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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 15 2018 23:38 GMT
#20
/in

to show how long it takes for TL Mafia games to fill up
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 15 2018 23:38 GMT
#21
also what is a "Backup?"
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 16 2018 18:02 GMT
#67
/confirm
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 16 2018 18:03 GMT
#68
Don't think i've played in a game this large since the Star Wars Mafia game in 2015-2016 or something lol. Excited!

Also welcome back ExO, long time no see bredren!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 16 2018 18:14 GMT
#69
but can we get to 20? hmmm
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 17 2018 16:01 GMT
#84
On March 18 2018 00:53 sicklucker wrote:
/in


he's alive
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 18 2018 02:49 GMT
#94
I wish you assholes were like me and loved weekend starts. Itching to read those first 7 pages of thread
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 03:16 GMT
#103
On March 19 2018 09:47 Half the Sky wrote:
/obs


you should play sometime!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 18:36 GMT
#117
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 22:42 GMT
#126
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 23:25 GMT
#166
'Ello there!

Me names Chestah Campbell hired by Churchill 'imself!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 23:27 GMT
#168
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


Looks like this chap 'ere as a 'ead on his shoulders
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 23:31 GMT
#170
If anyone can point Sir Campbell to the location of a missing shipment of small arms Birmingham Small Arms Company factory, 'e'd be most appreciative
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 23:31 GMT
#171
On March 20 2018 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:17 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
I scum read kelsier for actually giving a shit


Is this joke or serious? if serious, can you give me some context?


Bit of both really. Already at double the filter length that he gets as town now.

Not true though.


Fite me

Normally i wouldn't bother but i don't wanna read pages of useless discussion when the game before the last one Kelsier had ~30 posts D1, managed to find 2 mafia in his 2 mafia reads, shot mafia on N1 and got shot on N1 so he is perfectly capable of trying and also playing well doing so. I don't know where you get what you're smoking since you played that game.


Me chest is still 'urtin from that vigilante shot
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 23:35 GMT
#174
On March 20 2018 08:21 Conversion wrote:
Let’s lynch n00bking


You got about 15-17 reason yet? If not I ain't interested
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 23:35 GMT
#175
On March 20 2018 08:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:31 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone can point Sir Campbell to the location of a missing shipment of small arms Birmingham Small Arms Company factory, 'e'd be most appreciative


Is this something you plan on doing for the entire game.

if so I would suggest not doing that


Oi m8, why don't you go on your merry way and i'll go about mine.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 19 2018 23:37 GMT
#177
On March 20 2018 08:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I think rayn has the best point so far by a long way,

mocsta has posted dumb shit and is definitely failing the fucktard test


You're so 'eated for no logical reason m8. Relax, and take a chill pill
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 00:02 GMT
#190
On March 20 2018 08:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:37 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I think rayn has the best point so far by a long way,

mocsta has posted dumb shit and is definitely failing the fucktard test


You're so 'eated for no logical reason m8. Relax, and take a chill pill


if i relax do I become as funny and not in anyway irritating as you?


Aye m8, if you relax you become as not irritating as signing up for games and then barely playing them after promising activity!

Poor form, old sport! Poor form!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 00:05 GMT
#191
On March 20 2018 08:56 Mocsta wrote:
Kelsier.

Guess mindmeld only works for ppl you like right..

how about fuck you & have a good sleep

Post 5 / 10



Tally ho ole fox! Echoing Chester Campbell's sentiments exactly
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 02:17 GMT
#249
On March 20 2018 10:57 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now you got me even more confused.



point 1. Your question of holyflares "read" on me is the best thing so far.

point 2. mocsta is making bad "fucktard" posts.



Rayn never made that second point did he? You’re putting words in his mouth and then agreeing with them....what I dont understand is why. I don’t like it — Scum reading Kelsier.

Though I’ll admit I’m not a fan of HF’s posts...I think HF is either VT or scum — not sure which.


Chester Campbell believes you lot got it all wrong! He finks Mocsta made foktard posts but that is irrelephant to da rayn idea m8
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 03:37 GMT
#281
On March 20 2018 11:28 Alakaslam wrote:


I AM ALSO A HYPOCRITE, biggest one on the forum


Chester Campbell likes you m8. Wants you as part of 'is Royal crime unit, aimed at rooting out corropshion 'n big boss crime.

Gwan Slam
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 03:45 GMT
#282
Chester Campbell believes he dun found some good folk to confide in as he rids the streets of petty 'n big boss crime.

The likes of Vivax, Alakaslam Mocsta and Conversion seem like good blokes, eager to help the coppers

Chester is keeping a wary eye out for any bad hombres
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 17:59 GMT
#491
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's javascript:addUBB_selected('reply_area', 'spoiler')problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.


Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:00 GMT
#492
On March 20 2018 21:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:33 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
[quote]

Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote....

I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him.


koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote.

I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too.

I can see you are not reading "super closely" again.

but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful.


On March 20 2018 10:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range.

##vote disformation

It's ok. You tried.


You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me.


ok then don't vote and talk about something else.

Honestly you are either scum or town with zero reading comprehension so you aren't that important.



+ Show Spoiler +
Just gonna let you know that you've been toxic as hell this whole game and you should probably stop
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:02 GMT
#493
On March 20 2018 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
I absolutely side with exo on this one. Koshi's post is not a reason and voting with it is bad. Sarcastic quips to belittle exo when he's doing nothing particularly wrong is bad.


+100.

Is Kelscier being a dick alignment indicative? Or is it more of a general state of being?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:02 GMT
#494
##Vote: KelscierSC
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:26 GMT
#500
I think HF and Vivax are probably town. ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.

I'm voting Kelscier partially because he's been the least enjoyable player so far, and partially because I think ExO made a fairly decent point that I agree with about Kelscier's vote on disformation. Of course, Kelscier just called him terrible and said that he didn't really matter.

Really proving TLMafia skeptics like Mocsta and n00bking wrong with posts like that!

I don't really see what rayn and rsoultin are saying about Slam. Don't have much recent experience with him but his posts strike me as they did last game.

I also agree with HF and Mocsta's assessment with n00bking this game. He just is sooo focused on semantics and nitty gritty details in a way that feels intentional-- as to intentionally miss the proverbial forest for the trees.

Things like this

On March 20 2018 17:34 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 15:56 rsoultin wrote:
Slam is not giving me the adorable aimless vibes. I usually love reading his posts and keeping him around. Might be scum.

Can you describe the difference between his posts in this game, and the last? I think you'd agree that if they aren't the same thing, they are at least *meant* to *look* like the same thing. So what's keeping them from looking like the same thing?


Like why does this matter? Idk and you don't either.

Lastly, I said Conversion was on Chester Campbell's good list earlier, but he's 'ad a change of 'eart. Conversion is now questionable.

n00bking/Kelscier/rsoultin/Conversion/rayn/Palmar are people of interest in Chester's investigation as of now.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:30 GMT
#501
regarding my last post on n00bking

On March 20 2018 17:34 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 15:56 rsoultin wrote:
Slam is not giving me the adorable aimless vibes. I usually love reading his posts and keeping him around. Might be scum.

Can you describe the difference between his posts in this game, and the last? I think you'd agree that if they aren't the same thing, they are at least *meant* to *look* like the same thing. So what's keeping them from looking like the same thing?


The bolded/underlined thing is a fine question and one that I actually appreciate. The red part just feels so over-explicatory. Maybe i'm just a more blunt person, but I think the red is just... inferred or implied by the first question.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:30 GMT
#502
On March 21 2018 03:26 darthfoley wrote:
I think HF and Vivax are probably town. ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.

I'm voting Kelscier partially because he's been the least enjoyable player so far, and partially because I think ExO made a fairly decent point that I agree with about Kelscier's vote on disformation. Of course, Kelscier just called him terrible and said that he didn't really matter.

Really proving TLMafia skeptics like Mocsta and n00bking wrong with posts like that!

I don't really see what rayn and rsoultin are saying about Slam. Don't have much recent experience with him but his posts strike me as they did last game.

I also agree with HF and Mocsta's assessment with n00bking this game. He just is sooo focused on semantics and nitty gritty details in a way that feels intentional-- as to intentionally miss the proverbial forest for the trees.

Things like this

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:34 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 15:56 rsoultin wrote:
Slam is not giving me the adorable aimless vibes. I usually love reading his posts and keeping him around. Might be scum.

Can you describe the difference between his posts in this game, and the last? I think you'd agree that if they aren't the same thing, they are at least *meant* to *look* like the same thing. So what's keeping them from looking like the same thing?


Like why does this matter? Idk and you don't either.

Lastly, I said Conversion was on Chester Campbell's good list earlier, but he's 'ad a change of 'eart. Conversion is now questionable.

n00bking/Kelscier/rsoultin/Conversion/rayn/Palmar are people of interest in Chester's investigation as of now.


Hate being the last post on a page. There you go
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:32 GMT
#503
On March 20 2018 13:02 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.


Lol, and you called my vote "super-terrible"

Honestly you seemed more interested in calling my vote on Exo bad then you care to explain how any of the people you are calling out here might be scum.

I also don't get why you feel ok sheeping Koshi who has literally only thrown out random votes but not interacted with the game, but feel the need to tell DF and Slam to stop and be productive.


Also appreciated this point from Ticktock on n00bking. Anyone who got in their feelings about good ole Chester Campbell appearing needs to have an Irish coffee and relax. It took a while but Chester got some bite
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:38 GMT
#505
I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.

I have disagreed with rsoultin on like 90% of everything up to this point so
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:39 GMT
#506
I've said my piece. Any more questions can be directed to Chester Campbell.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 18:56 GMT
#510
On March 21 2018 03:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 03:38 darthfoley wrote:
I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.

I have disagreed with rsoultin on like 90% of everything up to this point so


Yup, if you're town one of us is pretty wrong lol >< Why exactly did you ask about KSC if you weren't going to give any credence to a response, though?


Who said I wouldn't give it any credence?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 20:43 GMT
#548
On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 00:32 Conversion wrote:
I read some filters.

I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying.

I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform.


Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read

vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes.

Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with.

I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote.
pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list

----

Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post

---

apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer.
I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now.


FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh

----

I'd probably have a lynch pool of

dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy

does sicklucker not post d1 anymore?

obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on









Don't know what you're on about m8. Chester Campbell was but one of five blokes who said you were being angry and mean. Chester doesn't cry, he's a man's man.

Chester 'as 'ad quite a few original toughts. Not Chester's fault ye can't see what ye don't wish to see
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 20 2018 20:46 GMT
#551
On March 21 2018 05:43 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Darth , why is conversion not town anymore?


On my phone and I’m going to shamelessly hop on this and ask what made me town read in the first place.


I Town read you for big boy posts like this
On March 20 2018 10:40 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:26 Tictock wrote:
Ohhh, Free town read to Slam for posting some elctro-swing. One of my fav's too!

Bah gotta post content, trying not to spam.

So far I've only got a few weak town reads, and some sus on Exo, Conversion, and maybe KSC.

Exo and Conv seem to be calling out scum reads just kus they feel like they need to. Either not explaining or posting bad reasons for their scum reads.

KSC just jumping on anything he can, but at least he gave some indications why.


Bad thread entrance and his posts reek scum. He has a 4 post filter and all of his posts are scummy.

Also, I'm not calling out scum reads "cause I need to," I'm calling out scum because they are scum


Early on. Tonally it felt good and you were being blunt and a little rude.

But then you went and became the thread marriage counselor one too many times for my liking
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darthfoley
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March 20 2018 20:47 GMT
#552
On March 21 2018 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
@darth second question, regarding the point I made earlier on that ticktock just reposted. Why did you leave exo off town list ?


I left ExO the town list because my opinion of him decreased
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darthfoley
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March 20 2018 20:52 GMT
#555
Also @KSC, Chester has had an original blend of thoughts me finks.

Anovah game where he wake up to 8 pages of thread and people wonder why he happen to have reads that align with other people's reads. It's downright blasphemy
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March 20 2018 20:53 GMT
#558
On March 21 2018 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
On March 21 2018 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
@darth second question, regarding the point I made earlier on that ticktock just reposted. Why did you leave exo off town list ?


I left ExO the town list because my opinion of him decreased


what was it that decreased your opinion of him?


Detective Campbell recalls his posting quality dropping off from early to late yesterday. Better today.

Plus when others poked holes in his silly post about Moosy or whoever, Campbell decided to go back to his drawing board
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darthfoley
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March 20 2018 23:34 GMT
#607
I'm either very right this game or very wrong.

Only time shall tell.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 21 2018 01:06 GMT
#633
On March 21 2018 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
Are you an AI programmed to only talk in probabilities or what?


Indeed. I'm sick of hearing about what ONLY town does or what ONLY mafia does based on arbitrary "optimal" decision making according to nk
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 01:17 GMT
#636
On March 21 2018 10:13 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:
funny you mention skill because if you’re town you’re the one getting scum read, not me

but you’re scum and it’s really cute that you try to quantify skill at a forum mafia game as literally no one thinks you’re good LOL

lol, sure buddy. I'm not being scumread by a significant number of players. I'm not in the Noose right now, the number of votes on me are fewer than will be had by the eventual lynch, and there's a lot of time left in the Phase.

If the scum team isn't terrified of me yet, they WILL be. In all the years I've played this game, and in all the dozens of times I've played this game, I have still never ONCE been end-gamed as Town. If I'm Town, and the scum won, then I HAD to have been dead. The scum team MUST eliminate me themselves, or get the town to do it for them, because if I'm left alive, the mafia win percentage falls to ZERO.

As another player once put it, the only person who figures out the scum roster faster than I do, is the narrator.

It has also been more than four YEARS since any town team I was on accidentally mislynched or vig-shot me, and then managed to win without my help. It's never happened here. Town won when the scum team failed to kill me, and town won after the scum team night-killed me, but the one time I was mislynched, is my only Town loss here. (I voted against only two players in that game, and both were scum, but even after I was mislynched, Town didn't follow my votes quickly enough to win the game without me.)

If there are any players in this game more experienced than I am, there aren't many. And I expect there are none who could match my winning percentage.

But keep on running your mouth.


Wow dude, you're really good. People like you are what's going to make #TLMafiaGreatAgain. After all, there is WAY too much dick measuring and toxicity going on around here.


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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 01:19 GMT
#637
I do want to shout n00bking out for him revealing the dirty nature of TLMafia meta. With him leading us to victory by taking no stances on anything, he will surely increase his winrate and therefore the win rate of us all
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March 21 2018 01:26 GMT
#647
On March 21 2018 10:24 Mocsta wrote:
DF,
I preferred you in character.

Responding to that chatter is only satisfying NK agenda to avoid having to scum-hunt.
NK says "disfo/ykl are good targets to pressure" but at no points applies, said pressure.

My question for you is why arent you voting NK.


Chester Campbell is still around, but he's only necessary for some people in the thread
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 01:27 GMT
#648
On March 21 2018 10:24 Mocsta wrote:
DF,
I preferred you in character.

Responding to that chatter is only satisfying NK agenda to avoid having to scum-hunt.
NK says "disfo/ykl are good targets to pressure" but at no points applies, said pressure.

My question for you is why arent you voting NK.


I'll get there eventually. But i still don't think KSC is townie like everyone else seems to think so
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 01:31 GMT
#653
On March 21 2018 10:28 Mocsta wrote:
Moosy - You sexy Deer! Do me a favour and swap that vote from ExO to Noobking.

DF. you didnt answer the q.


Because I dont want KSC to be comfortable and theres still plenty of time to change
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 01:33 GMT
#657
On March 21 2018 10:30 Mocsta wrote:
Eventually lol.. i didnt think chester liked to tease?

Even if KSC is scum.
Who has a more likely filter to be scum? NK or KSC?

what is actually pinging you about KSC vs. him being abrasive?


will respond to this after my pubg game
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March 21 2018 03:36 GMT
#701
On March 21 2018 11:49 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:47 Tictock wrote:
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:

tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.


?

I don't give a shit you temp scum read me (for pretty meh reasons), and I'm leaning town on you atm.

Got bigger fish bro.

I am surprised you agree with the notion of leaving Moosy off the lynch block today though. Not that he is my top scum read or dying to lynch him myself, but I do think he has a pretty good chance of being mafia at this point.

Idk, just weird to see multiple people take this "ignore Moosy" stance.
I cant speak for others, but my opinion is 2-fold.

(1) Most trolling mafia dont have the balls to keep it up for an entire cycle. At some point there is a need to survive.
I dont know Moosy well enough to understand if this tell applies, but, i can give benefit of the doubt for 1 cycle.

(2) I am expecting between 4 and 5 mafia. Even if Moosy was mafia, i think there is enough content this Day1 to have a successful lynch outside moosy.

Your 2nd point is seriously ludicrous. Even if Moosy was Mafia, you think there's enough content in Day ONE to have a successful lynch on someone else? Why would a town player ever believe this? The odds of a successful Day 1 lynch are ALWAYS LOW. And any time a scum player is lynched on Day 1, it's always going to be their own fault, and not the result of some widespread super-sleuthing from the town players. Remember that time when a scum player was lynched on Day 1, not because they did something wrong, but because the town at large just played and cooperated so well together that the odds of a successful lynch actually tilted in their favor? No, neither does anyone else. In the history of ever.

Even if a town player had this kind of confidence (which they should not), they still should not speak of it. But certainly a mafia player would have reason to speak of it. It will decelerate discussion, and keep players from thinking for themselves.


Two games ago our town lynched three mafia in three days to win a perfect game. So yea, go do some research m8
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 03:37 GMT
#702
On March 21 2018 11:58 Mocsta wrote:
Cool story bruh,

From 6 weeks ago.
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 01:40 Skynx wrote:
Vendée Globe 16' Mafia

[Flips]
Day1: mderg, as Mafia Framer
Night1: Trfel, as VT
Day2: rsoultin, as Mafia Goon
Night2: Mocsta, as VT
Day3: Damdred, as Mafia Roleblocker


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Nominating our town in Vendée Globe 16' as "best town performance"

we lynched mafia d1, d2, and d3 to win the game in three days. With epic shennanies onto scum D3!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia


Hell yeah baby. Hell yeah
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 03:41 GMT
#703
On March 21 2018 12:14 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 11:58 Mocsta wrote:
Cool story bruh,

From 6 weeks ago.
On February 02 2018 01:40 Skynx wrote:
Vendée Globe 16' Mafia

[Flips]
Day1: mderg, as Mafia Framer
Night1: Trfel, as VT
Day2: rsoultin, as Mafia Goon
Night2: Mocsta, as VT
Day3: Damdred, as Mafia Roleblocker


On February 14 2018 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Nominating our town in Vendée Globe 16' as "best town performance"

we lynched mafia d1, d2, and d3 to win the game in three days. With epic shennanies onto scum D3!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia

I hope you don't think that's supposed to be contrary evidence? I can confidently expect that mderg was a fuckup in that game.


LoL. Literally every mafia caught ever fucked up in some way because they were lynched or vigi shot.

What a meaningless semantics to prove your e-peen.

You might actually be Town this game because of how dull of yourself you are compared to last game. Either way you're contributing to toxicity
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March 21 2018 03:54 GMT
#706
On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 00:32 Conversion wrote:
I read some filters.

I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying.

I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform.


Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read

vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes.

Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with.

I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote.
pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list

----

Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post

---

apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer.
I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now.



FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh

----

I'd probably have a lynch pool of

dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy

does sicklucker not post d1 anymore?

obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on



On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen.


yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided.

In terms of actual bad stuff. He liked a post that exo had made which wasn't that good.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:27 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


Looks like this chap 'ere as a 'ead on his shoulders


I can understand exo's defence of this post but I don't like the post in general.

he also leaves exo off his list of town afterwards

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:45 darthfoley wrote:
Chester Campbell believes he dun found some good folk to confide in as he rids the streets of petty 'n big boss crime.

The likes of Vivax, Alakaslam Mocsta and Conversion seem like good blokes, eager to help the coppers

Chester is keeping a wary eye out for any bad hombres


gives the impression that he doesn't really care who his town circle is and just wants to throw some names out.
I'd lynch him and not just to stop the terrible RP.


So Kelscier makes some post about me and how he doesn't want to build a case on me when he's been using any reason to scum read me. Chester actually agrees with n00bking that KSC scumreading Chester Campbell is just silly and excuse for a scum read.

Also him claiming that I have no original reads is factually inaccurate and just another excuse to throw shade at Chester Campbell. I'm one of the few people who isn't okay with rsoultin (btw did I just realize your name is "our sultan?") and Rayn.

Btw we should ban Rels for a couple games until he decides to play d1 again. Tired of this shit every game
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 03:55 GMT
#707
On March 21 2018 12:49 ExO_ wrote:
Still kinda want an explanation from KelsierSC regarding his initial disinfo vote. Really not satisfied with how he never gave me a proper answer as to his own reasoning for voting disinfo -- and again Koshi's quoting of Disinfo is not an explained reason.


Thanks for reminding me of the other point on KSC.

