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Also Mocsta; saying "palmar lynch oats and whoever that was after i get lynched" is faaaaaar from trying to convince palmar to change his mayor lynch target.
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Which ones do we agree on (not putting acro here);
- ace, the thing you sais
- bh, no need to explain(?)
- wiggles, uninterested in game solving, also had this weird post defending acro for me attacking vocal player (called it fear mongering), then in same post says dont lynch ace because we have bigger fish to fry rofl
- sicklucker; imo too calm and had the susp post about reducing mafia kp which imo points out towards scum because whenever i feel like he has extra information he is scum (or blue but not blue here)
- onegu; always interested in my alignment or^and what i think of him when he is town. Now zero, nada
Idk who else
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BC or Meapak i think assuming 7 mafia.
Soneone had a point on BC (contradiction from him?), what was ot?
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Sentinel i think is town. When i was mafia wiith him (the infamous Noir game where you fakeclaimed medic twice) he had serious issues putting together even ANY single post. I basically played the game for him. I can see why people think he is scummy even after he read his role but i think even that is out of his mafia posting range.
Others no idea. At the start of the game i thought exo is town but i havent revisited him since and i dont remember anything from any of those ppl.
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On March 07 2019 11:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sentinel i think is town. When i was mafia wiith him (the infamous Noir game where you fakeclaimed medic twice) he had serious issues putting together even ANY single post. I basically played the game for him. I can see why people think he is scummy even after he read his role but i think even that is out of his mafia posting range. My ass you did
Well obviously not completely but i told you numerous times on how go engage the thread and shit. Ofc everyone is capable of writing posts within guidelines.
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On March 07 2019 11:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 11:20 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2019 11:12 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta, Ace is really scummy and I would Lynch him after hf and bh die. So I was like he’s too scummy to be scum but then I was like he’s really scummy though and then I was like if I remove his name would I lynch and then I was like yeah so yeah he mafia Hi oats, one more thing please. Do you think HF and BH are both scum? I can see a world where you want one of HF/BH over Ace. but I dont understand why both. Why not? Bh was useless, lamp was like let’s go and everyone followed then bh marytred but in the end, holyflare didn’t mayor kill BH so why can’t they both be mafia? if you could mayor lynch one of HF/BH right now. Do you think one is more likely to flip scum? I'm reading acro's big post and I'm not finding any fault with the logic yet. So on one hand I now have a read read on HF but on the other hand the entire case is predicated on BH being scum. I don't see anything redeeming with BH at the moment either (especially after admitting that as town he fights to avoid getting mislynched - this game definitely felt like it was done for him rather than him doing the fighting). I think at this point lynching HF would be more beneficial to town based on at least D1/early N1 actions. I haven't been around for a lot of the last two days but it seems HF was outright malicious whereas BH has kinda been playing dumb. So I'm voting HF. ##Vote: Holyflare
What acro post are you talking about?
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On March 07 2019 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:I don't see it really. He doesn't seem entirely incapable of writing a post in that game and seems to be enjoying himself in the scum QT from that game: + Show Spoiler +
Actually you are right. I remembered i influenced his posting more. Must have mixed him up with stutters. I will read Sentinel more carefully once home.
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On March 07 2019 11:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 11:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2019 11:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 07 2019 11:20 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2019 11:12 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta, Ace is really scummy and I would Lynch him after hf and bh die. So I was like he’s too scummy to be scum but then I was like he’s really scummy though and then I was like if I remove his name would I lynch and then I was like yeah so yeah he mafia Hi oats, one more thing please. Do you think HF and BH are both scum? I can see a world where you want one of HF/BH over Ace. but I dont understand why both. Why not? Bh was useless, lamp was like let’s go and everyone followed then bh marytred but in the end, holyflare didn’t mayor kill BH so why can’t they both be mafia? if you could mayor lynch one of HF/BH right now. Do you think one is more likely to flip scum? I'm reading acro's big post and I'm not finding any fault with the logic yet. So on one hand I now have a read read on HF but on the other hand the entire case is predicated on BH being scum. I don't see anything redeeming with BH at the moment either (especially after admitting that as town he fights to avoid getting mislynched - this game definitely felt like it was done for him rather than him doing the fighting). I think at this point lynching HF would be more beneficial to town based on at least D1/early N1 actions. I haven't been around for a lot of the last two days but it seems HF was outright malicious whereas BH has kinda been playing dumb. So I'm voting HF. ##Vote: Holyflare What acro post are you talking about? https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=226#4503https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=226#4503
That is a terrible post and none of it makes hf mafia. He would have been lying aboit host actions which os something hf never does in million years. Also why are you voting for him if yoi think he os ONLY mafia IF bh is? Thats not how it works dude..
