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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 14 2019 02:27 GMT
#22
/in
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 24 2019 22:47 GMT
#44
Come on BC, you know you want to
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 29 2019 01:14 GMT
#55
ready 2 rock.

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 30 2019 00:07 GMT
#66
On April 30 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi i am just a boring vanilla town.

Me too

I'm glad nobody has claimed scum yet, I would be so down to lynch them if they did.

So all my claimed townies in the thread lets talk strategy, are we gonna go with the thread meta of the past two games and lynch active people who find themselves on the wrong side of a townVtown argument first or should we try to at least pressure the lurkers before D3?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 30 2019 03:36 GMT
#71
On April 30 2019 12:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 30 2019 08:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
No one has anything more interesting to say than just their role?

Like?

Rayn should we lynch bugs for lying and saying I claimed scum?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 30 2019 16:50 GMT
#101
On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision.


Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net.

First game - mafia - failed to spot it
Second game - town - dead first night
Third game... you get the picture.

I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum.

I'm not mafia by the way.

I mean talking about how boring you are does nothing to help find scum and then you complain about the site playstyle? Your martyring is not really a good look 12 hours and 3 pages into a game
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 30 2019 16:53 GMT
#104
On May 01 2019 01:40 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 01 2019 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You realise why you got "shot" last game?
Why dont you just play instead of getting cocky?


hehe I'm a cocky guy I guess so the only option available to me is to play cockily.

This tone is a lot different from your first game. I can't decide if that's an alignment indicator or that you think you know your way around here now.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 01 2019 00:04 GMT
#144
On May 01 2019 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 01 2019 08:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm voting Rels because he avoids early game a lot as mafia.


And also as town.

So do you think Grack has the wrong idea with voting him?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 01 2019 00:20 GMT
#150
On May 01 2019 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
What I got from Jock's mindset in his first mafia game is that he was afraid in the qt whenever someone called him out. He's used that, and the advice people gave him of "don't care what people say if they call you mafia" and gone to the other extreme scale of being bratty when called out. I'd associate that more with being new and mafia than Jock as town being lost on what to say. Especially with the insults to TL as a whole.

I was just rereading Jock in End of the World because he screamed town that game to me but ended up being red. I mean look here:

On March 02 2019 10:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On March 02 2019 10:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Vote me for mayor. I will be the arbiter of truth and justice


I'm sorry but your username would bring the office into disrepute.

Surely you jest. I am a well respected member of the community at large. Discrimination and prejudice based on choice of moniker disreputable in and of itself.

99% of my comments are in jest.
Jesters are important as they remind kings and nobility of their mortality, fallibility and humanity. Kings fart just the same as the rest of us.


This sort of disarming humor type stuff as well as polite questions and well written accusations is how I'd characterize his first game. His second game was similar except with fewer analysis posts. His thread entrance to this game was very jarring and different from both his scum and his town games thus far. The worst part is that it seems like he's trying to bait out the meta read with this comment:
On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision.


Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net.

First game - mafia - failed to spot it
Second game - town - dead first night
Third game... you get the picture.

I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum.

I'm not mafia by the way.

It reads like he knows he's playing different and is daring people to scum read him for it. If he hadn't played so similarly in his first two games despite being different alignments I'd be more willing to read his current stance as combative townie who isn't afraid of the spotlight but after looking at his two previous games and his own self aware jab at meta reads I'm more inclined to think he's scum trying to hide behind bravado.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 01 2019 00:21 GMT
#151
On May 01 2019 09:10 Holyflare wrote:
Mz are you ever gonna take a stance on jock? You seem to be fannying around the subject contemplatively rather than deciding on him.

You posted this while I was writing up my thoughts, I think you and I are picking up on the same things.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 01 2019 00:25 GMT
#152
On May 01 2019 09:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 01 2019 02:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2019 02:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm going to bed and will be back in 7-8 hours. If anyone reads this and wants my opinion later, feel free to ask. Same goes if you're feeling like the game is going slowly; let's discuss what we want to do about it, or at least the minimum we've seen so far. We don't have enough participation yet for D1 to go well IMO, and it's not easy to convince absentees nor is it easy to get scum out talking if town isn't either.

Yeah I've got a question - is your resistance to the Jock lynch intentional or circumstantial? Like, I get that you're suspicious of MZ or whatever, but you say MZ "smells blood in the water", does that imply that you think Jock is town?


I'm 99% sure at this point if I do absolutely nothing to push a different lynch, Jock will continue to get suspicion and probably die. I'm giving him outs and the benefit of the doubt because I'm not confident he's scum. Honestly to me the weirdest thing he's done so far has been his last exit:

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I gotta go to band practice I'll be back in a few hours


Only for him to never come back. It's what, 1 am in the UK? So we can't really expect him to come back and defend himself any time soon.

Anyway, my opinion has always been that having a single wagon on day 1 is rarely good. No need for me to contribute to that if I see something better, anyway.

Completely agree having single wagons D1 is bad. I obviously am currently standing with the Jock suspicions crowd but what other names should we be considering? Me? What do you think of Grack voting Rels, is that another avenue worth exploring?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 01 2019 00:30 GMT
#154
On May 01 2019 09:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Scum has a pretty natural tendency towards appeasement when under pressure. I don't think scum's first reaction to being accused would be to shit on the entire player base of the website and boast about getting night killed in the last game. I feel pretty confident at reading butt-hurt and he reeks of butt-hurt townie to me.