I didn't buy his explanation either. I'm tentatively gonna say you're Town
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 03:57 GMT
#708
Also KSC writes a lot about Conversion in that earlier post just to not give a read on him and not include him in the lynch list
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 03:58 GMT
#709
On March 21 2018 12:42 ExO_ wrote:
So far, getting really scummy feelings from rsoultin:

- Doesn't commit to a scum read except on slam (and even says doesn't expect other people to get it).
- Is okay with voting noob not because she thinks he's scum, but because his post makes her yawn? wtf reasoning is that.

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.

This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.

Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch.



Everything else rsoultin said came down to "tone". I don't know, I don't buy it. This rsoultin is very wishy washy and not the town-driving rsoultin I'd expect.

While I'm at it just general other reads from what little I've seen throughout the day via phone

HF - Town
Mocsta - Town

NK - Scummy


Okay dude we're mindmelding. I read that rsoultin yawn post at 6AM and I was gonna comment on it but I completely forgot until now.

Keep going hoss
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 04:04 GMT
#710
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.

This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.

[b]Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch[b].


Nvm this wasn't from 6AM.

Anyways the issue I had with the most is that rsoultin claims Nk isnt scum because he's SCUMMY(?) but because he makes her yawn.

But then the bolder paragraph feels like she's trying to justify her scumread on NK through the lens of him doing scummy things or being scummy... which she just said wasn't the basis of her read on NK.
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 04:10 GMT
#713
It's like if I said

"I don't eat bananas because they're healthy, I eat them because they are yellow!"

Followed by an explanation of

"Indeed, bananas are yellow because they have lots of vitamins and minerals that will help you live a long and happy life. That's why I eat bananas. "

The explanation doesn't fit with why I stated that I eat bananas.

Expecting a town read from koshi and rayn for making a banana analogy.
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 04:13 GMT
#716
On March 21 2018 13:04 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.

This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.

[b]Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch[b].


Nvm this wasn't from 6AM.

Anyways the issue I had with the most is that rsoultin claims Nk isnt scum because he's SCUMMY(?) but because he makes her yawn.

But then the bolder paragraph feels like she's trying to justify her scumread on NK through the lens of him doing scummy things or being scummy... which she just said wasn't the basis of her read on NK.



On March 21 2018 13:10 darthfoley wrote:
It's like if I said

"I don't eat bananas because they're healthy, I eat them because they are yellow!"

Followed by an explanation of

"Indeed, bananas are yellow because they have lots of vitamins and minerals that will help you live a long and happy life. That's why I eat bananas. "

The explanation doesn't fit with why I stated that I eat bananas.

Expecting a town read from koshi and rayn for making a banana analogy.

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March 21 2018 04:18 GMT
#718
On March 21 2018 13:14 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 12:41 darthfoley wrote:
On March 21 2018 12:14 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 11:58 Mocsta wrote:
Cool story bruh,

From 6 weeks ago.
On February 02 2018 01:40 Skynx wrote:
Vendée Globe 16' Mafia

[Flips]
Day1: mderg, as Mafia Framer
Night1: Trfel, as VT
Day2: rsoultin, as Mafia Goon
Night2: Mocsta, as VT
Day3: Damdred, as Mafia Roleblocker


On February 14 2018 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Nominating our town in Vendée Globe 16' as "best town performance"

we lynched mafia d1, d2, and d3 to win the game in three days. With epic shennanies onto scum D3!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia

I hope you don't think that's supposed to be contrary evidence? I can confidently expect that mderg was a fuckup in that game.


LoL. Literally every mafia caught ever fucked up in some way because they were lynched or vigi shot.

What a meaningless semantics to prove your e-peen.

I don't think I can bring myself to believe that you genuinely can't tell the difference between what I said, and "literally every mafia caught ever fucked up in some way." A scum player who gets lynched on D1 probably fucked up big, and their lynch is probably on them, and not creditable to super-awesome town play. A scum lynch on D1 is already statistically improbable, and then made all the more unlikely by the fact that (unlike most town players) they will have teammates who know they are on the team, and will actively work to keep them out of the Noose. A red flip on D1 should never be the expectation, and no one should be overly disappointed when it doesn't come. Therefore, when Mocsta says that even if Moosy is scum, there should be enough D1 content here to still lynch someone ELSE successfully too, that is really, really weird. But I could envision the mafia trying to lull the town into a false sense of security that "everything is going cool...you don't need to ask more questions....you don't need to do more thinking....we've got all this content...things are great...everyone just sit back and relax." The motivation for a TOWN player to say it? I dunno man, you tell me. I don't see it.


I agree that it is a weird thing to point out and one that I don't like.

IMO if you think moosy is mafia, you vote to lynch him. You don't "wait and see" if you truly believe he's mafia tbh.
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March 21 2018 04:39 GMT
#728
On March 21 2018 13:33 Tictock wrote:
Quickly skimming through the posts I missed makes me want to bump up DF and Exo a spot in my last post.

Has Rels actually made it a thing of just not playing D1? If so that is indeed total shit.

As I’m (hopefully) falling asleep I’m wondering just how entertaining a Koshi vs Palmar EoD wagon would be.


Yea Rels comes in with like two hours to go every D1 in the last two years with some excuse
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March 21 2018 17:49 GMT
#1082
Need to catch up on 17 pages now.

If there are specific questions I need to respond, let me know. But 17 pages is a lot of content
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March 21 2018 21:42 GMT
#1250
On March 22 2018 06:17 KelsierSC wrote:
last time df was mafia i called him out and he flung shit at me trying to call me scum , feels that way.

Plus he still has votes on me, trying to make me "uncomfortable" at this stage that's just bad.



Okay i'm back now after after-school meetings.

Dude I haven't "flung shit" at you. I address a couple of points why you I thought you were scum. I literally haven't been able to play all day; ever factor that into your assessment of why my vote is still on you? Believe me, my emotional state will be okay with you scumreading me. I'll get over it
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March 21 2018 21:44 GMT
#1253
On March 22 2018 02:49 darthfoley wrote:
Need to catch up on 17 pages now.

If there are specific questions I need to respond, let me know. But 17 pages is a lot of content


Wow, it's almost ass if I live a professional life AND have to get caught up on like 20 pages of filter at the same time!
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 21:48 GMT
#1261
On March 22 2018 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just caught up 15 pages in a half an hour i find it difficult to believe you can't manage 20 in 3 hours as you cleary said you are catching up.


Wow dude, you truly are a mafia wizard. I commend you for your ability to sift through shit quickly.

I had BUS DUTY after school from 3:10-3:45PM EST.

I then went to an IEP meeting for a student of mine after that from 3:45PM EST to 4:45PM EST.

Then I bicycled home and talked to the shopkeeper who lives below me.

Soon I will make myself dinner

Then I will work on my lesson for tomorrow.

Then I will play PUBG with a buddy.

Then I will go to bed much later than I should and regret it the next morning.
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 21:50 GMT
#1264
I'm truly trying my very fucking hardest not to go nuclear on the fact that all over a sudden 1 hour before a deadline when there are 2-3 competitive wagons, like 6 people just decide that I'm a good lynch for reasons while simultaneously waiting for someone to have the balls and/or ovaries to actually start a wagon on me.
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March 21 2018 21:51 GMT
#1265
On March 22 2018 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry but if someone says "i need to catch up NOW like you did i assume it means now and not 2 days after. You can be whiny all you want but don't say you you're gonna do things then if you're not gonna do them.


I'm going to say whatever I want, whenever I want.

I encourage you to do the same!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 21:53 GMT
#1268
On March 22 2018 06:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 06:50 darthfoley wrote:
I'm truly trying my very fucking hardest not to go nuclear on the fact that all over a sudden 1 hour before a deadline when there are 2-3 competitive wagons, like 6 people just decide that I'm a good lynch for reasons while simultaneously waiting for someone to have the balls and/or ovaries to actually start a wagon on me.


I know right.

I don't think you are scum, but almost all the mafia tries to get to your ass right now and I'm sorry to tell you that this is a mafia driven game.

Now excuse me, I have to go back to not being listened to.


Hey man. You have the nerve to claim Kelscier is not locked top town. Fuck you for your opinion.

/s
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 21:58 GMT
#1280
On March 22 2018 06:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 06:50 darthfoley wrote:
I'm truly trying my very fucking hardest not to go nuclear on the fact that all over a sudden 1 hour before a deadline when there are 2-3 competitive wagons, like 6 people just decide that I'm a good lynch for reasons while simultaneously waiting for someone to have the balls and/or ovaries to actually start a wagon on me.


So who are you lynching then?


No one is really taking the idea of lynching you/rayn/kelscier seriously unfortunately. However, your tone has seemed better to me from what I read this afternoon so I wouldn't make that a d1 thing.

I actually think Conversion has a decent chance to flip scum. Rels could as well. Whoever made that point that he got all that shit done during his lunch break made me grin. I would also be okay with lynching FF/ykl/Palmar
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:00 GMT
#1283
On March 22 2018 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your reasons for scumreading me are shit. I don't even know what your reasons to scumread rsoultin are, but they are probably shit because i don't remember them. Kelsier pointed out you don't really call anyone scum (your reasoning for him being mafia is shit and not a reason why someone would be mafia), you answer with your "original" shit reads on me and rsoultin, one of which i have already proved doesn't even make any fuckign sense at all.
You say you are gonna catch up, then you actually don't, but then you after all magically appear when people start taking about you, and not only that, you act all whiny for no apparent reason.

So here is the wagon you wanted then:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


Some day you will learn that just because you don't agree with someone, or they have less than fool-proof logic, it doesn't make them mafia.

It might not be this game, but I am optimistic yet.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:01 GMT
#1285
I don't like Rels soft defending me off a completely NAI post tbh
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:02 GMT
#1289
On March 22 2018 06:59 Vivax wrote:
So, in rough order of current confidence the mafia guesses are:

High tier:

HF
KSC
Koshi

Medium tier:

Rsoultin
ExO

Low Tier:

Rayn (maybe he's just being bad but that HF townread really doesn't sit right with me, also he didn't start a shitfight with any of the big names yet)

I'm wrong on 1-2 depending on the final amount of mafia. I salute you town.


So... none of your top three are gonna happen (unfortunately about KSC). Where's your head at for the vote?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:03 GMT
#1292
On March 22 2018 07:02 Skynx wrote:
Silence

?????

On March 20 2018 08:00 Calix wrote:

Day 1


[image loading]


Day 1 has begun! You have 48 hours to vote for your preferred lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

Voting is mandatory and must be done here. Remember to use the correct format (
##vote Calix / ##unvote)

Votes with XX:59 timestamps will be counted. Votes at or after XX:00 will not be counted.

If you have any game-related queries, find an error in the vote counts, want the observer QT, or wish to be put on the replacement list, please PM me. Any queries posted in the game thread will be ignored.

If you have any complaints, please PM my co-host Skynx.


Reminder: DST changes, especially those occurring on the 25th March, may affect deadlines on your local clock.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:05 GMT
#1297
On March 22 2018 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:00 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your reasons for scumreading me are shit. I don't even know what your reasons to scumread rsoultin are, but they are probably shit because i don't remember them. Kelsier pointed out you don't really call anyone scum (your reasoning for him being mafia is shit and not a reason why someone would be mafia), you answer with your "original" shit reads on me and rsoultin, one of which i have already proved doesn't even make any fuckign sense at all.
You say you are gonna catch up, then you actually don't, but then you after all magically appear when people start taking about you, and not only that, you act all whiny for no apparent reason.

So here is the wagon you wanted then:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


Some day you will learn that just because you don't agree with someone, or they have less than fool-proof logic, it doesn't make them mafia.

It might not be this game, but I am optimistic yet.

There is nothing to agree here. Regardless of how lousy you have been reading my posts it should be apparent i made the read on noobking first -> the one which was "really good" from HF & Mocsta, but somehow you completely have missed all that. Again, nothing to agree here, you're just wrong and bad or mafia. That's it.


Then color me wrong and bad!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:11 GMT
#1309
On March 22 2018 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:00 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your reasons for scumreading me are shit. I don't even know what your reasons to scumread rsoultin are, but they are probably shit because i don't remember them. Kelsier pointed out you don't really call anyone scum (your reasoning for him being mafia is shit and not a reason why someone would be mafia), you answer with your "original" shit reads on me and rsoultin, one of which i have already proved doesn't even make any fuckign sense at all.
You say you are gonna catch up, then you actually don't, but then you after all magically appear when people start taking about you, and not only that, you act all whiny for no apparent reason.

So here is the wagon you wanted then:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


Some day you will learn that just because you don't agree with someone, or they have less than fool-proof logic, it doesn't make them mafia.

It might not be this game, but I am optimistic yet.

There is nothing to agree here. Regardless of how lousy you have been reading my posts it should be apparent i made the read on noobking first -> the one which was "really good" from HF & Mocsta, but somehow you completely have missed all that. Again, nothing to agree here, you're just wrong and bad or mafia. That's it.


Are you claiming that your confusing teacher assignment analogy was the same as saying "n00bking is arguing semantics and nitty gritty details that don't particularly matter?"

Because if not, I have no idea where in your filter you had this epic first read on n00bking. In fact, a control + F of your filter has you mentioning n00bking only 4 times.

In fact, YOU asked HF for HIS read on n00bking.

On March 20 2018 17:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare can you tell me what is your read on noobking and why?


Scummy because he is doing the same thing he did last game of defending logic rather than elaborating on mafia reads and being fluid.


Which you followed with

On March 20 2018 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Although it's not really even defending logic, it is more like the feeling from his posts is "teacher told me to do this so i am gonna find a scientific reasoning to say X not because i think it's true but because someone said this reasoning is valid 10000 years ago".


So.... uhh..... HF was the first person to point out n00bking's focus on semantics and logic based arguments.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:12 GMT
#1310
Like why are you so obsessed with getting credit for reads when you weren't actually the first person to make the read? It's just a blatant lie
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:13 GMT
#1313
Please don't try to claim this was the "first" read on n00bking that HF and Mocsta "sheeped" you on

On March 20 2018 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:21 Conversion wrote:
Let’s lynch n00bking

I almost agree.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:15 GMT
#1314
I think Conversion is mafia
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:21 GMT
#1322
##Unvote
##Vote: Conversion
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:25 GMT
#1332
On March 22 2018 07:22 Conversion wrote:
Willing to lynch this DF fella for randomly skyrocketing me past all of his scumreads/suspicions. Otherwise I'd say NK is still our best shot.


Uh... you haven't skyrocketed past all of my scumreads.

Kelscier, rsoultin, and rayn are not getting lynched today. And I want to wait and see on rsoultin more tbh.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:25 GMT
#1334
I'd also like to mention that I can definitely see Palmar being mafia here
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:26 GMT
#1336
On March 22 2018 07:25 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:22 Conversion wrote:
Willing to lynch this DF fella for randomly skyrocketing me past all of his scumreads/suspicions. Otherwise I'd say NK is still our best shot.


Uh... you haven't skyrocketed past all of my scumreads.

Kelscier, rsoultin, and rayn are not getting lynched today. And I want to wait and see on rsoultin more tbh.


translates to "I am bad at this game so I will go for the easiest target to start a wagon on"


Whatever floats your boat man. I'm not gonna waste my time engaging in childish insults with someone because I had the nerve to suggest the person may in fact be mafia.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:33 GMT
#1360
On March 22 2018 07:27 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:26 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:22 Conversion wrote:
Willing to lynch this DF fella for randomly skyrocketing me past all of his scumreads/suspicions. Otherwise I'd say NK is still our best shot.


Uh... you haven't skyrocketed past all of my scumreads.

Kelscier, rsoultin, and rayn are not getting lynched today. And I want to wait and see on rsoultin more tbh.


translates to "I am bad at this game so I will go for the easiest target to start a wagon on"


Whatever floats your boat man. I'm not gonna waste my time engaging in childish insults with someone because I had the nerve to suggest the person may in fact be mafia.



? I said I skyrocketed past your reads, you replied that I did not, gave me 3 names, yet you started a wagon on me. Somehow that's supposed to translate to anything else besides you being shitty and going for an easy target? Sorry for hurting your feelings, bud.


I can explain my read if people care, but I don't need to convince you that you're mafia.

You didn't hurt my feelings, the constant OMGUS just gets tiring. Shout out to Mocsta for putting me onto a new philosophy
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:34 GMT
#1364
On March 22 2018 07:32 disformation wrote:
uh. well. I have to admit that the conv wagon going from like 0 to hard on lynch is troubling. so kinda is voting with df.


My wagon came out of nowhere 1 hour before deadline.

Conversion's comes about 45 minutes before EoD. If you're town, and i'm town, and conversion is town, doesn't that make n00bking look pretty scummy?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:35 GMT
#1367
On March 22 2018 07:34 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:33 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:27 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:26 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:22 Conversion wrote:
Willing to lynch this DF fella for randomly skyrocketing me past all of his scumreads/suspicions. Otherwise I'd say NK is still our best shot.


Uh... you haven't skyrocketed past all of my scumreads.

Kelscier, rsoultin, and rayn are not getting lynched today. And I want to wait and see on rsoultin more tbh.


translates to "I am bad at this game so I will go for the easiest target to start a wagon on"


Whatever floats your boat man. I'm not gonna waste my time engaging in childish insults with someone because I had the nerve to suggest the person may in fact be mafia.



? I said I skyrocketed past your reads, you replied that I did not, gave me 3 names, yet you started a wagon on me. Somehow that's supposed to translate to anything else besides you being shitty and going for an easy target? Sorry for hurting your feelings, bud.


I can explain my read if people care, but I don't need to convince you that you're mafia.

You didn't hurt my feelings, the constant OMGUS just gets tiring. Shout out to Mocsta for putting me onto a new philosophy


'Constant OMGUS' like I did any OMGUS this game. keep the drama queen title alive, buddy.


Constant OMGUS = not just from you.

But you literally called me bad because I think you're mafia and decided to vote on it. How is that not OMGUS?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:36 GMT
#1374
On March 22 2018 07:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:34 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:33 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:27 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:26 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:22 Conversion wrote:
Willing to lynch this DF fella for randomly skyrocketing me past all of his scumreads/suspicions. Otherwise I'd say NK is still our best shot.


Uh... you haven't skyrocketed past all of my scumreads.

Kelscier, rsoultin, and rayn are not getting lynched today. And I want to wait and see on rsoultin more tbh.


translates to "I am bad at this game so I will go for the easiest target to start a wagon on"


Whatever floats your boat man. I'm not gonna waste my time engaging in childish insults with someone because I had the nerve to suggest the person may in fact be mafia.



? I said I skyrocketed past your reads, you replied that I did not, gave me 3 names, yet you started a wagon on me. Somehow that's supposed to translate to anything else besides you being shitty and going for an easy target? Sorry for hurting your feelings, bud.


I can explain my read if people care, but I don't need to convince you that you're mafia.

You didn't hurt my feelings, the constant OMGUS just gets tiring. Shout out to Mocsta for putting me onto a new philosophy


'Constant OMGUS' like I did any OMGUS this game. keep the drama queen title alive, buddy.

You did tell people they sucked which was not nice. tbh tempted to kill you just for that


then you are moronic

##Unvote
##Vote: Conversion


lmao Moosy for prez 2020
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:37 GMT
#1375
On March 22 2018 07:11 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:00 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your reasons for scumreading me are shit. I don't even know what your reasons to scumread rsoultin are, but they are probably shit because i don't remember them. Kelsier pointed out you don't really call anyone scum (your reasoning for him being mafia is shit and not a reason why someone would be mafia), you answer with your "original" shit reads on me and rsoultin, one of which i have already proved doesn't even make any fuckign sense at all.
You say you are gonna catch up, then you actually don't, but then you after all magically appear when people start taking about you, and not only that, you act all whiny for no apparent reason.

So here is the wagon you wanted then:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


Some day you will learn that just because you don't agree with someone, or they have less than fool-proof logic, it doesn't make them mafia.

It might not be this game, but I am optimistic yet.

There is nothing to agree here. Regardless of how lousy you have been reading my posts it should be apparent i made the read on noobking first -> the one which was "really good" from HF & Mocsta, but somehow you completely have missed all that. Again, nothing to agree here, you're just wrong and bad or mafia. That's it.


Are you claiming that your confusing teacher assignment analogy was the same as saying "n00bking is arguing semantics and nitty gritty details that don't particularly matter?"

Because if not, I have no idea where in your filter you had this epic first read on n00bking. In fact, a control + F of your filter has you mentioning n00bking only 4 times.

In fact, YOU asked HF for HIS read on n00bking.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:07 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2018 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare can you tell me what is your read on noobking and why?


Scummy because he is doing the same thing he did last game of defending logic rather than elaborating on mafia reads and being fluid.


Which you followed with

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Although it's not really even defending logic, it is more like the feeling from his posts is "teacher told me to do this so i am gonna find a scientific reasoning to say X not because i think it's true but because someone said this reasoning is valid 10000 years ago".


So.... uhh..... HF was the first person to point out n00bking's focus on semantics and logic based arguments.


Just wanted to make sure rayn saw this in case he missed it!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:42 GMT
#1395
On March 22 2018 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Tina, even if you discount all that "HF said it first" i still made almost exactly the same read, yet HF's read is good and my read is bad.


