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Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:13 GMT
#1640
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:16 GMT
#1643
On July 31 2019 03:13 Eversince wrote:
Agree Eywa push is trash. Happens that all my scum reads are on it is enough reason for me to never vote there :p!

So you think scum at this phase of the game, would all pile onto a single wagon with nobody else?
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:21 GMT
#1648
On July 31 2019 03:18 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Actually we learn a ton if the lynch is between Koshi and FF. They have tons of interactions with other players and FF in particular (IIRC) is a defender of Koshi.

Making people pick between those two is way better than having them pick between either of them and Eywa, especially when the only people who seem to agree on Eywa are the ones voting him

Presumably they either think the other is town or scum bussing here, and given that almost no one outside you 3 thinks Eywa is scum, it’s much better to have people split between the two players that are actually being called scum.

-wherebugsgo


Making FF a lynch target basically lets Mafia pick whoever they want. Its rather unlikely that we have 3 scum up for lynch. Therefore I wouldn't push FF In this situation. Especially considering that their volume of post and current standing in the thread are quite similar. Do you know what I mean?
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:23 GMT
#1650
On July 31 2019 03:18 Eversince wrote:
And I'm saying Eywa played this same way as town so I see it as more NAI. I won't support people being a pain but being a pain doesn't make you mafia by itself. If I'd never seen Eywa play before I might be swayed here..

I have never seen her play before, so forgive me if I'm not convinced. The way I see it rolling scum is an excellent occasion to use your established meta to backstab everyone.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:24 GMT
#1651
On July 31 2019 03:23 Eversince wrote:
You're giving Koshi/FF pass based on volume of post then?

No neither gets a pass. I think we get more info from lynching Koshi vs Eywa instead of FF
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:26 GMT
#1654
On July 31 2019 03:24 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:21 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:18 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Actually we learn a ton if the lynch is between Koshi and FF. They have tons of interactions with other players and FF in particular (IIRC) is a defender of Koshi.

Making people pick between those two is way better than having them pick between either of them and Eywa, especially when the only people who seem to agree on Eywa are the ones voting him

Presumably they either think the other is town or scum bussing here, and given that almost no one outside you 3 thinks Eywa is scum, it’s much better to have people split between the two players that are actually being called scum.

-wherebugsgo


Making FF a lynch target basically lets Mafia pick whoever they want. Its rather unlikely that we have 3 scum up for lynch. Therefore I wouldn't push FF In this situation. Especially considering that their volume of post and current standing in the thread are quite similar. Do you know what I mean?


I’m telling you that we 100% will not lynch Eywa today, not with TWO SCUM CANDIDATES VOTING HIM.

If you vote anyone other than FF or Koshi today I will assume you are scum. Between me and Jock you have more hope of convincing me that you are town and right now you’re not doing a very good job at that.

-wherebugsgo

I don't need to convince YOU of anything because YOU don't vote
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:27 GMT
#1656
On July 31 2019 03:24 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:23 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:18 Eversince wrote:
And I'm saying Eywa played this same way as town so I see it as more NAI. I won't support people being a pain but being a pain doesn't make you mafia by itself. If I'd never seen Eywa play before I might be swayed here..

I have never seen her play before, so forgive me if I'm not convinced. The way I see it rolling scum is an excellent occasion to use your established meta to backstab everyone.


Then you policy lynch Eywa every game?? Your not lynching Eywa because they are mafia then it's because you don't like how he plays?

In this game here, everybody has to choose. Right now we have Koshi (cod) Fecalfeast (salmon) and Eywa (Pork). If you make people choose between salmon and cod, everybody gets fish. Make them chose Cod or Pork, and we might find out whos fishy, and who likes meat :D
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:38 GMT
#1666
On July 31 2019 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Again, if you cannot be bothered to compare the remarkably similar filters of Eywa this game to last game (where he was town) why would we believe he's mafia for doing the same thing this game?

That seems like an uncredibly naive way to think about it.
The first time Eywa rolls scum and keeps playing the same, everybody gives them a free pass. Might be even now. Which is why I'm voting Eywa.

That sounds like a terrible risk to ignore.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:40 GMT
#1668
On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right


Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful?

You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af

It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone

-wherebugsgo

Holyflare has been doing the same exact thing with me. You never once called him scum. How come?
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 18:51 GMT
#1678
On July 31 2019 03:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:38 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:10 Eversince wrote:
@ Branch

Did you miss the multiple times I've listed why I m!Koshi? Miss the whole end of D2 where Pandain/myself pushed for a switch to Koshi over Chezinu? Or are you just trying to cast shadows on me?