But what is he butthurt about? I've definitely done that before as scum (and had my ass lynched for my troubles). The combative attitude feels forced after reading his other games again.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 01 2019 00:46 GMT
#156
On May 01 2019 09:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 01 2019 09:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 01 2019 09:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 01 2019 02:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 01 2019 02:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm going to bed and will be back in 7-8 hours. If anyone reads this and wants my opinion later, feel free to ask. Same goes if you're feeling like the game is going slowly; let's discuss what we want to do about it, or at least the minimum we've seen so far. We don't have enough participation yet for D1 to go well IMO, and it's not easy to convince absentees nor is it easy to get scum out talking if town isn't either.

Yeah I've got a question - is your resistance to the Jock lynch intentional or circumstantial? Like, I get that you're suspicious of MZ or whatever, but you say MZ "smells blood in the water", does that imply that you think Jock is town?


I'm 99% sure at this point if I do absolutely nothing to push a different lynch, Jock will continue to get suspicion and probably die. I'm giving him outs and the benefit of the doubt because I'm not confident he's scum. Honestly to me the weirdest thing he's done so far has been his last exit:

I gotta go to band practice I'll be back in a few hours


Only for him to never come back. It's what, 1 am in the UK? So we can't really expect him to come back and defend himself any time soon.

Anyway, my opinion has always been that having a single wagon on day 1 is rarely good. No need for me to contribute to that if I see something better, anyway.

Completely agree having single wagons D1 is bad. I obviously am currently standing with the Jock suspicions crowd but what other names should we be considering? Me? What do you think of Grack voting Rels, is that another avenue worth exploring?


What avenue, Grack or Rels?

There are a few players who haven't showed up, and a few who have but have just disappeared under the radar. It'd be nice if we could get them to talk. I'm going to continue being vague with my reads for a bit because I want to see things play out more.

Speaking of non-participants, FecalFeast, mind explaining why you sheeped on MZ, and why you've subsequently been absent from the thread?

Rels, since Grack said he lurks as scum D1. HF says that he lurks as either alignment so it's not a bad idea but bad reasoning. Personally I'm inclined to agree with Grack. What are your thoughts?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 02 2019 16:53 GMT
#529
Don't modkill plz.

I started working in the squadron plans shop Monday and its in a vault so no phones, been really busy. I promise I'll reread the thread and have some thoughts when I get home.

For what its worth I would have definitely voted Jock, nothing I skimmed over just now would have made me change my mind.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 02 2019 22:54 GMT
#653
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 02 2019 22:58 GMT
#660
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 02 2019 23:00 GMT
#662
On May 03 2019 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I AGREE WITH MZ AND HOLYFLARE.

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE ELSE MENTION THIS EARLIER.

I mean the one advantage of being inactive as shit is it allows me to read everything at once so I have a clearer memory of what happened rather than having to wait a few hours in between substantial posts.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 02 2019 23:02 GMT
#663
On May 03 2019 07:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Not really so much though. I think it's null.

I think it will be worth taking a look at if Bugs flips red. Again I was agreeing more with HF than anything else when I was catching up so I'm fairly confident in that flip. I think the miller argument is an incredibly flimsy defense at this point and with the GF dead it makes literally zero sense for scum HF to do a 1-1 trade.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 00:37 GMT
#694
On May 03 2019 08:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


from my standpoint and the knowledge I have this is a post that manages to say absolutely nothing.

"I was liking what HF posted" -> cool, if you're scum you already have the knowledge that HF is town

"VE is almost always town" why? slides into hypothetical about VE if I flip scum -> knows that this will never happen so it's a completely empty thing to say

MZ is setting up a lynch on Pandain after I flip here with this post.

Back when VE started playing, I pushed for his mislynch a lot for behavior that he's displaying right now, after I played with him more I realized that's just how he plays town. So I have a town read on him. I hated Pandain's post flip stuff as we've already been over, however we were in the middle of discussing you vs HF when VE popped in with the posts about Pandain. I even agree with VE on the content there, however if you flip scum (which I'm fairly sure you will) it looks like VE made an out of character chainsaw defense of you before HF claimed.

However its your last little line which caught my attention, what do you mean by setting up a lynch? First off I have zero thread pull so suggesting I'm going to get someone lynched is hysterical. Secondly, you have talked about Pandain probably more than any other player in this game, you've gone from town reading him, to calling him scum, to calling him town, to listing him in your "possibles" category and with your last post you seem completely confused with him. All that is to say, why do you have an issue with me reading Pandain as scummy when you have literally done that twice or three times yourself?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 00:40 GMT
#697
On May 03 2019 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm thinking Pandain/Vivax/killsomelurkers currently. It's hard for me to give a shit about finding "the last" mafia when we've got 2 lynches in the works and everything could change. Pandain my main suspicion, I'm trusting people on Vivax and given my druthers I'd remove MZ and FF before starting in on lurkers.

I changed my mind on you VE, there's now no universe in which I think you're chainsawing Bugs. I also am more certain you're right about Pandain as well.

Who are you liking for scumlurkers (aside from me since I've seen you throw my name around a few times).
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 00:47 GMT
#703
On May 03 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
All the one-liners and non-paragraph posts?

I get a lot of flak from the old-timers for that shit, you don't wanna be one of those guys MZ.

On May 01 2019 01:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm DEATH-ACCURATELY-EAGLE-EYE-WATCHING Grackaroni, per his own request.