When did I ever claim to scum read you for a "bad" read on n00bking?

Lmao first you make a big stink about how I should bow down to you for scum reading n00bking for specific reasons FIRST.

When I call you out on a very easily checked fact, you're like...

"Okay... I wasn't actually first. NOT THAT IT EVER MATTERED EVEN THOUGH I JUST SAID IT DID!"
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:46 GMT
#1411
On March 22 2018 07:44 Mocsta wrote:
DF

sorry to distract, but. . why did you stop doing chester?

like I know why i stopped doing a post restriction.


I was only gonna do Chester Campbell (shout to Peaky Blinders btw, top tier show) for early D1. But then Palmar and Kelscier were dicks about it for no reason and KSC even made up some shit scum read on it, so I decided that I would only be in character if I were directly responding to a quoted post of theirs.

I haven't been the best at following that, but that's my goal. Annoy the shit out of them and be vindictive, while normally interacting with everyone else.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:47 GMT
#1417
On March 22 2018 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dont talk shit you didn't even know who made the read first because you had to check it out -- yet HF's read was good and my read was bad. You can stop talking now.


LMAO of course I don't remember who made the fucking read first. There are over 70 pages of filter. Just admit that you were wrong.

Please quote me where I, darthfoley, said

"Rayn is scummy because his n00bking read is bad."
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:50 GMT
#1427
On March 22 2018 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 Mocsta wrote:
DF

sorry to distract, but. . why did you stop doing chester?

like I know why i stopped doing a post restriction.


I was only gonna do Chester Campbell (shout to Peaky Blinders btw, top tier show) for early D1. But then Palmar and Kelscier were dicks about it for no reason and KSC even made up some shit scum read on it, so I decided that I would only be in character if I were directly responding to a quoted post of theirs.

I haven't been the best at following that, but that's my goal. Annoy the shit out of them and be vindictive, while normally interacting with everyone else.


im sure if you want to pretend to be a gay gypsy detective you can find some other forum to suit your desires.


1. He's not gay
2. He's not a gypsy
3. If this was supposed to be humorous, it missed the mark
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:51 GMT
#1434
On March 22 2018 07:50 ykl wrote:
Ehh, I don't really like the other lynch choices up right now so I'll go with darthfoley


lol

Not voting Mocsta and apparently all of a sudden no one likes a Conversion lynch, and I want to survive so

##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:51 GMT
#1437
On March 22 2018 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:47 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dont talk shit you didn't even know who made the read first because you had to check it out -- yet HF's read was good and my read was bad. You can stop talking now.


LMAO of course I don't remember who made the fucking read first. There are over 70 pages of filter. Just admit that you were wrong.

Please quote me where I, darthfoley, said

"Rayn is scummy because his n00bking read is bad."

I didn't say you called me scummy. Well originally i did as your "original reads" you were so proud about were me and rsoultin, but i retracted from that when i reread that those "reads" werent reads at all.

It doesn't change the fact you called HF good and me bad for the same read.


Where does this happen in my filter?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:53 GMT
#1445
On March 22 2018 07:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:50 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 Mocsta wrote:
DF

sorry to distract, but. . why did you stop doing chester?

like I know why i stopped doing a post restriction.


I was only gonna do Chester Campbell (shout to Peaky Blinders btw, top tier show) for early D1. But then Palmar and Kelscier were dicks about it for no reason and KSC even made up some shit scum read on it, so I decided that I would only be in character if I were directly responding to a quoted post of theirs.

I haven't been the best at following that, but that's my goal. Annoy the shit out of them and be vindictive, while normally interacting with everyone else.


im sure if you want to pretend to be a gay gypsy detective you can find some other forum to suit your desires.


1. He's not gay
2. He's not a gypsy
3. If this was supposed to be humorous, it missed the mark


must have been the way you were RPing it, my mistake


Dude you're legitimately just not a fun person to interact with at any level. I don't know why you've had a huge stick up your ass the whole game. I'm done interacting with you
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:54 GMT
#1447
On March 22 2018 07:52 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:51 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:50 ykl wrote:
Ehh, I don't really like the other lynch choices up right now so I'll go with darthfoley


lol

Not voting Mocsta and apparently all of a sudden no one likes a Conversion lynch, and I want to survive so

##Unvote
##Vote: Rels




Because my wagon was bad and you know it was bad and you should feel bad and Rels should be lynched as we both have the funnies on him soft defending you and me


This is something we can actually agree on, yes.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:56 GMT
#1458
Fuck it, I didn't wanna claim day one

but i'm + Show Spoiler +
Cop. The Chester Campbell thing was supposed to be obvious

+ Show Spoiler +
lol nah i'm VT don't worry your little buns off
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:56 GMT
#1460
4-4-4 with 4 minutes to go.

This is what we live for, people
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2018 22:57 GMT
#1464
On March 22 2018 07:56 darthfoley wrote:
Fuck it, I didn't wanna claim day one

but i'm + Show Spoiler +
Cop. The Chester Campbell thing was supposed to be obvious

+ Show Spoiler +
lol nah i'm VT don't worry your little buns off

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 21 2018 22:58 GMT
#1472
If I get lynched,

Someone for the love of god shoot Kelscier; idc whether he flips town.

Anyways, on a more serious note, I would say the mafia is probably within
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darthfoley
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March 21 2018 23:01 GMT
#1486
+ Show Spoiler +
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March 21 2018 23:09 GMT
#1501
Nuts
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March 22 2018 01:27 GMT
#1516
Vet is the optimal fake claim to make
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 01:46 GMT
#1523
On March 22 2018 10:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 10:27 darthfoley wrote:
Vet is the optimal fake claim to make


Um no it's actually one of the few claims that gets insta dunked by ccs


Howso if the mafia chooses to just not shoot at the real vet?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 02:24 GMT
#1528
On March 22 2018 10:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 10:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 10:28 Vivax wrote:
On March 22 2018 10:27 darthfoley wrote:
Vet is the optimal fake claim to make


Um no it's actually one of the few claims that gets insta dunked by ccs


Howso if the mafia chooses to just not shoot at the real vet?


???
If anyone would have ccd disfo yesterday he would have been the lynch. If not mafia, then the cc afterwards unless town goes full retard.


And Mocsta if you want to case TT, case TT. But don't just throw observations out there and expect me to start arguing for TT. I don't feel like you are someone worth convincing anyway as so far you turned down each and every single one of my scumreads, some more than the others. I'll just assume for the rest of the game that we won't get along.


That applies to every role???
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 02:25 GMT
#1529
I honestly don't know why anyone has given a fuck about Mocsta's vigi claim this whole game.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 10:51 GMT
#1612
On March 22 2018 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn you should read df's cop claim again. This time clicking all the spoilers.


Don't listen to him rayn. Fake news!!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 10:55 GMT
#1614
Going to work now. Bbl
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March 22 2018 20:18 GMT
#1746
On March 23 2018 05:06 rsoultin wrote:
Pfft.

So of the three up for lynch (mocsta, df, conversion)

I've got some issues with all of them.

-mocsta's palmar and ff reads
-df's spoiler claim just kidding thing, and yeah he's not wrong that we're in wildly different places this game. course the latter doesn't necessarily make him scum
-conversion's read on mocsta coming out of nowhere

But I think that night actions might be best utilized on Conversion of the three. It's not just about the NK focus, it's also about the little jabs at people which I thought he was trying to cut out. Feels pretty different from Vendee to me.


Honestly feel lost in this game atm and i'm hoping night actions can clear stuff up. I can easily be 100% wrong
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 20:19 GMT
#1747
Maybe ExO is just scum. That would certainly be helpful
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 20:20 GMT
#1748
I'm still very hopeful Kelscier is scum. That would make me happy and feel vindicated
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 20:22 GMT
#1752
On March 23 2018 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:20 darthfoley wrote:
I'm still very hopeful Kelscier is scum. That would make me happy and feel vindicated

It will be the other way around when you flip though.


You're simply wrong and that's all there is to it.
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 20:24 GMT
#1753
What I don't understand is why Conversion's wagon (if Conversion is indeed town) gained so much cred within 30 minutes of deadline, then all of a sudden lost 5 of the 7 votes within like 5-7 minutes.

Like if he's town, doesn't mafia just get on that wagon a couple times and stay there for *insert reasons.* Idk if I've ever seen a wagon build as quickly as his and crumble as quickly as his. I still think he was a better lynch than Rels.
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 20:40 GMT
#1759
On March 23 2018 05:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:18 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:06 rsoultin wrote:
Pfft.

So of the three up for lynch (mocsta, df, conversion)

I've got some issues with all of them.

-mocsta's palmar and ff reads
-df's spoiler claim just kidding thing, and yeah he's not wrong that we're in wildly different places this game. course the latter doesn't necessarily make him scum
-conversion's read on mocsta coming out of nowhere

But I think that night actions might be best utilized on Conversion of the three. It's not just about the NK focus, it's also about the little jabs at people which I thought he was trying to cut out. Feels pretty different from Vendee to me.


Honestly feel lost in this game atm and i'm hoping night actions can clear stuff up. I can easily be 100% wrong


you and me both lol ><

Rels was town. Slam is probably town. I don't want to say Palmar is town yet + Show Spoiler +
but I'm beginning to think so
which means I had a pretty shitty D1 \o/ Unsurprisingly, but it's still annoying.

KSC and rayn still top my town list. Need to talk to mocsta. You I felt a bit better about around EoD? But the mafia motivation for being more cooperative in an EoD that could end in your lynch is kind of obvious. I'll be honest, I considered lynching you more because of not wanting to lynch the counterwagons and KSC/rayn both thought you were scum than because I really feel strongly about your alignment in any way. That fake claim thing hidden in spoilers doesn't help lessen my suspicions though @.@

HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling. Which reminds me of a scum game of his where he drowned me out that way when I was trying to lay down how one of the claims absolutely COULD NOT be true lol >< I'm not going to bother filter-diving him tonight, though. I don't think I'll be any more confident, for one. That can happen D2 if I'm around still and I feel the need to.

ExO feels different. Almost like most of his posts are tonally apologizing for scumreading me. Doesn't fit with my memories of him. He kind of had a NK tone that grated.

I may have missed it, but what has you suspicious of ExO, df?



Well I've mislynched ExO d1 at least twice and I feel bad lynching lynchbait people D1. I only was really townreading him for scumreading you iirc. I was just siding on the town side of lynchbait rather than mafia side because we shared a couple reads.

I might just sheep people this game tbh
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:12 GMT
#1796
On March 23 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say this once again, i'm a fucking idiot for not opening a spoiler and darthfoley should always have been the lynch at that time. Shoot him please.


What narrative are you going to push when i flip green?
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:14 GMT
#1799
On March 23 2018 06:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say this once again, i'm a fucking idiot for not opening a spoiler and darthfoley should always have been the lynch at that time. Shoot him please.


What narrative are you going to push when i flip green?

do you think rayn is scum?


I wouldn't be surprised.

He's flat out lied about the order of things that were central to his accusation on me. Then he backtracked and changed his stance slightly while still blaming me.

If we're vigi'ing liars according to Palmar, shoot Rayn.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 21:18 GMT
#1804
On March 23 2018 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't lie as mafia. Never. Except for when i say "this guy is scum" because it's in itself a lie.


Well, this is a slick way of admitting that I am correct in saying you lied.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 21:24 GMT
#1809
On March 23 2018 06:18 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, that could easily be explained by a 90 page game. Or a chipmunk memory like mine. Is that the only reason you have? Because your 'what narrative' accusation definitely sounds like you're calling him scum.


I wouldn't mind if it was a small thing. Obviously it's hard to remember every detail in a 90 page game... which is why I went back and double checked his claim because it felt wrong, and it turned out to be wrong. When confronted by it, he didn't just say "oh yea you're kinda right, my bad. Must've mis-remembered." He half-assed admitted I was right while also STILL claiming something that never happened.

tl;dr

On March 22 2018 07:11 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:00 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your reasons for scumreading me are shit. I don't even know what your reasons to scumread rsoultin are, but they are probably shit because i don't remember them. Kelsier pointed out you don't really call anyone scum (your reasoning for him being mafia is shit and not a reason why someone would be mafia), you answer with your "original" shit reads on me and rsoultin, one of which i have already proved doesn't even make any fuckign sense at all.
You say you are gonna catch up, then you actually don't, but then you after all magically appear when people start taking about you, and not only that, you act all whiny for no apparent reason.

So here is the wagon you wanted then:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


Some day you will learn that just because you don't agree with someone, or they have less than fool-proof logic, it doesn't make them mafia.

It might not be this game, but I am optimistic yet.

There is nothing to agree here. Regardless of how lousy you have been reading my posts it should be apparent i made the read on noobking first -> the one which was "really good" from HF & Mocsta, but somehow you completely have missed all that. Again, nothing to agree here, you're just wrong and bad or mafia. That's it.


Are you claiming that your confusing teacher assignment analogy was the same as saying "n00bking is arguing semantics and nitty gritty details that don't particularly matter?"

Because if not, I have no idea where in your filter you had this epic first read on n00bking. In fact, a control + F of your filter has you mentioning n00bking only 4 times.

In fact, YOU asked HF for HIS read on n00bking.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:07 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2018 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare can you tell me what is your read on noobking and why?


Scummy because he is doing the same thing he did last game of defending logic rather than elaborating on mafia reads and being fluid.


Which you followed with

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Although it's not really even defending logic, it is more like the feeling from his posts is "teacher told me to do this so i am gonna find a scientific reasoning to say X not because i think it's true but because someone said this reasoning is valid 10000 years ago".


So.... uhh..... HF was the first person to point out n00bking's focus on semantics and logic based arguments.


to which he/I respond

On March 22 2018 07:47 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dont talk shit you didn't even know who made the read first because you had to check it out -- yet HF's read was good and my read was bad. You can stop talking now.


LMAO of course I don't remember who made the fucking read first. There are over 70 pages of filter. Just admit that you were wrong.

Please quote me where I, darthfoley, said

"Rayn is scummy because his n00bking read is bad."



I even make the point you just made rsoultin, before you made it. He still N E V E R quoted anything in my filter that has E V E R said my scum read on rayn comes from his n00bking read (hint: it doesn't exist.)

I don't think he's been memorable. I don't think he's been aggressive enough with the other big names. We've disagreed on multiple reads.
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:26 GMT
#1810
On March 23 2018 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only time i even go check what i am about to post and that it is actually 100% legit is when i am mafia.


But what if it's 0% legit?
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:27 GMT
#1811
ykl's vote is still weird as hell. idk man.
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:29 GMT
#1812
Actually the chance that both Mocsta and Conversion are town is like 3%
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 21:35 GMT
#1817
On March 23 2018 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let me make this very clear for you all:

raynpelikoneet, Holyflare and Mocsta all make almost the same read on noobking.

This is what darthfoley says:
Show nested quote +
I also agree with HF and Mocsta's assessment with n00bking this game. He just is sooo focused on semantics and nitty gritty details in a way that feels intentional-- as to intentionally miss the proverbial forest for the trees.

Show nested quote +
I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.

So there is that. The only thing other than my noobking read at this point is my read on Exo_. There is never any comment on Exo_ form darthfoley. This is what he says about Exo_:
Show nested quote +
ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.

....and Kelsier is scum because he doesn't want df to roleplay (like fucking everyone).


Dude your "read" on n00bking was some confusing ass analogy about a teacher and measurement and X marks the spot that wasn't original because 1) I didn't understand your point and 2) it wasn't memorable because I didn't understand it
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:36 GMT
#1821
On March 23 2018 06:32 Koshi wrote:
Man I was going to post this on deadline but w.e.
I think the risk is too high cool people will die.
RIP 3 townies.

I am paying attention. Suprise!
Best reads in spoiler. Town MVP Throphy = thx.
Mafia will probably win if slightly mafia balanced. Too much KP. Too many limited town players.

+ Show Spoiler +
Top town
18. Coagulation (town seal)
9. KelsierSC (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
6. rsoultin (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
7. Vivax (tip top town, because he lives in Vivax world)

Townish

3. ExO_ (Some1 mindmelded with him. The mindmeldee is mostly town. Other than that he doesn't look good)
17. Tictock (I said this after a post he made)
4. Mocsta (seems lost. Being lost here is good)
20. MoosyDoosy (I think he is town just based on thread sentiment against him)

I have hope for these players
15. Palmar (high hopes)
1. Holyflare (less high hopes)

Can flip either way
8. raynpelikoneet (not enough cares during lynch, nothing smart during night, pushes the idea df is town on something he didn't read properly. But he seems a bit lost which is townie)
14. disformation (still looks mafia to me)
10. ykl (Meh, needs more sass, way too safe)
11. n00bking (He might be good at playing mafia, I think he is town)
5. Alakaslam (potential false prophet)

mafia
2. Conversion (I call him mafia, he says I am always wrong on his alignment.)
12. darthfoley (I call him mafia, he says I am wrong.)
16. Fecalfeast (0 impact)


Yes, I pushed a 7 vote lynch on my teammates within 30 minutes EoD
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:39 GMT
#1824
On March 23 2018 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So apparently, aside from what i just said, darthfoley thinks i am mafia because i haven't called "strong players" mafia. That is super bs reason to call anyone scum because by default there should be no assumption that any of the "strong players" are even mafia over other people.

Has df called any of the "strong players" mafia? No, he just dislikes me and rsoultin for bs reasons. Tell me df, which of the strong players have you called mafia aside from me now (which honestly seems to be pure omgus because the reasoning is just completely invalid).


Depends on who you consider "strong players."

I've thought HF and Vivax were townie since early on.

I've consistently been suspicious on you and rsoultin.

I've ignored Koshi until recently but I'm not particularly impressed by his play. I haven't read his filter individually, but he can be considered somewhat scummy. He's been super detached from the game imo
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:40 GMT
#1825
On March 23 2018 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let me make this very clear for you all:

raynpelikoneet, Holyflare and Mocsta all make almost the same read on noobking.

This is what darthfoley says:
I also agree with HF and Mocsta's assessment with n00bking this game. He just is sooo focused on semantics and nitty gritty details in a way that feels intentional-- as to intentionally miss the proverbial forest for the trees.

I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.

So there is that. The only thing other than my noobking read at this point is my read on Exo_. There is never any comment on Exo_ form darthfoley. This is what he says about Exo_:
ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.

....and Kelsier is scum because he doesn't want df to roleplay (like fucking everyone).


Dude your "read" on n00bking was some confusing ass analogy about a teacher and measurement and X marks the spot that wasn't original because 1) I didn't understand your point and 2) it wasn't memorable because I didn't understand it

Then you cannot read or process what you read. The analogy is completely understandable, even i - who sucks at english - know it.


Whatever man. I'm still mad you didn't give me any credit for my banana analogy.
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:42 GMT
#1828
On March 23 2018 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:39 darthfoley wrote:
I've consistently been suspicious on you and rsoultin.

But no, you haven't. BEcause the last time i suggested that you said you weren't.


quote it please because i have no idea what you're talking about
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:43 GMT
#1830
On March 21 2018 13:04 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.

This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.

[b]Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch.


Nvm this wasn't from 6AM.

Anyways the issue I had with the most is that rsoultin claims Nk isnt scum because he's SCUMMY(?) but because he makes her yawn.

But then the bolder paragraph feels like she's trying to justify her scumread on NK through the lens of him doing scummy things or being scummy... which she just said wasn't the basis of her read on NK.


[B]On March 21 2018 13:10 darthfoley wrote:
It's like if I said

"I don't eat bananas because they're healthy, I eat them because they are yellow!"

Followed by an explanation of

"Indeed, bananas are yellow because they have lots of vitamins and minerals that will help you live a long and happy life. That's why I eat bananas. "

The explanation doesn't fit with why I stated that I eat bananas.

Expecting a town read from koshi and rayn for making a banana analogy.

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March 22 2018 21:44 GMT
#1834
On March 23 2018 06:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If none of darth/Conversion/ExO/ykl/Mocsta is scum then rayn/rsoul are scum and probably someone like Holyflare


That's a lot of people who will be vigi shot or mislynched in your first grouping.

Who are you currently scumreading? I have kinda forgotten where you stand on stuff
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:46 GMT
#1839
On March 23 2018 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:51 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:47 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dont talk shit you didn't even know who made the read first because you had to check it out -- yet HF's read was good and my read was bad. You can stop talking now.


LMAO of course I don't remember who made the fucking read first. There are over 70 pages of filter. Just admit that you were wrong.

Please quote me where I, darthfoley, said

"Rayn is scummy because his n00bking read is bad."

I didn't say you called me scummy. Well originally i did as your "original reads" you were so proud about were me and rsoultin, but i retracted from that when i reread that those "reads" werent reads at all.

It doesn't change the fact you called HF good and me bad for the same read.


Where does this happen in my filter?



Nah dude. My point was that I was NOT scumreading you for the reason you say I was scum reading you.

I WAS scumreading you for other reasons. Idk how much more clear I can say this. It's in my filter
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 21:46 GMT
#1840
On March 23 2018 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not calling me scummy then you are not calling me suspicious and you said you are not calling me scummy.


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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 22 2018 21:49 GMT
#1845
On March 21 2018 03:26 darthfoley wrote:
I think HF and Vivax are probably town. ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.

