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On March 16 2018 14:53 ykl wrote: Uhm, do you take newbies in non-newbie games? Cause /in if so. Otherwise, I'd like to obs. Did you submit an application and psych eval to blazinghand? | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:03 KelsierSC wrote: Hi Moosy, Shut up I always wonder when I read your posts what must be going on in your mind. I think if you managed to post more you'd let that insanity slip by that wall of silence. | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote: FILTER STARTS HERE +1 This made me laugh (almost out loud). Moosey annoying me already. 20 people is already a lot of filter to have to go through, let alone this spam. No further thoughts worth sharing. Post 1 / 7 mafia | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote: Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly, but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store. But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players. Scum leaning on you for this reason. I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find. And what is it even? Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences. | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:58 n00bKing wrote: Mmhmm. "/out because too many players" and "can't be bothered to read the setup" is no kind of inconsistency. Call it what you want but what is the reason for him to scumread Moosy even besides the setup explanation? Cause that he /outed earlier is nothing at all, just fluff that shouldn't influence the read in any way. But he puts it there as if though it had anything to do with moosy wanting an explanation. | ||
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On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote: My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup But why would that make him mafia? | ||
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On March 20 2018 10:57 ExO_ wrote: Rayn never made that second point did he? You’re putting words in his mouth and then agreeing with them....what I dont understand is why. I don’t like it — Scum reading Kelsier. Though I’ll admit I’m not a fan of HF’s posts...I think HF is either VT or scum — not sure which. ????????? What a contrived way of saying nothing | ||
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Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that. | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:12 ExO_ wrote: Either he’s VT and doesn’t care enough to try, or scum and not saying much And how does that further your goal of finding scum if that can be said for anyone else in the game? IE he's town or mafia. That much is obvious. Anyone is town or mafia. The addendums you just put there don't change the fact that it's a completely pointless statement to make? | ||
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- Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me. - rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it. - Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting. - Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in. - ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason: + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote: Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out? I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable. n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read, I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet. I'd have found the part more interesting where he says: On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote: Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it. I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia. Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason. I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path. Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally. To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO: On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote: Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me. Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution? I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person. | ||
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But I also think that to find the example I'd have to find an obscenely old game so don't ask me to look for it. | ||
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while holding back from scumreading them while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more. While sounding like I want to scumread them for it while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more. | ||
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And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily. | ||
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On March 21 2018 01:07 rsoultin wrote: Lol, I'm not sure if it's your memory or mine that has the problem, then? Either way, I don't see how it matters; you either believe that it's a real read or you don't. I don't find you questioning me rude, btw. I find your way of reading me rude. (Which I'm pretty sure made an appearance in a similar form last game as well, so there's hardly any reason for me to not accept it as true). I just don't like being characterized as a gnat. Incidentally, that is part of why I'm reading you town now. Gnat read seems to be the genuine way that you read me. I'm not terribly gnatty when not devoting much time to a conversational approach to the game. So yeah, you could be scum using meta you would use as town, but occam's razor and all that. (Plus I'm not really sure that a scum Viva wants to go through the pain of making a scumread on me and then being bit to death if I don't find the read credible.) Not sure if that helps, but there you go. Also, post-game, I'm really curious about this gnat read. It's not how I see my own townplay at all lol >< I've called myself a gnat before but that's because I have to keep hammering at my scumread nails until I'm blue in the face usually for people to lynch them with me. Not for pestering? I'm not characterizing you as a gnat. I just know you pressure people for things you find scummy and I don't see it this game. You called Mocstas entrance bad but instead of pursuing that you meekly decided that there were also townie things while at the same time saying you should have reasons to be wary of him cause he fooled you in the past. I propose a rough list of person of interest. Obviously I would reciprocate if you agreed. But mostly I'm interested into where your mocsta read ended up until now. | ||
