give you a sense for why people think you’re not. I trust that if you are actually town you’ll make an effort to listen to me and play the game. And before tube says it, no, merely posting does not qualify as town play. -wherebugsgo Actually I am sick of the group think. If I fully articulated the reasons I know stuff I don’t think they’d be believed anyway. They are usually combinations of a lot of little things that I don’t immediately have total recall of. Have you ever met a brilliant illiterate? Not that I am illiterate, but my mind has a totally different style of memory from most people on here. I am not a garbage trap mind, that has total recall of a lot of facts. Nor am I a particularly deep thinker; if I were, I could meditate on my reads and eventually articulate them- if not beautifully and concisely so in fact. What I am, is someone who can recognize patterns accurately even when I cannot describe them. My IQ scores were great! My actual general knowledge, isn’t so great! My ability to recognize that someone is being sarcastic is pure shit! But my ability to recognize when something is not right is pretty damn good, and recognizing someone’s family comes naturally to me. So describing my reads sucks. I have a decidedly terrible record. So I agree? Like my vote is where it is as of when I recognized what you are trying to tell me. BUT HERE IS THE KICKER I WAS RIGHT I DIDNT KNOW WHY BUT I WAS DEAD CERTAIN. WHEN I AM CERTAIN, I KNOW. So if I am certain again, I want to at least leave the game something to go on before I go. Tomorrow, I go to Malibu to take photos with my fiancé. I won’t be here for EOD. I may or may not move my vote before then but I doubt it. Unfortunately at the moment I am not certain on anyone like I was certain on Rayn. I will try to be before I go but I can only do what I can, I am better at townreads than scum reads.
If you die at EoD today will you feel like you have accomplished what you wanted to?
I'd like to be able to communicate properly with you but I'm a child, I talk like a child, I think like a child, I reason like a child.
-J
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On July 27 2019 16:57 Eversince wrote:
@Jock
Also if he's actually town that's the most m!Slam way t!Slam can make. He's literally playing as scum because if he IS town and martyrs, we have 1 mislynch to catch all 3 mafia..
(not jock, but FWIW)
I actually was thinking about slam martyr voting himself and I just don't get it.
Like we were in the vote lead (technically) and if he was scum he could have sheeped FF & tube on us and comfortably put us in the lead; Pandain's vote would've tied but it would have needed another vote to put slam in the lead again.
So why self vote to put himself in the lead exactly? As either alignment?
I'll be honest, I'm leaning toward just looking at someone else today because I'm having a hard time understanding slam's play from either perspective, and FF has some redeeming posts from day 1 & doesn't seem like anyone else thinks FF is scum.
What if we just killed Koshi?
-wherebugsgo
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Eversince how was your breakfast? I know its the most important meal of the day but it doesn't normally take me 36 hours to make and eat it
-J
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On July 27 2019 17:18 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 17:04 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 16:57 Eversince wrote:
@Jock
Also if he's actually town that's the most m!Slam way t!Slam can make. He's literally playing as scum because if he IS town and martyrs, we have 1 mislynch to catch all 3 mafia.. (not jock, but FWIW) I actually was thinking about slam martyr voting himself and I just don't get it. Like we were in the vote lead (technically) and if he was scum he could have sheeped FF & tube on us and comfortably put us in the lead; Pandain's vote would've tied but it would have needed another vote to put slam in the lead again. So why self vote to put himself in the lead exactly? As either alignment? I'll be honest, I'm leaning toward just looking at someone else today because I'm having a hard time understanding slam's play from either perspective, and FF has some redeeming posts from day 1 & doesn't seem like anyone else thinks FF is scum. What if we just killed Koshi? -wherebugsgo If he's mafia trying to push himself to death so he can 'spend time with future wife' seems like a good way to play Appeal to Emotion card like he's done all game. People move, he get free pass to drop from the game for "reason he already posted" But that's a really rude move. (This last sentence might be my bias though, I don't lie about afk  ) I'd be ok with Koshi. He's playing like a lost sheep and that dumpster of a mess between HF/Koshi/Slam was just really bad. I would probably of ask same type of questions in HF shoes (not really because I thought Rayn was town to, but here again.. bias. I sub in after Rayn is already dead.) Chez would be fine with me to. He's literally contributed 0 to this game .
I’m good with killing Chezinu too but I think Jock finds him unreadable.
I moved Koshi off my watchlist and onto my kill list. Moved eywa into my watchlist, but the activity drop was expected as eywa mentioned it. I think I’m fine with punting both HF and Pandain to tomorrow and neither of them will die today, that seems for sure. I think I move FF to watchlist as well, that one I’m not sure about...I have plenty of reasons I wanna kill FF but again some tone-wise good posts even if I think the content is bad.
Here’s my lists in no particular order
Kill:
Koshi
Slam
Chezinu
Watch:
FF
Eywa
Everyone else: tentatively townreading
Dead game
-wherebugsgo
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Koshi is mafia.