I'm voting Kelscier partially because he's been the least enjoyable player so far, and partially because I think ExO made a fairly decent point that I agree with about Kelscier's vote on disformation. Of course, Kelscier just called him terrible and said that he didn't really matter.

Really proving TLMafia skeptics like Mocsta and n00bking wrong with posts like that!

I don't really see what rayn and rsoultin are saying about Slam. Don't have much recent experience with him but his posts strike me as they did last game.

I also agree with HF and Mocsta's assessment with n00bking this game. He just is sooo focused on semantics and nitty gritty details in a way that feels intentional-- as to intentionally miss the proverbial forest for the trees.

Things like this

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:34 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 15:56 rsoultin wrote:
Slam is not giving me the adorable aimless vibes. I usually love reading his posts and keeping him around. Might be scum.

Can you describe the difference between his posts in this game, and the last? I think you'd agree that if they aren't the same thing, they are at least *meant* to *look* like the same thing. So what's keeping them from looking like the same thing?


Like why does this matter? Idk and you don't either.

Lastly, I said Conversion was on Chester Campbell's good list earlier, but he's 'ad a change of 'eart. Conversion is now questionable.

n00bking/Kelscier/rsoultin/Conversion/rayn/Palmar are people of interest in Chester's investigation as of now.


On March 21 2018 03:38 darthfoley wrote:
I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.

I have disagreed with rsoultin on like 90% of everything up to this point so

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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:51 GMT
#1846
Maybe I should've been more clear about it, sure. But I think people could read between the lines or ask me about it if they cared
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darthfoley
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March 22 2018 21:59 GMT
#1854
On March 23 2018 06:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
darthfoley, do you think Alakaslam is the same as last game?


Not anymore. Originally I didn't see much of a difference but Slam became super duper serious during the second half of day 1. Plus he popped off. I still don't know what that makes him.

But I'm never going to vote for him because of his Mew2King vs. Mang0 analogy that was 1000% accurate. We are now brothers forever
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#1856
On March 23 2018 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am scummy because:
1) You can't understand Slam comment
2) I made a case on Exo_ you never said what was wrong with it
3) I did something you townread other people for

That was all i had done in the game at that time.

Very good and well thought out read.


So you still think I'm scum?
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March 22 2018 22:01 GMT
#1857
On March 23 2018 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:51 darthfoley wrote:
Maybe I should've been more clear about it, sure. But I think people could read between the lines or ask me about it if they cared

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU OF ALL PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT READING BETWEEN LINES!

roflmao.

Okay i am done here i am soon gonna say something i don't wanna say. Good night.


Goodnight! Don't let the bedbugs bite!
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March 22 2018 23:03 GMT
#1904
Nice
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March 22 2018 23:04 GMT
#1907
Well Mocsta or Conversion has to be mafia. Or else were major league boned
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March 22 2018 23:05 GMT
#1909
But Mocsta is almost certainly vigi sooooo

That leaves Conversion
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March 22 2018 23:09 GMT
#1923
On March 23 2018 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I can see Mocsta being strongarm or someth and mafia killing ExO_ and claiming Mocsta as vig


Yes the thought crossed my mind too. Hmmmm.

But I find it unlikely that Town doesn't have some form of KP sunless there's like a cop/tracker combo or something
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March 22 2018 23:11 GMT
#1929
On March 23 2018 08:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Either Mocsta is vig and he gave a bad shot and rsoultin/darthfoley are mafia or Mocsta is mafia and rsoultin/darthfoley are town


Huh? Not sure I understand the thought process?
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March 22 2018 23:12 GMT
#1932
On the one hand, I feel a little better than ExO actually was townie lynch bait
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March 22 2018 23:41 GMT
#1974
I'm just gonna remind everyone that Vivac thought KSC was high probability mafia and he died

Therefore KSC 100% mafia confirmed. I will carry on the torch Vivax
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March 22 2018 23:46 GMT
#1981
On March 23 2018 08:45 Koshi wrote:
Kelsier is also top town. But w.e. df is most likely mafia.


Wrong!
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March 22 2018 23:47 GMT
#1982
On March 23 2018 08:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Mocsta, why ExO and not darthfoley or Conversion or someone else?

You realize you are suggesting 2 names I also want to kill right. From before eon.

Dont focus on the flashy players and go for people who are hiding. Dont paranoia yourself thinking some master mind mafia is being super active.


Well you have three pages of filter
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March 22 2018 23:49 GMT
#1985
On March 23 2018 08:47 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:45 Koshi wrote:
Kelsier is also top town. But w.e. df is most likely mafia.


Wrong!
stop actively delurking - i have noticed it a lot this game.

vivax had a reason for it, so didnt bother me. - with you, it is starting to.


I can only hope you feel both hot and bothered
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March 22 2018 23:51 GMT
#1986
Logically speaking, taking Mocsta's claim at face value, Conversion and n00bking are almost surely 1 scum between them. Perhaps two, but idk.

I just can't get over how quickly Conversion's wagon fell off. And n00bking was stuck at 4(?) votes forever in a pretty volatile EoD where votes were going all over the place
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March 22 2018 23:57 GMT
#1990
On March 23 2018 08:54 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:51 darthfoley wrote:
Logically speaking, taking Mocsta's claim at face value, Conversion and n00bking are almost surely 1 scum between them. Perhaps two, but idk.


Why? Like how has Mocsta's claim anything to do with these guys alignment?


Because with as much movement as there was EoD, it's hard to believe the 5 popular wagons were all town

Rels -- flipped town
Mocsta -- claimed vig + shot went through
darthfoley -- your friendly vanilla town
n00bking -- ???
Conversion -- ???

If I accept that both nk/conversion are town, it's basically saying that mafia were sitting back, laughing maniacally while town just acted like chickens with their heads cut off.
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March 22 2018 23:58 GMT
#1992
On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote:
DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well.


I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod
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March 23 2018 00:01 GMT
#1996
On March 23 2018 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:57 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:54 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:51 darthfoley wrote:
Logically speaking, taking Mocsta's claim at face value, Conversion and n00bking are almost surely 1 scum between them. Perhaps two, but idk.


Why? Like how has Mocsta's claim anything to do with these guys alignment?


Because with as much movement as there was EoD, it's hard to believe the 5 popular wagons were all town

Rels -- flipped town
Mocsta -- claimed vig + shot went through
darthfoley -- your friendly vanilla town
n00bking -- ???
Conversion -- ???

If I accept that both nk/conversion are town, it's basically saying that mafia were sitting back, laughing maniacally while town just acted like chickens with their heads cut off.

lol... what a shitty reasoning. As if there HAD to be mafia in those wagons. Maybe there was maybe not. Who gives a fuck. Starting your entire line of thought with that is laughably bad play.


Honestly I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else considers bad play. I'm gonna play the way I want and you all can do whatever you want.

No shit "maybe there was maybe there wasn't"

and you're either town or mafia. Thanks for such an enlightening point. What do you mean "who gives a fuck?" Obviously I do
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#1997
On March 23 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:58 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote:
DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well.


I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod

Exactly. You are not solving this game friend. One of the big players is playing underwhelming and calling you mafia and you dont bring his name up talking to us...

His name should pop up way more in your posts. But it isnt. I wonder why.


Have you actually read my filter? I've consistently scum read rayn since beginning of game.

I've literally called his play underwhelming and boring as fuck multiple times. Have you read anything?
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#1999
I've also pointed out multiple times how factually inaccurate and misleading (and weak) his case was on me.

Like I really don't understand what the fuck you're talking about

He votes Rels "because he looks terrible." Rayn usually posts a boring 4 page essay on people he votes for, so that's unusual
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#2001
I apologize for not mentioning rayn enough in my filter.

A quick control + F of my filter shows I only mentioned his name or interacted with him 58 times. And I only called him scummy like 5 times. Truly terrible form by me and I will commit time and energy to remedying this truly unfortunate circumstance
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#2003
Maybe HF just dropped the knowledge bomb about Ticktock before he perished. That would be cool
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#2014
On March 23 2018 10:09 Mocsta wrote:
btw. darthfoley is throwing out lots of insinuations and letting others fill the gap.

i dont like & am now willing to lynch.
p100 is really terrible.


I've played like 6 games in a row and i'm burned out. I don't have the drive to filter dive hardcore so i'm playing lazy. I can see why people don't like it but i'm probably not gonna get too inspired.
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#2076
On March 23 2018 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh i forgot. I will keep a list of this. Idk what other people read as big names but here's the list still:
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On March 23 2018 06:24 darthfoley wrote:
I don't think he's been aggressive enough with the other big names.

Holyflare
Vivax - although i have absolutely no idea why Vivax was shot here since this game he was never going to convince anyone of anything, at least alive. Probably medic dodge.
Mocsta - i for once agree with Koshi here 100%
Koshi - townread
Palmar - townread
rsoultin - townread

rels - i am pretty sure df can't claim i wasn't being aggressive with Rels since i voted for him, twice.
We will see if i would actually need to be aggressive with big names. So far looking pretty good for df, don't you think?



Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside.

However my feeling this game is that your primary concern is convincing me that IM mafia, not convincing other people. Yes, you've obviously interacted with people, but I don't think you've been particularly concerned as to whether people actually sheep you or not.

You've also spent a lot of time calling me bad which is typical for you, but recently it's almost as if you're calling me bad rather than scum. Proving to everyone how bad I am rather than proving to people how I'm scum.
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#2078
On March 23 2018 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will most likely sheep Holyflare or Palmar here. That honestly probably means i will vote for noobking or tictock actually instead. I am gonna let df and disformation be and say "i told you so" post game.


So you think disformation is either

1) faking vet claim
2) actually mafia veteran (agree with HF that this would be kind of OP unless Town got lots of KP)
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#2080
On March 23 2018 18:46 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:35 Koshi wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:32 Tictock wrote:
On March 23 2018 06:32 Koshi wrote:
Man I was going to post this on deadline but w.e.
I think the risk is too high cool people will die.
RIP 3 townies.

I am paying attention. Suprise!
Best reads in spoiler. Town MVP Throphy = thx.
Mafia will probably win if slightly mafia balanced. Too much KP. Too many limited town players.

+ Show Spoiler +
Top town
18. Coagulation (town seal)
9. KelsierSC (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
6. rsoultin (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
7. Vivax (tip top town, because he lives in Vivax world)

Townish

3. ExO_ (Some1 mindmelded with him. The mindmeldee is mostly town. Other than that he doesn't look good)
17. Tictock (I said this after a post he made)
4. Mocsta (seems lost. Being lost here is good)
20. MoosyDoosy (I think he is town just based on thread sentiment against him)

I have hope for these players
15. Palmar (high hopes)
1. Holyflare (less high hopes)

Can flip either way
8. raynpelikoneet (not enough cares during lynch, nothing smart during night, pushes the idea df is town on something he didn't read properly. But he seems a bit lost which is townie)
14. disformation (still looks mafia to me)
10. ykl (Meh, needs more sass, way too safe)
11. n00bking (He might be good at playing mafia, I think he is town)
5. Alakaslam (potential false prophet)

mafia
2. Conversion (I call him mafia, he says I am always wrong on his alignment.)
12. darthfoley (I call him mafia, he says I am wrong.)
16. Fecalfeast (0 impact)


Odd Koshi knew there was gunna be 3 townies dead. Also feel weird he townreads me when I feel like I should probably be null at best for most people.

Eh I guess it would be a pretty weird scum slip to announce how much KP they have, on the other hand this is Koshi...

Just like Mocsta I think we blocked 1 kp tbh. Mafia kp is 4/2=2 and I think they have either a vigi or strongarm. The balance seems fine this game.

If they have a Vigi, then Mocsta would have been the 3rd mafia kp (I feel this is unlikely though). If they have a Strongman, and Town vigi was the 3rd kill, there is still not a KP "blocked" anywhere. So why do you assume one was blocked somewhere? (Man, sure would be nice to know how many mafia are in the game, HUH?)


If they strongman shot a VT then it wouldn't actually be KP right? I think that's how it usually works. so there may have been blocked kp from an inaccurate shot
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March 23 2018 10:14 GMT
#2082
On March 23 2018 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:08 darthfoley wrote:
Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside.

I see, i should be aggressive towards my townreads. Noted.
The rest is also bs. Apparently you haven't seen me playing lately.


You're usually aggressive with everyone.

lol everything anyone says about you ever is BS just because you disagree.

And then if I die and flip town you will blame me for not being townier even though you refused to see it. Cannot wait
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March 23 2018 10:17 GMT
#2084
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.


Yes, this is a good point and I will probably sheep it. It would make his arrogant "I'm the best post" even sweeter
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#2087
On March 23 2018 13:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
You know I completely forgot noobking was in this game. Not a good sign


This is also a feeling I had after n00bking made that arrogant "I'm the best player to walk the earth" post. That's the last thing I remember him doing, saying, or believing.

I hesistate comparing this game to last game too much because last game was themed and very hard for mafia. But n00bjing had a strong D1 last game and a semi strong D1 this game (at least in terms of activity). I also agreed with HF/Mocsta's assessment of him early.
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March 23 2018 10:26 GMT
#2089
On March 23 2018 16:55 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I don't disagree on nk, mocsta. I expected some night action analysis given his perception of how the game should be played and there wasn't any that i noticed?

As for conversion...he feels different than the game I was scum in. Like wasn't he trying to be a new and better conversion? Don't see that here at all.


This is something I agree with. In that game he felt like he was being bold for reasons. He was saying "fuck you, this is what I think" and explaining stuff. This game feels more like "fuck you, just because."
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March 23 2018 10:26 GMT
#2091
On March 23 2018 19:22 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><

I provided 3 meaningful discussion points? Maybe discuss them? ONE person has made ONE comment on ONE of the 3 of them.


Can you TL;dr them
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March 23 2018 10:30 GMT
#2093
On March 23 2018 14:28 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
@darth second question, regarding the point I made earlier on that ticktock just reposted. Why did you leave exo off town list ?
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
I left ExO the town list because my opinion of him decreased
This marks one of the first times DF breaks from roleplay and its important.

Like, what DF writes is technically consistent with the below: however, in context of Kelsier point, its total bullshit.

+ Show Spoiler [Kelsier good point] +
On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote:
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On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen.


yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided.

In terms of actual bad stuff. He liked a post that exo had made which wasn't that good.

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On March 20 2018 08:27 darthfoley wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


Looks like this chap 'ere as a 'ead on his shoulders


I can understand exo's defence of this post but I don't like the post in general.

he also leaves exo off his list of town afterwards

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On March 20 2018 12:45 darthfoley wrote:
Chester Campbell believes he dun found some good folk to confide in as he rids the streets of petty 'n big boss crime.

The likes of Vivax, Alakaslam Mocsta and Conversion seem like good blokes, eager to help the coppers

Chester is keeping a wary eye out for any bad hombres


gives the impression that he doesn't really care who his town circle is and just wants to throw some names out.
I'd lynch him and not just to stop the terrible RP.

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On March 21 2018 03:26 darthfoley wrote:
I think HF and Vivax are probably town. ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.

I'm voting Kelscier partially because he's been the least enjoyable player so far, and partially because I think ExO made a fairly decent point that I agree with about Kelscier's vote on disformation.

....


I'm not sure why you're seeing but if you've played within ExO before you'd understand that he is truly lynchbait territory no matter what every game.

I had a few feelings that he was Town lynchbait, given we agreed on a couple reads. But I didn't have the confidence in townreading him that I had for HF/Vivax... so I didn't include him.
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#2095
On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><

I can tell you about this mafia god town play. Gets poceted super hard by 2/3 mafia D1. Tunnels one of the only two people who try to lynch mafia in the game. Gets lynched D1.

Hahahaha. As I mentioned before, I have only been lynched D1 ONE time, in all my years of playing these games. ONE.

In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.


I appreciate the caps lock frequency. It really screams "I'm secure about my ability as a player."
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 10:33 GMT
#2097
Okay it's now 6:30AM and I need to get out of my warm, comfy bed. Ugh. I'll be back much much later
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March 23 2018 10:35 GMT
#2100
On March 23 2018 19:33 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.

Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.

"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
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On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.

He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.

Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"


Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."

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March 23 2018 10:36 GMT
#2101
On March 23 2018 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.

wrong. you also voted for me. you also tunneled me all D1 when i was doing nothing but trying to lynch mafia1 and mafia2. It was your fault you were mislynched because you were so bad and you would have never lynched any mafia in that game regardless of where your votes were.

In the next game as mafia you decided it's a good plan to roleblock yourself to give town another mislynch as last mafia alive immediately losing you the game so sorry i have a really hard time seeing you being a world class mafia player.

Now talk about something that is not your ego.


Flames
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 11:41 GMT
#2120
On March 23 2018 19:35 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:33 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.

Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.

"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.

He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.

Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"


Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 17:44 GMT
#2195
On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:35 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track

What would lead you to this assumption?

Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion.

Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration.


Lol I think ykl is town
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 17:47 GMT
#2196
On March 23 2018 22:36 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 20:52 Conversion wrote:
also recent posts here give me good vibes about people who jumped on me, so I’m now wondering whether the 6 votes on me was a pure wagon.. hm. contrary to my previous opinion of that wagon not being pure


anyways, just as a clarification to this point-- if there are any scum in my wagon I'd have to narrow it down to Koshi/DF, more leaning towards DF.

that's what I meant when I though the wagon wasn't pure, but I am now unsure.


So I'm the scum who went out on a limb and started a Conversion wagon instead of consolidating on another wagon? And everyone else (6 people) who followed me were all town.

okay
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 17:48 GMT
#2197
On March 23 2018 22:45 Conversion wrote:
Meanwhile KSC has used an offensive slur against DF and called him for acting gay, and no one blinks an eye.


Oh I noticed that. I think the guy is a huge dick so I haven't been interested in interacting with him. I appreciate you calling him out too
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 17:49 GMT
#2199
On March 23 2018 23:20 Conversion wrote:
I'm not mad at people calling me mafia I'm mad at people telling me my behavior has been shitty. where the fuck do you people get off talking shit about my behavior while you silently condone a dude literally making homophobic slurs and calling people outright retarded?


Because that guy "looks townie!!!!!" so it's okay.

/s
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 17:55 GMT
#2204
##Vote: n00bking
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 17:57 GMT
#2210
On March 24 2018 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Where were there slurs?


On March 22 2018 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
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On March 22 2018 07:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 Mocsta wrote:
DF

sorry to distract, but. . why did you stop doing chester?

like I know why i stopped doing a post restriction.


I was only gonna do Chester Campbell (shout to Peaky Blinders btw, top tier show) for early D1. But then Palmar and Kelscier were dicks about it for no reason and KSC even made up some shit scum read on it, so I decided that I would only be in character if I were directly responding to a quoted post of theirs.

I haven't been the best at following that, but that's my goal. Annoy the shit out of them and be vindictive, while normally interacting with everyone else.


im sure if you want to pretend to be a gay gypsy detective you can find some other forum to suit your desires.


On March 22 2018 07:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:50 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:44 Mocsta wrote:
DF

sorry to distract, but. . why did you stop doing chester?

like I know why i stopped doing a post restriction.


I was only gonna do Chester Campbell (shout to Peaky Blinders btw, top tier show) for early D1. But then Palmar and Kelscier were dicks about it for no reason and KSC even made up some shit scum read on it, so I decided that I would only be in character if I were directly responding to a quoted post of theirs.

I haven't been the best at following that, but that's my goal. Annoy the shit out of them and be vindictive, while normally interacting with everyone else.


im sure if you want to pretend to be a gay gypsy detective you can find some other forum to suit your desires.


1. He's not gay
2. He's not a gypsy
3. If this was supposed to be humorous, it missed the mark


must have been the way you were RPing it, my mistake


So yea, it was definitely meant to be an insult. But i'm going to leave this to post game actions discussion
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March 23 2018 17:58 GMT
#2215
On March 24 2018 02:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:31 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><

I can tell you about this mafia god town play. Gets poceted super hard by 2/3 mafia D1. Tunnels one of the only two people who try to lynch mafia in the game. Gets lynched D1.

Hahahaha. As I mentioned before, I have only been lynched D1 ONE time, in all my years of playing these games. ONE.

In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.


I appreciate the caps lock frequency. It really screams "I'm secure about my ability as a player."

jesus christ


Why did you post this 10 times?
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 18:00 GMT
#2219
On March 24 2018 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:17 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.


Yes, this is a good point and I will probably sheep it. It would make his arrogant "I'm the best post" even sweeter

The ironyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

rayn may be arrogant as shit but what you posted was as equally arrogant darthfoley


Fair enough
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 23 2018 18:04 GMT
#2230
On March 24 2018 03:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
OH HEY MY NAME IS DARTHFOLEY BTW RAYN YOUR ARROGANT AS SHIT I DONT LIKE YOU HAHAA 12 BTW BTW IM GOING TO CALL NOOBKING ABSOLUTE SHIT BECAUSE HE DOESNT PLAY THE WAY I WANT HIM TOO HAHAA 12 BTW EKS DEE NOT ARROGANT AT ALL MYSELF HAHAA


Where did I call n00bking absolute shit? I made a sarcastic comment about his use of caps lock.