On May 02 2019 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH FUCK I FAILED WBG'S "READ OP" TEST

le sigh

WBG you expected me to fail, don't lie.


On May 03 2019 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On May 03 2019 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Thanks for being my rock VE.

I'd still fear-lynch the shit out of you frand. No hard feelings.

Back in the day this stuff drove me up the wall lol, I've chilled out a lot in the last 5 or 6 years lol.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 00:54 GMT
#707
On May 03 2019 09:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 09:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 08:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


from my standpoint and the knowledge I have this is a post that manages to say absolutely nothing.

"I was liking what HF posted" -> cool, if you're scum you already have the knowledge that HF is town

"VE is almost always town" why? slides into hypothetical about VE if I flip scum -> knows that this will never happen so it's a completely empty thing to say

MZ is setting up a lynch on Pandain after I flip here with this post.

Back when VE started playing, I pushed for his mislynch a lot for behavior that he's displaying right now, after I played with him more I realized that's just how he plays town. So I have a town read on him. I hated Pandain's post flip stuff as we've already been over, however we were in the middle of discussing you vs HF when VE popped in with the posts about Pandain. I even agree with VE on the content there, however if you flip scum (which I'm fairly sure you will) it looks like VE made an out of character chainsaw defense of you before HF claimed.

However its your last little line which caught my attention, what do you mean by setting up a lynch? First off I have zero thread pull so suggesting I'm going to get someone lynched is hysterical. Secondly, you have talked about Pandain probably more than any other player in this game, you've gone from town reading him, to calling him scum, to calling him town, to listing him in your "possibles" category and with your last post you seem completely confused with him. All that is to say, why do you have an issue with me reading Pandain as scummy when you have literally done that twice or three times yourself?


blah blah blah first paragraph is lots of nothing about VE and me flipping scum, it won't happen.

If you're scum, I'm getting the impression that you're setting up two things here. One obviously won't happen because if you're scum you already know I'm town. The natural progression is for the thing that you're not highlighting right now to be the thing you set up when I flip -> lynch Pandain

I don't personally see Pandain as scummy and I find this characterization by you really strange because if you are town you can just read my posts and take them at literal face value, it's not like I'm trying to hide anything. Even in the post where I list him in "possibles" I say:

Show nested quote +

I'd personally put Pandain in "probably not" but whatever, I've been wrong before.


The only thing you've done of note all game is sheep people, particularly HF and now seemingly you're setting everything up to sheep VE.

Bugs this waffling on Pandain is not working for me. You have called him scum and backed off several times now. I'm all for people "evolving" their views but for you to say wanting Pandain dead makes me scum is flat out ignoring your own (very recent) reads. If you want to accuse me of sheeping go right ahead, I wasn't around at the day flip so I didn't have the chance to be the first person to talk about how trash Pandain's posts were. You talk about some "setup" as if you also weren't reading Pandain as red yesterday. You can talk all you want about transparency of reads and that stuff but at some point it just starts to look like you're trying to figure out what the "right" read is to have on Pandain bc holy smokes do you talk about him a lot in your filter.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 00:55 GMT
#709
On May 03 2019 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's actually why I ended up playing video mafia as long as I did, that style meshes better with my style of playing the game - my posts are short and conversational. If I walk up to you on a street I'm not going to hand you a letter, I'm going to say "what's up". This game is meant to emulate that dynamic, medium notwithstanding.

Anyway, rant over. I will never stop shit-posting, so long as I'm protected by the sub-forum by-laws that allow me to do so in the name of playing the game.

<3 love you long time.
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May 03 2019 01:33 GMT
#715
On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why.

I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF.

Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.

ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town?

I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 01:50 GMT
#718
On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why.

I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF.

Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.

ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town?

I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from.


just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain.

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore.

On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.

Jock
Rels
FF

Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.

If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.


In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town

Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral

Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town.



On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.

Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we.

I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town.

Koshi is null:
On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory

But I would love to get a follow on with that.

Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum:
On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum

This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled...
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 02:12 GMT
#721
On May 03 2019 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.

I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.

However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs.


do you have any real opinions?

Do you?

I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible.
I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy.

VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red.

I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know.


Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why.

I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF.

Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.

ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town?

I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from.


just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain.

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore.

On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.

Jock
Rels
FF

Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.

If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.


In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town

Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral

Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town.



On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.

Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.

Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.


Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.

I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.

Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we.

I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town.

Koshi is null:
On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory

But I would love to get a follow on with that.

Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum:
On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum

This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled...


okay, so just to clarify:

1. you're assuming I am scum
2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum
3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC?
4. Koshi is null/unreadable.
5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax.

Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC.

Jesus you are dense
You have a red check backing up good analysis done by HF, of course I think you're scum
Yes
I have no idea how you got townish on BC, if anything I'd say scummish. The only reason you don't think I have a stance on BC is bc you're being obtuse. I think he made two very opportunistic posts and aside from that has done fuck all. Rels is probably scum before BC because of his TMI post but if by some godawful stroke of luck you are a miller and Pandain is also town then BC would be next up of most likely suspects in my eyes.
Yes
Yes
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 02:15 GMT
#722
On May 03 2019 11:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
also why did you ignore FF?

Probably town:
On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear


let's play, FF.

Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise.

Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked

I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself

That's a good call right there and I agree with it.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 16:02 GMT
#778
On May 04 2019 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
That's not true. I made a case on Jock and got him lynched. I made a case on Pandain and he'll realistically get lynched. He's done nothing today.

