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On March 18 2019 18:09 Jockmcplop wrote: 9:22, Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun, so once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. What a great movie. | ||
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On April 06 2019 16:15 KelsierSC wrote: Good Morning, I've gone through the thread and will share a couple of reads. Holyflare is my top town right now, Stood out to me, I have no clue about factions and names and arbics but this jumped out to me as town and showed a good amount of thought put into the game, furthermore the rant post about how his role was shit...I don't see scum doing that. With regards to scum, I voted ff in part because some other peope said so but mostly so we could get the game going and we could stop talking about Roman history or slam's girlfriend/next victim but I can't give more than "i don't like his posting" I think Mig's pushing on him is pretty justified though. Finally I don't like VE, it feels like it's mostly a lot of memes and jokes when the game had moved past that to an extent and didn't like his vote reasoning but the thing that struck me the most was. After rayn had said something about arabs. The thing is LS had posted about arbics ~ 400 times in the thread so I don't see how you can interpret or question what Rayn said if you are reading the thread at all. Seemed bad to me. I have small leanings either way on other players but nothing I want to specifically write about. I will probably look more into HF's circle/town and see what I agree with and then look at what rayn posts as he is generally not terrible and I can understand what he writes This post seems unnaturally try hard. Scummy. | ||
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rayne and LS looked for their faction and TW said he has a mafia name in his pm. While I see some differences, I don’t see the leap to confirmed anything. And do you mean confirmed “ride or die confirmed” or 97% not voting day 1 confirmed? I’d also like a response to HF’s point about both of your TMI examples being contradictory. | ||
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On April 06 2019 14:19 Mig wrote: So the only thing you find weird is damdred? What do you think about rayn/hf? What do you think about rayn/Hf? I feel like we play similiarly. At least from a game from 3-4 years ago and your filter looks like mine generally does at first lol. Plus, Migs are great airplanes. Let’s chat. | ||
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So, is he still an open wolf? Why exactly are you townreading Tumblewood? On April 06 2019 22:00 Eywa- wrote: Jockmcplop confirmed scum. Total lack of conviction. Is this for real? Both the confirmed part and presumably because it’s lack of conviction on Jock’s part? On April 06 2019 23:11 Eywa- wrote: I'm wondering here if you're trying to defend your actions or theirs... Noted for future. Maybe I’m just having trouble reading people due irl reasons, but I’m not finding where Kelsier was doing the things he would be defending. Can you point them out? I really disliked Kels first real post, but have warmed up to him for later ones, specifically this one (I disagree about FF though). What exactly do you disagree with? I feel his confusion about Damdred. I think I’ve settled for just thinking he’s 3p, but then I think well maybe he’s town and rayn can be 3p, but I think rayns being far more towny. I really don’t see either being mafia though, but it’s not a stretch at all for them to be antitown. | ||
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On April 07 2019 19:43 Palmar wrote: To clarify about Damdred. If I'm to accept his posts at face value, I'd have to believe he has found a way to read rayn as town pretty strongly, in addition to believing he has an anti-town (ie: killing townies, because he thinks rayn is town) secondary win condition and in addition that he chose to reveal that win condition. Aside from the fact that secondary win conditions are both rare and terrible, even if Damdred has one his optimal play as town is to just play like town and shut up about it. There is absolutely no benefit for Damdred to reveal having objectives outside of killing mafia as town. I don't believe him. What I think happened is Damdred is positioning himself to play as 3rd party, ie, he wants us to think he's a neutral 3rd party faction. Mafia does this all the time, it's better to be perceived as a 3rd party working on your own objectives than as mafia. Town doesn't have the same problem because it's even better to be perceived as town than 3rd party. I don't believe him, I think he's scum. His best excuse would probably just be that he's trolling and none of this stuff is real. I can sheep this. | ||
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I’m more interested in Eywa. Anyone want to talk about him? | ||
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Looks too much like you’re just looking for any reason you can find to lynch him. He should basically be null if anything. | ||