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On March 21 2018 01:20 Conversion wrote: When did I say I would ever leave my read? The situation where I'd consolidate is in the situation I do build a good case on him and no one agrees. What confuses me about n00bking is why he refuses to even briefly acknowledge that I want to lynch him. Why would any town just flat out refuse to discuss with the one person calling them scum, if even just to generate the reasons behind it? He's clearly active enough in the thread to nitpick certain posts, so I'm curious as to see if he's going to explain why he's not engaging me I'm getting a dejavu from last game cause that's what AMG said about tubesock last game during D1 and they were both town. I don't think that you being ignored is a sufficient argument for him being mafia. | ||
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The noobking post is pretty much summary for the most part but I like his conclusion. I don't see where ExO wants to strangle me though. I believe we've been civilized so far. That might be something disfo made up. Let's see what he says. Reading his filter doesn't leave me with a conclusive read, I'd prefer to wait and see what keeps coming. | ||
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On March 20 2018 17:31 n00bKing wrote: 6/10 on your YouTube video. The original is probably better. Meanwhile, I don't really see that your vote and your introduction to your vote are synced too well. It's fine to posit that mafia don't want an early spotlight. But I don't think it can be argued that Tictock is keeping his head down and blending in. His last post made a point of saying how happy he is with where he has his vote, and then talked about how I had a "good shot" at being mafia "as well." So he's caught two baddies in the first half of Day 1, has he? I mean, that kind of post is likely to draw attention just from the sheer magnitude of the silliness involved. So if most of us do stupid shit when we are town, why would you deny Tictock the townlean that his stupid shit ought to have earned him? | ||
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In the meantime I want to point out that both of noobkings current voters didn't really take my bait question. I was expecting an answer from a town player motivated to lynch him. And that to a post that reads rather townie to me. | ||
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Fefe and Palmar are kind of my lower tier suspects . Disfo and rayn nullish and kind of reserved to be looked at later. Didn't look at much of what df has posted so far so got to keep him null for now. Skimming him makes me think he might be doing the rp thingy to conceal a lack of passion in his posts which is what sticks out to me on the go, but I'm also going to hedge on this one for now. That's pretty much it when I disregard SL and Rels. I also might be being too generous with not considering Koshi and Moosy but I don't really see a benefit for them in playing like they do if they are mafia which is rather feather ruffling. I don't usually mention that many big names on a D1 for suspects but when it's so many of them I almost have no choice if I want to tell everyone where my head is at. I will only be casing ExO among them today though, maybe FF as well. I explained what made me suspicious of rso already and in regards to HF it's pretty much about the way he's going after NK. Should he flip town at some point I'll start casing HF, if NK flips mafia I can abandon that suspicion for a good while. | ||
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436 doesn't read like it's a post that really wants to kill Kelsier with it, so I wouldn't call it serious. It's more like he's reprimanding him but I don't see him getting a scumread from it. Or rather, it doesn't look like ExO displays much of a feeling of having caught Kelsier red handed for something, reinforced by that concluding question. Reading that gives me the feeling that they are two scum arguing with each other actually. But I'm not going to push that feeling for now when I just have to push for exo. note to self, I probably should take a look at Kelsier. And Mocsta I think the reasons for me scumreading ExO should be sufficient to have him recognized as mafia. It pretty much comes down to three of his initial posts iirc. After a weak start that got him attention he's going to be focused on having an active followup and some distancing if he's mafia here. | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:53 KelsierSC wrote: yep midnight here too and I need sleep. I like rayn early mindmeld from rsoultin was nice but mocstas post was pretty bad , even vivax called it bad and that means im probably on the completely wrong track. don't like hf , mocsta or darth. I guess im interested in what exo has to say about me/hf seeing as he asked for context and then hasn't said anything about it. show up son. if you have been offended in anything I have said so far. lol I just realized that the bolded is TMI as shit. He literally spews me town here. Would lynch Kelsier as well today. | ||
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I don't see any indication of him believing that I am town prior to that post anyway. Fairly sure that is a slip, but then again if he makes a case where he explains why he was thinking of me as town at that point, it might be enough to convince others that it wasn't TMI. Going to be hard to convince me though. | ||
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On March 21 2018 16:38 n00bKing wrote: Yes. Has nothing to do with how Vivax is playing (or what allegiance he might be) in this particular game. Just "if I'm thinking like Vivax would think, then I'm probably wrong." You are doing a good job at making me want to lynch you. | ||
