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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:08 GMT
#5324
On March 08 2019 04:01 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:45 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:30 Palmar wrote:
go after mocsta -> threatens to kill himself
go after conversion -> leaves the game

I may have a problem.


You’re not the problem. Neither is HF.

? If Palmar wasn't a problem then why was your vote to have him killed at this point?

I actually dived into your filter to find where you strong townread HF... and I don't see it at all. You made up your mind HF was town at the start of the game based on... nothing? And your comment after nightfall was about me, not about HF at all. In fact, it's the post that is continuously quoted here that has the whole ramble about how wonderful it would have been if HF had killed scum!Palmar.

Why are you townreading HF?



It started with agreement on a semi long stream of posts. And other small things that he did that I doubt mafia HF would bother with.

While I certainly will semi ignore someone I town from time to time, HF’s townread can disappear quite fast. I’m always watching what he does.

I’ve been called contrarian many times. But I truly believe that him sticking to what he said he’d do (shoot Palmar) is far more likely to come from town HF. I do think MafiaHF would have never pushed Palmar and instead gone after one of the other prominent towns and killed them instead. Rayn he could have killed at the time as most were lukewarm on him at the time. Or whoever.

Lol if he killed rayn he 100% dies today
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:08 GMT
#5325
For some reason people are getting cold feet because of nothing really.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:10 GMT
#5329
On March 08 2019 04:06 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 03:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
rsoul: I don't feel suddenly like Ace is very town like some others do? But I don't feel he's a good lynch either.

this is an extreme hedge that makes no sense because nobody thinks Ace is very town.

On March 08 2019 01:22 Tubesock wrote:
On March 07 2019 12:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Our dedicated fan Oatsmaster also writes in:
On March 07 2019 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.

This should make wriggles town to him right because he does the exact same things as wriggles

This is a funny point that was missed on my first read through. If Tubesock thinks my play looks the same as what I've been pointing out in his, then he should probably read me similarly to his own alignment. If he thinks that makes me look like mafia, that's probably that scum guilt eating him up inside. Oats didn't let that slip slip his attention. Bravo!


So Wiggles that would totally make me mafia right? Like probably the only thing in your case that could make me mafia?

Oats, I want an answer from you as well. Seriously.


I’m bouncing between two cell networks and hotel internet so may get annoyed and disappear.

My gut says BH is town. I need to reread what some of you said about him.

what do you want mr mafia?


Is that bit the reason I’m mafia? Seeing Wiggles do the same thing as me and scumming him because I feel guilt?

I’m going to look in your filter, but what’s your read on wiggles??

Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:10 GMT
#5330
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:06 Tubesock wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
rsoul: I don't feel suddenly like Ace is very town like some others do? But I don't feel he's a good lynch either.

this is an extreme hedge that makes no sense because nobody thinks Ace is very town.

On March 08 2019 01:22 Tubesock wrote:
On March 07 2019 12:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Our dedicated fan Oatsmaster also writes in:
On March 07 2019 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.

This should make wriggles town to him right because he does the exact same things as wriggles

This is a funny point that was missed on my first read through. If Tubesock thinks my play looks the same as what I've been pointing out in his, then he should probably read me similarly to his own alignment. If he thinks that makes me look like mafia, that's probably that scum guilt eating him up inside. Oats didn't let that slip slip his attention. Bravo!


So Wiggles that would totally make me mafia right? Like probably the only thing in your case that could make me mafia?

Oats, I want an answer from you as well. Seriously.


I’m bouncing between two cell networks and hotel internet so may get annoyed and disappear.

My gut says BH is town. I need to reread what some of you said about him.

what do you want mr mafia?


Is that bit the reason I’m mafia? Seeing Wiggles do the same thing as me and scumming him because I feel guilt?

I’m going to look in your filter, but what’s your read on wiggles??

Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia

It’s just logical inconsistencies because you arent town really
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:12 GMT
#5333
On March 08 2019 04:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:01 Tubesock wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:45 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2019 23:30 Palmar wrote:
go after mocsta -> threatens to kill himself
go after conversion -> leaves the game

I may have a problem.


You’re not the problem. Neither is HF.

? If Palmar wasn't a problem then why was your vote to have him killed at this point?

I actually dived into your filter to find where you strong townread HF... and I don't see it at all. You made up your mind HF was town at the start of the game based on... nothing? And your comment after nightfall was about me, not about HF at all. In fact, it's the post that is continuously quoted here that has the whole ramble about how wonderful it would have been if HF had killed scum!Palmar.

Why are you townreading HF?



It started with agreement on a semi long stream of posts. And other small things that he did that I doubt mafia HF would bother with.

While I certainly will semi ignore someone I town from time to time, HF’s townread can disappear quite fast. I’m always watching what he does.

