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On March 18 2018 11:05 disformation wrote: is it time to start with the pregame excuses yet? I work during the week and probably will only really have a few hours each night to play. | ||
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but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store. But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players. Scum leaning on you for this reason. | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:15 Holyflare wrote: I scum read kelsier for actually giving a shit Is this joke or serious? if serious, can you give me some context? | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote: I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find. And what is it even? Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences. My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Am i missing something because i don't know what my point you are referring to is? I don't think anything Mocsta has posted makes him anything. @KelsierSC what point did Rayn have that was the best by a long way? | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:44 KelsierSC wrote: point 1. Your question of holyflares "read" on me is the best thing so far. point 2. mocsta is making bad "fucktard" posts. Rayn never made that second point did he? You’re putting words in his mouth and then agreeing with them....what I dont understand is why. I don’t like it — Scum reading Kelsier. Though I’ll admit I’m not a fan of HF’s posts...I think HF is either VT or scum — not sure which. | ||
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...why the vote for disinfo here? | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:04 Vivax wrote: ????????? What a contrived way of saying nothing Either he’s VT and doesn’t care enough to try, or scum and not saying much | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote: And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia. Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that. Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me. Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution? | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:22 Vivax wrote: And how does that further your goal of finding scum if that can be said for anyone else in the game? IE he's town or mafia. That much is obvious. Anyone is town or mafia. The addendums you just put there don't change the fact that it's a completely pointless statement to make? He’s VT or mafia — not blue. That’s the distinction here | ||
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On March 20 2018 16:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I get what you are saying here but my problem is that the FIRST and pretty much the ONLY thing Exo focused on at that point in the game was the Kelsier "read" from Holyflare. I literally gave him the answer he was looking for and Kelsier commented on THAT post. Exo reads Kelsier's post but somehow he has managed to completely miss the post Kelsier is commenting on (aka my post) when it is pretty much the ONLY thing he has focused in the game so far. I find it quite hard to believe a townie picks up something they find interesting and then either: 1) completely forget it was interesting the next moment, or 2) completely "miss" the point made on the fact that he found interesting and even question the dude who basically points out the post again. I’m pretty confused here. Kelsier made a comment your post was the beat in the game so far, and implied it was because you agreed mocsta was being a fucktard. You never said this. Re-reading just now, he’s trying to claim these were two separate statements (your post was best, mocsta is a fucktard) but It didn’t read that way to me. | ||
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On March 20 2018 17:39 KelsierSC wrote: I caught up. I am going to change my opinion of Mocsta, his first posts were pretty pointless but he has added some decent content. He made a good point about exo just after I had posted it and went ot bed so we were thinking on the same lines, his post about noobking appearing just to defend and I really like the scum read on ticktock. For ticktock I have a few questions. You accused me of jumping on everything can you say what I jumped on exactly and which of those were bad reads? as for ticktock making his push on exo. It has the feeling of trying to get on a bandwagon, like there were some good things against exo but it was like he jumped on a post and tried to paint it scummy when it wasn't actually that bad. For exo himself, I do have a scum lean I guess I would want to know if his read on me has changed. Some of exo's posts seem plausible like his defence of his moosy read was possibly ok..im rambling on this. I want to read the noobkin, conversion, rayn hf stuff again because it feels important and I want to understand it, posting this to get my ideas out. Oh and I don't like Slam but can't say anymoer than "feels" want to ask vivax on how he feels about ticktock and NK Before I answer whether or not my read on you has changed — can you tell me why this is such a determining factor for figuring out your read on me? | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:35 KelsierSC wrote: I think rayn has the best point so far by a long way, mocsta has posted dumb shit and is definitely failing the fucktard test This is his post — by the time he posted this you had said nothing about HF, or am I missing something here? | ||
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I have to re-evaluate my read on you with this in mind. | ||
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On March 20 2018 18:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is if he really cared about this he would go read my filter and maybe he missed my post on Kelsier earlier but there is no way he goes read my filter and misses it the second time around. I did reread your filter. However I didn’t make the connection here. That being said, Kelsier, as of right now what’s your read on HF? | ||
