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On June 14 2018 08:08 Mocsta wrote: acknowledged... vindiction  but i prefer koshiwho came out to play when kitaman was in pressure.. koshi who did koshi target.. kitaman primary voter.. me maybe kita/koshi/iamp is possible too. slenderman also comes to my mind rels is still unknown need to recheck why ksc chose iamp over kitaman too on that note, adios On June 15 2018 07:13 Mocsta wrote: pool is def there. i think with the kita lynch, this could be auto? On June 15 2018 07:38 Mocsta wrote: ohh yeah forgot about you. ok, pool of 5 i dont htink is auto. makes more sense. On June 16 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote: Hi guys On June 16 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote: I really liked koshi obsercation about same reads as tubesock but different alignments so neither is in my pool. Slender i cant tell is a hipster thinker or turning bullshit stones for thr sake of it. Def not enough for me to consider this cycle. Iamp is trash on the same level as rels. I dont agree with comments that kita intentionally ignored iamp as buddies. The other side of the WIFOM is that s an analytical player i suspect its within kita spectrum to consider that he would be hammered. Thus if he voted iamp to save homself it would confirm iamp. Instead once i vote myself he releases a case to try and flow to me as his prior scum read. So voting for me today is either ksc or hf. Ksc has followed thread sentiment in a sterile way and didnt seem to really want to lynch kitaman. Theres also the odd joke post early game from kota which could be scum banter. My issue with hf all stems this cycle. Since the flip he isnt actively reevaluating and forcing his will like i know him too when town. Instrad no matter what is happening, he still trys to twist actions into me = scum. No reconsideration. Just subtle "dont forget about mocsta". Or the just ad simplr iamp is scum eith no consideration for what i mentioned prior. On June 16 2018 07:35 Mocsta wrote: Ezcellent point and aligns eith what i mentioned too Totally can see kita / hf / ksc as a unit On that note. Its the weekend. Will be back later but aus v france tonight so.... sorry. Priorities On June 16 2018 08:45 Mocsta wrote: by accident ,yes you did. You vote swapped tk iamp and it didnt count. The person you are pushing, conveniently On June 16 2018 09:38 Mocsta wrote: Thats as silly an argument as you are purporting for kita avoiding iamp Sometimes regarsleas of desire, things can happen outside our control. On June 16 2018 09:55 Mocsta wrote: dud3 It could have been as easy as you and kita were arguing how to proceed and he demanded the vote swap to iamp which you did late Theory mongering aside Its actually very impressive the conviction and coordination needed to land 2 votes on the phone in less than 1 minute On June 16 2018 10:12 Mocsta wrote: Perfect Give a read on slender pls On June 16 2018 10:28 Mocsta wrote: iamp, what has slenderman being maybe a smurf got to do with being "maybe town" On June 16 2018 22:52 Mocsta wrote: ##vote: holyflare No new reasons to add This is every post mocsta has posted this cycle. It's almost none (like 10 posts max?). Mocsta has based his whole game on scum reading his partner so that when that's done he's left very much in the dark on who to scum read next. It's very evidence that he's just clutching at straws the whole time. I'll take you through the journey: On June 14 2018 08:08 Mocsta wrote: acknowledged... vindiction but i prefer koshiwho came out to play when kitaman was in pressure.. koshi who did koshi target.. kitaman primary voter.. me maybe kita/koshi/iamp is possible too. slenderman also comes to my mind rels is still unknown need to recheck why ksc chose iamp over kitaman too on that note, adios Mocsta's scum team coming fresh out of the kita lynch is kita/koshi/iamp with slenderman/rels/ksc as back ups. Not awful list. Notice how Iamp features prominently here based on absolutely nothing. Have you seen a reason to scum read iamp that makes him the main person mocsta thinks is mafia? I sure haven't. On June 15 2018 07:38 Mocsta wrote: ohh yeah forgot about you. ok, pool of 5 i dont htink is auto. makes more sense. Slender asks why he isn't in mocsta's pool and mocsta replies to it with the above. This is a critical misplay by Mocsta. It shows he doesn't even know who is in his list, it shows that he isn't thinking critically about people that could be mafia. It shows that he hasn't followed up on his previous read that slenderman should be the lynch tomorrow if he dies. Slenderman is already in his fucking list! So, now that we have that out of the way let's move on to pretty much the NEXT post from mocsta where he makes a big list post effectively eliminating some people from his lynch pool today. On June 16 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote: I really liked koshi obsercation about same reads as tubesock but different alignments so neither is in my pool. Slender i cant tell is a hipster thinker or turning bullshit stones for thr sake of it. Def not enough for me to consider this cycle. Iamp is trash on the same level as rels. I dont agree with comments that kita intentionally ignored iamp as buddies. The other side of the WIFOM is that s an analytical player i suspect its within kita spectrum to consider that he would be hammered. Thus if he voted iamp to save homself it would confirm iamp. Instead once i vote myself he releases a case to try and flow to me as his prior scum read. So voting for me today is either ksc or hf. Ksc has followed thread sentiment in a sterile way and didnt seem to really want to lynch kitaman. Theres also the odd joke post early game from kota which could be scum banter. My issue with hf all stems this cycle. Since the flip he isnt actively reevaluating and forcing his will like i know him too when town. Instrad no matter what is happening, he still trys to twist actions into me = scum. No reconsideration. Just subtle "dont forget about mocsta". Or the just ad simplr iamp is scum eith no consideration for what i mentioned prior. Let's break this down for the hot