I’ve been called contrarian many times. But I truly believe that him sticking to what he said he’d do (shoot Palmar) is far more likely to come from town HF. I do think MafiaHF would have never pushed Palmar and instead gone after one of the other prominent towns and killed them instead. Rayn he could have killed at the time as most were lukewarm on him at the time. Or whoever.

Lol if he killed rayn he 100% dies today

Not if rayn is scum. But that'd be an amazing bus.

Assuming scum holyflare doesn’t kill his teammate yes
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:12 GMT
#5335
On March 08 2019 04:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:06 Tubesock wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
rsoul: I don't feel suddenly like Ace is very town like some others do? But I don't feel he's a good lynch either.

this is an extreme hedge that makes no sense because nobody thinks Ace is very town.

On March 08 2019 01:22 Tubesock wrote:
On March 07 2019 12:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Our dedicated fan Oatsmaster also writes in:
On March 07 2019 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.

This should make wriggles town to him right because he does the exact same things as wriggles

This is a funny point that was missed on my first read through. If Tubesock thinks my play looks the same as what I've been pointing out in his, then he should probably read me similarly to his own alignment. If he thinks that makes me look like mafia, that's probably that scum guilt eating him up inside. Oats didn't let that slip slip his attention. Bravo!


So Wiggles that would totally make me mafia right? Like probably the only thing in your case that could make me mafia?

Oats, I want an answer from you as well. Seriously.


I’m bouncing between two cell networks and hotel internet so may get annoyed and disappear.

My gut says BH is town. I need to reread what some of you said about him.

what do you want mr mafia?


Is that bit the reason I’m mafia? Seeing Wiggles do the same thing as me and scumming him because I feel guilt?

I’m going to look in your filter, but what’s your read on wiggles??

Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia

It’s just logical inconsistencies because you arent town really

you really think that makes him mafia?

You don’t think it makes him mafia?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:13 GMT
#5338
On March 08 2019 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
SEE OATS????

What?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:14 GMT
#5339
I’m like straight confused
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:20 GMT
#5344
On March 08 2019 04:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m like straight confused

i am super scum but is it that you are confused because you are town or fucking dumb?

I didn’t mention you at all other than the holyflare thing but that was for fun
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:29 GMT
#5355
Let’s talk about this mason thing, seems fairly interesting.

Rels can you say exactly what you can do please?

Rsoul and rels, what have you guys been saying in there?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:30 GMT
#5356
On March 08 2019 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am kind of falling asleep atm. I think you should take a look at my case on Acro but i guess that's a lost call. :/

Well, just dont be idiots. gn

Okay so the Acro case to me seems to hinge around the idea that he was around at deadline but didn’t really show any interest in convincing Palmar not to lynch sent. I personally don’t think it’s alignment indicative so meh
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:31 GMT
#5358
On March 08 2019 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:21 Acrofales wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh btw from now on i am gonna be a little bitch and report all "offences" to hosts because they can be hurstful to a soul of some person..... so no swearing, no anything else. inbetween tl rules you idiots. i am done with me getting all the shit for nothing.


You know what always cheers me up?

Sifaka lemurs:
+ Show Spoiler +

Look at em.
Lovely things.


That did cheer me up

Lets go back to this:
On March 07 2019 22:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:37 Acrofales wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm leaning heavily towards a scum read on BH right now. The more he posts the more scummy his motivations seem to be. His attacks on hf look as if he has made them up on the spot in an effort to try and paint hf as mafia, rather than coming to natural conclusions about hf from available evidence.

The best example of this is the following post:

On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?

Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.

In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea

Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me


This is pure speculation and I like how creative it is, but it is not evidence.

He then refers back to this as 'compelling' a few posts later, but as we can see it isn't compelling its a rather badly shoehorned piece of fiction, designed to create an mirage.

On March 06 2019 18:31 Blazinghand wrote:


Whatever the particulars of the bad Palmar scumread, I still think this is easily the most compelling reason for the HF scum case:

On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?

Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.

In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea

Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me


HF has largely abandoned his provably false ideas of "well, I couldn't change the mayor lynch" given the way the mayor lynch is received mechanically and the fact he was in thread and watched and commented on the shenannnies as they went down. Just for killing Palmar is he scum? eh, maybe not. But for lying about it, then slithering away from the lie when called out? oh yeah baby

Ok, so what is the point of town!HF to claim a fake vig shot? I didn't incorporate it in my case, because it's mostly wifom, but I really don't see it:

1. He made a big play and it backfired spectacularly.
2. He makes another big play just for shit and giggles? WTF?

Now, lets say BH had gotten vig'd. We'd have a townie counterclaiming the vig shot, and today would have been an even bigger shitshow. Lynch all liars is a damned good policy for a reason, because even if townies *do* do this kind of stupid shit, it is blatantly anti-town play. And the *second* time HF does a big anti-town play in the same damn game.


