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aka... jugs? Jock what do we call ourselves anyway -wherebugsgo | ||
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On July 16 2019 04:10 NoSmurfHere wrote: aka... jugs? Jock what do we call ourselves anyway -wherebugsgo Jugs is cool Also BugsGoPlop is fun. | ||
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Must be doing something right. Either that or (more likely) Rayn's method of scumhunting this game includes a blindfold and some darts. | ||
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Too early to tell which. You won't get any real reads out of me for the first 24 hours just reactions at this point. J is for Jock. | ||
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On July 24 2019 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: But that's not true (the random thing). Also "method of scumhunting this game includes a blindfold and some darts" includes the association of me actually scumhunting so why am i scumhunting as mafia? Wow we haven't even posted anything yet and rayn wants to kill us. Must be doing something right. Implying that you are scum and we must be doing something right for scum to want to kill us. Either that or (more likely) Rayn's method of scumhunting this game includes a blindfold and some darts. Personally to me your random insane beginning to the game is more typical of town rayn but meh, i have no read at the moment. | ||
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I might fogert to sign a few more. Its Jock until further notice. | ||
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On July 24 2019 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: can you elaborate more onto this, especially the insane part? Well what you've done so far: Failed to understand hf's post and scumread him for it Went back on this when you realized. Failed to understand eywa's sarcastic post. Scumread koshi off a single post Said you want to lynch one of the roughly 8 people who hadn't posted and ignored the rest. Failed to understand my post above. Seems like typical rayn to me lol. Completely mad. | ||
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On July 24 2019 02:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you clearly explain to me why i SHOULD have immediately understood HF's post? Can you clearly explain to me why i SHOULD have immediately understood Eywa's post? What does my read on Koshi have to do with anything? You never state if you agree or disagree with my reasoning. Yeah i have my reasons to think you are mafia. Bugs is from Canada i think and you are "afraid to post" when you are mafia. I scumread you because you are euro and bugs can be afk (reasonably assumed because he is not afraid to post even as mafia), if you don't get hold of your NA hydra partner it's an aasumption that's why you don't post during EU hours while you usually post a lot. I don't think i failed to understand your post above. HFs post was easy to understand. The immediate reaction to it would be the correct one. I was confused when you reacted like you did. Eywa, fair enough, that was subtle sarcasm. I have played one game as mafia here, and one on another site. I have never been afraid to post (I didn't post much near the end of my mafia game here but at the beginning i was very active). Think about the mechanics of playing hydra and then try to imagine why one of the players wouldn't want to go posting a load of their instinctive reads right at the beginning of the game before talking to the other guy. I'm not compromising on that either. Don't get me wrong rayn, i think you're being decisive, I just but you can be decisive without being right about anything. And yeah, I had to explain my post above in detail and somehow you still don't seem to get it. | ||
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On July 24 2019 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: this is a definite and through explanation on why i am NOT misunderstanding any of hydra's posts. The implication they make doesn't even make any fucking sense at all. rayn is scum and we are doing something right with not posting at all, aka "he is afraid of us so he is calling us mafia" does anyone believe this is an explanation that comes to any townie's mind when about eight people have not posted? Nah, I said "must be doing something right" because I was trying to imply that it would be good for mafia to want to kill us, because we are town. | ||
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On July 24 2019 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Jock can you explain it to me why i should read this post "i read Pandain's name as Palmar's" instead of "i looked at Pa- and then decided it's Palmar because i saw a name written in green in the OP"? Because you can choose how you read things. You can try to read things as they were intended, or you can try to read things the way you want them to be if you already decided you were going to pressure someone. J | ||
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Have the last word if you want rayn. Its too early in the game for this level of aggro. ![[image loading]](https://www.unh.edu/healthyunh/sites/default/files/styles/article/public/blog-post/sunset-meditation-mudra.jpg?itok=J15kNKo4) J | ||
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Don't like koshi's first post. No redeeming features of that one. Don't like the way hf misunderstands the day post and then uses his own misunderstanding as evidence that he is town. Although rayn is right that it would be convoluted for mafia hf to do that, I wouldn't put convoluted out of hf's range. Vivax - nothingburger Coagulation - Scumclaims suck dude. FF - dunno Eywa - Very quick to scumread rayn but I wouldn't say that's impossible for town eywa. rayn - waiting to see on this one. Leaving now, won't be back until later tonight. Might have a chance to post something more fleshed out then. Despite what I said about rayn wanting to lynch us, I think in a game this size lynching a lurker would be a good move. J | ||
