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On April 30 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi i am just a boring vanilla town. Me too I'm glad nobody has claimed scum yet, I would be so down to lynch them if they did. So all my claimed townies in the thread lets talk strategy, are we gonna go with the thread meta of the past two games and lynch active people who find themselves on the wrong side of a townVtown argument first or should we try to at least pressure the lurkers before D3? | ||
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Rayn should we lynch bugs for lying and saying I claimed scum? | ||
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On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net. First game - mafia - failed to spot it Second game - town - dead first night Third game... you get the picture. I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum. I'm not mafia by the way. I mean talking about how boring you are does nothing to help find scum and then you complain about the site playstyle? Your martyring is not really a good look 12 hours and 3 pages into a game | ||
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On May 01 2019 01:40 Jockmcplop wrote: hehe I'm a cocky guy I guess so the only option available to me is to play cockily. This tone is a lot different from your first game. I can't decide if that's an alignment indicator or that you think you know your way around here now. | ||
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So do you think Grack has the wrong idea with voting him? | ||
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On May 01 2019 09:06 Holyflare wrote: What I got from Jock's mindset in his first mafia game is that he was afraid in the qt whenever someone called him out. He's used that, and the advice people gave him of "don't care what people say if they call you mafia" and gone to the other extreme scale of being bratty when called out. I'd associate that more with being new and mafia than Jock as town being lost on what to say. Especially with the insults to TL as a whole. I was just rereading Jock in End of the World because he screamed town that game to me but ended up being red. I mean look here: On March 02 2019 10:16 Jockmcplop wrote: 99% of my comments are in jest. Jesters are important as they remind kings and nobility of their mortality, fallibility and humanity. Kings fart just the same as the rest of us. This sort of disarming humor type stuff as well as polite questions and well written accusations is how I'd characterize his first game. His second game was similar except with fewer analysis posts. His thread entrance to this game was very jarring and different from both his scum and his town games thus far. The worst part is that it seems like he's trying to bait out the meta read with this comment: On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net. First game - mafia - failed to spot it Second game - town - dead first night Third game... you get the picture. I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum. I'm not mafia by the way. It reads like he knows he's playing different and is daring people to scum read him for it. If he hadn't played so similarly in his first two games despite being different alignments I'd be more willing to read his current stance as combative townie who isn't afraid of the spotlight but after looking at his two previous games and his own self aware jab at meta reads I'm more inclined to think he's scum trying to hide behind bravado. | ||
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On May 01 2019 09:10 Holyflare wrote: Mz are you ever gonna take a stance on jock? You seem to be fannying around the subject contemplatively rather than deciding on him. You posted this while I was writing up my thoughts, I think you and I are picking up on the same things. | ||
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On May 01 2019 09:17 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm 99% sure at this point if I do absolutely nothing to push a different lynch, Jock will continue to get suspicion and probably die. I'm giving him outs and the benefit of the doubt because I'm not confident he's scum. Honestly to me the weirdest thing he's done so far has been his last exit: Only for him to never come back. It's what, 1 am in the UK? So we can't really expect him to come back and defend himself any time soon. Anyway, my opinion has always been that having a single wagon on day 1 is rarely good. No need for me to contribute to that if I see something better, anyway. Completely agree having single wagons D1 is bad. I obviously am currently standing with the Jock suspicions crowd but what other names should we be considering? Me? What do you think of Grack voting Rels, is that another avenue worth exploring? | ||
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On May 01 2019 09:25 Grackaroni wrote: Scum has a pretty natural tendency towards appeasement when under pressure. I don't think scum's first reaction to being accused would be to shit on the entire player base of the website and boast about getting night killed in the last game. I feel pretty confident at reading butt-hurt and he reeks of butt-hurt townie to me. But what is he butthurt about? I've definitely done that before as scum (and had my ass lynched for my troubles). The combative attitude feels forced after reading his other games again. | ||
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On May 01 2019 09:30 wherebugsgo wrote: What avenue, Grack or Rels? There are a few players who haven't showed up, and a few who have but have just disappeared under the radar. It'd be nice if we could get them to talk. I'm going to continue being vague with my reads for a bit because I want to see things play out more. Speaking of non-participants, FecalFeast, mind explaining why you sheeped on MZ, and why you've subsequently been absent from the thread? Rels, since Grack said he lurks as scum D1. HF says that he lurks as either alignment so it's not a bad idea but bad reasoning. Personally I'm inclined to agree with Grack. What are your thoughts? | ||
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I started working in the squadron plans shop Monday and its in a vault so no phones, been really busy. I promise I'll reread the thread and have some thoughts when I get home. For what its worth I would have definitely voted Jock, nothing I skimmed over just now would have made me change my mind. | ||
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I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying. However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. | ||
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Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. | ||
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On May 03 2019 07:58 Grackaroni wrote: I AGREE WITH MZ AND HOLYFLARE. WHY DIDN'T ANYONE ELSE MENTION THIS EARLIER. I mean the one advantage of being inactive as shit is it allows me to read everything at once so I have a clearer memory of what happened rather than having to wait a few hours in between substantial posts. | ||
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On May 03 2019 07:59 Grackaroni wrote: Not really so much though. I think it's null. I think it will be worth taking a look at if Bugs flips red. Again I was agreeing more with HF than anything else when I was catching up so I'm fairly confident in that flip. I think the miller argument is an incredibly flimsy defense at this point and with the GF dead it makes literally zero sense for scum HF to do a 1-1 trade. | ||
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On May 03 2019 08:14 wherebugsgo wrote: from my standpoint and the knowledge I have this is a post that manages to say absolutely nothing. "I was liking what HF posted" -> cool, if you're scum you already have the knowledge that HF is town "VE is almost always town" why? slides into hypothetical about VE if I flip scum -> knows that this will never happen so it's a completely empty thing to say MZ is setting up a lynch on Pandain after I flip here with this post. Back when VE started playing, I pushed for his mislynch a lot for behavior that he's displaying right now, after I played with him more I realized that's just how he plays town. So I have a town read on him. I hated Pandain's post flip stuff as we've already been over, however we were in the middle of discussing you vs HF when VE popped in with the posts about Pandain. I even agree with VE on the content there, however if you flip scum (which I'm fairly sure you will) it looks like VE made an out of character chainsaw defense of you before HF claimed. However its your last little line which caught my attention, what do you mean by setting up a lynch? First off I have zero thread pull so suggesting I'm going to get someone lynched is hysterical. Secondly, you have talked about Pandain probably more than any other player in this game, you've gone from town reading him, to calling him scum, to calling him town, to listing him in your "possibles" category and with your last post you seem completely confused with him. All that is to say, why do you have an issue with me reading Pandain as scummy when you have literally done that twice or three times yourself? | ||
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On May 03 2019 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm thinking Pandain/Vivax/killsomelurkers currently. It's hard for me to give a shit about finding "the last" mafia when we've got 2 lynches in the works and everything could change. Pandain my main suspicion, I'm trusting people on Vivax and given my druthers I'd remove MZ and FF before starting in on lurkers. I changed my mind on you VE, there's now no universe in which I think you're chainsawing Bugs. I also am more certain you're right about Pandain as well. Who are you liking for scumlurkers (aside from me since I've seen you throw my name around a few times). | ||
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