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On March 20 2018 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay let's makje it very simple, if what you say is true why do you after reading this: post this: especially since you say: And now you said you associated Kelsier's post with the Mocsta thing? The logical conclusion for you to make is to assume his "good point" refers to the Kelsier/Holyflare thing but instead you now say you associated it it with the Mocsta thing which you said you didn't earlier. uh oh... I posted as I read the thread. You ask why I made my first post, and then quote the post I made after it (as I read more). Long story short, when I open up your filter I didn’t notice your comment of “not true tho” is refering to the HF thing. The point I was making was that Keisler looked like he was trying to claim you made a read on mocsta and was agreeing with it, rather than making a read on mocsta on his own. | ||
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On March 20 2018 19:00 KelsierSC wrote: I am so confused What is the order of events. You saw I had made a post saying rayn's idea was good (referring to his HF post) and that mocsta was scummy. However you thought I was trying to say that rayn had made a point about mocsta being scum. This was despite the conversation rayn and I had in the thread immediately after these posts where I clarified my point. This was also after you reread rayn's filter which contains posts about hf and his conversation with me. Furthermore you were after context about HF's read on me which is what rayn was talking about. I don't know how you missed it. What did you think his "not true tho" comment is referring to? Can you just break down what was going through your brain because I just want to call you scum here and be done with it. Long Story short — your initial post made it look like you were trying to claim rayn made a point about Mocsta when he did it. Your followup post made it look like you were back pedalling on this idea. I didn’t read super closely because I was more concerned with calling you out for this than your defense of it. Now you can believe me or you can think somehow this makes me scum — I think we’ve spent a lot of time and it’s stopped serving a good purpose. As for my read on you now — I think you’ve seemed awfully concerned with making sure everyone is town reading you moreso than scum hunting, but it’s hard for me to scum read you based on the length of posts and amount you are putting in to understand situations. I don’t think you can be a D1 lynch. | ||
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On March 20 2018 19:15 Palmar wrote: I have no reservations about lynching people on day 1 who are intentionally not playing like Koshi I agree with this, except I swear Koshi does shit like this every game I play with him and seems more hostile when he’s town | ||
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On March 20 2018 17:39 KelsierSC wrote: For exo himself, I do have a scum lean I guess I would want to know if his read on me has changed. Some of exo's posts seem plausible like his defence of his moosy read was possibly ok..im rambling on this. This is the main quote I'm referring to. This post reads to me like you want to know my opinion of you so you can then either scum read me if I still scum read you, or town read me if I town read you. And I'm not leaving myself a backdoor to come after you later. But I'm not committing to you be a firm town or firm scum at this point. I'm leaning town on you now based on your more recent posts -- however it's hard for me to shake my early impressions of you. I have a really bad history of tunneling based on early reads though and I'm aware of it, so I'm trying to improve my own play. | ||
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On March 20 2018 20:31 Palmar wrote: To clarify, I agree that the read by exo is stupid and shouldn't be made. I also agree with noobking (and hf?) that exo's read doesn't directly push any mafia agenda. Aka, Exo might very well be mafia, but that read is at best a mistake then, it's not some kind of a slam dunk case that he must be. Townies are more prone to do stupid shit than mafia. Like I don't hate ticktock's vote, i'm fine with some pressure on Exo ......At the time I made the read, HF hadn't made a single post of more than a sentence. Thus I thought she probably couldn't care less about furthering the discussion therefore she was likely scum, or vanilla town annoyed she doesn't have a role. I wasn't saying this based off a deep understanding of Holy Flare, but in a more general sense. I do know that I've played a few games with HF and she seemed more active in pushing town than she did thus far in this game when I posted that. That has sense changed, but at the time I posted I felt like HF had to be either VT or scum | ||
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On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote: I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem. I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing. I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort. ##Vote: disformation More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it | ||
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On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote: disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever. | ||
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On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote: he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis. Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided. What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)? | ||
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On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote: I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment. I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that. I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote. ##Vote: disinformation This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote.... I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him. | ||
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On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote: koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote. I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too. I can see you are not reading "super closely" again. but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful. You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me. | ||
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"it's ok. You tried" some sort of profound reason I just don't see | ||
