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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 15 2018 16:30 GMT
#10
/in
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 16 2018 06:36 GMT
#33
On March 16 2018 14:53 ykl wrote:
Uhm, do you take newbies in non-newbie games? Cause

/in

if so. Otherwise, I'd like to obs.


Did you submit an application and psych eval to blazinghand?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 16 2018 08:13 GMT
#37
I'm sure that if you were willing to ghostwrite the british empire mafia 2 postgame analysis, BLAZINGHAND would turn a blind eye to your psych history.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 16 2018 13:54 GMT
#54
/confirm
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 17 2018 15:46 GMT
#82
Now having coag and blazinghand in the same game would possibly lead to some funny situations. One can dream.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 19 2018 19:56 GMT
#121
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 19 2018 23:05 GMT
#141
On March 20 2018 08:03 KelsierSC wrote:
Hi Moosy,

Shut up


I always wonder when I read your posts what must be going on in your mind.

I think if you managed to post more you'd let that insanity slip by that wall of silence.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 19 2018 23:10 GMT
#151
On March 20 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:00 Tictock wrote:
Please insert Alignment Indicative opening here.

Thanks.

FILTER STARTS HERE
+1
This made me laugh (almost out loud).

Moosey annoying me already.
20 people is already a lot of filter to have to go through, let alone this spam.

No further thoughts worth sharing.

Post 1 / 7



mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 19 2018 23:57 GMT
#187
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 00:01 GMT
#189
On March 20 2018 08:58 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.

Mmhmm. "/out because too many players" and "can't be bothered to read the setup" is no kind of inconsistency.


Call it what you want but what is the reason for him to scumread Moosy even besides the setup explanation? Cause that he /outed earlier is nothing at all, just fluff that shouldn't influence the read in any way.

But he puts it there as if though it had anything to do with moosy wanting an explanation.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 01:42 GMT
#224
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup


But why would that make him mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 02:04 GMT
#240
On March 20 2018 10:57 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now you got me even more confused.



point 1. Your question of holyflares "read" on me is the best thing so far.

point 2. mocsta is making bad "fucktard" posts.



Rayn never made that second point did he? You’re putting words in his mouth and then agreeing with them....what I dont understand is why. I don’t like it — Scum reading Kelsier.

Though I’ll admit I’m not a fan of HF’s posts...I think HF is either VT or scum — not sure which.


?????????

What a contrived way of saying nothing
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 02:05 GMT
#242
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.

Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 02:22 GMT
#257
On March 20 2018 11:12 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:04 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:57 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now you got me even more confused.



point 1. Your question of holyflares "read" on me is the best thing so far.

point 2. mocsta is making bad "fucktard" posts.



Rayn never made that second point did he? You’re putting words in his mouth and then agreeing with them....what I dont understand is why. I don’t like it — Scum reading Kelsier.

Though I’ll admit I’m not a fan of HF’s posts...I think HF is either VT or scum — not sure which.


?????????

What a contrived way of saying nothing


Either he’s VT and doesn’t care enough to try, or scum and not saying much


And how does that further your goal of finding scum if that can be said for anyone else in the game? IE he's town or mafia. That much is obvious. Anyone is town or mafia. The addendums you just put there don't change the fact that it's a completely pointless statement to make?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 12:37 GMT
#446
It's 13:37, so it's time to post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 13:21 GMT
#453
Some thoughts I feel like sharing in inconclusive post manner.

- Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me.

- rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it.

- Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting.

- Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in.

- ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14






Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out?

I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable.

n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.



I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read,

I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet.

I'd have found the part more interesting where he says:

On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.


I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.


Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally.

To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO:

On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote:
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.

Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that.


Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me.

Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution?


I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 13:25 GMT
#454
In fact I recall doing the exact same thing as mafia and whine back to some dudes about why they're not looking at other posts while holding back from scumreading them while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more.

But I also think that to find the example I'd have to find an obscenely old game so don't ask me to look for it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 13:26 GMT
#455
EBWOP (to correctly convey)

while holding back from scumreading them while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more.


While sounding like I want to scumread them for it while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 15:58 GMT
#474
Conversion, "his posts are scummy" is not a very convincing case. You seem like you are way too comfortable abandoning your read like that for the greater good of town.

And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 20 2018 16:15 GMT
#477
On March 21 2018 01:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Conversion, "his posts are scummy" is not a very convincing case. You seem like you are way too comfortable abandoning your read like that for the greater good of town.

And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily.


Lol, I'm not sure if it's your memory or mine that has the problem, then? Either way, I don't see how it matters; you either believe that it's a real read or you don't. I don't find you questioning me rude, btw. I find your way of reading me rude. (Which I'm pretty sure made an appearance in a similar form last game as well, so there's hardly any reason for me to not accept it as true).

I just don't like being characterized as a gnat.

Incidentally, that is part of why I'm reading you town now. Gnat read seems to be the genuine way that you read me. I'm not terribly gnatty when not devoting much time to a conversational approach to the game. So yeah, you could be scum using meta you would use as town, but occam's razor and all that. (Plus I'm not really sure that a scum Viva wants to go through the pain of making a scumread on me and then being bit to death if I don't find the read credible.)

Not sure if that helps, but there you go.

Also, post-game, I'm really curious about this gnat read. It's not how I see my own townplay at all lol >< I've called myself a gnat before but that's because I have to keep hammering at my scumread nails until I'm blue in the face usually for people to lynch them with me. Not for pestering?


I'm not characterizing you as a gnat. I just know you pressure people for things you find scummy and I don't see it this game. You called Mocstas entrance bad but instead of pursuing that you meekly decided that there were also townie things while at the same time saying you should have reasons to be wary of him cause he fooled you in the past.

I propose a rough list of person of interest. Obviously I would reciprocate if you agreed. But mostly I'm interested into where your mocsta read ended up until now.
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