garbage it is. Koshi's observation on tubesock that tubesock shares the same reads as him but gets called mafia is so good that it's enough for koshi to fall completely out of Mocsta's scum list. This is the Koshi that mocsta has scum read all of day 2 with kita and said came to defend kita. He is not mafia because he made a simple observation about reads. This is from Mocsta who I have most definitely seen say the words "just because we share the same reads doesn't mean I town read you or scum read you" so by his very own definition in another game this is NOT a good observation. He doesn't agree with my comments about kita ignoring iamp if they are both mafia. Okay, that's fair. Then he makes up a narrative that could happen. Okay, that's fair. Why does that make iamp any alignment though? It weighs nothing one way or another because mafia could do ANYTHING in that scenario since my point and Mocsta's points are both valid scenarios. So why does Iamp now fall out of his scum list? Kelsier is a crappy no content poster that has posted so many wrong things the entirety of the game, obviously he gets mentioned as a free mislynch if he's town. (His filter has kind of towny sparks imo). Slender goes from being definitely lynch to not being lynched even though Mocsta says he could still be scummy. So many options being kept open here. Now there's me. I have not featured in his scum lists once this entire game. Mocsta has eliminated his scum list from Koshi/Iamp/Kita/Slender/KSC/rels to simply me/ksc. How? Look at these last few lines: My issue with hf all stems this cycle. Since the flip he isnt actively reevaluating and forcing his will like i know him too when town. Instrad no matter what is happening, he still trys to twist actions into me = scum. No reconsideration. Just subtle "dont forget about mocsta". Or the just ad simplr iamp is scum eith no consideration for what i mentioned prior. His scum list is 90% afkers and lurkers so why should I be reevaluating when my vote is on one of the people that was in his scum list? Not to mention, I did actually evaluate to reach my lynch target by way of the kita/iamp interactions to assume we should lynch iamp. Even if iamp is town then we learn a lot about the deadline and what happened and what mafia were thinking and that's a lot of information. So, yeah, it's the weekend, I'm not posting that often (I think I've still posted a shit tonne since the flip) and I've called mocsta mafia (which hasn't changed throughout the whole game) yet I end up there in his list (even the person he wants to lynch the MOST!) for no actual reason other than "JUST SIMPLE LYNCH IAMP WITH NO CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT I MENTIONED PRIOR". BUT HE DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING PRIOR OTHER THAN IN THIS POST. AND I EXPLAINED WHY IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. EVEN THEN WHY DOES ME AFKING ON IAMP MAKE ME MAFIA OVER ANY OF HIS LIST OR ANY OF THE LURKERS. IT DOESN'T. I AM A FABRICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at absolutely everything he writes AFTER this post. It's absolutely ALL a narrative about why I am mafia and what I did that makes me mafia at the deadline. I conveniently did nothing to save my partner. I fucked up the timing and lynched my partner. I had an argument with kitamin and I wanted to bus but he wanted me to save him. How fucking farfetched is this bull shit that he's trying to push. No koshi. No iamp. No kelsier. No slender. Just me, simply because. No rhyme or reason, just the next mislynch. | ||
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he fucking scum read koshi rels | ||
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mocsta self votes at a time when he's not going to die (and can't even self vote anyway) and at a time where the vote actually stops kita being a majority why does he self vote to prove his second biggest mafia read wrong? | ||
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On June 17 2018 05:55 Grackaroni wrote: I know what HF's been up to today. If the answer is anything other than whisky and masturbation you'd be wrong. | ||
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On June 17 2018 05:26 Holyflare wrote: by the way koshi you should read this page, it's pretty much a carbon copy of this game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=104#2064 On June 17 2018 05:28 Holyflare wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=33#641 and this page because it summarises mocsta this game so well and I was correct there too these 2 games are hilariously on point by the way, definitely read these two pages | ||
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On June 17 2018 06:10 Rels wrote: Mafia kills people that scumread them. Mafia don't kill people they pocket. This makes no sense. This makes as little sense as you scumreading rayn during D2 when rayn never kills Superiba N1. Superbia was 100% either a rayn or a Mocsta kill. I also did not scum read rayn for that kill, I just simply said it was likely one of them that did it. With a preference for Mocsta because he did those weird kills as mafia a few games ago and even said he'd make a kill that wouldn't change the game state to further his agenda. He had the most to gain from it. In hindsight, it made sense for kita to kill superbia because it didn't change the game state and he could keep scum reading rayn and hope that I push him with him + medic dodge. | ||
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On June 17 2018 06:15 Koshi wrote: From the people playing the game I would agree. But you don't think there is a chance last 2 mafia are just afk? he needs to make an excuse to jump on the highest wagon | ||
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Means nothing to his actual alignment though, he could well be mafia. | ||
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if you say so it's called an opinion, if it's wrong then it's a wrong opinion but it was my opinion that it was either rayn or mocsta you're just arguing about an irrelevant point tbh | ||
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