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On March 07 2019 11:50 Rels wrote:
rayn how strong is your HF townread?
Quite strong
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On March 07 2019 12:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 11:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2019 11:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 07 2019 11:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2019 11:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 07 2019 11:20 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2019 11:12 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta, Ace is really scummy and I would Lynch him after hf and bh die. So I was like he’s too scummy to be scum but then I was like he’s really scummy though and then I was like if I remove his name would I lynch and then I was like yeah so yeah he mafia Hi oats, one more thing please. Do you think HF and BH are both scum? I can see a world where you want one of HF/BH over Ace. but I dont understand why both. Why not? Bh was useless, lamp was like let’s go and everyone followed then bh marytred but in the end, holyflare didn’t mayor kill BH so why can’t they both be mafia? if you could mayor lynch one of HF/BH right now. Do you think one is more likely to flip scum? I'm reading acro's big post and I'm not finding any fault with the logic yet. So on one hand I now have a read read on HF but on the other hand the entire case is predicated on BH being scum. I don't see anything redeeming with BH at the moment either (especially after admitting that as town he fights to avoid getting mislynched - this game definitely felt like it was done for him rather than him doing the fighting). I think at this point lynching HF would be more beneficial to town based on at least D1/early N1 actions. I haven't been around for a lot of the last two days but it seems HF was outright malicious whereas BH has kinda been playing dumb. So I'm voting HF. ##Vote: Holyflare What acro post are you talking about? https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=226#4503https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=226#4503 That is a terrible post and none of it makes hf mafia. He would have been lying aboit host actions which os something hf never does in million years. Also why are you voting for him if yoi think he os ONLY mafia IF bh is? Thats not how it works dude.. Again, with exhibit A in particular I don't see why HF wouldn't switch his vote onto BH if there was a strong chance BH wouldn't've been lynched due to personal business or otherwise and then claim he would've if he could've
I dont understand
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Ace why didnt you take any part in discussion eod while being well aware where the votes are? Also you clearly read the thread so how come you missed the fact hf is gonna lynch palmar because he said so in just aboit every post? And dont give that "i thought he was faking it" because that is bullshit.
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On March 07 2019 12:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh sicklucker is scum too
I am interested in your reasoning
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What os the post in question and where does sentinel clearly do that? I cant see it.
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On March 07 2019 12:54 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:46 Rels wrote:On March 07 2019 12:40 Grackaroni wrote:On March 07 2019 12:17 Rels wrote:So: On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. On March 06 2019 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..."
That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc.
meh. Maybe. It's kinda weak Honestly I've been mostly going just off Palmar/Marv's take on Sentinel for my read so far but I'm wading into his filter now and it's really not pretty. Read here: On March 03 2019 00:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Stale takes by this point but I have town reads on TT and myself and I'm behind vigging Exo
@rsoultin I'm pretty sure Chez shitposts in every thread regardless of alignment. What makes him scum in this particular case? His read on TT is In line with thread sentiment as he said in the post. Later in his big reads post he drops a scum read on TT based off the same early game posts that he already read when he called TT town the first time. (note the timestamps.) + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:7) TictockI'll be happy voting for him if only to get him to stop putting all his reads in spoilers Here are some of his noteworthy takes Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:30 Tictock wrote:Meap seems very Mafia to me on this page, he even does this "Guide me Senpai" thing with HF that I hate. On March 02 2019 10:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sheeeeiiiit this is more quality analysis I can get behind
Is lightingstrike scum too HF? Gut wants me to vote Meap, so vote Meap I shall. I agree with this for the same reason. More on this in my Meapak DD in the next post Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 14:44 Tictock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Ehh, I can't make up my mind what I want to say about this, I agree with him (which typically gives me townfeels for Damdred) but this feels like an easy, "free" read and post from Damdred. For some reason was noteworty to me... idk. Dam Trfel... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
For real though trfl why do you say 7? Honestly, just guessing. Seems like the right number, that or six, I'd rather overestimate than underestimate. As to why, I figured it would be eye-catching  You said(typed) it with such confidence though, I Believed... + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote:
LS is town, that is all.