My point was that most people who are the best don't feel the need to remind people constantly. I don't think he's a shit player. But I also don't think he's mafia Jesus
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March 23 2018 18:16 GMT
#2241
On March 24 2018 03:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 19:35 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:33 n00bKing wrote:
On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up*
Good post.
I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.

This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.

I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.

So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.

I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.


On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:
To clarify to slower than normal people:

a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:

On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.

Nervous about something?

Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?

"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.

"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"


Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.

Then in the post about me:


s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.


He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:

On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here.


On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.

His filter is basically empty.


Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.

So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.

The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.

This is actually a great case

Oh and this part:

That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.


I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".


We're killing noobking today.

I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.

Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.

I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.

Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.

"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.

He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.

Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"


Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."

Similar to last game

lol OBJECTIVELY untrue.

You say noobking had a strong D1 last game
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 23 2018 19:22 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 13:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
You know I completely forgot noobking was in this game. Not a good sign


This is also a feeling I had after n00bking made that arrogant "I'm the best player to walk the earth" post. That's the last thing I remember him doing, saying, or believing.

I hesistate comparing this game to last game too much because last game was themed and very hard for mafia. But n00bjing had a strong D1 last game and a semi strong D1 this game (at least in terms of activity). I also agreed with HF/Mocsta's assessment of him early.

And if you read the scum QT you'd know that noobking gave up after prplhz got lynched D1 which is why his posts went to absolute shit afterwards. It's why his D1 and afterwards were completely different.

So unless you're lying and noobking DIDN'T have a strong D1, you're an idiot and this post makes no sense :D


He had a strong d1 last game, but that was mainly from activity and length. I, like others, felt he fell off hard after D1. It's understandable given his situation with prplhz. I never read the mafia QT because I didn't care much about a themed quirky game.

Thanks for calling me an idiot!
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#2243
On March 24 2018 03:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On March 24 2018 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 23 2018 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You too Tina.
Last game i actually played i instantly caught you for all the right reasons regardless of what you say and think.
You can keep your Koshi circle too.

On March 23 2018 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:08 darthfoley wrote:
Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside.

I see, i should be aggressive towards my townreads. Noted.
The rest is also bs. Apparently you haven't seen me playing lately.

Dude. Rayn. Tone down the aggression. Absolutely nothing transpired that warrants this aggression or anger from you. You get scum read, sucks man. Wagons don't go your way, feels bad. It doesn't warrant an outpouring of whining and anger. In fact, things are generally going your way and the majority of people are town reading you.

Same thing with rsoultin.

I get that you guys are veterans of this site and might feel entitled for some reason but I feel uncomfortable that you guys frequently flip the whiny frustrated switch at the smallest sign of resistance. And it contributes to a substantially shittier game.

I dont think i am being aggressive, sarcastic yes.
I get frustrated when people cant even think why i am doing the things i do. It doesnt matter to me if they scumread me or not but i cba to argue in my defense against things that are completely hilarious.

Idk, i might start playing like disformation here, just comment on every thing that goes on in thread but never actually do anything with any information. I promise i will do that next game, it will for my own amusement.

Dont even ask why i react to Koshi as i do.

Funnily enough i do t feel like talking to anyone in this game atm except for Palmar and Mocsta, aside from you. Nothing has been done today except apparently people managed to kill Conversion and dick move analysis alone says he is town, so well done moat likely.

Im just gonna get drunk tonight and probably tomorrow as well.

-pokes-

I keep making people not want to play. Including myself. Join me on heroes?

I'm not even sure what I've been doing so wrong this game >< other than being wrong a whole fucking lot. But yeah.


Idk I've never felt like you make me not want to play; quite the opposite actually. You remind me of an irl mafia friend so perhaps that helps
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March 23 2018 18:19 GMT
#2245
On March 24 2018 03:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On March 15 2018 11:24 darthfoley wrote:
On March 15 2018 10:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
What Mocsta says is very true. I definitely contributed to the toxicity during my stay here in the past but it was definitely encouraged by others.

This game wasn't that bad in terms of bullying or telling people they suck so I did enjoy playing.


Yes, there are some people I know I won't enjoy playing with as much as others for the reasons you state.

I do agree that too often, people go to the OMGUS method. This game I didn't for a few reasons. I don't even know what other sites people play on, so I can't really have other reference points.

I just didn't think this game was the right time to bring that up. There have defffffinitely been a few games where I would 100% agree with you and Mocsta

Can we all remember this glorious quote from darthfoley from last game

eks dee haHAA


Yup, and I don't think that post was particularly controversial. I would say that generally Mocsta is being proven right this game
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March 23 2018 18:20 GMT
#2247
On March 24 2018 03:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know why slam ragequit? I read the last posts of his filter but I don’t really understand what pissed him off


No idea actually. It seemed to come out of nowhere
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March 23 2018 21:19 GMT
#2275
On March 24 2018 05:54 Tictock wrote:
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On March 23 2018 22:46 Conversion wrote:
I'm done with this. All of you can just waste your fucking day and policy lynch me.


Uhh what? This was a pretty civil discussion until you apparently wound yourself up over shit that happened days ago?

I hate to potentially add fuel to the fire here, but this comes off as fake to me. Like nobody is even talking about lynching you today and Rsoul is very clearly trying to have a civil discussion. Compared to your reaction when there was a giant wagon forming on you yesterday I’m just left scratching my head here.


I mean he wasn't bluffing. The dude got himself modkilled
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#2276
On March 24 2018 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
I work in 7. Cyall later


Who's your favorite smasher?
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March 23 2018 23:39 GMT
#2293
On March 24 2018 08:28 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 03:04 darthfoley wrote:
I don't think he's a shit player. But I also don't think he's mafia Jesus

This is a pic of me from December, choking out a so-called "strongman."

[image loading]


lmaooo I don't know if I can ever vote for you after that
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March 24 2018 03:41 GMT
#2365
On March 24 2018 11:41 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 24 2018 06:19 darthfoley wrote:
On March 24 2018 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
I work in 7. Cyall later


Who's your favorite smasher?

Ness- but used to be Peach.

For Project M, I play Zero Suit Samus or Ness.


it's all about that knee of justice my man
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March 24 2018 03:42 GMT
#2367
On March 24 2018 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Regarding this i actually have one thing to say.

darthfoley, since i have completely forgotten what i think your alignment is do you remember who was the guy who said one or both of us have to be mafia? Basically he called the argument between us "forced" but couldn't tell if we are both mafia (which is always the case if an argument is forced). But then he added the "if not both at least one" which is completely bs since if a townie and mafia are arguing and you cannot tell which one of those is mafia then it is equally likely the argument is TvS than that it is TvT.


Yes I remember what you're talking about but I can't remember who it was. I'll try to find it
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March 24 2018 03:43 GMT
#2369
On March 24 2018 12:19 Tictock wrote:
Yea just glancing through a bit of KSC's filter.
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On March 22 2018 07:28 KelsierSC wrote:
why are we acting like fucking retards all of a sudden and going oprah on our votes.

df, moosy , dis if you dont believe the claim are the only real choices.

I don't understand the mocsta voting at all.


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On March 22 2018 07:38 KelsierSC wrote:
voting is pretty interesting here, Im tempted to vote mocsta because if he flips scum then like most of the scum are on this conversion vote.

Moosy jumping on it at the end is really fucking dumpster.



Pretty big change in stance on Mocsta, with not many posts happening between.

And Conversion too?
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On March 22 2018 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
or they were worried about df being lynched...

this conversion wagon is really fucking bad lol

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On March 22 2018 07:43 KelsierSC wrote:
i dont want like 3 wagons competing with conversions wagon

keep it clean

vote df or conversion of give a real fucking good reason why you are wasting your vote.


Honestly all I read here was pg 5 of KSC's filter and I feel like the dude never gave a shit about how EoD went. Only consistent scumread is DF, but mostly what he was doing was just shouting at everyone and calling them bad, while flip slopping his own reads all over the place.

Solid lynch right here.


Yes, yes! Let it flow through you.
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#2371
On March 24 2018 12:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 12:41 darthfoley wrote:
On March 24 2018 11:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 24 2018 06:19 darthfoley wrote:
On March 24 2018 04:53 Alakaslam wrote:
I work in 7. Cyall later


Who's your favorite smasher?

Ness- but used to be Peach.

For Project M, I play Zero Suit Samus or Ness.


it's all about that knee of justice my man

There is much to be said for the flying fist that has the punch of Chupazi


Real Chupazi
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March 24 2018 14:49 GMT
#2475
I'm at a teacher training shit all day today and I won't have time until maybe maybe deadline on mobile.

I can understand why people are scumreading me. I've been underwhelming and passive, but that frankly because I'm busy as hell and I've played a lot of consecutive mafia games. Im burned out and Im definitely going to obs next game.

@rayn I couldn't find a post but I think it may have been Mocsta who made that read on us. Idk cba to read 20 filters

If you feel the need to lynch me, oh well I guess. I won't be able to give you much until night.
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March 24 2018 14:50 GMT
#2476
If you have specific questions you would like me to answer that includes quotes, I'll do my best to respond, but no promises
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March 24 2018 14:51 GMT
#2477
But if you're going to call me scummy, you need to believe that this is my scum meta. It isn't. It's just my 20 player, burned out and not having much fun meta. And I happen to be town
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March 24 2018 14:59 GMT
#2483
On March 24 2018 23:52 Mocsta wrote:
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On March 24 2018 23:49 darthfoley wrote:
I'm at a teacher training shit all day today and I won't have time until maybe maybe deadline on mobile.

I can understand why people are scumreading me. I've been underwhelming and passive, but that frankly because I'm busy as hell and I've played a lot of consecutive mafia games. Im burned out and Im definitely going to obs next game.

@rayn I couldn't find a post but I think it may have been Mocsta who made that read on us. Idk cba to read 20 filters

If you feel the need to lynch me, oh well I guess. I won't be able to give you much until night.

Im certain it was me too

I havent read any of ya arguments in detail cos skims as petty.
Thats already an alarm bell.

Exo / kelsier felt emotional hence tvt

Btw. Nice delurk on queue as well.
Im very impressed. Do you use an alert app?


No I just check on mobile and respond when I feel like it. And I don't feel like it most of the time.
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March 24 2018 15:05 GMT
#2489
On March 24 2018 23:53 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:51 darthfoley wrote:
But if you're going to call me scummy, you need to believe that this is my scum meta. It isn't. It's just my 20 player, burned out and not having much fun meta. And I happen to be town

But itz been like this from day1

When i reread first 30pages
You were much more underwhelminf than i had remembered

This is nothinf to do with roleplay


That's fine I guess. I don't disagree that my motivation is low. But it doesn't make me scum. I'm just committing to my day 1 reads because I haven't had much motivation or time to read 70 pages critically enough to feel comfortable changing reads over anything besides "vibes" or "tone"

Plus waking up every day with 15-20 pages to read sucks
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March 24 2018 21:55 GMT
#2530
On March 25 2018 02:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of agree with rayn. I think noobking is scum here but I want to see other players' alignments first like darth.

I guarantee if darth flips scum, then ykl is scum as well


What do I have to do with ykl? You've been randomly associating people all game, including me and rsoultin etc.

But you never really push me as a viable lynch option. Laziness or?
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March 24 2018 23:13 GMT
#2612
Wowowow

I will make sense of this somehow. Jesus
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March 24 2018 23:15 GMT
#2617
On March 25 2018 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
currently i'm just wondering why the hell nk felt the need to troll us when he could have easily claimed tracker and who he tracked @.@ at least get the info into the thread

the only explanation i have for it is not something that i can say without bordering on flaming


Yes. There will be much post game discussion. Seriously wtf
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March 24 2018 23:19 GMT
#2624
On March 25 2018 08:17 Palmar wrote:
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On March 25 2018 08:13 rsoultin wrote:
currently i'm just wondering why the hell nk felt the need to troll us when he could have easily claimed tracker and who he tracked @.@ at least get the info into the thread

the only explanation i have for it is not something that i can say without bordering on flaming

Oh I'll flame

He's a presumptuous ass who believes his greatness is a blessing and diplomacy with lesser beings such as us is beneath him. If we can't see his greatness we shall be punished.

I'm 100% never going to try to figure out if he crumbed a track somewhere in the verbal diarrhea that was his posting.


Find the shitstain in the shitstack!
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March 24 2018 23:20 GMT
#2626
This means all five wagons day 1 were Town man.

If that ain't "big boys (or girls) are mafia" idk what is
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March 24 2018 23:27 GMT
#2633
I think we have a doc tbh hehe
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March 24 2018 23:54 GMT
#2650
On March 25 2018 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, off-the cuff gut, Palmar/Koshi.

Town koshi isn't shining through.
Palmar is playing on the weekend.

Slam might be the third.

Not sure on the fourth. FF can always be scum. Or just not. Cause yeah, how does anyone read FF? I'd advise against going for the low-hanging fruit. Put on y'all's big-boy pants, because if we just lynch players who always look like they could be scum, that's game unless we get the luck of the draw.

Will have to reread everything and see what looks different @.@

If you're town, DF, I need you to pull out all the stops. You and mocsta. If my world is in any way near the truth, we're going to have to do the heavy lifting. And I can't confidently say you're town here, DF. Make my life easier.


I know. I can't say I'm 100% of you being Town. But your tone feels townie so I will probably just have to hope I'm not getting played.

Are you still confident on rayn being Town? Like really confident?
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March 25 2018 00:14 GMT
#2678
Mocsta
Alakaslam
rsoultin
rayn
darthfoley
disformation
Palmar
FecalFeast
Coagulation
Koshi
Moosy

11 people left. It's probably 7v4. Damn damn damn.

Just gonna assume Coag is town. That stupid seal thing is whatever. I'm gonna believe Mocsta claim. If I just close my eyes and town read rsoultin, there are (probably) 4 mafia within

Koshi
Moosy
FecalFeast
disformation
rayn
Alakaslam
Palmar

4/7 or 4/6 if I believe disformation's vet claim.
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March 25 2018 00:15 GMT
#2680
On March 25 2018 09:11 rsoultin wrote:
rofl ><

this is where a town concede button would just be so nice ><

okay, so slam isn't the third scum

koshi/palmar even more likely to be scum though \o/


Nah we ain't conceding this shit. I want to win just so n00bking can + Show Spoiler +
fuck off
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March 25 2018 00:20 GMT
#2686
Wait wtf Slam is now also modkilled?

Holy balls.
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March 25 2018 00:25 GMT
#2691
On March 25 2018 09:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 09:18 Tictock wrote:
I'm just going to throw out the option of scum conceding and all of us just calling this game a terrible terrible wash?

Is that something we could do?


try and convince them that they don't want to win a game this lame? have at it

okay, now i'm legitimately just spamming

going to bed. will tackle this in the morning. go on my non-euro minions!

df <3 i'd love for you to prove my earlier filter dive right and stick it to nk who is probably gloating in obs about how awful this site and its players are


Koshi
Moosy
FecalFeast
disformation
rayn
Alakaslam
Palmar

4/6 are mafia or 4/5 if disformation is actually vet.

Unfortunately without a hero medic save, the game ends tonight. 3 town modkills for activity + 1 town rage quit modkill is perhaps a new TL record. Can't help but admit that n00bking is 100% on this game. What a sham.

Anyways,

I'm very confident Koshi is mafia. Like 99%. It makes much sense. We should lynch him ASAP. Team is probably Koshi/Moosy/FecalFeast/Palmar or rayn. Probably Palmar.

Koshi/Moosy/FF/Palmar
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March 25 2018 00:26 GMT
#2692
shit forgot about Ticktock. God damn it
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March 25 2018 00:27 GMT
#2693
I'm fairly confident Moosy is mafia too.

His making fun of n00bking/me/rayn feels like TMI mafia making fun of three arrogant towns for tearing each other apart. Reads almost in a gloating way.
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March 25 2018 00:37 GMT
#2696
On March 22 2018 08:02 Calix wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count


Rels [7]: Mocsta, rsoultin, Mocsta, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, Conversion, darthfoley, n00bking, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Mocsta [4]: MoosyDoosy, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, MoosyDoosy, Rels, MoosyDoosy
darthfoley [3]: KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Conversion, disformation, ykl, raynpelikoneet
Conversion [1]: Koshi, darthfoley, disformation, rsoultin, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy
KelsierSC [1]: ExO_, darthfoley, Vivax, MoosyDoosy
n00bking [1]: Conversion, Holyflare, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy, Tictock, Fecalfeast, disformation
disformation [1]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, Palmar
rsoultin [0]: Alakaslam, Rels
sicklucker [0]: n00bking
Alakaslam [0]: rsoultin
ExO_ [0]: Vivax, Tictock, MoosyDoosy
ykl [0]: Alakaslam
Tictock [0]: Mocsta, MoosyDoosy
Palmar [0]: Koshi

Not Voting [2]: Coagulation, Alakaslam


Rels is the lynch!

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .


I went ahead and green'd Coagulation for the seal thing, and blue'd Mocsta.

rsoultin and rayn on Rels
FecalFeast and Moosy on Mocsta
disformation on darthfoley
Koshi on Conversion
Ticktock on n00bking
Palmar on disformation.

The coloring is rough. Interesting looking at disformation's votes
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 00:40 GMT
#2698
On March 25 2018 09:40 Mocsta wrote:
Well vote wasters arw koshi palmar and tictock

One of ff and moose also

Nice move putting yaself green lol


I mean yea. Of course i'm going to put myself green
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 00:46 GMT
#2700
On March 25 2018 09:41 Mocsta wrote:
Like its weird rayn two days ina row finds reasons to jymp off the top wagon that is town

But weird is prob just town evaluating vs. Scummy concerned about how they look


My biggest concern with rayn, off the top of my head rather than reading his filter, is that this game he's felt all too comfortable not being in control or leading lynches.

Like he's called me mafia for a couple days but did he ever truly try to get me lynched? He even ended up even voting with me on Rels (after I had voted for Rels). Has he really tried to get anyone lynched? His lack of aggression (and yes, aggression is different from shit fighting) is troubling.

Palmar/Koshi/rayn all consider themselves alpha males, but all three have been playing like betas. We need to find the difference between lazy play and scum
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 00:51 GMT
#2701
On March 25 2018 02:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of agree with rayn. I think noobking is scum here but I want to see other players' alignments first like darth.

I guarantee if darth flips scum, then ykl is scum as well


Like wtf is this post. He has thrown random association posts out all game with no explanation ever.

On March 23 2018 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If Mocsta is vig then Koshi is probably Mafia.

If holyflare is correct tictock is mafia and rsoultin is town. If rsoultin is town then darthfoley might be town and conversion mafia.



Notice how Moosy has completely forgotten this read on Koshi.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 01:01 GMT
#2702
On March 23 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:58 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote:
DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well.


I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod

Exactly. You are not solving this game friend. One of the big players is playing underwhelming and calling you mafia and you dont bring his name up talking to us...

His name should pop up way more in your posts. But it isnt. I wonder why.


On March 23 2018 09:02 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:58 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote:
DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well.


I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod

Exactly. You are not solving this game friend. One of the big players is playing underwhelming and calling you mafia and you dont bring his name up talking to us...

His name should pop up way more in your posts. But it isnt. I wonder why.


Have you actually read my filter? I've consistently scum read rayn since beginning of game.

I've literally called his play underwhelming and boring as fuck multiple times. Have you read anything?


On March 23 2018 09:06 darthfoley wrote:
I apologize for not mentioning rayn enough in my filter.

A quick control + F of my filter shows I only mentioned his name or interacted with him 58 times. And I only called him scummy like 5 times. Truly terrible form by me and I will commit time and energy to remedying this truly unfortunate circumstance


On March 23 2018 09:07 Koshi wrote:
Well. I am not reading a lot of posts tbh.
I'll read your filter later df. Hopefully what you say is true.

Palmar seems like a friend to town. At least we think alike.

I have like 6 names I could lynch today. At best there is 3 mafia in them. 1 mafia is probably within my townier people so that is why my townier people need to democratically vote within the 6. Highest chance to hit mafia. Dont only advocate for your own lynch. Think globally.


Lemme just remind you how much I hated this interaction with Koshi. It's funny that the first bolded sentence, he's supposedly talking about rayn but I think he's actually talking about himself sneakily.

He calls me out for blatantly false things, says he will read my filter later, then never comes back to it. This is after calling me scum repeatedly (but never actually casing me or putting any effort into getting me lynched.) You'd think this would be a top priority: one of his top scum reads telling him he's completely wrong about something. But he doesn't even care to check.

Compare that to rayn saying something about me, I checked that shit ASAP because I didn't remember it the same way.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 01:03 GMT
#2703
Like many people have sworn i'm scum this game but no one has had the balls to try and lynch me. But why would scum try to lead a mislynch on me when town is imploding (e.g. the leading 5 wagons are all town)?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 01:22 GMT
#2705
On March 25 2018 10:16 rsoultin wrote:
Ye koshi and moosy priority lynches. Maybe koshi over moosy but pretty certain both are scum here.

More to self to check theory in morning.