I am asking you to reconsider your vote and go for Eywa, who has posted nothing but offhand accusations and useless comments.

If the lynch is between FF and Koshi, theres nothing to be learned. Both have posted too much, and posted too much nonsense.

Eywa postet nothing of substance. There is a huge contrast between either Koshi/FF and Eywa. Making the choice more meaningful for everyone.


Again, if you cannot be bothered to compare the remarkably similar filters of Eywa this game to last game (where he was town) why would we believe he's mafia for doing the same thing this game?

That seems like an uncredibly naive way to think about it.
The first time Eywa rolls scum and keeps playing the same, everybody gives them a free pass. Might be even now. Which is why I'm voting Eywa.

That sounds like a terrible risk to ignore.


No, it doesn't. Nobody plays the same in their first scum game. That doesn't answer my point either, why can't you simply go check? If your whole reason is that he plays badly then that's not a very concrete reason and nobody will follow you on it since you can't be bothered to prove why it's a mafia strategy. To me, he has a read on FF that FF hasn't countered amd nobody has really talked about while you dance around and attack his play style and koshi says some babbling nonsense and afks again.

If this is actually a playstyle, as you claim, it is incredibly easy to fake. Eywa also claims to be from a very successful scum hunting site, which makes it even more likely that this person is good at hiding alignment behind the useless lurking playstyle. Meta defense and last game don't matter when the playstyle is this easiliy fabricated.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:21 GMT
#1693
On July 31 2019 04:18 NoSmurfHere wrote:
It would have been the exact same if one of us posted a spreadsheet with version history. It’s actually easier to fake a paraphrase than it is to fake a spreadsheet of reads.

I think you’re just scum who is annoyed.

-wherebugsgo

I think you havent answered my question. Please take a look at it again
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:42 GMT
#1723
On July 31 2019 04:30 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
There's been a fuck tonne of words the past few pages but no compelling sentences on why we should lynch anyone's favourite target over anyone else.

Why?


That’s literally been the theme of this game.

I’m tired of explaining why we want to kill Koshi. You’re not reading so I see no reason why we need to explain things again. You weren’t reading when I was telling you why I think Koshi was a better kill than Chezinu so you getting worked up now is starting to rub me the wrong way

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 03:40 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right


Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful?

You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af

It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone

-wherebugsgo

Holyflare has been doing the same exact thing with me. You never once called him scum. How come?


If you meant this, branch, then I think you aren’t reading properly. I indeed have thought HF was scum at various points in this game and honestly even now his behavior is strange enough that he might be scum here.

However he simply is not the best lynch. There are enough reasons to call him town and not enough to call FF/Koshi town that it makes no sense to discuss him now, 1 hour before lynch, when we are not going to lynch him.

It bothers me that we have 30 minutes to go to deadline and you are trying to distract from the lynch at hand. Why is it important to discuss, at this very moment, my opinion on HF? Are we killing HF? No? Then why??

And this is coming from someone who called us out on supposed whataboutism earlier in the game. You must be scum here.

-wherebugsgo

You've called me scum at every point in this game, no matter what I did, so I no longer care about your opinion. Green flip, best defense.

If the Koshi lynch was as certain as you want it to be, we wouldn't be havin this conversation. Your reasons for voting Koshi are weak as garbage. And the only reason Koshi has so many Votes, is because your Hydra is supposedly confirmed town.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:47 GMT
#1738
Since we're consolidating Im putting my vote on koshi. Eywa and HF too suspicious to vote with. Hydra youre on the wrong track yet again
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:50 GMT
#1747
On July 31 2019 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 04:42 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 04:30 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
There's been a fuck tonne of words the past few pages but no compelling sentences on why we should lynch anyone's favourite target over anyone else.

Why?


That’s literally been the theme of this game.

I’m tired of explaining why we want to kill Koshi. You’re not reading so I see no reason why we need to explain things again. You weren’t reading when I was telling you why I think Koshi was a better kill than Chezinu so you getting worked up now is starting to rub me the wrong way

On July 31 2019 03:40 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right


Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful?

You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af

It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone

-wherebugsgo

Holyflare has been doing the same exact thing with me. You never once called him scum. How come?


If you meant this, branch, then I think you aren’t reading properly. I indeed have thought HF was scum at various points in this game and honestly even now his behavior is strange enough that he might be scum here.

However he simply is not the best lynch. There are enough reasons to call him town and not enough to call FF/Koshi town that it makes no sense to discuss him now, 1 hour before lynch, when we are not going to lynch him.