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On March 21 2018 16:45 n00bKing wrote: Huh? It wasn't even me saying it. I'm just agreeing with Mocsta about what Kelsier meant. I'm facilitating understanding between players, so votes will only be cast for good reasons. (Hint: There aren't good reasons for voting against Kelsier) No you literally took Kelsiers words and turned them into other words that mean something else entirely all for the sake of finding a perspective where he said that as town. I am 99 % sure you are town cause no mafia would be so idiotically suicidal to do that but I might spite lynch you for that regardless, cause all you're doing is hampering me when I just found mafia. | ||
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On March 21 2018 17:17 Koshi wrote: I like this guy. Can we keep him? Pretty please 😇 No, Koshi. We talked about this. | ||
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This is a literally impossible statement to make without a mindset where I am lock town, cause as mafia I could have other reasons other than being bad for commenting about that post in the way I did. We can argue this to death but if you don't see it like I do, I can't help you. | ||
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On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote: Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet. This is why I love when you are scum | ||
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My lynch pool is moosy,df,dis and slam as a last resort. Everyone is saying exo is town and our fight was TvT , upsetting if true but If I try and get a lynch going everyone will just say he is stupid not scum and we get nowhere. Why isn't ExO in your lynch pool though? | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:16 KelsierSC wrote: seriously? It's in your quote He's in the quote, not in your lynch pool. Under your lynch pool. I'm OCD about that. | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:23 KelsierSC wrote: So you were asking why exo wasn't in my lynch pool after I explained why he wasn't in my lynch pool. To me it reads like you really want him to be in your lynch pool but you gave up on trying to get him in there cause the phantomatic everyone doesn't listen to you. I think that if you regret not being able to lynch him, it isn't a reason for him not to take a swim in your pool. | ||
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On January 20 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote: I didn't want to start a counter wagon without knowing people were into it since it was so close to deadline. I saw sentiment there and pushed it hard. On March 21 2018 17:47 Holyflare wrote: Don't really wanna lynch noob over other names that I haven't created a narrative for yet. | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:48 n00bKing wrote: How close to the deadline was it, when he "didn't want to start a counter wagon" in that first post? We're still more than 12 hours from the deadline, here. If it was no nearer the deadline than that, I guess you could have something there. Some things are better kept a mistery, N00bking. | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:05 disformation wrote: I guess that implies he looks less like last game now, despite doing the wall post thing? though I kinda find it funny that nk berates tina for wanting to lynch slam with reasons she thinks other ppl wont get, while he hasn't posted why he wants to lynch myself. With a bunch of imagination I can guess why he might, but i'm going to bitch about it until he posts a reason. also that he says town players should try to get their preferred target lynched, not seeing him exactly doing that either. i am also in a bad mood cause there is no coffee to be had at work. how the fuck are they expecting me to do anyhting? It's pretty easy, just grab a beer instead. | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because he isn'tt trying really hard to make the game go where he wants it to go regardless of what he wants. To me it looks like he was trying really hard to make it go to Noobking. | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: That is not the impression i get. My impression is that he is actually giving people room to discuss other targets aswell and not just mercily pushing his lynch through. We can probably agree that if HF is mafia noobking is not, and i don't really understand the benefit of doing what HF does unless he is town (since his case is perfectly valid -- and he ALSO can do the thing he does as mafia as town). So you say mafia HF would start shitting on anyone not voting noobking with him? A bold claim. | ||
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On March 21 2018 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i am saying he would try harder to push the lynch. I am not sure why you manage to completely misconstrue what i say... Well you said he gives us room to discuss other things. If he tried to take away room for us, what else would he do in your opinion, besides shitting on anyone not voting noobking? | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:11 ExO_ wrote: Vivax I think you're tunneling me super hard and finding a way to see everything I do in a bad light instead of actually reading my posts and focusing on their content. In fact going through your filter tunneling me is the only thing you've done the entire Day 1 while offering very little in the way of analysis of my posts or analysis of other players. Maybe it's OMGUS a little bit, but you look like scum tunneling your one read (similar to what rsoultin was doing until she was called out for it last night by me/DF). Again I ask do you have any other scum read, and what's the reason for them? Or is it just "ignore all ExO's posts, I'm going to call him scum without reading his posts all day" day I don't know what to think of this when I'm at the same time scumreading your scumread but apparently you might have missed me giving an opinion on almost everyone in the game already? | ||
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FF cause he marginally looks like he doesn't want to be seen doing nothing, since he posted lists. | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:36 Holyflare wrote: Is my filter even good to be town read? No. Which is why I don't really get how rayn just tr you like that. seems fishy | ||
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Koshi seems pretty mafia to me. Meek and boring is not town Koshi. | ||
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Koshi, KSc, rayn, HF, rsoultin are probs mafia. For postgame. | ||