You also may be right on rayn. My general thought with him is he'd be less likely to adapt to how I read him with many other bigger names in the game. Might not be true if mafia is just hella stacked though.


Yea pretty sure Koshi is scum. Moosy probably scum for a variety of things.

I still don't know how we survive until tomorrow without a hero save
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 01:24 GMT
#2706
Rayn/Palmar/Koshi/Moosy would be interesting.

I think it was Vivax who was uncomfortable with rayn town reading HF so easily. Called it semi TMI I think?
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 01:44 GMT
#2715
On March 25 2018 10:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 10:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 24 2018 16:41 n00bKing wrote:
On March 24 2018 16:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I’m not going to be an unwarranted ass, and I apologize for the above.

Cool. If you're Town, and something I said made you feel disrespected in some way, I apologize as well.

Who you wanna lynch?

I still have to read, could ask you the same lol. Still couldn’t tell from your filter.

Work went long and I’m about to go into town for a few drinks. But I’ll be back and I’ll finish reading

You've been modkilled dude. Ggs


Lol @ this game
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 01:44 GMT
#2716
On March 25 2018 10:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 17:21 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 16:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Dammit.

I recognize the only reason I am so peeved by your arrogance is because of the extent of my own.

But man you can’t get anywhere in this game humbly. I recognize that now.

But there comes that point where you are being blinded by it, that’s just more than I like to see, idk.


-pokes- you seem to have a pretty good handle on noob. I'm not clear on your posts...do you think he's scum this game? It seems like maybe you don't.

You were talking about how they played on the other site and scum basically playing chicken shit. What bugs me most about noob is his focus on afkers to the exclusion of everything but his counterwagon this phase. Am I wrong to be bugged by that? I.e. is that just how he's been taught to scumhunt on the other site because scum there are chicken shit?

Not necessarily- but if he’s Levi, especially no.

Levi is someone who can go toe to toe with Blazinghand beautifully. Levi can also decipher the chezinu izhunizec, but perhaps would be surprised by Palmar.

Perhaps.

But if NK is who I think he is, he’a used to scum being bad but he’s also got multi site experience (as he has said) and has found a number of ways to operate. But, can be stubborn and proud but has good reason to be (hence my strange and tenuous relationship toward him.)

Problem is I can’t remember his SB name dammit


Stop posting
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 01:46 GMT
#2717
On March 25 2018 10:35 Tictock wrote:
Feeling like I could let DF into the town circle based off feels from the latest bit of posting, though I'm personally offended he still hasn't developed some kind of opinion on me yet.

Checking the last page or so of filter from Dis doesn't change my last opinion of him. Like he is posting and talking about stuff, but not really scratching his head and getting invested in his reads.

Idk Rsoul you might need to sell me on a Dis townread ignoring his blueclaim.


I tend to take rsoultin's perspective that you did a lot of work for no reason today if you're mafia. But I should probably reread the last 10 pages or so
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 01:51 GMT
#2723
On March 25 2018 10:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 10:44 darthfoley wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:43 rsoultin wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 24 2018 16:41 n00bKing wrote:
On March 24 2018 16:40 Alakaslam wrote:
I’m not going to be an unwarranted ass, and I apologize for the above.

Cool. If you're Town, and something I said made you feel disrespected in some way, I apologize as well.

Who you wanna lynch?

I still have to read, could ask you the same lol. Still couldn’t tell from your filter.

Work went long and I’m about to go into town for a few drinks. But I’ll be back and I’ll finish reading

You've been modkilled dude. Ggs


Lol @ this game

-snorts- at least it looks like he lost track of when deadline was? The goober lol ><

And yeah, Df, you're making me feel a ton better about you right now


It's unfortunate but I much prefer playing on the weekend. I have more time to think about stuff and truly read filters. When I have time I can be motivated. My schedule just sucks during the week because I wake up to 10-20 pages of new filter and can't really catch up until much later in the day.

People got used to my meta when I was in college and had more free time overall. I think people need to start adjusting their expectations of my town play unfortunately. Don't have the time to be a N1 kill anymore lol
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 01:52 GMT
#2724
On March 25 2018 10:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 10:48 Mocsta wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:39 rsoultin wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
On March 25 2018 09:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 25 2018 09:41 Mocsta wrote:
Like its weird rayn two days ina row finds reasons to jymp off the top wagon that is town

But weird is prob just town evaluating vs. Scummy concerned about how they look


My biggest concern with rayn, off the top of my head rather than reading his filter, is that this game he's felt all too comfortable not being in control or leading lynches.

Like he's called me mafia for a couple days but did he ever truly try to get me lynched? He even ended up even voting with me on Rels (after I had voted for Rels). Has he really tried to get anyone lynched? His lack of aggression (and yes, aggression is different from shit fighting) is troubling.

Palmar/Koshi/rayn all consider themselves alpha males, but all three have been playing like betas. We need to find the difference between lazy play and scum
Out of those 3, the only with potential to be an alpha is palmar.

The others are more control freaks.
wanting to be in control and alpha are not the same thing.

I say this because, whilst the observation that rayn should be more "controlling" or in your words "alpha" is true.
being mafia is not the only explanation for this.

in fact, if rayn was mafia and happy with the town direction (i.e. slitting each other throats). i can see no reason for him to back away from reads as it draws unncessary attentino when hes not going to look terrible regardless.

rayn = town.


I'm not certain on rayn, really. But I used to catch him for lack of inclusivity, then he adjusted when I was in a position to lead town and fooled the shit out of me. That would make him less likely to tunnel like a blind banshee in this game I think.

So my toneread on him may be tainted by his catering to me. Which is way more likely in a strong mafia team I think.

If we have a medic hero we have plenty of time to thoroughly consider this. Or some of y'all do.

I'm going to put this out here...I actually think ff may be town lol ><

yeah, but whats a stacked mafia team?

like, if you want to say palmar + koshi + rayn
its equally offset by for example: you, hf, df + me (& n00b lol)

look, if rayn was mafia, i would prefer to consider him as the final mafia

i suppose i can consider moosy #1 after what DF posted, and that, with all that trolling then reverts to more trolling and always wants to know what others think of him.
hmm, i didnt read him in medic though to know if there is a similarity at all.

That's fair.

And yeah, wouldn't lynch rayn before others anyway.


Yes I agree. Koshi and Moosy should always be lynched before rayn I think. Maybe Palmar too but idk

I'll filter moosy and Palmar later
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 02:18 GMT
#2738
On March 25 2018 11:15 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 11:09 Mocsta wrote:
On March 25 2018 11:07 Tictock wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:49 Mocsta wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:46 darthfoley wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:35 Tictock wrote:
Feeling like I could let DF into the town circle based off feels from the latest bit of posting, though I'm personally offended he still hasn't developed some kind of opinion on me yet.

Checking the last page or so of filter from Dis doesn't change my last opinion of him. Like he is posting and talking about stuff, but not really scratching his head and getting invested in his reads.

Idk Rsoul you might need to sell me on a Dis townread ignoring his blueclaim.


I tend to take rsoultin's perspective that you did a lot of work for no reason today if you're mafia. But I should probably reread the last 10 pages or so
the only caveat is that tictock had votes as the alt. wagon.

but when it was clear n00b was getting lynched, tictock didtn stop.
thats what makes me feel good.


You are really all over the place with me, pretty sure you called me like 100% scum an hour ago?

I do agree that I have spewed myself town at this point, but I thought I had done this when you posted:
On March 25 2018 09:19 Mocsta wrote:
Im completely serious

Tictock is confirmed mafia

Lynch tomorrow
Honor holyflare


Really not having good vibes from you lately, feel like you've been lounging ever since you claimed Vig. We are basically at endgame, there is a good reason why I brought out the tin-foil on you and haven't included you in my town circle.
stop this.

since rsoultin made that post about effort, i dropped the read immediately.

"thats what makes me feel good"


Man... both you and DF can't read me yourselves?

Both just accept Rsoul's read?

Noob gave up reading me too...

Someone level with me, what is it that makes ya'll just avoid me?


tbh I just haven't really paid attention to your posts all game. Not intentionally, just happened. We have passed like two ships in the night for most of the game
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 02:22 GMT
#2740
And Koshi is mafia not because he's been forgettable (indeed, he has). Rather, he's mafia because he has strategically refused to move the game forward during key points for town. Tell me if these quotes remind you of anyone in this game...

I am fine person to watch.

Just don't talk in the thread guys. Let them figure shit out. They are on the wrong persons and we only need to add our votes in the end and afk.

Don't further the game. Don't do it. You can only make mistakes.


See I did something and it went south.
lol


(Tgis is what I thibk works btw)
My scumplay is mostly atrocious.


my plan is to to do nothing.

I like koshis plan of less is more.


It is working. And you cant argue with results.


ding ding ding: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/whXRitDyx58Ha

This is textbook Koshi scum play.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 02:59 GMT
#2758
On March 25 2018 11:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 10:24 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Palmar/Koshi/Moosy would be interesting.

I think it was Vivax who was uncomfortable with rayn town reading HF so easily. Called it semi TMI I think?

Or maybe i am just good and you are mafia or.. well.. bad.


top quality post. thanks
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 02:59 GMT
#2759
On March 25 2018 11:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


let's see how long this goes on for
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 03:03 GMT
#2764
On March 25 2018 12:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I asked you a question you couldn't be bothered to figure out it.
Well... boo..0


It's night you buffoon. Go back to bed and vote for me during the day
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 03:05 GMT
#2768
On March 24 2018 23:49 darthfoley wrote:
I'm at a teacher training shit all day today and I won't have time until maybe maybe deadline on mobile.

I can understand why people are scumreading me. I've been underwhelming and passive, but that frankly because I'm busy as hell and I've played a lot of consecutive mafia games. Im burned out and Im definitely going to obs next game.

@rayn I couldn't find a post but I think it may have been Mocsta who made that read on us. Idk cba to read 20 filters

If you feel the need to lynch me, oh well I guess. I won't be able to give you much until night.


On March 24 2018 23:52 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:49 darthfoley wrote:
I'm at a teacher training shit all day today and I won't have time until maybe maybe deadline on mobile.

I can understand why people are scumreading me. I've been underwhelming and passive, but that frankly because I'm busy as hell and I've played a lot of consecutive mafia games. Im burned out and Im definitely going to obs next game.

@rayn I couldn't find a post but I think it may have been Mocsta who made that read on us. Idk cba to read 20 filters

If you feel the need to lynch me, oh well I guess. I won't be able to give you much until night.

Im certain it was me too

I havent read any of ya arguments in detail cos skims as petty.
Thats already an alarm bell.

Exo / kelsier felt emotional hence tvt

Btw. Nice delurk on queue as well.
Im very impressed. Do you use an alert app?



If you're gonna be an asshole and flame me all game (while being wrong about my alignment), at least read my fucking filter. Honestly so tired of you and Koshi acting like jeniuses when you can't even bother to read
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 03:07 GMT
#2771
On March 25 2018 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 12:03 darthfoley wrote:
On March 25 2018 12:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I asked you a question you couldn't be bothered to figure out it.
Well... boo..0


It's night you buffoon. Go back to bed and vote for me during the day

it is day yoiu fuckface.


+ Show Spoiler +
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 03:10 GMT
#2776
On March 25 2018 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
if not, whty did you make the psot? I am not drunk you retardced fuck.


stop please
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 03:13 GMT
#2780
On March 25 2018 12:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mr. darthretarded where are you?


i'm probably just gonna ask for you to get banned for a game or something post game. i'm tired of you flaming me for no reason
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 03:16 GMT
#2784
On March 25 2018 12:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no. you have been an ass towards people and then be like "i am all jesus" and be everyones friend which is disgusting as fuck.

so stick to character, be an ass or be a jesus. you can't do both.


fun fact: i've called 0 people bad this game. i've called 0 people gay and/or gypsy this game. i've called 0 people retarded this game. i've called 0 people stupid this game.

Stop flaming me
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 03:19 GMT
#2787
i'm just gonna ignore what you write because you obviously ignore what I write.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 25 2018 19:48 GMT
#2933
On March 26 2018 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i also find it entertaining how town!rsoultin would probably tone read me as town but she's not doing any of that this game


But Koshi is obviously mafia
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 19:50 GMT
#2934
On March 26 2018 04:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also, the fact that darthfoley claims he's burnt out but goes on to play with a completely different playstyle from his town game last game is a huge red flag here



???

Being burned out almost always leads to a different playstyle. How is this AI at all?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 19:52 GMT
#2935
On March 26 2018 04:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 04:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 25 2018 10:56 Tictock wrote:
If I go with latest feels:
Town Circle:
rsoultin
darthfoley

Probably shouldn't lynch tomorrow:
Mocsta
disformation

Leaves this group:
raynpelikoneet
Palmar
Fecalfeast
Coagulation
Koshi
MoosyDoosy

Rayn and Palmar both feel more likely to be town than not.

Coag is prob always a coinflip and not worth loosing the game on. Frustrating as shit to have in the game right now, but that is the game we are getting.

So the lynch tomorrow has to be between:
Fecalfeast
Koshi
MoosyDoosy

I'd prob say the safe lynch there is Moosy.

see this shit? rsoultin, darthfoley, tictock sudden 180 on my alignment and put me at the bottom of the barrel


And? There were four modkills. Five flips. Your version of the world is that the scum team got into the thread (plus FF) and started jerking off together for lolz while town did fuck all, just to pocket what, the all-but-confirmed town vig?

When it should be obvious why after five flips people are changing their reads.

Now why is koshi town?


And we would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for yu meddling kids!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 20:12 GMT
#2949
On March 26 2018 05:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i apologize for being an asshole in this moment but to be frank i do not give a shit if you read me as town or mafia.

and yes, me being an asshole and not giving a shit is also town meta


Your whole defense is based off of self aware meta
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 20:12 GMT
#2950
On March 26 2018 05:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
lol if you think i'm going to talk reads


Why are you so heated
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 20:18 GMT
#2955
On March 26 2018 05:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also anyone who actually thinks i'm mafia should know i like busing the shit out of my teammates so they should still kill whoever i am going after because there is a guaranteed 100% chance of the people i am pushing being mafia if i am mafia


Nah dude, Koshi is mafia so I'm more concerned with lynching him
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 25 2018 20:19 GMT
#2957
On March 26 2018 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
town darthfoley would make an observation that i am becoming heated a la last game where he made the exact same observation.

mafia darthfoley here does not make that observation and instead asks me.

also this is entertaining if you actually think i'm heated.


lol I don't remember much from your game last game. Not enough to make a meta read like that
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 20:20 GMT
#2958
On March 26 2018 05:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
to be real rsoultin, i'm pretty certain you're mafia so i don't give a shit about talking to you because you're not in my town reads.

in the chance that you are town and i'm wrong i also don't give a shit if i threw the game by not talking to you because i don't care about games where i am town if i am frank.

also in the chance that you are town you are also bad for not reading me town and that's all there is to it in my mind and it's not my fault but yours. especially since this is basically my town meta to a tee.


Well you seem to care a decent amount all of a sudden after me/rsoultin/mocsta/TT discussed stuff last night

Soooo... mafia meta?
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March 25 2018 20:21 GMT
#2960
On March 26 2018 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
town darthfoley would make an observation that i am becoming heated a la last game where he made the exact same observation.

mafia darthfoley here does not make that observation and instead asks me.

also this is entertaining if you actually think i'm heated.


You've played like 3 games with me in 3 years. Not qualified to meta read me
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March 25 2018 20:21 GMT
#2961
On March 26 2018 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 05:20 darthfoley wrote:
On March 26 2018 05:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
to be real rsoultin, i'm pretty certain you're mafia so i don't give a shit about talking to you because you're not in my town reads.

in the chance that you are town and i'm wrong i also don't give a shit if i threw the game by not talking to you because i don't care about games where i am town if i am frank.

also in the chance that you are town you are also bad for not reading me town and that's all there is to it in my mind and it's not my fault but yours. especially since this is basically my town meta to a tee.


Well you seem to care a decent amount all of a sudden after me/rsoultin/mocsta/TT discussed stuff last night

Soooo... mafia meta?

yes i am mafia


Okay well we'll still lynch Koshi first
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March 25 2018 20:24 GMT
#2966
On March 26 2018 05:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 05:19 darthfoley wrote:
On March 26 2018 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
town darthfoley would make an observation that i am becoming heated a la last game where he made the exact same observation.

mafia darthfoley here does not make that observation and instead asks me.

also this is entertaining if you actually think i'm heated.


lol I don't remember much from your game last game. Not enough to make a meta read like that

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On March 26 2018 05:21 darthfoley wrote:
On March 26 2018 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
town darthfoley would make an observation that i am becoming heated a la last game where he made the exact same observation.

mafia darthfoley here does not make that observation and instead asks me.

also this is entertaining if you actually think i'm heated.


You've played like 3 games with me in 3 years. Not qualified to meta read me

btw you ok bro


No
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 20:25 GMT
#2967
On March 26 2018 05:24 rsoultin wrote:
Indeed, there's plenty of time to worry about which reads are right or wrong after koshi. I'll be honest, I started going through disinfo's past games and threw up my hands and said fuck it \o/ earlier because lol >< He feels different this game even after the vet claim and that's enough for now when koshi is 100% the lynch tomorrow in my eyes.

Kinda rude, btw, that you hold my ability to read you when I clearly did not have any sort of soul read on you last game to a higher standard than your own on me, but whatever. If that's town moosy I guess that's town moosy. I can decide later if I think that's true or not lol ><

In other news, Lex says if I stay up to play the game through deadline he'd rather I sleep on the couch @.@

Rude men ftw


What a rude boi. Slap him around
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 22:26 GMT
#2980
On March 26 2018 07:16 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin, i hate to muddy waters, but i dont understand the rayn hard town read either - for the drunken posting.

if anything thats a scum indicator (i.e. getting mad that town are unfoiling the mafia plans).. at least it reminded me of when i angry posted, last.

all i mean is, i would consider rayn a lynch option for the final slot.


I must agree
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March 25 2018 22:39 GMT
#2985
On March 26 2018 07:35 Mocsta wrote:
I suppose one caveat against what i commented with the rational for drunken posting.

i was frustrated because I setup this master plan that required like 2-3 days to execute.
So the unfoil pissed me off.

However, in rayn case, the game is almost, if not over - so.. why get frustrated at that.

hmmm, yes, im ok with town rayn.


Idk I read it more as a "fuck df" rant more than anything. NAI imo
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March 25 2018 23:03 GMT
#3004
On March 26 2018 08:01 rsoultin wrote:
gg


Knew it. Damn
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 23:04 GMT
#3006
she made a post early on that i've been trying to find since. But it was clear from the post imo.

Anyways, good job rsoultin. You balled out and returned the favor for last game
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 23:05 GMT
#3008
##Vote: rsoultin
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March 25 2018 23:05 GMT
#3009
On March 26 2018 08:05 darthfoley wrote:
##Vote: rsoultin


Lol oops.

##Vote: Koshi
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March 25 2018 23:08 GMT
#3011
On March 26 2018 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 01:07 rsoultin wrote:
Also, post-game, I'm really curious about this gnat read. It's not how I see my own townplay at all lol >< I've called myself a gnat before but that's because I have to keep hammering at my scumread nails until I'm blue in the face usually for people to lynch them with me. Not for pestering?
Hopefully this isnt what you meant.. lol DF


Nah. I'm gonna try and find it
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darthfoley
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March 25 2018 23:15 GMT
#3014
Meh maybe I just imagined it.

I was fairly sure rsoultin made a post saying basically that she wasn't gonna get lynched in this game. It's driving me crazy because it was the reason I slowly started to drop my scum read on her.
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March 25 2018 23:19 GMT
#3017
On March 21 2018 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 20:31 ExO_ wrote:
On March 21 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
yeah i'm not scum @.@

and 'calling me out' has nothing to do with how my reads progress

i think you're town, exo. and you're frankly shit at reading me. so i'd appreciate it if you gave this read of yours the doubt it deserves. it's pretty irritating when someone is this certain i'm scum every game and is this constantly wrong, but never seems to adjust his behavior

@ rayn, yeah idk. i'm not sure on disinfo at all, just would be more comfortable lynching into my five. and the comment about wanting to talk about slam had more to do with my wanting to not lynch him than that making him town lol >< selfishness


I'll admit, I've been bad at reading you in the past, and in general am very susceptible to OMGUSing hard and tunneling hard instead of being to assess and re-evaluate. However I think I raised some very valid points when I posted. You weren't offering any hard reads, were very wishy-washy and were sticking to your one read.

I'll take another look at your filter but you're still pretty high on my list.


Does anybody have an example of a scum game for Noobking I can look at? He's made so many long ass posts and it's hard for me to believe scum could sustain his level of posts like this. A lot of the posts are terrible, but he is at least taking the time to type up all of that consistently.