##unvote
##vote koshi
-J
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On July 27 2019 18:58 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 16:59 Eversince wrote:
I also don't see how saying the 'game' is hard is anything more than NAI either. But I've liked Coag slot since he got replaced so far to What he said was the game 'got harder' when coag was replaced and the slot went from inactive to active player. From a town perspective, one more player is one more lynch chance. From a mafia perspective, one more player means one more chance got get caught. It is because ofthis mind slip, readjusting scum strategy around another required mislynch, that I find NSHs play very suspicious. The immediat willingness so switch vote from slam to koshi at an opportunistic moment makes me shift my assessment of the hydra even further towards scum.
again, nope
1. "another" required mislynch -> if I were scum I wouldn't care, anyone in this game is lynchable. Number of mislynches to win doesn't change.
2. we never voted slam. Our vote was on FF, and as I mentioned earlier he was not gaining any traction. Try to keep up.
3. What opportunistic moment? Literally no one was talking about Koshi until I mentioned him. Why the hell would I bother shifting attention to Koshi as scum if slam is town? I'd just let slam die quietly instead of bothering to post anything at all.
Unless you're implying that we're scum with slam, which is laughable.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 27 2019 19:29 Branch.AUT wrote:Your sudden and unexplained koshi push baffles me. How do you arrive at a scum!koshi conclusion?
I don't know how you could come to any other conclusion tbh.
-J
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On July 27 2019 19:36 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 17:18 Eversince wrote:On July 27 2019 17:04 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 27 2019 16:57 Eversince wrote:
@Jock
Also if he's actually town that's the most m!Slam way t!Slam can make. He's literally playing as scum because if he IS town and martyrs, we have 1 mislynch to catch all 3 mafia.. (not jock, but FWIW) I actually was thinking about slam martyr voting himself and I just don't get it. Like we were in the vote lead (technically) and if he was scum he could have sheeped FF & tube on us and comfortably put us in the lead; Pandain's vote would've tied but it would have needed another vote to put slam in the lead again. So why self vote to put himself in the lead exactly? As either alignment? I'll be honest, I'm leaning toward just looking at someone else today because I'm having a hard time understanding slam's play from either perspective, and FF has some redeeming posts from day 1 & doesn't seem like anyone else thinks FF is scum. What if we just killed Koshi? -wherebugsgo If he's mafia trying to push himself to death so he can 'spend time with future wife' seems like a good way to play Appeal to Emotion card like he's done all game. People move, he get free pass to drop from the game for "reason he already posted" But that's a really rude move. (This last sentence might be my bias though, I don't lie about afk ) I'd be ok with Koshi. He's playing like a lost sheep and that dumpster of a mess between HF/Koshi/Slam was just really bad. I would probably of ask same type of questions in HF shoes (not really because I thought Rayn was town to, but here again.. bias. I sub in after Rayn is already dead.)Chez would be fine with me to. He's literally contributed 0 to this game . To summarize why I think that: Koshi buddies right up to Eywa super early, He's been sheeping 'best player Slam' from pretty early, then when Slam makes some questionable remark about Vivax read, he's wayyy over defensive on it. and now he's just fine with dying which sends the same red flags (pretty darn big red flags about just rolling over and dying) I think most of his reads are not original and the mess that occurs from it is bleh.
while we're at it, my reasons are different (good sign that Koshi is scum)
1. Koshi knows rayn pretty well but often specifically called rayn "anti-town" instead of "scum" even before the flip:
On July 25 2019 00:41 Koshi wrote:
If you read rayn page 5 and dont vote him limits are off again for this game.
Pure anti town shitty behaviour.
Dont vote for that.
Keep anti town in the game.
Good move.
This is relatively small by itself but important together with other details, like:
2. On day 1 Koshi posted a lot of things that seemed to indicate he has too much information, and in particular kind of ridiculed people from the sidelines for things that are not really obvious when you don't have complete information. For example:
On July 25 2019 00:33 Koshi wrote:
Ewya says rayn is mafia.
-> People think Ewya is town.
Hydra agrees with Eywa
-> People call hydra mafia for the dumbest reasons.
Oh well.
On July 25 2019 00:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 23:58 Vivax wrote:On July 24 2019 02:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Immediate gut reactions:
Don't like koshi's first post. No redeeming features of that one.
Don't like the way hf misunderstands the day post and then uses his own misunderstanding as evidence that he is town. Although rayn is right that it would be convoluted for mafia hf to do that, I wouldn't put convoluted out of hf's range.
Vivax - nothingburger
Coagulation - Scumclaims suck dude.
FF - dunno
Eywa - Very quick to scumread rayn but I wouldn't say that's impossible for town eywa.
rayn - waiting to see on this one.
Leaving now, won't be back until later tonight. Might have a chance to post something more fleshed out then.
Despite what I said about rayn wanting to lynch us, I think in a game this size lynching a lurker would be a good move.
