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On March 07 2019 11:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 11:20 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2019 11:12 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta, Ace is really scummy and I would Lynch him after hf and bh die. So I was like he’s too scummy to be scum but then I was like he’s really scummy though and then I was like if I remove his name would I lynch and then I was like yeah so yeah he mafia Hi oats, one more thing please. Do you think HF and BH are both scum? I can see a world where you want one of HF/BH over Ace. but I dont understand why both. Why not? Bh was useless, lamp was like let’s go and everyone followed then bh marytred but in the end, holyflare didn’t mayor kill BH so why can’t they both be mafia? if you could mayor lynch one of HF/BH right now. Do you think one is more likely to flip scum? I'm reading acro's big post and I'm not finding any fault with the logic yet. So on one hand I now have a read read on HF but on the other hand the entire case is predicated on BH being scum. I don't see anything redeeming with BH at the moment either (especially after admitting that as town he fights to avoid getting mislynched - this game definitely felt like it was done for him rather than him doing the fighting). I think at this point lynching HF would be more beneficial to town based on at least D1/early N1 actions. I haven't been around for a lot of the last two days but it seems HF was outright malicious whereas BH has kinda been playing dumb. So I'm voting HF. ##Vote: Holyflare
All of my whats. The acro case was a giant bs narrative??
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On March 07 2019 12:06 Ace wrote:Holyflare is Scum https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27283802 <---bullshit filter dive in fact, there are just too many posts that show he isn't scum hunting. It's either a lax attempt to show what someone else did wrong, asking "what should we do now?" type questions, or just filler. Outside of this, he killed Palmar. The entire reason behind my Day 1 post was to tie any mayor candidate to their lynch choice. It's not just that he didn't lynch Sentinel - if he had justifiable reasons then so be it. But he lynched Palmar and his reasoning rests on because he thought he was scum. Seriously. This guy should be the obvious lynch. How many people really thought Palmar was scum? He just did it because he could.And even if you somehow don't believe he's Scum he is clearly a net negative for the Town. He literally has done nothing - and this is coming from a guy who's been afk, caught up on only 30 pages or so and sees the nonsense plain as day. The nightkills - 3 dead. All Town. I refuse, literally refuse to think a vigilante shot any of them over Holyfield. Like it seems unfathomable that the targets would end up at Marv, Iamp, or Koshi (lol wut?). Especially with one being Vet and dying (maybe Rb + shot). If there's a third party out there, I think it goes without saying you should start shooting scum or clashing flips from now on  Lastly, I saw something about marv playing cop wrong. I actually think he made himself "obvious town" or whatever you want to call it and should have drawn night protection. Especially since he was a replacement with fresh eyes into the game. Maybe we have no more docs or the kill went through somehow. Either way I think it's worth backtracking him and iamps posts (-2 nightlife means very desperate kill) especially.
Couple of things really. Why is the Mocsta post a bull shit filter dive? It points out a lot of inconsistencies, finds incongruous thoughts with his actions and reaches a conclusion. So why is it bs? Why is this then "hf has done no scum hunting"?
Your whole basis to scum read me is that I lynched the person I said I would lynch because I thought he was mafia. Just because you say nobody else did, didn't think it yourself or just plain didn't like it, not once did anyone say (other than maybe acro or wave) don't lynch palmar hf my god.
I think it's incredibly superficial to say I've done nothing and quite factually incorrect.
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So, yes, I think you're now mafia, Ace. I thought your n1 post was facetious and a way to get reactions but as it turns out you just like to throw shit wherever you can instead and jump on the wagon that doesn't achieve anything.
I get the feeling you don't even believe I'm mafia from your post, just a guy that killed Palmar.
But he lynched Palmar and his reasoning rests on because he thought he was scum.
Seriously. This guy should be the obvious lynch. How many people really thought Palmar was scum? He just did it because he could.And even if you somehow don't believe he's Scum he is clearly a net negative for the Town. He literally has done nothing - and this is coming from a guy who's been afk, caught up on only 30 pages or so and sees the nonsense plain as day.
