End of the World Party Mafia - Page 23

On March 12 2019 08:28 Mocsta wrote:
Yeah this is legit. I completely forgot about him as well.

##Vote: Tubesock

On March 12 2019 18:39 Acrofales wrote:

No. We need to lunch scum. Maybe we need to lunch you, you sneaky lurker

On March 12 2019 18:46 Acrofales wrote:

Insofar as I have seen, your main push on Chez came from misinterpreting my role. Me explaining how it worked ended with you still saying Chez is scum for non-definite reasons.

Now I still have no fucking idea what the hell alignment the brown one is this game, but I really don't trust your intentions right now.

On March 12 2019 18:49 Jockmcplop wrote:


If chez flips town what does that tell us about the wagons yesterday?

On March 10 2019 14:17 sicklucker wrote:
Oh hes just a mad hatter j/k lynch chez I thought he had a gun + Show Spoiler +

On March 11 2019 10:46 Ace wrote:
As of now we have these claimed roles. If any of the information is wrong let me know.

1 Normal Vigilante (1 shot) - Tumbleweed
1 Lurker Vigilante (Can only target players that had less than 5 posts previous day) - Arcofales
Mad Hatter with 1 bomb - Fecalfeast
Mad Hatter - Chezinu
Day Vigilante - Pandain

Known roles:

Marv = Cop
Trfel = Doctor
Palmar = Backup Cop
iamperfection = Veteran
BC = Scum Roleblocker



With a closed set up we don't know role numbers, but some things we can surmise. I've stated these concerns in earlier posts but I want to keep this stuff on people's minds.

Most of my thoughts come from how I see a balanced game. This is usually from the idea that Scum doesn't really need much power in their roles to destroy the town. When I see lots of high powered Town Roles I assume scum is compensated somehow.

With what we know right now the Town has a shit ton of KP even if it's 1 shot. We have 5 KP plus the lynch. This isn't really that outlandish on the surface because we started with 36 players. But if we're walking around with that much KP look at what's missing - we've had 1 Doctor flip, and 1 cop flip. The backup cop doesn't count as an investigation role because it does nothing until the cop flips. That means in addition to veteran we've seen 2 protective roles and ONE active investigation role included with 8? total KP, 3 of which are guaranteed to hit Town and come with a role blocker.

No one has come out with any information on night investigations. I highly doubt we only had one information role so someone is holding onto something. This again gives the Town massive power vs the only known Scum role of RB.

So I just don't buy all of these claims.

Pandain's Day Vigi claim seems credible to me. Scum having a Day Vigi when they already have 3 KP doesn't match with what we know so far. I'm supposing mods know about the self-confirmation power of normal vigilantes and how shooting during the day boosts that even more.

TW hasn't been counter claimed on the BC shot. Almost confirmed town.

FF and Chez's claims can't be confirmed w/o rolecop or death lol. Both of them being hatters and Town is just wtf. But luckily these claims coincide with the problem role imo: Acro's lurker vigilante.

I've never seen this role afaik remember. When I first saw it I was like oh shit what a great concept! But then I kept thinking about it and it just doesn't seem to fit at face value. Remember, one of the issues with vigilantes is they are Town aligned but their KP can also hit Town. MAfia doesn't have this issue as they know their teammates and their KP will always hit Town.

So Acro is a Town aligned vigilante and gets to shoot people based on lurking conditions. First, the mods would have to know the issue that comes up if only Town satisfies that condition. You'd have a town aligned vigilante becoming completely anti-Town and killing teammates. Sure, they may want to give players control of dealing with lurkers and we can look at Acro as a mod tool. But, post count isn't a sub for post quality. They'd quickly realize that a potentially valuable pro-Town player would be screwed. However, this isn't the only problem with the role for me.

Damdred + Chezinu + Pandain. Those were his choices Night 2. I highly, highly doubt if this role is true it would drop only Town players into his cross hairs. It would be a strictly anti-town role and we would have to lynch him anyway unless you believe he only has 1 shot. If his role is true Acro should have thought hard about some of this and immediately railroaded Chez or Pandain. And if Pandain is town confirmed day vigilante, this means Chezinu has to be scum. Anyone believing Acro's claim should want Chezinu lynched soon.