It bothers me that we have 30 minutes to go to deadline and you are trying to distract from the lynch at hand. Why is it important to discuss, at this very moment, my opinion on HF? Are we killing HF? No? Then why??

And this is coming from someone who called us out on supposed whataboutism earlier in the game. You must be scum here.

-wherebugsgo

You've called me scum at every point in this game, no matter what I did, so I no longer care about your opinion. Green flip, best defense.

If the Koshi lynch was as certain as you want it to be, we wouldn't be havin this conversation. Your reasons for voting Koshi are weak as garbage. And the only reason Koshi has so many Votes, is because your Hydra is supposedly confirmed town.

So you think it is Eywa, who and who?

Just pushed Eywa to get reaction. Only thing I got was Koshi and FF flopping onto it. Don't like the filter. If Scum then with HF
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:56 GMT
#1765
On July 31 2019 04:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Eywa is dude

Eywa was at wedding

scum goes to wedding. Watch the Godfather with Marlon Brando
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:57 GMT
#1774
On July 31 2019 04:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 04:47 Branch.AUT wrote:
Since we're consolidating Im putting my vote on koshi. Eywa and HF too suspicious to vote with. Hydra youre on the wrong track yet again


THE ONLY REASON YOU THINK THE HYDRA IS TOWN IS BECAUSE YOU ARBITRARILY CONFIRMED ME AS TOWN LOL.

Beind town, don't mean knowing all alignments. That is called being scum.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:59 GMT
#1783
Incredibly Green. Read my filter
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 19:59 GMT
#1787
On July 31 2019 04:59 Koshi wrote:
VOTE KOSHI

You know its not class president, right?
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
July 30 2019 20:41 GMT
#1809
On July 31 2019 05:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2019 04:57 Branch.AUT wrote:
On July 31 2019 04:55 Holyflare wrote:
On July 31 2019 04:47 Branch.AUT wrote:
Since we're consolidating Im putting my vote on koshi. Eywa and HF too suspicious to vote with. Hydra youre on the wrong track yet again


THE ONLY REASON YOU THINK THE HYDRA IS TOWN IS BECAUSE YOU ARBITRARILY CONFIRMED ME AS TOWN LOL.

Beind town, don't mean knowing all alignments. That is called being scum.


This doesn't mean anything. This is literally a sentence that doesn't address a single thing I wrote.

The ONLY reason you disregarded your massive scum read on the hydra is because you arbitrarily decided that I'd untangle the mess of the game. That is quite literally what you said, since without that your words were "the qt means nothing". Now you address the hydra like a town read but me like a scum read when I don't think there's anything in between that you've even scum read me for.

Now, when everyone decides to consolidate onto ff you arbitrarily choose the lowest wagon this time (which isn't even consolidating!) after you have expressed your dislike for joining that wagon over and over again all day (I'm pretty sure that is correct).

You are saying you play with logic but throw all logic out the window.

This is a little logic puzzle for you. What alignment is this player?

One liners, little scum reads. Town this game.

One liners, little scum reads. Town this game.

One liners, little scum reads. What alignment is this?

You've arbitrarily decided this one game Eywa could be mafia despite the fact meta states otherwise for absolutely no reason and choose to ignore anything concrete to the contrary. If someone can do these things as town how do they suddenly become your BIGGEST mafia read in the game for doing the exact same things? It doesn't make a single bit of sense.

You avoid everything, you pick and choose arguments and stick to them until you decide to flit to another argument and then you conveniently end up on wagons to blend when push comes to shove. If you simply stuck with eywa it would have been you, koshi, ff and maybe slam could have switched and you got your lynch. You play so meekly while saying your read is strong.

Your frustration is entirely understandable at this point in time. Especially considering how you missed three in a row now.

Yet you express this frustration at me. Where it is entirely misplaced. I didn't make you lynch chezinu. Neither have I voted for fecalfeast. Just nk me if i'm this much of a bother to you. Or are you actually mad at me for not voring town?

I know what I'll be doing come day 5. And MAYBE some of my fellow town players will be attentive enough to listen. Cause CLEARLY your approach has failed at this point
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
August 01 2019 06:22 GMT
#1871
On August 01 2019 10:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man I don't fucking know, Branch easily looks the worst from the FF lynch but I don't wanna just let koshi off the hook. I'm gonna go ahead and accept the omgus accusations and say eywa is the 3rd scum bc of the FF lynch as well.

I'll post more tomorrow morning, I finally have a night flight so I should be around for some of irl day tomorrow. The martyring and giving up from so many players just makes things so unfun to play.

Explain how I come out looking worse, NOT voting for the townflip please.
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