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On March 20 2018 21:35 KelsierSC wrote: ok then don't vote and talk about something else. Honestly you are either scum or town with zero reading comprehension so you aren't that important. I don't think attacking me makes sense here. If I'm missing something, instead of antagonizing me show me: where is Koshi's reason for his vote? I certainly don't see it in his filter -- quoting disinfo and saying "it's okay you tried" isn't offering any reasoning or explanation at all. You clearly think disinfo is worthy of a vote here, and Koshi was the first person to vote Disinfo and you've established you believe Koshi has a reason you agree with, I would like that explained to me, because I don't see it at all. | ||
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On March 20 2018 21:44 KelsierSC wrote: Koshi quotes then votes in the same post. Huge leap of logic to assume Koshi doesn't like the post that he quoted. I don't like it either so I voted dis. If you are fine with the post then don't vote and contribute something else. I would try and explain in more detail but you have already said you don't read the thread and just try to bury people rather than read their explanations.. The problem I have here is that I don't think this came up organically. I brought up the fact that NK voted Disinfo with Koshi without providing a reason (and I still don't believe quoting one sentence from Disinfo is remotely a good enough reason to vote him without further explanation). You then provided a potential reason why NK might have voted Disinfo -- I said he didn't provide this reasoning though, and you double down by voting Disinfo yourself. It feels wrong to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but this makes me think you are scum with NK. ##Vote:KelsierSC | ||
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On March 20 2018 22:21 Vivax wrote: Some thoughts I feel like sharing in inconclusive post manner. - Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me. - rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it. - Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting. - Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in. - ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason: + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote: Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out? I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable. n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read, I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet. I'd have found the part more interesting where he says: Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally. To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO: I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person. I could just omgus, but that’s not really gonna help town now is it? I’ve been bad about this in the past. However I can’t help but notice you offer nothing new here. I’ve posted a lot, take the above for example — do you have no thoughts on this exchange between myself and keisler? Asking you your thoughts on other players and do something other than insist “lynch ExO” isn’t scum indicative. If you wanna tunnel me fine — offer something else too. Calling everyone town and only looking at me as scum isn’t productive in my opinion | ||
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Gonna quickly browse over for 15-30 minutes but then i'm off to bed. | ||
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- Doesn't commit to a scum read except on slam (and even says doesn't expect other people to get it). - Is okay with voting noob not because she thinks he's scum, but because his post makes her yawn? wtf reasoning is that. On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote: Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn. This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong. Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch. Everything else rsoultin said came down to "tone". I don't know, I don't buy it. This rsoultin is very wishy washy and not the town-driving rsoultin I'd expect. While I'm at it just general other reads from what little I've seen throughout the day via phone HF - Town Mocsta - Town NK - Scummy | ||
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Also, awake now! | ||
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Maybe it's OMGUS a little bit, but you look like scum tunneling your one read (similar to what rsoultin was doing until she was called out for it last night by me/DF). Again I ask do you have any other scum read, and what's the reason for them? Or is it just "ignore all ExO's posts, I'm going to call him scum without reading his posts all day" day | ||
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On March 21 2018 15:23 Vivax wrote: I'm currently thinking mafia are rsoultin, HF, ExO. HF read largely depending on NKs flip if we get that but I suspect shenannies today. Fefe and Palmar are kind of my lower tier suspects . Disfo and rayn nullish and kind of reserved to be looked at later. Didn't look at much of what df has posted so far so got to keep him null for now. Skimming him makes me think he might be doing the rp thingy to conceal a lack of passion in his posts which is what sticks out to me on the go, but I'm also going to hedge on this one for now. That's pretty much it when I disregard SL and Rels. I also might be being too generous with not considering Koshi and Moosy but I don't really see a benefit for them in playing like they do if they are mafia which is rather feather ruffling. I don't usually mention that many big names on a D1 for suspects but when it's so many of them I almost have no choice if I want to tell everyone where my head is at. I will only be casing ExO among them today though, maybe FF as well. I explained what made me suspicious of rso already and in regards to HF it's pretty much about the way he's going after NK. Should he flip town at some point I'll start casing HF, if NK flips mafia I can abandon that suspicion for a good while. Are you referring to this post Vivax? Because I don't think there was this much content in this post. You basically said "here are some people and I kinda maybe not really think they might be scum" before going back to spending every post hard tunneling me. | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:19 Vivax wrote: And I don't like that your post is basically begging me to unscumread you. I don't hate you ExO I just think you are mafia and I have to lynch mafia to play the game. So please stop giving me a guilty conscience. Okay this is fine. I'm not mafia, I'm town, but sitting here back and forthing on this will get us no where. Who are your other top scum reads? | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote: yeah i'm not scum @.