What happened to the red check on bugs?
What happened to your case on bugs?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 17:06 GMT
#800
HF you really need to explain your whole bugs thing.

Also Pandain's absence is really annoying
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 17:11 GMT
#804
VE what do you think of BC and Rels?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 18:30 GMT
#814
Ok two hours to go.

I want to do shenanigans. HF not around to defend or explain his actions is making me not like the bugs lynch more and more.

Like I said early game, I'd rather not just lynch through the most active voices who find themselves on the wrong thread sentiment.

I would like to go after Rels for the tmi post and complete afk. After the death of the gf I'd imagine scum morale is pretty low and if townies are pointing fingers at townies their best strategy is to lurk.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 03 2019 18:37 GMT
#816
On May 04 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Lynch is in 25.5 hrs. I appreciate the enthusiasm though MZ.

Oh... sorry I guess I'm a little trigger happy after missing last vote.

I was reading the thread and wondering why the day mostly felt like Bugs, HF, you, and I all talking to each other.

I actually think I stand by a Rels lynch though.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 19:23 GMT
#827
On May 04 2019 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm not voting Rels. If you want to get down on a lurker lynch, I suggest Pandain as A) he's lurking B) he has content by which to judge him and C) there's a preestablished interest in removing him from town.

The only person AGAINST his lynch vocally is the other wagon.

That you're poopooing his lynch makes you WAY more suspicious to me.

I wouldn't really say Pandain lurking in the same way Rels is. Rels seems to have given up which is what I'd expect whereas Pandain was still trying when he was here. I think your case against Pandain is good, I've said that a bunch of times, but I think you're tunneled on him at this point and not considering other options.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 19:26 GMT
#828
VE I think the thread is not sold on bugs anymore bc HF has waffled so hard. Your tunnel on Pandain might be clouding your judgement a bit.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 19:48 GMT
#835
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.

Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.

Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.

HOWEVER

In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game.


First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh.

Lmao what is this shit HF?
What happened to the bugs stuff?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
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May 03 2019 19:57 GMT
#837
On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.

Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.

Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.

HOWEVER

In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game.


First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh.


Did you not get this bit?

What do you make of that VE?
Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 03 2019 21:00 GMT
#841
Ok BC

I can agree with a fair bit of that, but I want to know why you've got Grack listed as a red.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 04 2019 00:00 GMT
#892
On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.

Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.

Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.

HOWEVER

In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game.


First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh.


Did you not get this bit?

What do you make of that VE?
Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly?


What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up.

Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies?

I think you're just bouncing around to whatever wagon is the most convenient. Tell me why I shouldn't think that.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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United States6786 Posts
May 04 2019 16:32 GMT
#1120
I'll vote HF.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 05 2019 16:04 GMT
#1374
So VE and Bugs, after you kill me tomorrow then where are you gonna go?

Let's play the same game you did yesterday bugs, as a thought experiment pretend I'm gonna flip town. You still have to find more scum. Are you gonna go back to Pandain VE? Does Pandain have a valid point about Koshi?

Personally I was fairly sure Rels was gonna pop scum so that flip surprised me. I had initially given fecal feast a slight townread yesterday but seeing how he was willing to vote just about anyone has me on the fence. I haven't been through his filter in a minute but I don't recall him really giving a single read.

BC's absence continues to frustrate me although I recognize that's pretty rich coming from myself with the spotty activity I've had.

With Rels dead, I will probably be voting Pandain tomorrow although I'm gonna have to reread Koshi and BC. VE is my strongest townread, I've got Grack as slight town still and I'm null on Bugs. I feel like HF had some good points on bugs early in the last day cycle but watching him collapse has made me doubt them. Even though HF flipped town he just seemed like he didn't give a shit at the end.

Honestly worst comes to worst I'd feel comfortable lynching through Rayn's scum list.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 05 2019 21:08 GMT
#1441
On May 06 2019 05:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Heh that guy just called MZ a newb.

So like, everyone good with MZ>Slam or...

Lol that legitimately hurt me

I really can't promise great activity and we've got a ton of mislynches to burn so I'm fine taking the L today. Let's talk about tomorrow. I'm not sold on slam as scum but I'll try and read him today. If we're going on the assumption scum was super inactive this game then FF is also a possibility.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 05 2019 21:17 GMT
#1447
On May 06 2019 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 06:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 06 2019 05:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Heh that guy just called MZ a newb.

So like, everyone good with MZ>Slam or...

Lol that legitimately hurt me

I really can't promise great activity and we've got a ton of mislynches to burn so I'm fine taking the L today. Let's talk about tomorrow. I'm not sold on slam as scum but I'll try and read him today. If we're going on the assumption scum was super inactive this game then FF is also a possibility.

Ya give everyone a read - if you're good with taking the flip today then everything you post will be useful afterward. I'm not sure how closely you're following, but in the spirit of saving time, me and Bugs are basically clear and we have the largest, most daunting filters. If you left us out of your thoughts, I wouldn't be offended.

Yeah like I said earlier you're my strongest townread, I'll give you a skim but I'm gonna focus on unknowns.

Lowkey glad BC got shot bc I was not getting town vibes from him but he must have died for a reason so I guess I'll start there.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 06 2019 02:55 GMT
#1513
On May 06 2019 08:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Meh I’m like 90% sure bugs is the last scum from the way he is interacting with me.

K I'd lynch based off this post alone bc holy shit somebody clearly hasn't been reading the game.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 06 2019 23:24 GMT
#1600
I have been in a vault since 0600 central time VE I'm sorry, I just got home.