Hf killed his scum read that he made a case on but guys he's done no scum hunting whatsoever. He wanted to lynch his scum read guys oh man.
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On March 07 2019 12:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Ok reread with the timing of the votes in mind and actually I take back my opinions on the Acro post, it def seems like reaching. Guess I'm going with my other one
##Vote: Blazinghand
You are assuming the vote count that's in the vote thread also existed at deadline. It didn't.
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On March 07 2019 12:37 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
also one of rayn and holyflare is always mafia here. the other kept the other alive for obv reasons. they suck each others thumbs Can you explain this reasoning more? Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:55 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 09:46 AMG wrote:On March 06 2019 09:01 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 09:00 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi + AMG i reckon.
AMG is a good player Could have fooled me. Now youre just being rude. This didnt happen by accident: On December 25 2012 14:00 kitaman27 wrote:
TL Mafia Database
Overall Win Percentage (Minimum 15 games)
1) Adam4167 11/15 = 73.3333%
Town Win Percentage (Minimum 10 games)
1) Adam4167 9/12 = 75.0000%
Do you plan to be a jerk all game? Do you think you've done anything this game worthy of being shot after you have replaced in? I don't think so, especially over the people that actually got shot. It's not an insult to you, I don't know how you play at all. You have even specifically said your play is inhibited by real life so why is this me being a jerk and not just realistic? Sorry if you got offended. Lol. I mean, come on. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 06 2019 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
whoever the vig is probably shot iamp or marv both had a little shade on them and some rambo shennagan user like ff or dandred could have easily done it. IF hf is claiming vig this makes it very easy Why in the world would a potential vig shoot outside of HF/BH? Dang IKR. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Stop the speculation. Probably scum kp, leave it at that.
Ugh my short lived boner has been killed Scum having 4 KP? Or 3 KP plus a 1 shot? Why wouldn't you speculate on this? Best to figure out what are plausible roles in the game with our limited information. We have another set of bad day/night and we might as well start thinking about a mass claim. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I'm going to stick around for the next 5 hours or so and see what I can find.
I need to see cooler heads prevail here even though I think HF is a dumbass. I have nothing against lynching Palmar day 1. I just think that Palmar's posts this game were pretty obviously high quality posts ignoring his name.
HF is probably not mafia. Early in the day multiple people said that he was a worse mayor choice than Palmar because he was liable to do something stupid. I knew he would do something stupid. His ego tells him that the only way that Palmar can have more votes than him is if Palmar is mafia. To no surprise he does something stupid. There is maybe a 10% chance that HF makes a calculated play as mafia to get rid of Palmar knowing he can talk his way out of the lynch the next day. K, let's pretend Holyflare really did think this is true. Is it too much of a stretch to say these 2 events have to also exist: 1.) Holyflare thinks Palmar is scum, and is also being boosted by Scum votes 2.) Holyflare accuses and actually pushes the people on the Palmar wagon more than anywhere else, showing he really thinks there is a scum party. If this does not happen, then he doesn't really think Palmar is Mafia. At least not for the reason listed here.
Hahahahahahahahaha there was a whole discussion about which one of the palmar voters was also mafia LOL!
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On March 07 2019 12:54 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I am around was playing some scbw with my friend after playing pokemon if anyone wants to talk. Also I saw your answer rels and fair play. I got some more questions for you and it same ones I gave tina:
lWhat you think of EoD in terms of like spread of the mafia votes on the following scenarios:
If BH is Town?
If BH is Scum? given BH begged to be lynched, there is anything worthwhile to analyze in the vote. If he's scum, his team has known for a long time he's a likely D1 lynch and has planned accordingly. If he's town, well, same thing. THe only thing is that scum probably didn't vote en masse for the same guy, but that's not specific to this vote, more of a general rule
The bh wagon on really starts fairly close to deadline. Don't think mafia have much time to organise anything or even know bh was an option.
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On March 07 2019 17:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 17:20 Holyflare wrote:On March 07 2019 12:37 Ace wrote:On March 06 2019 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
also one of rayn and holyflare is always mafia here. the other kept the other alive for obv reasons. they suck each others thumbs Can you explain this reasoning more? On March 06 2019 09:55 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 09:46 AMG wrote:On March 06 2019 09:01 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 09:00 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi + AMG i reckon.