@ and 'calling me out' has nothing to do with how my reads progress i think you're town, exo. and you're frankly shit at reading me. so i'd appreciate it if you gave this read of yours the doubt it deserves. it's pretty irritating when someone is this certain i'm scum every game and is this constantly wrong, but never seems to adjust his behavior @ rayn, yeah idk. i'm not sure on disinfo at all, just would be more comfortable lynching into my five. and the comment about wanting to talk about slam had more to do with my wanting to not lynch him than that making him town lol >< selfishness I'll admit, I've been bad at reading you in the past, and in general am very susceptible to OMGUSing hard and tunneling hard instead of being to assess and re-evaluate. However I think I raised some very valid points when I posted. You weren't offering any hard reads, were very wishy-washy and were sticking to your one read. I'll take another look at your filter but you're still pretty high on my list. Does anybody have an example of a scum game for Noobking I can look at? He's made so many long ass posts and it's hard for me to believe scum could sustain his level of posts like this. A lot of the posts are terrible, but he is at least taking the time to type up all of that consistently. | ||
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Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player. If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why? | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote: @NK, don't agree on conv, but your slam point is solid. @KSC...I still don't remember reading his filter. Would have to check the filters of the people voting him. Which I'll probably do, but honestly I don't want to lynch him anyway because: - viva read feels genuine to me <- this was my hesitance earlier - focus on finding scum in those scumreading him feels super natural from town - he's actually trying to engage me on slam <- entirely selfish reason Removing disinfo from the lynch pool Can you point to where you found vivax Scum hunting? Maybe my lenses are clouded here, but it looks to me like he hasn't done a lot of this. Again, it looks to me like he's tunneled me without really even analyzing my posts, and outside of that not scum hunted at all. | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:41 Vivax wrote: I'd lynch kelsier and ff as alternative to exo. FF cause he marginally looks like he doesn't want to be seen doing nothing, since he posted lists. That's really kinda interesting to me. Are you trying to imply I'm on a scum team with kelsier? Yeah I'm not sure I'm buying that as a real read. | ||
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@Vivax I'm really curious to see your response and explanation to wanting to lynch Kelsier while also I'm your #1 scum read. @rsoultin responses to the above would be appreciated. I'll be back in ~45 minutes but only for about 15 before I start work | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:56 rsoultin wrote: I didn't say that lol >< Palmar, and I've already explained. On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote: Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn. | ||
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On March 21 2018 21:09 rsoultin wrote: Yes, this is what I said lol. I mean, the point is I didn't find anything super scummy about noob I just found his posts boring? That's a far cry from saying I'm voting him because I don't think he's scum and I'm bored. I'm not sure how to make this clearer to you. Other people say he's scummy for doing the thing he did last game. I say I don't really see anything glaringly scummy, and it's not actually that close to what happened last game. But his posts are boring. I.e. could be scum. Do you not understand why boring posts could yield scum? It means a player isn't going anywhere or saying anything interesting...i.e. blending, possibly having trouble scumhunting. I think it’s a contradiction. If boring posts are scummy, then you should think his posts are scummy if you think they’re boring. I don’t think it’s a very good reason to say you’re okay with lynching him just because his posts are boring. In my opinion you are directly stating you do not find him scummy but don’t care, not that you find him boring and therefore scummy. Town should want to lynch scum, not a boring town | ||
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On March 21 2018 21:27 rsoultin wrote: Your opiniion is wrong I know what I said. And I wasn't looking to lynch 'boring town' You are taking qualifiers and using them as absolutes. He is not the scummiest scum who ever scummed =/= he is not scummy. I don't know how to teach you reading comprehension. And I don't have much nice to say. Like, I know for a fact that I have probably some of the best reading comprehension in the States, at least out of those who bother to apply for graduate programs. Highest percentile. I don't actually KNOW what people should be able to comprehend and shouldn't. But my instinctive response to this is to call you bad for not being able to read. But if you want to put a vote on me or call me scum based off not understanding English and choosing to interpret it differently than it was written, I can't stop you. And I don't think you're scum, so whatever. This is pointless. Once you have an actual reason to scumread me, I might address it. Otherwise -shoos- You’re right it’s not absolute — but I think you’re using qualifiers to hide the intention behind your opinion (and also attempting to insult my reading comprehension to do the same thing). He’s not the scummiest scum to ever scum could imply he’s scum but not that scummy, or that he’s town. You’re follow up sentence that you want to lynch him because he’s boring implies town moreso in my eyes. Regardless you’re avoiding posting your opinion here: Did you think noob was scum? Did you think he was town? Either way I think your use of wanting to do it just because he’s boring is bad here | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:46 ExO_ wrote: Can you point to where you found vivax Scum hunting? Maybe my lenses are clouded here, but it looks to me like he hasn't done a lot of this. Again, it looks to me like he's tunneled me without really even analyzing my posts, and outside of that not scum hunted at all. also @rsoultin, this post—where have you seen Vuvax scum hunting? | ||