That's true, but doesn't say anything about the point I am making. This story BH is telling is meaningless, as if he needed something completely made up to emphasize his argument for some reason.
Also, if we are lynching people for anti-town play, what about the whole of D1/N1 from BH? Blatant anti-town play that has no upside or no possible upside for town.

You say BH is scummy for making up a narrative. While the narrative is of course pure speculation, it's just a funny way of presenting the problem here:

FACT: HF claimed vigilante
FACT: HF is not a vigilante
CONCLUSION: HF fakeclaimed vigilante.

So there are two options: HF is town and fakeclaimed vigilante, or HF is scum and fakeclaimed vigilante.

You seem to lean towards it being town!HF fakeclaiming vigilante, because in his own words, he was adding "suspense" around the daypost. I mean.. sure, he has shown so far that HF only really cares about HF, so he might just have done it for the shit of it, but you ignored the whole conundrum of my post earlier. How do you explain town!HF not even thinking that there was a real vig that would really shoot BH?



I mean... who cares if there was a real vig? I could just rescind my claim or get killed which, again, would make my position a 1 for 1 trade if I survived somehow (which I wouldn't in this case) which I would never like.

Yeah hf has 100% done this shit in a game where there was an actual vig so that’s not really anything
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:40 GMT
#5364
On March 08 2019 03:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Blazinghand (11): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, AMG, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock
Holyflare (9): Acrofales, Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Vivax, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Fecalfeast, Ace
Ace (2): Jockmcplop, Tumblewood
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Acrofales (1): raynpelikoneet
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Damdred (1): Meapak_Ziphh

Not voting (4): Damdred, Chezinu, ExO_, darthfoley

Blazinghand is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Friday, Mar 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .

Any town people who aren’t on either BH or Holyflare are actively playing against their wincon btw?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:48 GMT
#5368
On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia


I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts:

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense.


Then

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.


Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it.

Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!!

This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia.



I see that you and I have different definitions of funny then, whatever.

I’m wrong about that, carry on
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:50 GMT
#5370
On March 08 2019 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Blazinghand (11): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, AMG, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock
Holyflare (9): Acrofales, Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Vivax, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Fecalfeast, Ace
Ace (2): Jockmcplop, Tumblewood
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Acrofales (1): raynpelikoneet
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Damdred (1): Meapak_Ziphh

Not voting (4): Damdred, Chezinu, ExO_, darthfoley

Blazinghand is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Friday, Mar 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .

Any town people who aren’t on either BH or Holyflare are actively playing against their wincon btw?

Not to say anything that would discourage people from voting HF (and thus saving me, who I know to be town) - but presumably some people strongly TR both me and HF. I'm sure there's scum in the 10 people not on either wagon, of course, but I could see someone having a reasonable reason here. I've certainly felt doubts about this HF wagon, and if I start townreading HF I'm going to move my vote off him. It really gets my goat if these poeple voting side votes aren't around at the end of the day though. Even if you TR both of us, presumably there's one you think is more town than the other...

You don’t understand.
Either you or holyflare is getting lynched today at this point, there’s nothing else strong enough.
everyone town needs to lynch who they think is the least town or most mafia between the two of you.
Lynches are the town’s power but if there is a significant amount of people off wagon then it becomes the mafia power because they have the numbers to manipulate it their favor.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 19:51 GMT
#5371
On March 08 2019 04:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia


I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts:

On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense.


Then

On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.


Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it.

Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!!

This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia.



I see that you and I have different definitions of funny then, whatever.

I’m wrong about that, carry on

Also I’m like assuming that if you have great statisfsction it’s because you found scum, not because your teammate was wrong but yeah, carry on dude
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 20:00 GMT
#5379
On March 08 2019 04:58 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi

If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia


I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts:

On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense.


Then

On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off.


Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it.

Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!!

This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia.




Explain this trap like I'm 5 because I don't get it.

I think it’s the part where he implied that he thought wiggles was scum but he never actually thought he was scum and I thought that he thought that wriggles was scum so I got caught oh noo
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 20:02 GMT
#5382
On March 08 2019 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 08 2019 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Blazinghand (11): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, AMG, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock
Holyflare (9): Acrofales, Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Vivax, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Fecalfeast, Ace
Ace (2): Jockmcplop, Tumblewood
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Acrofales (1): raynpelikoneet
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Damdred (1): Meapak_Ziphh

Not voting (4): Damdred, Chezinu, ExO_, darthfoley

Blazinghand is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Friday, Mar 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .

Any town people who aren’t on either BH or Holyflare are actively playing against their wincon btw?