AMG is a good player Could have fooled me. Now youre just being rude. This didnt happen by accident: On December 25 2012 14:00 kitaman27 wrote:
TL Mafia Database
Overall Win Percentage (Minimum 15 games)
1) Adam4167 11/15 = 73.3333%
Town Win Percentage (Minimum 10 games)
1) Adam4167 9/12 = 75.0000%
Do you plan to be a jerk all game? Do you think you've done anything this game worthy of being shot after you have replaced in? I don't think so, especially over the people that actually got shot. It's not an insult to you, I don't know how you play at all. You have even specifically said your play is inhibited by real life so why is this me being a jerk and not just realistic? Sorry if you got offended. Lol. I mean, come on. On March 06 2019 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 06 2019 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
whoever the vig is probably shot iamp or marv both had a little shade on them and some rambo shennagan user like ff or dandred could have easily done it. IF hf is claiming vig this makes it very easy Why in the world would a potential vig shoot outside of HF/BH? Dang IKR. On March 06 2019 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Stop the speculation. Probably scum kp, leave it at that.
Ugh my short lived boner has been killed Scum having 4 KP? Or 3 KP plus a 1 shot? Why wouldn't you speculate on this? Best to figure out what are plausible roles in the game with our limited information. We have another set of bad day/night and we might as well start thinking about a mass claim. On March 06 2019 10:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I'm going to stick around for the next 5 hours or so and see what I can find.
I need to see cooler heads prevail here even though I think HF is a dumbass. I have nothing against lynching Palmar day 1. I just think that Palmar's posts this game were pretty obviously high quality posts ignoring his name.
HF is probably not mafia. Early in the day multiple people said that he was a worse mayor choice than Palmar because he was liable to do something stupid. I knew he would do something stupid. His ego tells him that the only way that Palmar can have more votes than him is if Palmar is mafia. To no surprise he does something stupid. There is maybe a 10% chance that HF makes a calculated play as mafia to get rid of Palmar knowing he can talk his way out of the lynch the next day. K, let's pretend Holyflare really did think this is true. Is it too much of a stretch to say these 2 events have to also exist: 1.) Holyflare thinks Palmar is scum, and is also being boosted by Scum votes 2.) Holyflare accuses and actually pushes the people on the Palmar wagon more than anywhere else, showing he really thinks there is a scum party. If this does not happen, then he doesn't really think Palmar is Mafia. At least not for the reason listed here. Hahahahahahahahaha there was a whole discussion about which one of the palmar voters was also mafia LOL! Talk to me about Rels.
He's just +1ing posts. Nothing special yet. Hard null.
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What the fuck? So the op is wrong and there are actually hidden roles?
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Yes but a back up cop is still just a cop. I thought it was a small variant on an existing op role.
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How active has rels been in qt?
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That's not activity, that's content. How many times has he been in qt and not posting in thread for example?
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I think slam is absolutely mafia. He keeps quoting things that make him look like he's flip flopping on my read but every time someone else votes me he just becomes super serious and says "i can't get past hf living anymore".
He doesn't interact with me, he's avoiding me. I don't even know the reason he's really voting me anymore either.
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Aren't you in NL? Same timezones as France.
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Thank you for your insights.
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I don't know why rels would mason rsoul though when there's a high probability she could get shot. Unless he knows she's not going to get shot.
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BH you have an uncanny knack to sound disingenuous with everything you write. How do you do it?
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I feel like mocsta dropped his scum read on ace far too quickly even though ace just made a few incongruous false statements.
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So please look at the people that didn't want to vote you if you're town? Or how about just look at exo who called you town and wanted to lynch you anyway?
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On March 07 2019 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like mocsta dropped his scum read on ace far too quickly even though ace just made a few incongruous false statements. Mocsta's reasoning is good. So you don't still think Acrofales is mafia?
I'm undecided. I'm pretty burnt out from defending myself tbh.
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Why are we assuming there's 3p now wtf?
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