You got that from him saying that he's always town? I know because I'm masons with ls. Ok... Damdred Probs town. + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+ I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned. Holyflare, Great detective work! I would love to have you on my team as lead investigator! I will be sure that the corporate office hear of this amazing discovery! Best, ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vDCUUiL.png?2) Chezinu Isunizehc Why does this game irrelevant post get praise from you Chez? + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Me and Damdred aren't masons even though I wish we were masons  Honest to a fault... Totes town.
Willing to give solid townleans on Trefl and LS, and a minor townlean on Damdred thus far. I've also got a bit of a gutread on FF at this point, but I'm not sharing it yet. What's interesting here is that the foundation of all of this is LS's first three posts. I don't know which three posts qualify but up to the "me and Damdred aren't masons" LS has posted nothing of substance, town or not. Damdy is town because he agrees with LS. He's masons with LS and LS is town so they can't be scum together. Oops LS isn't a mason but LS is town and Damdy is still town because he said LS is town. His justification is Show nested quote +LS can be a hard player to read, but all these posts are honest sadness that people are starting to play for real and not just joke around and shoot the breeze as many recent games have started.
Not saying I have some kinda God-Read on him or anything, but that is how I try to and what I get from those posts. So all of his town reads by association come from a belief that LS is honest. And that belief is predicated on the fact that LS was joking around. Show nested quote +HF seems to be posting to post and I don't like it, but it's not really a scum read right now. It's just him coasting.
Speaking of my Watch List, I think it's something like this right now:
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HF (just not comfortable with him just floating around the game making no impact, yet being relatively present) I think this is colored by TT's dislike of HF Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 13:47 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I came, I saw, I did some things. Seems like ppl are not around so gunna do other things. May check in once more before bed but I am pretty sure I am not going to fully read the stuff I missed.
I'd like someone who is wanting to lynch oats to convince me why he is scum.
Similarly as to why ppl are voting HF for mayor.
If deadline was right now/soon I would push for Meap or Grack to lynch. I don't like this post because he started with a gutread on her and acted off that information throughout the game, leading to the conclusion: rsoultin is town. It cheapens the value of all the evidence he posts afterward to support the fact rsoultin is town. Leaning red man did TT really post nothing between these 2 posts ??? this is looking mych better Everything that Sentinel later quotes for TT being scum occur before Sentinel town reads him. The one thing I'll say is that he takes a hard stance towards LS in his big post and maybe that causes him to re-evaluate, but I'm still pretty suspicious of his town read in the first place then if he dislikes those posts so much.
Okay that is quite damning.
Sentinel explain?
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On March 07 2019 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like mocsta dropped his scum read on ace far too quickly even though ace just made a few incongruous false statements.
Mocsta's reasoning is good.
So you don't still think Acrofales is mafia?
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well my work here is done.
Grackaroni i kinda believe Sentinel about the TT thing. It once again comes down to if he read his role PM or not (aka the Palmar case, if Sentinel is lying or not), and i don't think he is lying.
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Acrofales doesn't actually read. he didn't even read why rsoutlin (or me) scumread Palmar when that was his backbone of case on rsoultin. That should tell you much.
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On March 07 2019 19:08 Vivax wrote:
Rayn actually believes that not reading everything is alignment indicative this game lmao.
No i dont but i sure do believe townies should be reading enough to make sure the reason you call someone mafia for even actually exists...
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On March 07 2019 19:49 Vivax wrote:
Oh yeah jock and TS are mafia too.
That'd make a HF, BH, rsoultin, rayn, jock, TS, mocsta team.
I will remember this post post game Vivax.
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