Not to say anything that would discourage people from voting HF (and thus saving me, who I know to be town) - but presumably some people strongly TR both me and HF. I'm sure there's scum in the 10 people not on either wagon, of course, but I could see someone having a reasonable reason here. I've certainly felt doubts about this HF wagon, and if I start townreading HF I'm going to move my vote off him. It really gets my goat if these poeple voting side votes aren't around at the end of the day though. Even if you TR both of us, presumably there's one you think is more town than the other...

You don’t understand.
Either you or holyflare is getting lynched today at this point, there’s nothing else strong enough.
everyone town needs to lynch who they think is the least town or most mafia between the two of you.

Lynches are the town’s power but if there is a significant amount of people off wagon then it becomes the mafia power because they have the numbers to manipulate it their favor.


@Acro

See, Oats gets it xD

Though tbf if I strongly felt someone was scum I'd push it. Rels being so pissed off at me (I do not accept this is always a town role as an argument when it's demonstrably not) makes me less inclined to push that.

When have you seen it as a mafia role?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 20:09 GMT
#5390
On March 08 2019 05:06 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 08 2019 05:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Blazinghand (11): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, AMG, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock
Holyflare (9): Acrofales, Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Vivax, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Fecalfeast, Ace
Ace (2): Jockmcplop, Tumblewood
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Acrofales (1): raynpelikoneet
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Damdred (1): Meapak_Ziphh

Not voting (4): Damdred, Chezinu, ExO_, darthfoley

Blazinghand is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Friday, Mar 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .

Any town people who aren’t on either BH or Holyflare are actively playing against their wincon btw?

Not to say anything that would discourage people from voting HF (and thus saving me, who I know to be town) - but presumably some people strongly TR both me and HF. I'm sure there's scum in the 10 people not on either wagon, of course, but I could see someone having a reasonable reason here. I've certainly felt doubts about this HF wagon, and if I start townreading HF I'm going to move my vote off him. It really gets my goat if these poeple voting side votes aren't around at the end of the day though. Even if you TR both of us, presumably there's one you think is more town than the other...

You don’t understand.
Either you or holyflare is getting lynched today at this point, there’s nothing else strong enough.
everyone town needs to lynch who they think is the least town or most mafia between the two of you.

Lynches are the town’s power but if there is a significant amount of people off wagon then it becomes the mafia power because they have the numbers to manipulate it their favor.


@Acro

See, Oats gets it xD

Though tbf if I strongly felt someone was scum I'd push it. Rels being so pissed off at me (I do not accept this is always a town role as an argument when it's demonstrably not) makes me less inclined to push that.

When have you seen it as a mafia role?


Oh god big...themedish game. Was in one with scum, yup. People like masoning me. I think LS mentioned the name. My chipmunk brain is useless. I think marv was scum in it with palmar?

Btw specifically a mafia mason that can add anyone in the game on successive nights
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2019 20:11 GMT
#5394
On March 08 2019 05:07 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 08 2019 04:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2019 03:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Blazinghand (11): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, AMG, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock
Holyflare (9): Acrofales, Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Vivax, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Fecalfeast, Ace
Ace (2): Jockmcplop, Tumblewood
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Acrofales (1): raynpelikoneet
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Damdred (1): Meapak_Ziphh

Not voting (4): Damdred, Chezinu, ExO_, darthfoley

Blazinghand is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Friday, Mar 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .

Any town people who aren’t on either BH or Holyflare are actively playing against their wincon btw?

Not to say anything that would discourage people from voting HF (and thus saving me, who I know to be town) - but presumably some people strongly TR both me and HF. I'm sure there's scum in the 10 people not on either wagon, of course, but I could see someone having a reasonable reason here. I've certainly felt doubts about this HF wagon, and if I start townreading HF I'm going to move my vote off him. It really gets my goat if these poeple voting side votes aren't around at the end of the day though. Even if you TR both of us, presumably there's one you think is more town than the other...

You don’t understand.
Either you or holyflare is getting lynched today at this point, there’s nothing else strong enough.
everyone town needs to lynch who they think is the least town or most mafia between the two of you.

Lynches are the town’s power but if there is a significant amount of people off wagon then it becomes the mafia power because they have the numbers to manipulate it their favor.


@Acro

See, Oats gets it xD

Though tbf if I strongly felt someone was scum I'd push it. Rels being so pissed off at me (I do not accept this is always a town role as an argument when it's demonstrably not) makes me less inclined to push that.

Nah, this just means mafia will pile onto one of the wagons instead of hiding elsewhere as we just defined a rule: if you're off-wagon, you're scum. So scum hides by being on the wagon. If they're both scum, they bus (as there literally isn't another option). If one is town and the other scum, they try to avoid bussing. And if both are town they just lurk and comply.

There is no point in forcing consolidation in a plurality lynch.

Actually that’s not the point. The point is to get all the town people either voting for hf or blazing hand, preferably hf.
No gg, No skill.
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