I still can't shake the feeling Grack is town which according to the town circle means I need to decide between slam and FF. I will focus there, for the record I still haven't been over BC so I'm gonna start with that first.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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United States6786 Posts
May 06 2019 23:30 GMT
#1601
Hmm so BC has a very short filter. Pandain I seem to recall you saying that it doesn't make you or Grack look very good and you're certainly right about that. I am however going to pour myself a huge glass of WIFOM and say if you were scum you'd have shot VE just bc I think you'd be comfortable having the fight saying the shot was to frame you.

That leaves us with Grack who I just said I still had a slight town read on. I suppose I can check him next.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 06 2019 23:39 GMT
#1603
On May 06 2019 03:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi really has no investment in this game whatsoever at this point and he's usually an easy town read. I don't know if I've ever seen Koshi do this little in a game as town and he's doing it in a game where Vivax got modkilled night 1 as the mafia Godfather AND likely-town-WBG/HF/Rayn spent most of the game screaming at each other in thread.

I think Koshi may be the best bet for mafia at this point.

I don't think scum makes this post.

Grack's all over the place with his lynch choices and his bugs push seems out of place but I think I'm gonna confirm my townlean.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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United States6786 Posts
May 06 2019 23:42 GMT
#1604
On May 07 2019 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2019 11:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 06 2019 08:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Meh I’m like 90% sure bugs is the last scum from the way he is interacting with me.

K I'd lynch based off this post alone bc holy shit somebody clearly hasn't been reading the game.

Are you townreading grack despite your most recent post calling him a good lynch or was this for drama

I hadn't checked his filter in a while, I think his bugs push is dumb as shit but I missed his post about lynching Koshi before.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 06 2019 23:46 GMT
#1607
On May 06 2019 06:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
even though it's been nothing much yet I kinda want to switch to grack already based on mz's cooperation



idk what i want to do anymore



On May 06 2019 16:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm here idk I think i'm still ok with MZ but am wanting a slam lynch more and more

Presented without comment.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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United States6786 Posts
May 06 2019 23:48 GMT
#1609
On May 07 2019 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Look man I've been in a lot of lategame scenarios being a shitter who never gets nked and while I do like that you're here and analysing the game this all feels like the 'slow roll into calling FF mafia for being a shitter' which often comes from scum as far as i remember anyway

Haha holy shit did the inner guilt get to you?

Playing scum sucks, sorry your team kinda gave this one up.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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United States6786 Posts
May 06 2019 23:50 GMT
#1610
On May 07 2019 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
In those 10 hours how many posts did you make

None but you know I'll flip town so you're just making sure you properly hedge your bets and being able to say "ah I knew we shouldn't have done that"
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May 06 2019 23:54 GMT
#1611
Host wifom says slam is probably town but I'll give him a quick read anyway
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 06 2019 23:59 GMT
#1615
Honestly I can't read slam to save my life but I'm much more confident on FF anyway.

Also this eas funny as shit:

On May 06 2019 21:25 Pandain wrote:
I have to say though it would be really entertaining watching an endgame scenario of Slam, MZ, and FF debating each other on who is the mafia.

would there even be posts?

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May 07 2019 00:03 GMT
#1618
On May 07 2019 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Lol i hope ppl shenanigans onto me so whem i flip town you die immediately

I mean if you're somehow not scum at this point you're right, I'm absolutely going to die next lynch. Most people seem willing to give me one reprieve and if I'm wrong I die, no questions asked. If its not you I will be happy to die bc I have no fucking clue who it would be unless Pandain is having another godmode scum game.
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May 07 2019 00:04 GMT
#1620
On May 07 2019 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote:
On May 07 2019 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 06 2019 06:32 Pandain wrote:
Was just about to post this. Definitely a plus for MZ and a negative for Grack.

However, I want to point out that it's entirely possible they just shot him because he's a good player who was town. I actually think there's almost no chance mafia shot you because medic would protect you, so the question is who else would they shoot? Realistically only bugs and BC.

They were clearly still aiming to put suspicion on wherebugsgo (as we see from Koshi's post)
On May 06 2019 01:30 Koshi wrote:
Both hf and rayn pointed heavily at wbg. Probably not a bad bet for mafia.


On May 03 2019 21:12 Koshi wrote:
On May 03 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i think vivax + bugs + pandain is a reasonable option for mafia.
Murder Vivax please if he is not dead come D2.

I read rayn filter and I will just be rayn 3.0.

This is because Koshi = rayn 2.0 and now I absorbed rayn 1.0.


They weren't ever going to shoot me since there was still some suspicion on me, and everyone else as well.

So the best shot, even ignoring anything BC said and even if he was wrong on everything was still probably BC.

There you go VE

Useless shit speculation about why scum made such a dumbass shot


I don't think speculating on why someone got shot is ever the wrong thing to do after the night ends. In fact it's the most reasonable and pertinent thing to do.

Can you please give your thoughts on grack and FF? And are you just sheeping VE on MZ or do you actually have your own reasons?

I am sheeting.

However, if one of FF or Grack are scum, it is Grack. 100% I do not lynch FF this game.

Ok I just read both of their filters and I came to the exact opposite conclusion
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 07 2019 00:13 GMT
#1629
On May 07 2019 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 08:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 06 2019 03:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi really has no investment in this game whatsoever at this point and he's usually an easy town read. I don't know if I've ever seen Koshi do this little in a game as town and he's doing it in a game where Vivax got modkilled night 1 as the mafia Godfather AND likely-town-WBG/HF/Rayn spent most of the game screaming at each other in thread.