-shrugs- you can be wrong. but i think i'm just as entitled to be annoyed by it. it's not like i really ever get mislynched barring highly unusual circumstances lol ><

but if you want real talk for your future rsoul reading i'll give it to you

i don't make shit up. my reads are what they are, and i don't misrepresent my certainty. i'm not an arrogant shit who thinks she's right all the time when experience has proven otherwise. that's why you see waffles

anyway, carry on. i've expressed my annoyance and it's not terribly relevant to the game



it was something like this. But not this. Maybe I just formulated the read over a few posts. Idk
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March 25 2018 23:19 GMT
#3018
On March 26 2018 08:17 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 08:14 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:13 Mocsta wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Either Mocsta is vig and he gave a bad shot and rsoultin/darthfoley are mafia or Mocsta is mafia and rsoultin/darthfoley are town
yeah, im really not liking rsoultin following the NKs.

taking really extreme positions while only ctrl+f'n my filter.

##Vote: rsoultin
the wagon of justice.



I'm not getting lynched. Not today. Not ever. And I'm not even going to be cautious about saying that because I probably already gave myself away with my response to your shit assumptions regarding the nks.
ahhhh this

interesting pickup DF indeed.




YES! That post. God fucking damn it I was going crazy trying to find it.
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 10:32 GMT
#3054
Sorry, I don't believe Town has three investigative roles.

Tracker
vigi
JK
+ town rb
+ town veteran lol

Nah
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 10:45 GMT
#3061
Regardless of what happens, 4 town modkills in one day is something setup can't account for. So I have a very hard time believing we have 4 possible investigative roles in a 16v4 game.
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 10:47 GMT
#3062
Claiming town RB is potentially cool to do considering 4 people have already concluded that you're mafia.

I'm also fine voting for you for your humble posts
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 10:50 GMT
#3065
Did you mean to put that in your qt?
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 10:51 GMT
#3067
On March 26 2018 18:44 Koshi wrote:
Well. Every town should reconsider themselves because there is 4 mafia in the thread and I already have thread sentiment against me.

Consider we were right d1 on conversion. (Once again I was right d1 on the lynch btw). My lynch rate d1 is so good.

Anyway. We were right d1 and due to claim we can redeem ourselves on that lynch.


Conversion is dead and flipped town dude. Congratzzzzz
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 10:51 GMT
#3068
oh you corrected yourself.

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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 10:54 GMT
#3070
On March 26 2018 17:01 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. I will be selfish and claim. In theory I shouldnt and try to do some saves / confirm mafia but I think the claim will be insanely disputed already. And if mafia is with 4 and has no kp left I need to save 2 shots for a ml. But cconfirming mafia is also not possible but w.e.

I am actually town roleblocker.


And yes. I know with a jailkeeper/vigi/tracker/roleblocker our setup is pretty stacked. But we are 9 townies down soo....

Anyway. If you believe disformation is mafia without my claim... it makes him really mafia with my claim. Sadly I assume mafia also has a roleblocker so I wont be worth shit anymore and am not a target to kill. But if we ever kill the rb and the potential back up role after that they kinda need to kill me. Which is far away but it's possible.

So I blocked Conversion n1 and df n2.
Didnt crumb anything.


Chances are extremely high there is mafia between me an disformation. I am assuming Mocsta will believe we are both mafia reading his last posts.

BUT would I buss disformation like that early game? I dont think I would.

I am still on the page I said I was a couple days ago. But I liked Mocsta his posts. And I read some of rsoultin during night.

Maybe mafia showed some face knowing they were close. And we can 2 in a row.

First you need to believe I am town though. 😁


I mean he ended up with one vote on him and you switched wagons so, not really a bus, no
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March 26 2018 10:57 GMT
#3073
On March 26 2018 19:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 19:47 darthfoley wrote:
Claiming town RB is potentially cool to do considering 4 people have already concluded that you're mafia.

I'm also fine voting for you for your humble posts

Your whining and bitching about competitive people is getting old. You already did so after game etc so I know that this is "your thing". It's all fine that you are a pussy but dont expect that we are all spineless trashcans who dont enjoy some competivity and boasting about skills.

You cant even see most of the time it is in good fun


Nah dude, compete all you want. I love competition. It's why I play *insert anything.* I just don't feel the need to incessantly brag about everything that I do. You're style of verbal masturbation has been old for a while.
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 11:09 GMT
#3085
Because it fits his narrative
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March 26 2018 11:18 GMT
#3090
Koshi eventually goes back to dis formation after a flurry of posts?! Color me surprised
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 11:18 GMT
#3092
Back to townreading*
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March 26 2018 11:25 GMT
#3099
On March 26 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 20:18 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi eventually goes back to dis formation after a flurry of posts?! Color me surprised

I hope you are town which would proof the level of mega shittier you currently are performing in but sadly we only saw that proofed last game.


Idc man. I have my reads and I'm sticking to them. Similar to that final three we were apart of when you were Town and didn't entertain the chance of me being Town.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I can live with that
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March 26 2018 11:26 GMT
#3101
On March 26 2018 20:22 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 20:21 Koshi wrote:
On March 26 2018 20:18 disformation wrote:
though i grant you.
even against jk and vet that role would make sense.

I assume he doesnt kill a vet in 1 shot. That would be his only "weakness".

hmmm...
Show nested quote +
Strongman:

If you target a player for the night kill, your shot pierces through all protection.

This includes roleblocks, jails, and heals.

inclined to think that all means all.


Yes that means 1 shot on veteran
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March 26 2018 11:39 GMT
#3113
On March 26 2018 20:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 20:33 disformation wrote:
On March 26 2018 20:31 Koshi wrote:
And again. I havent read anyrhing since page 112.

*facepalmar*

Hmm. No time means no time.
Will happen more in the future.

Anyway. Good talks good talks.
You are the only one who was enjoyable here.
Mocsta and df are giant fucking pieces of shit that make me want to not play and puke instead.

But it is their wincon as mafia so its fine. I dont take it personally anyway.


Go to the doctor m8.

I'm just confused considering you've called Mocsta town and scum like 5 times back and forth.

Damn you Mocsta. You played the best but you're also giant pieces of shit that make me want to puke
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March 26 2018 14:55 GMT
#3172
On March 25 2018 11:22 darthfoley wrote:
And Koshi is mafia not because he's been forgettable (indeed, he has). Rather, he's mafia because he has strategically refused to move the game forward during key points for town. Tell me if these quotes remind you of anyone in this game...

Show nested quote +
I am fine person to watch.

Just don't talk in the thread guys. Let them figure shit out. They are on the wrong persons and we only need to add our votes in the end and afk.

Don't further the game. Don't do it. You can only make mistakes.


Show nested quote +
See I did something and it went south.
lol


Show nested quote +
(Tgis is what I thibk works btw)
My scumplay is mostly atrocious.


Show nested quote +
my plan is to to do nothing.

I like koshis plan of less is more.


Show nested quote +
It is working. And you cant argue with results.


ding ding ding: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/whXRitDyx58Ha

This is textbook Koshi scum play.


Quoted for posterity
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March 26 2018 14:56 GMT
#3173
On March 26 2018 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not going to be arund until tomorrow morning, so that's Mocsta time.
Why is Koshi mafia?


What I just posted, and the fact that he claimed town RB as a fifth blue claim and it isn't very convincing
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March 26 2018 17:51 GMT
#3232
On March 27 2018 01:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 01:15 Mocsta wrote:
palmar

why is rayn town

and why is df scummy, if he built a solid case on koshi.
like too much effort to be scum case as well.....????


I have no idea if rayn is town. His entry today was extremely weak and uncharacteristic. But he did correctly read me town for correct reasons on day 2. Maybe I'm just pocketed but idk.

df because I have no idea what he has done this game. I had no idea he built a case on koshi (which should tell you something about the quality of the push...)

building a case on someone when you know no one is going to listen is easy.


uhhh I posted a case when everyone saw it. I was the first (or second, idk) person to look into Koshi as scum. Specifically, read these two posts:

On March 25 2018 10:01 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:58 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote:
DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well.


I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod

Exactly. You are not solving this game friend. One of the big players is playing underwhelming and calling you mafia and you dont bring his name up talking to us...

His name should pop up way more in your posts. But it isnt. I wonder why.


Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 09:02 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 09:01 Koshi wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:58 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:57 Koshi wrote:
DF why is rayn not mafia? You not talking about him at all when the only interesting thing during the night was calling you mafia. If you are town. rayn did nothing. And his EoD was non existing as well.


I never said he wasn't mafia. Let me look through his eod

Exactly. You are not solving this game friend. One of the big players is playing underwhelming and calling you mafia and you dont bring his name up talking to us...

His name should pop up way more in your posts. But it isnt. I wonder why.


Have you actually read my filter? I've consistently scum read rayn since beginning of game.

I've literally called his play underwhelming and boring as fuck multiple times. Have you read anything?


Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 09:06 darthfoley wrote:
I apologize for not mentioning rayn enough in my filter.

A quick control + F of my filter shows I only mentioned his name or interacted with him 58 times. And I only called him scummy like 5 times. Truly terrible form by me and I will commit time and energy to remedying this truly unfortunate circumstance


Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 09:07 Koshi wrote:
Well. I am not reading a lot of posts tbh.
I'll read your filter later df. Hopefully what you say is true.

Palmar seems like a friend to town. At least we think alike.

I have like 6 names I could lynch today. At best there is 3 mafia in them. 1 mafia is probably within my townier people so that is why my townier people need to democratically vote within the 6. Highest chance to hit mafia. Dont only advocate for your own lynch. Think globally.


Lemme just remind you how much I hated this interaction with Koshi. It's funny that the first bolded sentence, he's supposedly talking about rayn but I think he's actually talking about himself sneakily.

He calls me out for blatantly false things, says he will read my filter later, then never comes back to it. This is after calling me scum repeatedly (but never actually casing me or putting any effort into getting me lynched.) You'd think this would be a top priority: one of his top scum reads telling him he's completely wrong about something. But he doesn't even care to check.

Compare that to rayn saying something about me, I checked that shit ASAP because I didn't remember it the same way.


On March 25 2018 11:22 darthfoley wrote:
And Koshi is mafia not because he's been forgettable (indeed, he has). Rather, he's mafia because he has strategically refused to move the game forward during key points for town. Tell me if these quotes remind you of anyone in this game...

Show nested quote +
I am fine person to watch.

Just don't talk in the thread guys. Let them figure shit out. They are on the wrong persons and we only need to add our votes in the end and afk.

Don't further the game. Don't do it. You can only make mistakes.


Show nested quote +
See I did something and it went south.
lol


Show nested quote +
(Tgis is what I thibk works btw)
My scumplay is mostly atrocious.


Show nested quote +
my plan is to to do nothing.

I like koshis plan of less is more.


Show nested quote +
It is working. And you cant argue with results.


ding ding ding: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/whXRitDyx58Ha

This is textbook Koshi scum play.

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March 26 2018 17:53 GMT
#3233
Also noted how rayn came in here, basically said a whole lot of nothing and didn't take many stances on anyone, then peaced out.

He doesn't commit to lynching me even though he's "thought" i'm scummy all day. He votes disformation without really much conviction. Still underwhelming tbh

Like right now, town rayn would be writing big ass cases explaining which role is fake and why. He would use setup meta reads to try and determine things. The town!rayn I know is not one who says "well, hosts could do anything so there's no point in talking about it!"

It just feels sooo off man
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March 26 2018 17:54 GMT
#3234
On March 27 2018 02:53 darthfoley wrote:
Also noted how rayn came in here, basically said a whole lot of nothing and didn't take many stances on anyone, then peaced out.

He doesn't commit to lynching me even though he's "thought" i'm scummy all day. He votes disformation without really much conviction. Still underwhelming tbh

Like right now, town rayn would be writing big ass cases explaining which role is fake and why. He would use setup meta reads to try and determine things. The town!rayn I know is not one who says "well, hosts could do anything so there's no point in talking about it!"

It just feels sooo off man


ebwop: he's though i'm scummy all game
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March 26 2018 17:55 GMT
#3235
Palmar's posting has made me feel better about him.
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March 26 2018 17:57 GMT
#3236
On March 27 2018 01:15 Mocsta wrote:
palmar

why is rayn town

and why is df scummy, if he built a solid case on koshi.
like too much effort to be scum case as well.....????


Idk man, people have called me scummy all game but rayn was the last person to actually give reasons. And that was D1. I'm fine with people being suspicious of me, but there has been like 0 initiative to actually convince other people of it. Which makes sense considering as mafia, they've been able to just sit around and watch us self-destruct. No need to get in the middle of it
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March 26 2018 17:59 GMT
#3237
Real question is, does mafia brute force win today, or try to play long con?

at 6v4 probably, it's going to be hard to actually lynch mafia regardless. They just need to convince one townie that they're correct
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March 26 2018 18:02 GMT
#3238
On March 27 2018 01:13 Palmar wrote:
rb+jk vs scum with no extra kp ^^

Town could literally grind the game to a halt if the jk decides to use it offensively.

It's why we kill koshi. His role doesn't fit and there's other reasons he is mafia too.


What are the other reasons? You're not talking about my case considering you just said I've been forgetful. You have been treading very carefully about committing to a read on Koshi this whole game. Basically your filter on Koshi boils down to "well, he could be town but he could also be scum!" until right now.

So what are the other reasons he's mafia?
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#3240
On March 27 2018 03:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 03:02 darthfoley wrote:
On March 27 2018 01:13 Palmar wrote:
rb+jk vs scum with no extra kp ^^

Town could literally grind the game to a halt if the jk decides to use it offensively.

It's why we kill koshi. His role doesn't fit and there's other reasons he is mafia too.


What are the other reasons? You're not talking about my case considering you just said I've been forgetful. You have been treading very carefully about committing to a read on Koshi this whole game. Basically your filter on Koshi boils down to "well, he could be town but he could also be scum!" until right now.

So what are the other reasons he's mafia?


Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 23:03 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2018 22:58 Koshi wrote:
I also play for survival but it is for town. I just need you people to take a step back and rethink eon1 when ALOT of people townread me for my posting.

My only crime d2 was not posting a lot and it is on you people to scumread me for not posting.


Like... I played a good but not active game. But cant do much against thread sentiment.


There's more than just that.

You also have a very inconvenient claim and frankly you sound much less good than the other two claimers. Additionally while I kinda like this koshi who is a bit more chill, I've come to associate town koshi with zero tolerance wrath towards your chosen lynch targets, to the point where being targeted by you is simply unpleasant.

You're going to have to come up with more than just "I guess this guy is mafia".



Okay this is the point I was making but in different words. Thanks for answering.
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March 26 2018 18:13 GMT
#3241
Palmar, do you agree/disagree with my post on rayn above? Anything i'm not seeing?
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March 26 2018 18:19 GMT
#3244
On March 27 2018 03:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 02:57 darthfoley wrote:
On March 27 2018 01:15 Mocsta wrote:
palmar

why is rayn town

and why is df scummy, if he built a solid case on koshi.
like too much effort to be scum case as well.....????


Idk man, people have called me scummy all game but rayn was the last person to actually give reasons. And that was D1. I'm fine with people being suspicious of me, but there has been like 0 initiative to actually convince other people of it. Which makes sense considering as mafia, they've been able to just sit around and watch us self-destruct. No need to get in the middle of it


First of all, people ignore you because you don't post entertaining shit. This game is all about stirring up some real shit that gets people's blood running. Your day 1 gag thing was just plain boring mate.

The problem I have with rayn is that while he has posted a lot of text (most of which I haven't read), he doesn't really have any influence in town. He's ceded basically all influence to me and a few other people, which is unnatural for him.

But he has also said some things I've agreed very much with, and he has the same thing as mocsta that I really don't wanna lose this game by lynching a townie that's been very active. I think it's much more likely we find scum in the less posty people.


I agree with the bolded. I'm not advocating lynching him today. Or even tomorrow... maybe. I just don't understand how town!rayn is so okay with ceding all the influence. Usually his attitude feels like "fuck you, listen to me because i'm right." this game feels more like "fuck you, you piece of shit"
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March 26 2018 18:21 GMT
#3245
On March 27 2018 03:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 02:57 darthfoley wrote:
On March 27 2018 01:15 Mocsta wrote:
palmar

why is rayn town

and why is df scummy, if he built a solid case on koshi.
like too much effort to be scum case as well.....????


Idk man, people have called me scummy all game but rayn was the last person to actually give reasons. And that was D1. I'm fine with people being suspicious of me, but there has been like 0 initiative to actually convince other people of it. Which makes sense considering as mafia, they've been able to just sit around and watch us self-destruct. No need to get in the middle of it


First of all, people ignore you because you don't post entertaining shit. This game is all about stirring up some real shit that gets people's blood running. Your day 1 gag thing was just plain boring mate.

The problem I have with rayn is that while he has posted a lot of text (most of which I haven't read), he doesn't really have any influence in town. He's ceded basically all influence to me and a few other people, which is unnatural for him.

But he has also said some things I've agreed very much with, and he has the same thing as mocsta that I really don't wanna lose this game by lynching a townie that's been very active. I think it's much more likely we find scum in the less posty people.


I'm not talking about being ignored. I'm talking about being scumread but not being cased in any way or interacted with or voted on. Tbf rayn has asked me some questions and things like that. But Koshi has called me scum many times and has never really tried to determine whether he's right or wrong.
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March 26 2018 19:05 GMT
#3276
On March 27 2018 03:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also if we're lynching me im just going to screenshot my role pm because it's going to be faster to get modkilled


nice
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March 26 2018 19:07 GMT
#3277
On March 27 2018 03:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2018 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On March 26 2018 19:47 darthfoley wrote:
Claiming town RB is potentially cool to do considering 4 people have already concluded that you're mafia.

I'm also fine voting for you for your humble posts

Your whining and bitching about competitive people is getting old. You already did so after game etc so I know that this is "your thing". It's all fine that you are a pussy but dont expect that we are all spineless trashcans who dont enjoy some competivity and boasting about skills.

You cant even see most of the time it is in good fun

NAI tangent, this is funny considering darthfoley stroked himself off pretty hard last game omegalul. Like I don't mind if you are who you are. Rayn is arrogant/sarcastic/rude but he doesn't pretend to be otherwise. The worst is when people are hypocritical is shit i.e. darthfoley


That guy darthfoley is such a dickhead, agreed
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March 26 2018 19:10 GMT
#3279
+ Show Spoiler +
I've played games for three years on here and never once gotten warned, banned for a game, punished or anything like that besides once for missing a vote. This idea that i'm a super dickhead isn't supported by the evidence. And if it is, I can address it post-game.
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March 26 2018 19:54 GMT
#3290
On March 27 2018 04:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 04:10 darthfoley wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I've played games for three years on here and never once gotten warned, banned for a game, punished or anything like that besides once for missing a vote. This idea that i'm a super dickhead isn't supported by the evidence. And if it is, I can address it post-game.

wow man you're a saint


Idk why you're obsessed with telling me that i'm an asshole
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 19:54 GMT
#3291
On March 27 2018 04:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote: Tictock


why are you voting ticktock over me or fecalfeast?
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March 26 2018 20:24 GMT
#3294
On March 27 2018 04:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 04:13 Koshi wrote:
On March 27 2018 03:59 Tictock wrote:
Koshi [5]: Mocsta, darthfoley, Tictock, disformation, Palmar


I really like all these initial voters on Koshi though.

Ok. Then it is over.

This will be my last post.

We wont win anyway lads. Mafia played well.

I would also post pm to quicken the game but is rulebreaking.

Cya in 28 hours


This is the correct play if you're mafia, so please don't do this if you're town.

The optimal play today for someone in koshi's position (as mafia) is to go afk and stop talking. This is because it mostly shuts down conversation, instead of allowing townies to keep prodding and poking, making themselves look good in the process. It's easily in mafia's best interest that people don't talk and just wait for the deadline.


Agreed
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 20:25 GMT
#3295
I think TL Mafia needs some group therapy after this game
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 22:14 GMT
#3315
Moosy did you know I haven't called anyone "a piece of shit" in this game?
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 22:15 GMT
#3316
This will go down as the biggest shitshow in TL Mafia history :D
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 22:16 GMT
#3317
If koshi is mafia, the game continues and My suspicion was correct

If koshi is town, the game is over. Win win
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 22:55 GMT
#3323
On March 27 2018 07:41 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 07:16 darthfoley wrote:
If koshi is mafia, the game continues and My suspicion was correct

If koshi is town, the game is over. Win win
mafia is a team game for both alignments.

have correct suspicion, doesn't meet the game definition of winning.

wasnt this already debated prior when damdred got lynched d1 with correct reads.
you still need to convince people to lynch them - otherwise pointless.

Thats why I will always have respect for marvellosity.
There was this game he created a fake account years ago as fivetouch.
as a complete nobody he got the entire town onside and lynched mafia day1.

Very real crisis leadership.

i dont think any of the players in this game could do that; many are relying on reputations due to "correct suspicions".

The closest may actualy be Koshi, but for different reasons to fivetouch.
Koshi as town *CAN* be very involving from what I have seen in 2018.
Again, this is why he is scum this game.

ciao.


I mean I was very very busy last week during the start of the game and had low motivation. It's not like I just said "hmm Koshi may be mafia but I'll never explain it." I've cases Koshi and Rayn specifically since D1. But you aren't gonna get rayn or Koshi lynched D1 in a 20 person game unless they make some terrible slip. With so many lurkers it's bound to be one of them.