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On April 07 2019 22:14 Mocsta wrote: How do you foresee me responding to this? Its all backhand slaps, yeah.... Your first point is so off the mark I'm in shock, and your second point should tend towards a scum read on me. Tell the truth please.. did you even read what I wrote? Ok you’re right he posted three posts of zero substance before your entrance. I’ll concede that. I disagree about this being lazy Palmar tho. Or even really any different than last game at this point. Or even that lazy Palmar still means mafiaPalmar. I agreed about your first post concerning Damdred at first except I thought he was going to be 3p. I agreed about the points that I don’t think town factions would need to kill each other. That seems messed up. I’m not sure why Palmar’s argument on why Damdred is mafia rung out to me more than HF’s despite essentially being the same I don’t know. Maybe timing. I’m having a hard time seeing how towndamdred posts the way he did. I’d like to hear your worlds. | ||
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On April 08 2019 03:02 Tumblewood wrote: also the good ol' "X is probably town but i wanna lynch him anyway." bad not to mention....... where did this vivax vote come from??? no mention of vivax anywhere earlier in this filter. and vivax is p townie too ##unvote ##vote Mocsta What makes you think Vivax is towny? I’m not seeing it at all. He’s not angry and he’s not acumreading me like normal town vivax does. | ||
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On April 08 2019 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote: This is kinda bullshit you knowingly joined a themed game ya? An Onegu Themed game. <3 | ||
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On April 07 2019 19:24 Tubesock wrote: So, is he still an open wolf? Why exactly are you townreading Tumblewood? Is this for real? Both the confirmed part and presumably because it’s lack of conviction on Jock’s part? Maybe I’m just having trouble reading people due irl reasons, but I’m not finding where Kelsier was doing the things he would be defending. Can you point them out? I really disliked Kels first real post, but have warmed up to him for later ones, specifically this one (I disagree about FF though). What exactly do you disagree with? I feel his confusion about Damdred. I think I’ve settled for just thinking he’s 3p, but then I think well maybe he’s town and rayn can be 3p, but I think rayns being far more towny. I really don’t see either being mafia though, but it’s not a stretch at all for them to be antitown. | ||
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On April 08 2019 03:12 disformation wrote: normally at least one person in the game wants to strangle vivax if hes town. didnt see it this game. i also dont hate the m_z post on rayn. Agreed Vivax just isn’t controversial. I don’t know what I think about rayn. I dont like his giving up bit. MZ’s post didn’t sing to me though. | ||
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On April 08 2019 03:12 Tumblewood wrote: his last reads post was good. that is beside the point though. what do you think of mocsta? I’m townreading Mocsta. Mostly for his entrance and when he talked to me. Yes wanting to lynch town to get rid of headache is bad. I think I’d have to search a lot of games to find one where a mafia said that though. To me it’s NAI. | ||
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On April 08 2019 03:12 Tumblewood wrote: his last reads post was good. that is beside the point though. what do you think of mocsta? I don’t share the MiG sentiment. He has a good point about Kelsier freely townreading HF and didn’t like Kels bad post. I started townreading kel for some reason I don’t remember. I’m fine with a Damdred lynch, not really an LS one or Grack either. | ||
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On April 09 2019 07:17 Mig wrote: If the inquisition operative did not kill ewya, no idea why hf is alive. He basically claimed mathmatecian with the differentiate. HF did you learn anything from that or did it do anything? This is super bizarre to me. I’m looking at the nightkills and thinking what the fuck is going on? FF kills LS, easy enough. Eywa killed by the Inguisitor Jock is hoping to kill, and Grack vanishes. Why would Mafia kill Jock? That’s a really weird nk, and why’d Grack vanish without a flip? MiG- Yo HF! Why you alive? I’m voting Mig. | ||
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On April 09 2019 09:17 Mocsta wrote: And if the game is about genoa being a cultist, it makes limited sense because by the time this is evident, a lot of town Kp roles that can eliminate genoa is out of the game. At this point my only comfortable vote would be against [UoN]Sentinel for the same reasons I articulated last night. Otherwise, i would actually consider a no-lynch. Actually Genoa being cultist makes a lot of sense. It explains why we all have alternate win cons in case we kill the cultist early on. That would be a boring game if we lynched mafia d1 and ended the game right there. I don’t understand how a no-lynch benefits us, explain please. | ||