I think Koshi may be the best bet for mafia at this point.

I don't think scum makes this post.

Grack's all over the place with his lynch choices and his bugs push seems out of place but I think I'm gonna confirm my townlean.

Although I am going to point out that the bus is the thing that exists might text you to drive me crazy

On a 4 or 5 man scum team sure, bus the shit out of an afk one, but I don't see grack as the kinda person to bus his roleblocker when the scum team is already down a Godfather.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 07 2019 00:15 GMT
#1631
On May 07 2019 09:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 09:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 07 2019 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 07 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote:
On May 07 2019 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 06 2019 06:32 Pandain wrote:
Was just about to post this. Definitely a plus for MZ and a negative for Grack.

However, I want to point out that it's entirely possible they just shot him because he's a good player who was town. I actually think there's almost no chance mafia shot you because medic would protect you, so the question is who else would they shoot? Realistically only bugs and BC.

They were clearly still aiming to put suspicion on wherebugsgo (as we see from Koshi's post)
On May 06 2019 01:30 Koshi wrote:
Both hf and rayn pointed heavily at wbg. Probably not a bad bet for mafia.


On May 03 2019 21:12 Koshi wrote:
On May 03 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i think vivax + bugs + pandain is a reasonable option for mafia.
Murder Vivax please if he is not dead come D2.

I read rayn filter and I will just be rayn 3.0.

This is because Koshi = rayn 2.0 and now I absorbed rayn 1.0.


They weren't ever going to shoot me since there was still some suspicion on me, and everyone else as well.

So the best shot, even ignoring anything BC said and even if he was wrong on everything was still probably BC.

There you go VE

Useless shit speculation about why scum made such a dumbass shot


I don't think speculating on why someone got shot is ever the wrong thing to do after the night ends. In fact it's the most reasonable and pertinent thing to do.

Can you please give your thoughts on grack and FF? And are you just sheeping VE on MZ or do you actually have your own reasons?

I am sheeting.

However, if one of FF or Grack are scum, it is Grack. 100% I do not lynch FF this game.

Ok I just read both of their filters and I came to the exact opposite conclusion

Exactly dude because we are all town.

Vote Pandain!!!

You gotta give me more to work with than that man. Why? Why is FF town to you?
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Meapak_Ziphh
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United States6786 Posts
May 07 2019 02:48 GMT
#1672
Nah I don't think Pandain is more likely to be scum than FF. Not at all and especially not after the little back and forth I had with FF earlier.
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May 07 2019 02:49 GMT
#1674
On May 07 2019 11:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 11:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
so then it's just slam?

It's Slam or MZ to me. With a side of Grack. If I'm in F3 then I don't know who I'd lynch.

Why are you so sure FF is town?
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 07 2019 13:53 GMT
#1836
On May 07 2019 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's your current off-the-top 3 lynch order VE? Or is that lso information you recently stated that I could og find?

Ya I've stated it, currently I'm somewhere around

MZ>Grack>Slam
MZ>Slam>Grack

This is wrong and if you follow it you're going to lose.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
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May 07 2019 14:06 GMT
#1839
On May 07 2019 22:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 22:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 07 2019 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 07 2019 15:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's your current off-the-top 3 lynch order VE? Or is that lso information you recently stated that I could og find?

Ya I've stated it, currently I'm somewhere around

MZ>Grack>Slam
MZ>Slam>Grack

This is wrong and if you follow it you're going to lose.

Keep reading bby

Ah now I see. Well its comforting to see someone agreeing with me although I wish it wasn't Pandain lmao.

Here's your order VE FF>MZ>Pandain

Again if by some miracle I don't get lynched today and FF is town. I want to die tomorrow bc I'll never survive final 3, everyone but maybe Pandain scum reads me. I will need to die so we can pack as many relatively townread people into the final 3 as possible so we don't end up with me/grack/slam lmao.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 07 2019 14:17 GMT
#1844
On May 07 2019 23:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or like FF>MZ>Grack

Something. Your request is that you die to the very next lynch if FF town, right?

Yeah I'd prefer it.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 07 2019 21:15 GMT
#1926
Aight so me then Pandain?

Its gotta be Pandain imo. I still don't see it as Grack or Slam. Either way one of them is gonna be in the last 3 so that'll be interesting.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 08 2019 13:48 GMT
#2053
Y'all

Pandain is trying to drag me into the final 3 with him.

I am the most universally scumread player and who has spearheaded the pushes onto other players both days?

I need to die and I need to die today, because if you keep me alive and you guys lynch slam or grack today then I've been settup as the perfect 2v1 mislynch.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 08 2019 13:55 GMT
#2057
On May 08 2019 22:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2019 22:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Y'all

Pandain is trying to drag me into the final 3 with him.

I am the most universally scumread player and who has spearheaded the pushes onto other players both days?

I need to die and I need to die today, because if you keep me alive and you guys lynch slam or grack today then I've been settup as the perfect 2v1 mislynch.

I tried tellin 'em.

I mean unless you all decide you've been wrong all game and everyone suddenly townreads me, I will be the easiest lylo mislynch of all time.

Why are you unwilling to go for Pandain VE? Why does it have to be Grack or Slam?
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 08 2019 14:03 GMT
#2065
On May 08 2019 22:57 Pandain wrote:
Like come on MZ if you're town don't do this shit. You have two extremely active people who both think you're town and you're still begging to be lynched

Yes because I don't think you're town. I think you're scum looking to drag the easiest mislynch with you to LYLO.