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Disinfo — im not sure I can believe you forgot you threw df into town. and your reaction to it looks to me like a scum that got caught and is scrambling. Have mixed feelings though. Kelsier’s vote on disinfo early on for no reason (still not explained —the quote Koshi quoted is NOT a reason) makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable. I suppose it could be scum sheeping scum but it all feels weird to me. I’m not really sure I haven’t hated disinfo’s filter either...but I can’t see a town forgetting who they town read. | ||
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On March 22 2018 01:38 rsoultin wrote: Could be getting white-knighted or just hard mafia-siding in mocsta's pocket again, but I find it unlikely that we keep thinking along the same lines so frequently irt. HF, is there anyone of Rels/Slam/Palmar that I could convince you to vote for? Quickly sum up Rels for me — why do you think he should be the vote? just omgus? I don’t think he’s particularly good looking and think he doesn’t have a good reason to add me into his lynch pile, but evidently has some rep for ignoring day 1. If he was scum he could’ve skirted by without saying anything. What has he said that makes you think by posting he’s scummier than if he just stayed silent? | ||
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:/ I’m off to keep dealing with my car. | ||
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This is a part of the game I struggle with, feeling motivated to filter dive and scum hunt after the mislynch. I haven't gone back and read exactly what went down at EoD yesterday. I had about two minutes to either switch my vote or leave it worthless on Kelsier -- I chose to switch to Rels because out of the options he seemed like the most likely to be scum. Either way, I'm feeling bleh about it. Rayn you said you were interested in me. Do you or anybody else have questions I can answer? | ||
ExO_
United States2315 Posts
On March 22 2018 21:15 n00bKing wrote: Or should they not kill anyone, hold their shot, and hope to get off a shot later in the game? I think there's two approaches here I would consider: Shoot Disinfo. Operate on the assumption that Scum won't target him for KP going into Night 1. If he's telling the truth I'll know then. Especially with the way the voting went (chaos after he blue claimed) maybe could use his thoughts and my own thoughts to formulate an educated opinion on who is scum. And if he was lying, easy scum dead. Alternatively I might shoot Vivax. Might just be OMGUS but I don't think Vivax has scum hunted this game. I think his post have largely distracted town and can't make sense coming from a towny point of view. He's scum reading both myself and Keslier -- this doesn't make sense in my opinion. Particularly with the discussion I had with Keslier earlier in the day. And I don't think he's ever given a good explanation. + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2018 03:32 Calix wrote: Day 1 Vote Count disformation [5]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare n00bking [4]: Conversion, KelsierSC [2]: ExO_, darthfoley rsoultin [1]: ExO_ [1]: Vivax, Alakaslam [1]: rsoultin Rels [1]: Mocsta ykl [0]: Mocsta [0]: Tictock [0]: Palmar [0]: Not Voting [5]: ykl, Palmar, sicklucker, disformation, Alakaslam disformation is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM. On March 22 2018 03:48 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote KelsierSC At the time, Keslier is the 3rd wagon but 2 votes behind. He hops on the wagon with me, his primary scum read all game. I'm just not sure I believe if he really thinks I'm scum he's going to hop on a wagon with me to try to get traction for a new target (or just throw his vote away on 3rd party). So Vivax or Disinfo. I feel like if I was a better player I would go with Disinfo because potentially more information could be learned by confirming he's blue. However I personally would be more likely to go with Vivxa: I think he's likely to be scum. | ||
ExO_
United States2315 Posts
On March 22 2018 22:18 rsoultin wrote: ExO, explain your read on df please. I can't find a read on him in your filter anywhere, so if you have made one and I'm just being a tard with ctrl+f, if you could quote it that would be great. (god, i'm a dip lol >< didn't even see that second spoiler from df in the moment) Haven’t offered an opinion on DF, havent read him too closely either. However he agreed with my suspicions on you and I soft town read him at that point. I’m still not convinced you aren’t scum though rsoul. The effort at End of Day makes me think yoy might be - but only because of effort and post count. Content wise I still think you’ve been really just meh on everyone except Slam. And I have to ask myself, were you pushing Rels based on a real read, or because you thought you could get others to go for him | ||
ExO_
United States2315 Posts
slip? | ||
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United States2315 Posts
On March 22 2018 23:03 rsoultin wrote: I'm glad that you've realized that I can only literally be two alignments this game. I will admit that my push on Rels was pretty bad, because it was mostly emotional and I probably should have let that go in favor of a lynch I could be more objective about. I'm going to ignore the part where you said I might be scum only for effort and post count as the obvious writing mistake it was. So, why was DF more of a slight townread to you than Rels when practically all that Rels was doing was calling me scum/a good lynch? DF addressed and agreed with me directly. Rels didn’t. Given the choice between the two I thought Rels was less active and scummier. | ||
ExO_
United States2315 Posts
On March 23 2018 02:27 rsoultin wrote: You'd think my question wouldn't be particularly hard to answer. I’m on my phone at lunch, give me a litttle bit of time lol. I’ve andwered you now — any followup? | ||
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gg damn you mocsta | ||
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