J You type it like scumreading rayn is a scummy thing to do while not townreading him. Scummy. Here another person who interprets something wrong and I saw some1 else actually agreeing with the wrong interpretation. What the smurf means: Normally I find it scummy if somebody so strongly scumreading somebody else. However, in the case of Ewya, I think it is in his town range. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RAYN HIS ALIGNMENT OR THE HYDRA THEIR VIEW ON RAYN.
The second post in particular indicates to some degree that he knows Vivax is town, interpretting something incorrectly, then also implies that he knows there are other people who "agreed" with this.
Then he speaks on our behalf as if he knows we're town
and this:
On July 25 2019 00:38 Koshi wrote:
How you people dont get that is beyond me.
Anyway I am afk.
I havent read anything but at least enough there is 1 person worthy to sheep.
Also, people also call hf town, and hf calls rayn mafia.
AND STILL THOSE PEOPLE vote for the scumread of rayn... lol.
Lastly,
3. Koshi calls out people for doing stuff/being things he himself admits to doing. This is particularly evident for what he claims about HF:
On July 27 2019 19:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 19:23 Eversince wrote:
It's only shade if it's not true Koshi. Otherwise it's just true.. When was the last time trying to talk civilly was a bad thing? Right after you said Rayn deserved to die for blowing up temper. Try to actually read what I mean Eversince and try to think about what I mean. If you think I meant HF is a bad human being for being civil and that was the entire point of my post then maybe just stop playing mafia. My point was clear. HF doesnt give a shit this game and you can see him giving a shit in his argument with me. That same engagement does not trabslate into solving the game.
If that is not a good point for somebody being mafia then w.e.
I am not saying it makes him 100% mafia though.
Bonus points for that hedge right at the end.
Similarly,
On July 27 2019 19:19 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure hf is mafia just skating by. You saw the waterfall on words in his argumebt with me? You saw something like that solving this game? Nope...
And he was too diplomatic and clean in the end. Trying to shade me a bit with the Alakasam fanclub and shit.
Oh well. It worked.
Good on him
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On July 26 2019 18:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 26 2019 17:59 Koshi wrote:On July 26 2019 17:33 Holyflare wrote:On July 26 2019 17:29 Koshi wrote:
You say slam is clear town. 2 seconds later he is clear mafia for a decent post.
Please. Go away. When on earth have I ever said slam is clear town? Wtf? And, no, it's not a decent post. Explain why just haphazardly calling chezinu and myself more likely mafia if pandain flips town is a good post. What logic is slam using here that's good? What correlation does pandain have to mine or chezinu's alignment? Not only does it NOT have a correlation but the original question of the chain was WHY does chezinu make this post and slam's answer was that he could be mafia. Why does he intertwine pandain and myself into his scum read of chezinu here and why is chezinu only more mafia if pandain is green when he thinks chezinu is now mafia to begin with? Vivax died. Filter. 2 names. I mean this literally doesn't answer anything nor does it explain why it's a good post for you but let's move on and I'll wait for slam's answer to my other question. Ok you admit to not reading. I am fine lynching you then.
Compare what Koshi says about HF in those posts to what he says about himself:
On July 27 2019 19:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2019 19:12 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 27 2019 19:08 Koshi wrote:
I am still ok with dieing.
I think HF could be mafia at this point.
Did nothing but focus on some dumb shit that would not be a townie priority.
So those 4 names I said. I am happy with them.
I didnt know eywa announced this afk stuff though. But still. Too long. Deserves to go down in list.
Maybe I should reread mz but Vivax told me he was town.
Hi koshi. Lets talk about HF. What makes you scum read him? Im still undecided on his alignment First. I am not really reading this game but skimming. Important that you know that.For me it is lack of solving. I have no idea what he is doing big picture wise. And his attack on slam looked so bad. Others seem to not agree but it was just nitpicking some poor sob into oblivion. Didnt seem like anything good would come out of it.
On July 27 2019 19:08 Koshi wrote:
I am still ok with dieing.
I think HF could be mafia at this point.
Did nothing but focus on some dumb shit that would not be a townie priority.
So those 4 names I said. I am happy with them.
I didnt know eywa announced this afk stuff though. But still. Too long. Deserves to go down in list.
Maybe I should reread mz but Vivax told me he was town.
"I'm okay with dying" = more or less doesn't give a shit about this game
On July 25 2019 00:38 Koshi wrote:
How you people dont get that is beyond me.
Anyway I am afk.
I havent read anything but at least enough there is 1 person worthy to sheep.
Also, people also call hf town, and hf calls rayn mafia.
AND STILL THOSE PEOPLE vote for the scumread of rayn... lol.
On July 26 2019 18:04 Koshi wrote:
Guys... I dont think I will do quality posting this game.
But I will at least not spam.
On July 26 2019 07:10 Koshi wrote:
I'll sheep slam even though I dont think Pandain is the best kill. But I dont know who is.
etc.
yeah, paragon of effort in trying to solve the game here.
-wherebugsgo
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