VE is gonna die tonight

You
Slam
Grack
Me
Bugs

If we lynch Slam/Grack

I assume bugs dies next night

You
Me
Slam/Grack.

They vote to lynch me every time.


If we lynch me then it looks like:

You
Grack
Slam

And people will actually have to try and scumhunt/read the thread at lylo.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 08 2019 15:39 GMT
#2107
I think Grack and Slam are both town.

VE is town. I am town.

Bugs vs Pandain; I've got Pandain as scum.

MZ>Pandain and we win.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 08 2019 16:36 GMT
#2116
On May 09 2019 01:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
K, me & VE & slam town

Someone pulls the short straw and has to decide between grack and Pandain at 2v1.

At 2v1 I think flipping a coin is still the best bet

Lynch Pandain and you win
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 08 2019 18:56 GMT
#2125
On May 09 2019 03:45 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nah I think you are town Pandain but just paranoia at this point

Like I will be really shocked if MZ doesn’t flip scum here

Lmao get ready to be shocked.

So please lynch Pandain after me.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
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May 09 2019 00:34 GMT
#2146
Notice how Pandain is now ready to vote me again when I refused to be buddied by him during the night phase.

He realized if he brings me to lylo I would go all in to get him lynched.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 09 2019 13:40 GMT
#2163
On May 09 2019 22:02 Pandain wrote:
This is definitely going to be the most boring day. If MZ is town it's going to get crazy interesting though

I am town. You die next.

I'm not going to even bother trying a defense because when I flip town people will vote you and then we win.

You're not getting another Insane mafia last man standing win lol.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 09 2019 13:41 GMT
#2164
I've made it very clear I want to die today so Pandain can be killed tomorrow. I'd be fine shortening the day cycle so we can expedite that.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 09 2019 15:40 GMT
#2174
On May 10 2019 00:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Meapak you never answered anyone, why is Pandain scum? You made the most token effort in filtering FF and calling him scum, and posting a couple quotes “posted without context” and that already seemed bad to me. Now you want to shorten the day instead of convincing us that Pandain is scum. Did you see my earlier post about ignoring townies who do that kind of thing? Why do you want to be ignored if you are town?

Because its way easier for me to flip town rather than fight 3 day cycles of thread sentiment and I frankly don't have the time to put in the activity you guys would require to change your minds.

And if its not Pandain (and for arguments sake lets say its not me) then who do you have? None of you have been able to make convincing arguments for Grack or Slam. You and VE spent all last night cycle trying to pick between the two and y'all came to zero conclusions. The obvious and simplest explanation is that they're both town. I think you're town (and if you're not you really had a great scum game) I've been calling for Pandain's death since like D1 but don't let me convince you, let me flip do the talking.
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Meapak_Ziphh
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May 09 2019 15:55 GMT
#2177
On May 10 2019 00:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 00:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 10 2019 00:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Meapak you never answered anyone, why is Pandain scum? You made the most token effort in filtering FF and calling him scum, and posting a couple quotes “posted without context” and that already seemed bad to me. Now you want to shorten the day instead of convincing us that Pandain is scum. Did you see my earlier post about ignoring townies who do that kind of thing? Why do you want to be ignored if you are town?

Because its way easier for me to flip town rather than fight 3 day cycles of thread sentiment and I frankly don't have the time to put in the activity you guys would require to change your minds.

And if its not Pandain (and for arguments sake lets say its not me) then who do you have? None of you have been able to make convincing arguments for Grack or Slam. You and VE spent all last night cycle trying to pick between the two and y'all came to zero conclusions. The obvious and simplest explanation is that they're both town. I think you're town (and if you're not you really had a great scum game) I've been calling for Pandain's death since like D1 but don't let me convince you, let me flip do the talking.


Sorry, I think you’re not reading nor understanding.

I’m literally telling you that if you flip town at this very moment I’m going to ignore everything you’ve written here and tell everyone to lynch grack.

You don’t have time to put in activity, fine, that’s clearly not what I’m asking for. In fact, you’re still alive despite your activity, and I for one don’t care how active you are (I even admonished HF for calling you a lurker because I didn’t think that label was correct). Just explain to the best of your ability 1. why Pandain is scum in this game and 2. What evidence you have from past games that Pandain is capable of playing like this as scum.

Go read Insane Mafia

Pandain was literally the last man standing as scum.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 09 2019 16:13 GMT
#2181
Sigh

Pandain I just read your whole filter. I don't understand how you called both vivax and koshi conveniently before their deaths, gave yourself townpoints for vivax's death, called the BC night kill, flipped on FF from town to scum essentially saving me yesterday by spearheading that lynch, tried to pull the lynch off my last night cycle, and have already prepped the move on Grack for when its you, slam, and grack. Like all this shit is just unbelievably convenient and your play since Koshi got shot has been exactly what I'd expect from scum.

If you truly believe Grack is the last scum would you trade yourself today in order to get him killed tomorrow? You have repeatedly said you think I'm town, would you die today for slam and I to lynch grack tomorrow?

Both you and bugs have grack pinned as the last scum, I guess I'll reread him next.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
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May 09 2019 16:15 GMT
#2182
On May 10 2019 01:02 Pandain wrote:
There's bussing and then there's bussing your entire team both of which have vital roles

You pushed when neither were in any real danger of dying.