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When you're in a game of this size and there's loads of people not posting there's probably mafia in there, right? | ||
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Let me explain what I’m planning to do this game. TL;drs in bold. 1. I will post fairly rarely myself and let Jock drive mostly. When I do post, I will try to consolidate as much as possible so expect walls. If you want to ask me questions specifically, just @bugs or @wbg 2. Jock controls the vote unless he specifically asks me to vote(or something weird comes up like I’m around for deadline and he isn’t and he’s told me in advance I can change the vote) 3. I normally reread a lot but in this game I will not due to time constraints and wanting to try out only reading the thread once. 4. I plan on forming my own opinions separate from Jock and I may pick up activity to push a lynch if we both independently agree on a read before sharing detailed thoughts with each other. Otherwise I probably will not be leading lynches as much as I do normally, and if Jock and I disagree on a read even after sharing thoughts I’ll try to make that as clear as possible when we are ready to share. /end explanation On July 24 2019 07:56 Coagulation wrote: No one has any fucking clue in the slightest as to who is mafia unless they ARE mafia by design. Anyone posting anything to the contrary is completely full of shit. Hey coag, sup bb? Jackal still hate my guts? Lolol I stopped reading the thread here and will continue my read after posting this because this is my choice for the best post m/post I agree with the most so far, regardless of coag’s alignment. I often pretend to have reads in this part of the game to generate discussion but anyone who posts like they genuinely believe they’ve got a strong read by this point is mafia or kidding themselves and making the game harder. We should strive for a good lynch day 1 and days to come by creating a collaborative atmosphere, but accept that we’re no more likely than chance to hit scum day 1 and if there is still a ton of in-fighting end of day 1 rather than most people working well together (discounting 1 or 2 outliers) I think we should accept that game theoretically no-lynch is best. With all of that said, and though I suspect Jock disagrees with me right now, I’d be completely fine with killing rayn because he’s the number 1 contributor to an anti-town atmosphere so far. Why do I say that? 1. He spent way more time than necessary fighting with HF over something that should be obvious. My initial thought was “dumb or scum” because the only town reason I could see for rayn making the posts he made, with the convoluted timeline he had cooked up, was to make some sort of bait play on HF reading into flavour text. 2. He lectured Koshi for a half page over a single post, and then abruptly changed subjects to others (slam, FF IIRC?) without actually saying anything in the end. This did nothing to further discussion. This is despite rayn saying that he often guards his reads/opinions early (for what purpose? Presumably to prevent manipulation by mafia, but then what’s the point of that post he made after Koshi?) 3. Seems to be pretending to want a clean town atmosphere while subtly claiming he is town, but in ways that seem unnatural and forced. This is also at odds with the net result of his posts. Rayn certainly has the capability of doing this as town, but given that his posts are not useful for anyone else to find scum and they’re just purely distracting it makes sense to kill him anyway. For instance, he told HF he wants to stop fighting over things that make “neither of us scum” which is a strange way of saying that he wants to work with HF if rayn is actually town. However his actions even afterward point to him picking fights with people (such as my hydra partner) over things that aren’t alignment indicative. (Bonus) 4. Rayn pulled an unforced “if I had to lynch someone now” just a few hours into the game, pulling a few names out, one of them being ours. As jock pointed out we hadn’t even posted at that point. a.) no one asked, and b.) there is no worthy reason for wanting to kill a player who hasn’t posted only a few hours into day 1. This post and the items on Slam & FF seemed to me more like posturing to “have some reads” after the HF push didn’t work out rather than anything of real substance. -wherebugsgo | ||
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Last two things I wanted to point out: 1. Rayn being 100% sure on Jock being scum is not new and unfortunately not alignment indicative. It’s 100% on Jock alone because he said it before I posted. He’s wrong, so the only thing for us to do now is to figure out whether he’s town and being bad as usual or bad scum who believes he can ramrod a lynch in a fairly desperate situation. Quite funny because I’d love to be eating votes early as scum and soaking up tons of attention because I could trash the thread on purpose and still live, but in rayn’s case I think he’s not a great scum player and pressure naturally causes him anxiety. I also think it will be very evident based on my own posts what alignment we are, even if Jock posts stuff that causes people to scumread us (I actually don’t know why people are so bad at reading Jock in general...after my first game with him it seemed really obvious....) 2. My time zone is UTC +9 because I live in Japan. I’ll be in California next week from the 29th to the 5th, however. The current time here is 10:42 a.m. I will post probably a couple times in the morning in my local time and a couple times in the evening, and maybe a bit more on weekends. -wherebugsgo | ||
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