Let's see how the night plays out and who comes out with a claim tomorrow.

On March 11 2019 13:07 Mocsta wrote:
Wtf role si this?

On March 11 2019 13:04 Chezinu wrote:
Dear doctors and medics,

Do not protect me. My death will lead to more information... That is only if I die at night. Ace is an amazing investigator.





Caution: bombs can eliminate players that visit the player with the bomb when it goes off.

On February 09 2010 16:02 Incognito wrote:
Mad Hatter
You may lay bombs on one player per night (maximum 2). If you are killed you will throw the switch and detonate them, killing the players (if they aren't protected by extra night lives, paramedics, or bodyguards). You may remove any number of them from players at any time during the night to get them back, but if a player is lynched with one on them while the you are still alive you lose that bomb for good. Bombs are refunded if the target is killed during the night.

On March 03 2019 04:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

You were one of the two names Ace threw out to make someone non-contributing mayor.

Figure you're reading closely enough to say what you'd do as mayor, which no one else had mentioned but Ace, but still don't want to put forward an opinion about anyone.

Reads scummy to me.

On March 03 2019 18:23 Blazinghand wrote:


I don't RNG *every* time, heh.

On March 03 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote:


Wouldn't say that's a scum read. If anything it's the scummy side of null and was more an extrapolation of everyone else's mindsets on rayn than a read on him. I just didn't agree with people town reading rayn and didn't understand how they reached that conclusion when he's mediocre af.

On March 12 2019 22:20 Acrofales wrote:

Why does FF not getting shot townconfirm him? Two possibilities:

1. He's mafia himself.
2. Mafia believes his claim and fears he has a bomb on one of them.

I still need to read FF's filter, but this mindless zerg onto Chez's wagon stinks. Chez looks bad. I agree. But this wagon looks awful.

On March 12 2019 23:17 Acrofales wrote:

No. If mafia thinks FF is a townie hatter and has a bomb on a townie, he is dead. So the two reasons mafia don't shoot him are the ones above. In only one of those two is he town. So I don't see how FF living confirms him as town.

I guess add a 3rd: they just want to keep the wifom alive.

On March 12 2019 23:07 Onegu wrote:
I dont think I have ever played with pandain. I was scum reading him.

But why does he move the lynch off of Ace if scum? I guess next lvl plays but meh. He isnt getting lynched today so I will just ignore him for today.

On March 12 2019 23:46 Onegu wrote:
Also I found my post where I learned to read slam

No, my meta read is good on slam rsoultins is bad. Count how many times he has said chupazi, Svengali, or hijole this game(after day post) multiply by (5-day #) then subtract he post count (including pregame) if you are in the negative he is scum. In the positive he is town.

On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:


People won't lynch Chez because they don't think he's obviously scum. So if you want to lynch Chez make a better case than he's RPing the brown, because if you actually read his posts there's some decent amount of effort into understanding the game there, IMHO.

Sent is different. Let's assume he's telling the truth. In that case the only ppl who know his alignment are scum. If he's scum then they'll try to save him and if he isn't they'll try to kill him. Lynching him is not the best option, because there's far too much confusion in that wagon to get any information.

Now let's assume he's lying. I can't think of a town reason for doing this, and so he's scum. The rest is similar to above.

Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.

On March 05 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar (11): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, Acrofales, Vivax, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, Trfel, Blazinghand

How has this guy got 11 people voting for him when his sole policy is only to kill Sentinel who doesn't even look bad?

Almost the entirety, if not THE entirety of this wagon is the sketchiest people in this game. It's even growing!

On March 09 2019 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Idk why scum killed marv, Koshi and Iamp on N1 over the likes of rayn, HF who were town.

So I went back to reading their opinions before the phase ended and extrapolated something like:

Marv -> mentions acro
Iamp -> Mentions 1gu
Koshi -> Mentions wiggles and sentinel

Could be they were onto something there.

On March 09 2019 22:42 LightningStrike wrote:

HF should always been shot by a vig of any sort though so we had info on the mayor wagon Day 1 and the Day 2 lynch.....