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On March 22 2018 04:20 Koshi wrote: Impressive Vivax. That is somewhat my towncircle given some paranoia on rayn and mehish on HF. You know you should play more. You are a scummer but you are also funny. | ||
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On March 22 2018 06:50 darthfoley wrote: I'm truly trying my very fucking hardest not to go nuclear on the fact that all over a sudden 1 hour before a deadline when there are 2-3 competitive wagons, like 6 people just decide that I'm a good lynch for reasons while simultaneously waiting for someone to have the balls and/or ovaries to actually start a wagon on me. I know right. I don't think you are scum, but almost all the mafia tries to get to your ass right now and I'm sorry to tell you that this is a mafia driven game. Now excuse me, I have to go back to not being listened to. | ||
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High tier: HF KSC Koshi Medium tier: Rsoultin ExO Low Tier: Rayn (maybe he's just being bad but that HF townread really doesn't sit right with me, also he didn't start a shitfight with any of the big names yet) I'm wrong on 1-2 depending on the final amount of mafia. I salute you town. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:01 KelsierSC wrote: I love how you just play your own game. It's really cute I'm playing monologue mafia. The peeps I could talk about things with aren't really into what I'm selling. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:06 Fecalfeast wrote: Has sl posted? I'd love to lynch him but he always used to go hard as scum Insert witty remark about flaccid thigns | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:22 Conversion wrote: Willing to lynch this DF fella for randomly skyrocketing me past all of his scumreads/suspicions. Otherwise I'd say NK is still our best shot. Quite the unlurk there once the votes started flyin towards you. Eager to see what's coming next. | ||
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I know I haven't been kind to you but don't you have a place for me in that exclusive club? | ||
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On March 22 2018 10:27 darthfoley wrote: Vet is the optimal fake claim to make Um no it's actually one of the few claims that gets insta dunked by ccs | ||
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I could just add him but that list would be one man too long for my taste. It might be fine if he's a dwarf. | ||
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On March 22 2018 10:41 Coagulation wrote: hi Greetings edgelord | ||
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On March 22 2018 10:46 darthfoley wrote: Howso if the mafia chooses to just not shoot at the real vet? ??? If anyone would have ccd disfo yesterday he would have been the lynch. If not mafia, then the cc afterwards unless town goes full retard. And Mocsta if you want to case TT, case TT. But don't just throw observations out there and expect me to start arguing for TT. I don't feel like you are someone worth convincing anyway as so far you turned down each and every single one of my scumreads, some more than the others. I'll just assume for the rest of the game that we won't get along. | ||
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I am just a little salty that the town was so easily cucked into the Rels lynch while KSC and ExO who were both viable didn't get any votes from my scumreads (what a coincidence). Do you remember me saying that shenannies were likely around the time I caught KSC spewing me town? | ||
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That depends on whether it's generic or x-shot claims. And no in the case of cops or vigs you don't have to lynch on a D1 when there is a cc, that pretty much is a case by case decision. But we're talking about vet. When it's two doctor claims you let mafia shoot the doctor like you said for the vet as only drooling mafia leaves a revealed doctor alive and risks losing KP. | ||
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On March 22 2018 16:41 Mocsta wrote: Random thought just hit me Could kelsier and exo be scum v scum? Sigh We've touched upon that already so not really a random thought. | ||
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I mean, you picked up a bunch of irregularities there without any sort of suspicion build-up. Instead you TR both. Rereading the start that's why I'm asking. | ||
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On March 22 2018 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I honestly have no idea what you are talking about? Can you elaborate with quotes. On March 20 2018 08:35 KelsierSC wrote: I think rayn has the best point so far by a long way, mocsta has posted dumb shit and is definitely failing the fucktard test | ||
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You can play around with the low tier, but high tier is must kill | ||
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On March 23 2018 07:08 Tictock wrote: Have not read your case, but since when is changing ones mind a scummy thing to do? Pretty sure that is much more likely to come from town. I’m realizing that I am probably defending Mocsta more than I should, but I am starting to suspect HF is scum. The last time I saw him have a narrow and unwavering focus like this he was scum. Noting this to remind myself to look into it later. Wow TT there might be hope for you yet, you are the only one so far though | ||
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On March 23 2018 07:49 Holyflare wrote: I am without a doubt in my mind the nk. Yea right .. | ||
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Yea idk how I got to thinking that after rereading a bunch of posts from gs. But I like the way NK posts. | ||
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On March 28 2018 19:17 Palmar wrote: He was very good at playing mafia, but he didn't have the stomach to do it repeatedly, so his scumgame took a nosedive. It is very, very draining to roll scum multiple times in a row. Once is fun, twice is meh, I think my longest streak is like 6 scumgames in a row. I was very tired by the end of it. How did he disappear like that btw I thought you two got along pretty well? I would also use this opportunity to commemorate coags town seals | ||
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