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On April 09 2019 15:36 Mocsta wrote: This is the post I was referring to with Tubesock The part in green is acceptable, but its the part in red I find odd because when he addressed me it was extremely passive aggressive - which I called him out no. Even a couple days removed from the event, I find this exchange odd. Tubesock is not engaging me as if he wants to discern my alignment OR thought my previous posts were townie. Hes trying to shit on me. Def worth a filter dive I say. First I wasn’t trying to shit on you. But I understand you’re particularly sensitive (HF is berating me!!) but truthfully I was townreading you for exactly what I said. I wanted to hear your worlds where Damdred is town, maybe I should have added a paragraph with that instead of the last sentence as you ignored it or missed it. The real problem I’m having is I have no strong townreads. I usually have some towns I can trust. I don’t have them this game. Granted I’m a little distracted with my alt wincon. I’m also troubled by the sentiment to town the Romans as a town balance to the Hindu. Hindu wants to use Arab numbers, Romans want to stop that. The Genoa are here too, so it seems like the Romans thematically would be mafia. But I don’t think raynp and FF playing like they did if that were true. Anyway, I agree with Slam and HF , we should lynch MiG. Sentinel is a fine target too. | ||
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On April 09 2019 15:41 Mocsta wrote: @Tubesock Where are you with Vivax now? Same. Vivax’s townlight is bright generally. This game not so much. | ||
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On April 09 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote: If you are serious that there might only be 1 mafia and we have alternate wincons in case we lynch them then fuck this even more lol. Yeah but this is still a super fun puzzle to figure out. | ||
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On April 09 2019 18:19 Holyflare wrote: I mean differentiate is definitely mathematical. Yes, but the way you used it and how you’ve acted in thread regarding roles and factions would not leave any rational person to attempt a kill on you vs the guy who fully claimed. | ||
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On April 07 2019 23:46 Mocsta wrote: Palmar vivax mafia Mig maybe mafia Mz obtuse like last game. Maybe actually town. Could lynch just to get rid of headache. I forgot about ksc. No idea Goinf to bed Going to settle on vivax ##vote: vivax I do not understand your progression. From your filter prior to this, you speak of Palmar and Mig as scum. You don’t mention Vivax at all. Can you elaborate please? | ||
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Letting go of this would be lazy. | ||
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On April 09 2019 20:19 Mocsta wrote: lol.. you realise the irony of your read flip on me, can apply equally to my read of vivax. i already explained why palmar didnt get my vote. vivax is clearly there as my second. now, are you the inquisitor or not... That’s why I’m asking. But you’re being intentionally obstructive and uncooperative. That’s why I’m scumreading you along with the bullshit anger about HF’s beration. You’re just trying to fire people up. Then ask about my read flips. I’m asking about yours to figure more shit out. Just because I TR’d you for a little bit doesn’t mean it was strong, nor mean you’re not being further evaluated. You act like it should be set in stone. No I’m not inquisitor. But why would I admit it if I were? | ||
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On April 09 2019 20:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm here. I like a Mig lynch as much as the next guy, but that kinda feels like a lurker lynch as much as anything. Also I was going to lynch him D3, I was kinda feeling a Sent/Kels lynch today. Q'est que c'est? Why’s it matter if it’s D3? Do you see anything weird with Mig’s reaction to the nightkills? | ||
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On April 09 2019 21:02 Mocsta wrote: Ts #1595 Obstructive would have been telling u to get lost or flat out ignored I did my best to work with the pile of shit u threw at me As for inquisitor . I dunno. Perhaps its a town role. Eithe rway. U self admittedly stated u r focused on ya alt win con Lol.. presumably relating to anti town function So why shouldnt u be lynched is the question Go ahead and try. You haven’t answered any of my questions. Technically I guess one since you did say you voted Vivax because of his posts during that time stamp. So not much for me to go on as far as what you’re thinking. But none of my others. Last game Wafflecone as scum had all my same scumreads essentially. So while you and I agree on killing MiG, Vivax, and even Sentinel, I’d like to know your reasoning. Because reasoning matters. | ||
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I bussed HF and Eywa. Didn’t townread Eywa. I had a post asking him about 4 questions and he never answered. I Also didn’t want him recruited because I thought I was to prevent collaboration between Fibonacci, Euclid, and Pythagoras. The Hindu/Arabic mathematician talk got me super nervous. I lightly townread HF, and thought he’d be the best NK, so hopefully he got shot and Eywa would die, and LS switched from claiming to recruit Damdred to Eywa, so I didn’t want that to happen at all. This collaboration talk in thread got me super nervous so I PM’d my guesses to mods. TW is Euclid, HF is Pyth, Grack is Fib. It actually started as a question, I wanted to know if I needed an earlier time stamp than the thread collaboration. I’m 3p, don’t win with either. As long as none of the three collaborate by endgame I win. Doesn’t even look like I need to survive. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:20 disformation wrote: ah tubesock is the busdriver. slam might just have claimed inquisitor. Sorry I am the Inguisitor. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:23 Pandain wrote: Why did you pm a guess? If you guessed correctly you win or something? Yes. The order matters and I must align the roles with players. I can guess up to three, but if my first guess isn’t correct then the others are not considered. I will be removed at eod. If TW is Euclid, he will be removed. If Hf is Pyth and TW is Euclid they will be removed. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:24 Alakaslam wrote: No, my role is rayn’s We are Romana who don’t like the changes fibionacci and the Hindus are bringing to italy This is why I was thinking Romans would be mafia, because I’m employed by the Catholic Church to stop the Arabic math change. As the Roma also want. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote: what the fuck so 4 people could be removed from the game if you just guessed right the first day? Yes. | ||
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On April 10 2019 05:43 Holyflare wrote: doesn't sound like pytha is into differentiation does it? Nice play. I wasn’t considering you at first because of the imaginary bit. Then you tricked me. Well done. | ||
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So I think timing matters. | ||
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On April 10 2019 06:44 disformation wrote: i also find it hilarious that i was trying to be a bit sneaky with the euclid thing. SINCE I DIDNT KNEW PYTAGORAS WAS IN THE FUCKING GAME YO. fluff text all about italy. so im yo imma refer to the greek master of geometry like: though if you dig real deep: Euclid's Elements: Books I–IV and VI discuss plane geometry. Many results about plane figures are proved, for example "In any triangle two angles taken together in any manner are less than two right angles." (Book 1 proposition 17 ) and the Pythagorean theorem "In right angled triangles the square on the side subtending the right angle is equal to the squares on the sides containing the right angle." (Book I, proposition 47) so since in my head there was no pytagoras in the game, i thought euclid would figure it out I almost submitted you D1 as Pythagoras. LS as Fibonaci. Luckily Grack posted his joke to LS and I thought something was askew. | ||
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Rayn isn’t acting like town!rayn and his argument about mafia getting recruited and outing their scum buddies and taking the win with the new faction is wrong. Looking at the dead Hindu, it’s clear that LS could only recruit other Hindu. Likewise Mocsta can only “recruit” other mafia. Maybe this is how they get into their usual qt and start as lone wolfs. So mafia getting recruited into a different faction is incorrect, but helps the Mocsta asked someone if they were Inguisitor, then focused on me being one. I think he was hunting and that’s why he never really called me scum nor pushed me. Super weird for town. 3p and scum are the same to me when town until they claim 3p. FF and Slam are normally coin flips anyway, but they’re even less involved than last game. So after MiG or Vivax flip town, look into the Romans. There’s at least two mafia since there were two kp last night (Jock and Eywa). Those happened before anyone could be recruited. Notice no Roman has died. Your friend Tubesock the Inquisition Operative | ||
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On April 10 2019 22:09 Mig wrote: Reasoning like this is why I am glad I did what I did. From my perspective nothing I have done at all has been scummy. I was around the entire time before lynch day1 trying to figure out who the right person to lynch was. I tried to lynch palmar who could easily be mafia. If I were mafia I could have sat back and done nothing since the 2 wagons were town (which is probably what most of the mafia did if there are mafia). I was asking everyone I could questions to try to figure stuff out and to get make everyone declare their stances for future information. I tried to redirect the town away from role setup speculation and to actually try to think about who was the scummiest. As town I did my best to play pro town in the limited time I had to play and still got called mafia so fuck it! Despite my play there are still people who prefer to lynch me over someone like vivax who happens to be the one person in the game without an alternate win con. I don’t actually care if you were town or not, I thought you were mafia when you asked why HF is alive and mentioned Eywa. To me it looked like you knew why Jock as killed and was surprised that Eywa went down instead of HF. And since I bussed, I knew HF should have been dead. | ||
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On April 10 2019 22:15 Mig wrote: Mafia is not snap posting in the thread asking why someone they just tried to shoot is still alive lol. If you are mafia your goal is to not be discovered. I would not draw attention to myself in that way it makes no sense. Alakaslam also just posted “lynch MiG” with nothing else so I thought he might have tracked you. And you’re not wrong in what you say. It means nothing but I know you’re town. What really is removing you all from the game is explicitly saying your names. That was insanity. Once the first letters came out, I wasn’t far from knowing who was who. | ||
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