But if I recall one of the main reasons I cleared Grack was because he did something similar with Koshi.

Brb I gotta read Grack.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 09 2019 16:32 GMT
#2183
On May 02 2019 01:49 Grackaroni wrote:
My strong towns at the moment are BC and Koshi.

Other than that I'm basically stabbing in the dark.


On May 02 2019 05:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Meh if Vivax is actually mafia we can get him tomorrow.

If he's town then he should be able to show it.



On May 06 2019 06:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I wouldn’t kill BC as scum. I like to kill active town players that I don’t think can be lynched.



On May 06 2019 09:06 Grackaroni wrote:
It's kinda shit for me but w/e.

If town loses the game I'm not taking the blame because BC suspected me and got shot.



On May 07 2019 12:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok realistically I think there are only a few people that would ever night kill BC. Me/WBG/MZ

Me because he was scum reading me earlier and WBG/MZ because they are old-timey players with a lot of respect for BC's play.

I don't see Slam or FF making that NK choice.



On May 07 2019 12:25 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think BC's play in this game was worth being night killed without any prior expectation from him.


Idk man those first two reads posts do look bad and then all that time spent WIFOMing the NK do look bad. Bugs is also his only real scum read at this point which I find very odd.

Bugs and Pandain why do YOU guys think he's scum?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 09 2019 16:44 GMT
#2184
Don't you go running away the second I start to doubt myself Pandain and Bugs

Pandain, would you die to get Grack lynched?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 09 2019 21:51 GMT
#2197
Pandain play a thought game with me so i feel like I've covered my bases: what happens if scum shoots you tonight instead of Bugs. Does that change who you view as scum at all?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 09 2019 23:04 GMT
#2199
Bugs is gonna be in for the surprise of his life lmao
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 10 2019 00:06 GMT
#2203
Ahh bugs it's gonna be fun to watch you be wrong.

Pandain I would still like an answer about what happens if you die instead of bugs. What advice would you give slam and grack?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 10 2019 02:32 GMT
#2206
Bugs lets getcha on record, you're assuming you're gonna die tonight but if you're alive you're gonna vote to lynch grack right?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 10 2019 02:36 GMT
#2207
And slam let's get you in here too. No way you get shot tonight but you're gonna vote grack right? Or were you also feeling Pandain.

What happens if Pandain dies instead of bugs? I'm trying to entertain all possibilities here, Pandain's activity gave me a pause as to my certainty of him being the final scum so now I just want everyone talking.

Rather than shorten this day lets get everyone on record with what they'd do in each of the final 3 scenarios.

The stage is set so the only thing scum knows that town doesn't is who the NK will be.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 10 2019 02:44 GMT
#2209
On May 10 2019 11:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 11:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Bugs lets getcha on record, you're assuming you're gonna die tonight but if you're alive you're gonna vote to lynch grack right?


Why would I answer any of your questions if you haven’t answered a single one of mine?

Because I'm going to flip dead town in 17 hours and your little obstinate streak is gonna look a lot worse when grack is making his case to kill you in another 24 hours after that.

Besides if you're town why wouldn't a little transparency hurt? If the game is gonna end when I die nothing you say now will matter right?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 10 2019 04:31 GMT
#2211
On May 10 2019 11:48 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 11:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And slam let's get you in here too. No way you get shot tonight but you're gonna vote grack right? Or were you also feeling Pandain.

What happens if Pandain dies instead of bugs? I'm trying to entertain all possibilities here, Pandain's activity gave me a pause as to my certainty of him being the final scum so now I just want everyone talking.

Rather than shorten this day lets get everyone on record with what they'd do in each of the final 3 scenarios.

The stage is set so the only thing scum knows that town doesn't is who the NK will be.

Bugs MZ me
Vote MZ

Grack MZ me
Vote Grack

Pandain MZ me
Vote Pandain

Pandain Grack me
Read both filters, lament life, expect to get lynched, try to place vote properly

Pandain WBG me
Vote Pandain

Now that is exactly the kind of post that makes me feel good inside. Well done slam.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 10 2019 17:38 GMT
#2218
That's unfortunate because I think you could gain a lot by getting everyone on record with their reads and then use the night kill to watch how people's reads change.

At this point I'm most confident Slam is town. I would have honestly loved to be final 3 with Slam/anyone because I think whoever would be left aside from myself or slam would be scum by POE.

I still gotta go with Pandain being scum as my primary read, I wish he had been around a bit more last night but neither him nor Bugs sold me on Grack.

This will probably be my last post so good luck town, you're gonna fucking need it. The townies should prepare themselves for a situation where the person they're not expecting gets NK'd.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 10 2019 21:33 GMT
#2298
Wow Pandain I do owe you a huge apology, honestly your insistence that I was town was really scaring me haha. I wish you had been around more yesterday evening bc you almost had me sold on grack.

Well played everyone... I told you I was gonna blow your mind Bugs lol
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 11 2019 05:07 GMT
#2317
VE you really owned this game man, well done.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 11 2019 16:38 GMT
#2321
On May 11 2019 15:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2019 14:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
VE you really owned this game man, well done.

<3

It sucks you couldn't put in the activity most of town required. I tried not to get too hard on ur ass, but at the end I was just tilted. I'm glad you guys were able to pull it out.

This is just my new meta I guess. I still love mafia but I just don't have the time I did when I was a teenager lol.

Fortunately Pandain played the last 3 games with me and had a pretty good read on me.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
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