Has anyone had to motivation to try and find noobking crumbs?
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 23:07 GMT
#3326
On March 27 2018 08:01 Mocsta wrote:
im not really seeing the relationship between what I wrote, and what you followed up with.

Doesnt really matter, my line of conversion was side-commentary.


"have correct suspicion, doesn't meet the game definition of winning.

wasnt this already debated prior when damdred got lynched d1 with correct reads.
you still need to convince people to lynch them - otherwise pointless."

my point is that i've tried to convince people to lynch my scum reads. Rsoultin did the same. I'm not really sure what else to interpret your post to mean. /offtopic
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darthfoley
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March 26 2018 23:22 GMT
#3330
On March 27 2018 08:15 Palmar wrote:
Having good scumreads while not being able to convince people is like being really good at dribbling in basketball and missing literally every shot. Completely pointless, might as well suck at everything.

People put way too little emphasis into the social/politics part of mafia and way too much into the logic/deduction part.


this is true enough
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 10:36 GMT
#3479
Not moving off Koshi today. Let's get ready to rumble
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 10:48 GMT
#3481
I mean it's always very hard for town to win in 6v4. Town have to band together almost perfectly unless mafia just go for bonkers bus plays
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 10:56 GMT
#3484
On March 27 2018 19:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 19:45 Palmar wrote:
This list of people on disfo ^^

I'm guessing 2-3 mafia, easy. Problem is that it's 100% that it's not 4 mafia on him, so that means at least 2 townies on disfo.

That means, no matter what happens, mafia controls the vote

soo....

If there is 2 mafia on disfo there is 2 mafia on me you fucking joker.

Anyway. You are mafia and it is way too easy so I dont blame your brain being off. Thats on us.


So there is 0% chance Moosy is mafia?
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 10:57 GMT
#3487
Yes, I can't imagine people voting their reads with the acknowledged possibility of being wrong. Fuck
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 10:58 GMT
#3489
On March 27 2018 19:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 19:56 darthfoley wrote:
On March 27 2018 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On March 27 2018 19:45 Palmar wrote:
This list of people on disfo ^^

I'm guessing 2-3 mafia, easy. Problem is that it's 100% that it's not 4 mafia on him, so that means at least 2 townies on disfo.

That means, no matter what happens, mafia controls the vote

soo....

If there is 2 mafia on disfo there is 2 mafia on me you fucking joker.

Anyway. You are mafia and it is way too easy so I dont blame your brain being off. Thats on us.


So there is 0% chance Moosy is mafia?

Stfu nobody cares about you.


hey, at least you didn't call me a fucking moronic gay gypsy retarded fuck. Making progress
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 10:59 GMT
#3490
On March 27 2018 19:58 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote darthfoley


At least I voted mafia. I suspect it will end 7 on me or disfo and then 3 on obvious mafia


Please do. I can't wait to taste the tears post game
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 11:02 GMT
#3493
On March 27 2018 20:01 Koshi wrote:
Disfo please dont entertain moronic as fuck questions like "0% mafia? Hurr durr I am a spastic because who the fuck cares 0% I dont even ever want to vote moosy but let me ask this piece of shit question anyway because who the fuck cares"


Well Palmar says "2-3 mafia are on dis"

you say "then the other two are on me you idiot"

but moosy is off wagon. so you're basically 100% town reading him. It was a simple mathematical deduction that I wanted to clarify.

such a moronic question! And who said I never wanted to lynch Moosy? I just don't want to lynch him today
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 11:53 GMT
#3502
On March 27 2018 20:43 Mocsta wrote:
scum!df is right, unfortunately

its unlikely 4 town players will consolidate, so scum will be able to do last minute vote shenannigans to win.
its why i wanted to force consolidation at start of sigh.
as koshi said, i just wasn't capable

anyhow, i scrub FF from my list.
my final read of the game based on this continual thread disruption to bump page count is

koshi, disformation, darthfoley, and FF palmar

/final post till flip


wait, so how will the four mafia do vote shenanigans to win when the only wagons are two mafia?
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 12:24 GMT
#3505
I'll be around later, sometime between 2-3PM EST for most of the rest of the cycle. Can answer stuff then
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 27 2018 15:41 GMT
#3541
On March 27 2018 23:59 Koshi wrote:
And its not that I hate the getting lynched part. But I hate the retarded pieces of trash that dont want to consider or talk to me about fefe, df for example.

I so hope on 5 blues. And I will fucking berate the townies in so many fucking games to come. Fuck em.


You're really going for that drama queen award. You went from not giving a shit to throwing a hissy for about this game. Intriguing.

I tried talking to you and you just "stfu no one cares about you" so I have absolutely no sympathy for your crocodile tears.
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 18:40 GMT
#3547
well here i am but ded gaem
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
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March 27 2018 19:45 GMT
#3559
On March 28 2018 04:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
unless they planned a bus


this is what makes me a little wary of palmar being gung ho against koshi. I could see a bus happening here.

I guess it just really depends on the mechanics mafia knows that town doesn't in terms of KP, and whether they want to prolong the game or end it outright.
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 19:46 GMT
#3561
On March 28 2018 04:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If we believe darth is scum then Koshi has to be town and is probably roleblocker that blocked his KP.

If we believe that Koshi is scum then darth is likely town


WIFOM but idk why I would carry scum kp when 50+% of the game was scumreading me
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 20:40 GMT
#3567
On March 28 2018 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Koshi palmar moose + 1

If i am mislynched do we lose? Not exactly sure what's going on


so you think all 3 blue claims alive are town?
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March 27 2018 20:40 GMT
#3568
On March 28 2018 05:40 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Koshi palmar moose + 1

If i am mislynched do we lose? Not exactly sure what's going on


so you think all 3 blue claims alive are town?


nvm i can't read
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 20:59 GMT
#3572
On March 28 2018 05:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Koshi I saw but intjought it was mocsta and disfo who claimed


yea i misread your post, my fault
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March 27 2018 22:28 GMT
#3601
On March 28 2018 07:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 04:25 Coagulation wrote:
TOWN
Coag
darth
moosey
ticktock


SCUM
rayn
palm
koshi
foot

Wow

is this a baby seal post

MY GOD, if the 4 town, are actually the 4 scum. My good.

anyawys, im willing to vote shennie darthfoely.

brought up by many, and goes no where.
he is scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: darthfoely


LOL. Won't waste time defending myself. I'm town mate. Sorry you got misled somewhere along the line
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March 27 2018 22:31 GMT
#3603
On March 28 2018 07:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 07:18 disformation wrote:
do we even have enough ppl to get him lynched, without giving scum the option to choose from 3 wagons?

every player (except mayeb coag) will be here before deadline

So yes, we have enough people.


Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Df could very well be the last scum on my.list.

Why does this one post from.coag make you think a. That he is scum claiming his whole team as town and b. That this isnreason to vote df specifically
I thought DF was scum before Coag.
Coag post just prompted me, thats all.

Literally, DF suspicion has been ignored ALL GAME.
DF has no reads
DF was caught by Kelsier Day1, for inconsistency with ExO.
Defending him hard as town; and then left him off his town circle!
+ he is always actively delurking. So you know he is present in the game at all times and is choosing to not move the game forward!

DF = scum

lets shenannie


and fwiw i made ONE post about exo on a read I thought town!ExO would make. That didn't make it a town read. ONE post. smh
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 22:33 GMT
#3606
and why does that inconsistency even make me mafia? that was never explained. And he flipped town?? I subsequently townread him.

Mocsta i have no idea what you're doing
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March 27 2018 22:37 GMT
#3609
On March 28 2018 07:35 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like the people on the Koshi wagon tictock

and i see no reason for mafia to have to be on a mafia!koshi wagon and stay on it.
They can all jump off at the last minute, and pile 4 votes onto town and its game over.
Or if town, they can just stay on, and its a forced mislynch as well.

DF says, all wagons are scum before. AND? so what, the highest vote would be 2, if 4 scum jump off.

Consolidation is needed, and whether koshi is town or not. i wont vote him this cycle purely for above.


what does this mean?
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March 27 2018 22:39 GMT
#3615
scum can do whatever it chooses with 4 of 10 votes
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darthfoley
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March 27 2018 22:41 GMT
#3618
mocsta i really don't know if you're baiting or being serious m8 lol
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March 27 2018 22:42 GMT
#3622
On March 28 2018 07:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I hope we just get 4 scum lynches in a row and win. Imagine how angry everyone who's waiting to shittalk town will be


it would be deeeelicious
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March 27 2018 22:44 GMT
#3628
On March 28 2018 07:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 07:39 Tictock wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:38 Mocsta wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:37 Tictock wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:35 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like the people on the Koshi wagon tictock

and i see no reason for mafia to have to be on a mafia!koshi wagon and stay on it.
They can all jump off at the last minute, and pile 4 votes onto town and its game over.
Or if town, they can just stay on, and its a forced mislynch as well.

DF says, all wagons are scum before. AND? so what, the highest vote would be 2, if 4 scum jump off.

Consolidation is needed, and whether koshi is town or not. i wont vote him this cycle purely for above.


So this means you agree that Shennanigans are bad as town needs to stick together?

So why the hell are you suggesting shennanies?
dont get fixated on the word choice
get fixated on the vision

do you disagree with the situation scum can do last-minute?
If so, we need to band together away from koshi.

I believe DF is either unanimously not hard-town read by anyone.
Thats a massive sign of being scum.

HE IS THE STONE THAT HASNT BEEN TURNED OFF.


Why is Koshi no longer scum to you?

Why should we lynch DF who has not been talked about all cycle.

This is just chaos that benefits mafia.
STOP THIS
WHY DO YOU THINK THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION ABOUT IT

SRIOUSLY MAFIA HAVE CONTROLLED AND DISRUPTED THE THREAD THIS CYCLE

GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND


so who's your revised mafia team?
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March 27 2018 22:44 GMT
#3629
On March 28 2018 07:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Mocsta is maf vig after all and really wants to win this cycle by disrupting the koshi wagon a little?


literally exactly what i'm thinking
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March 27 2018 22:49 GMT
#3635
On March 28 2018 07:47 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 07:44 Tictock wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:42 Mocsta wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:39 Tictock wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:38 Mocsta wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:37 Tictock wrote:
On March 28 2018 07:35 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like the people on the Koshi wagon tictock

and i see no reason for mafia to have to be on a mafia!koshi wagon and stay on it.
They can all jump off at the last minute, and pile 4 votes onto town and its game over.
Or if town, they can just stay on, and its a forced mislynch as well.

DF says, all wagons are scum before. AND? so what, the highest vote would be 2, if 4 scum jump off.

Consolidation is needed, and whether koshi is town or not. i wont vote him this cycle purely for above.


So this means you agree that Shennanigans are bad as town needs to stick together?

So why the hell are you suggesting shennanies?
dont get fixated on the word choice
get fixated on the vision

do you disagree with the situation scum can do last-minute?
If so, we need to band together away from koshi.

I believe DF is either unanimously not hard-town read by anyone.
Thats a massive sign of being scum.

HE IS THE STONE THAT HASNT BEEN TURNED OFF.


Why is Koshi no longer scum to you?

Why should we lynch DF who has not been talked about all cycle.

This is just chaos that benefits mafia.
STOP THIS
WHY DO YOU THINK THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION ABOUT IT

SRIOUSLY MAFIA HAVE CONTROLLED AND DISRUPTED THE THREAD THIS CYCLE

GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND


As far as I can tell I have more or less led town today, and this is basically what me you and Rsoul all agreed last night. So I am mafia?

I guess I really like this sand.
LED TOWN TO WHAT

THERE IS NO CONSOLIDATION

YOU ARE VERY INTROVERTED THINKER => SELFISH AND SELF-ABSORBED

THIS IS FACT, NOT CRITICISM


How is 6 votes not consolidation? What do you even mean?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 22:58 GMT
#3646
On March 28 2018 07:55 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 07:44 darthfoley wrote:
so who's your revised mafia team?
yeah, i dont know.
given up at this point.

i have potential problems with everyone left alive, and dunno if that makes them scummy or not.

based on lack on what appears to be mafia KP roles, i stick with disformation + koshi as both lying.
with there were no modkills, and mafia shot an unknown vet. it just pushes the game out WAY too long.

So
Scum1 = Koshi
Scum 2 = disformation
Scum3 = darthfoley
Scum4 = FF or Palmar. sticking with FF for this cycle.


As for fence-sitters
Palmar keeps floating in/out for me, so I could replace with fecalfeast as I can see him fadign away if being constantly pressured as town.

I really think moosy/rayn discussed 12hrs ago was town and town.

So that leaves coag and tictock
seal + still trying to solve the game.

Thats it folks

##Unvote
##Vote: koshi




So i'm voting scum? So why would you want to vote me out if Koshi is mafia and so is dis?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 22:59 GMT
#3653
On March 28 2018 07:59 Mocsta wrote:
#3646
stop tryharding

game could be almost over.


just saying. if i'm mafia and i'm voting Koshi who is also mafia and who has 6 votes, why would you want to vote me out?

no logic there
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:01 GMT
#3656
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:05 GMT
#3662
riperino
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:07 GMT
#3671
well i was right about rayn and wrong on almost everything else. meh
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:09 GMT
#3683
4 town modkills is really oof. Nothing Calix could do but... oof. Idk what would've happened without them.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:17 GMT
#3703
On March 28 2018 08:12 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 08:09 darthfoley wrote:
4 town modkills is really oof. Nothing Calix could do but... oof. Idk what would've happened without them.


A lot of the mod-kills had decent odds of being mislynched, I think. Obviously the game wouldn't have been such a mafia-stomp without them but I don't think it would have suddenly made town get its act together.


Tbh I don't think Kelscier or Alakaslam were in position to be lynched. Maybe ykl? Who knows what would've happened with Conversion. It's hard to say
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:23 GMT
#3714
On March 28 2018 08:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Oh well.

On a tangent darthfoley just because you don't call people a gay gypsy fuck doesn't mean you're an angel and exempt from being toxic. That's like saying you're going to heaven because you didn't kill someone lmao. The main problem I have with interacting with you and reading your interactions is how every post you make is either slightly derogatory or slightly sarcastic.

You don't need to call someone a dipshit to make them feel like shit and you're that exact type of person


Never claimed to be an angel. I'm definitely toxic sometimes. But I personally think there's a difference between being sarcastic about caps lock usage when someone is writing essays on how amazing they are, and calling people gay gypsies and fucking retards. Like it's 2018 and adults on this forum are still calling people gay and retarded like it's 2010 and we're all 14.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:25 GMT
#3720
On March 28 2018 08:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On March 28 2018 08:23 darthfoley wrote:
On March 28 2018 08:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Oh well.

On a tangent darthfoley just because you don't call people a gay gypsy fuck doesn't mean you're an angel and exempt from being toxic. That's like saying you're going to heaven because you didn't kill someone lmao. The main problem I have with interacting with you and reading your interactions is how every post you make is either slightly derogatory or slightly sarcastic.

You don't need to call someone a dipshit to make them feel like shit and you're that exact type of person


Never claimed to be an angel. I'm definitely toxic sometimes. But I personally think there's a difference between being sarcastic about caps lock usage when someone is writing essays on how amazing they are, and calling people gay gypsies and fucking retards. Like it's 2018 and adults on this forum are still calling people gay and retarded like it's 2010 and we're all 14.

ah yes you are correct. It's 2018 where we're all adults and we act passive aggressive to each other


I would say i'm mostly aggressive. I just try to call people names that don't degrade other peoples' realities or existences
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:27 GMT
#3724
Like if we're just calling each other idiots and stupid and bad, I'm guilty of that and I can understand where the rage comes from. I just very much don't appreciate using the words gay and retarded to demean other people
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:31 GMT
#3728
Anyways I think i've played in every game since like October 2017 so I'm due for a break. I didn't have the energy of motivation this game that I enjoy playing with. It's true that I actively delurked, but that was because I couldn't be arsed to read more than I had to, especially early on.

Fwiw I think people are going to need to adjust their expectations for my meta considering the day times are almost always EU favored and I have like 10 hour work days consistently. Employed darthfoley just doesn't have the time that college darthfoley did. A sad injustice
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:32 GMT
#3729
On March 28 2018 08:29 Palmar wrote:
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On March 23 2018 09:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:57 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:54 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:51 darthfoley wrote:
Logically speaking, taking Mocsta's claim at face value, Conversion and n00bking are almost surely 1 scum between them. Perhaps two, but idk.


Why? Like how has Mocsta's claim anything to do with these guys alignment?


Because with as much movement as there was EoD, it's hard to believe the 5 popular wagons were all town

Rels -- flipped town
Mocsta -- claimed vig + shot went through
darthfoley -- your friendly vanilla town
n00bking -- ???
Conversion -- ???

If I accept that both nk/conversion are town, it's basically saying that mafia were sitting back, laughing maniacally while town just acted like chickens with their heads cut off.

you can't just randomly assume that a certain percentage of wagons needs to be scum.

Hey koshi, wanna make a few random wagons to make df's head explode?

Pretend that I'm talking real slow and real nice in a friendly tone with a big smile on my face when I say "This is fucking stupid my man".


And I say it in such a nice way!


I prove my ideological consistency because I don't think I had a problem with this post at all
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:34 GMT
#3732
On March 28 2018 08:33 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 08:32 darthfoley wrote:
On March 28 2018 08:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2018 09:00 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:57 darthfoley wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:54 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2018 08:51 darthfoley wrote:
Logically speaking, taking Mocsta's claim at face value, Conversion and n00bking are almost surely 1 scum between them. Perhaps two, but idk.


Why? Like how has Mocsta's claim anything to do with these guys alignment?


Because with as much movement as there was EoD, it's hard to believe the 5 popular wagons were all town

Rels -- flipped town
Mocsta -- claimed vig + shot went through
darthfoley -- your friendly vanilla town
n00bking -- ???
Conversion -- ???

If I accept that both nk/conversion are town, it's basically saying that mafia were sitting back, laughing maniacally while town just acted like chickens with their heads cut off.

you can't just randomly assume that a certain percentage of wagons needs to be scum.

Hey koshi, wanna make a few random wagons to make df's head explode?

Pretend that I'm talking real slow and real nice in a friendly tone with a big smile on my face when I say "This is fucking stupid my man".


And I say it in such a nice way!


I prove my ideological consistency because I don't think I had a problem with this post at all


and to prove my point they were all town


Exactly! It was a bad and lazy ass point, but I can admit it
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:34 GMT
#3733
On March 28 2018 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 08:27 disformation wrote:
On March 28 2018 08:20 Koshi wrote:
On March 23 2018 06:32 Koshi wrote:
Man I was going to post this on deadline but w.e.
I think the risk is too high cool people will die.
RIP 3 townies.

I am paying attention. Suprise!
Best reads in spoiler. Town MVP Throphy = thx.
Mafia will probably win if slightly mafia balanced. Too much KP. Too many limited town players.

+ Show Spoiler +
Top town
18. Coagulation (town seal)
9. KelsierSC (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
6. rsoultin (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs)
7. Vivax (tip top town, because he lives in Vivax world)

Townish

3. ExO_ (Some1 mindmelded with him. The mindmeldee is mostly town. Other than that he doesn't look good)
17. Tictock (I said this after a post he made)
4. Mocsta (seems lost. Being lost here is good)
20. MoosyDoosy (I think he is town just based on thread sentiment against him)

I have hope for these players
15. Palmar (high hopes)
1. Holyflare (less high hopes)

Can flip either way
8. raynpelikoneet (not enough cares during lynch, nothing smart during night, pushes the idea df is town on something he didn't read properly. But he seems a bit lost which is townie)
14. disformation (still looks mafia to me)
10. ykl (Meh, needs more sass, way too safe)
11. n00bking (He might be good at playing mafia, I think he is town)
5. Alakaslam (potential false prophet)

mafia
2. Conversion (I call him mafia, he says I am always wrong on his alignment.)
12. darthfoley (I call him mafia, he says I am wrong.)
16. Fecalfeast (0 impact)

Still happy but outplayed by mafia team d3. And my bottom was very bad. Why I gained so much heat d2 I still dont understand.

Also dnu why I got so angry after I was doing so good... Oh well. BM is also fun at times.

Tricked by townie seal. Palmar made good posts d1. Rayn made good posts d3. Disfo was a nice guy.

Never would have won with morons like mocsta.

oh btw wtf was that d1 insta scum read about, still don't rly understand it xD

Nonchalant helping thing when it isnt needed is more mafia in my mind.

That pinged me.

It is just after that you did nothing townie. My previous mindset was to keep blue claims alive d1 and figure them out later. But my d1 is mostly my best day. (Most times townreads and PoE, not mafia reads but they are a byproduct)

But again... the townies this game were a bunch of retarded pieces of shit that made it super unpleasant to come back in the thread. Mocsta, df in particular. Why I bothered I dont understand. Never again.

Only mafia was nice to me xcept palmad.


Thank you brother!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 27 2018 23:35 GMT
#3735
I honestly don't think Mocsta really stepped on anyone's toes
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 28 2018 02:18 GMT
#3756
I think I prefer 13 player games. 20 players just felt like way too much happening all at once tbh. It's a fun change up though
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