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On March 24 2018 10:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 08:15 n00bKing wrote:On March 24 2018 01:03 Tictock wrote:On March 23 2018 18:36 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 08:11 Tictock wrote:
Just checking flips before I finish reading (note I still have not read pgs 40-70 or w/e)
Guess I can let that HF stuff go.
Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?
Assuming for a moment that that was all mafia KP then I think 5 mafia is a safe bet (6 just seems like too much for 20 players).
Noting for myself to look into who Vivax was scum reading. This feels astoundingly contrived. Why would someone post about the flips while admitting they aren't caught up enough on the thread to know anything about what they mean? Kus I knew what time it was, and it saved me from fruitlessly responding to several of HF’s posts. There wouldn't be any risk of fruitlessly responding to a dead HF, if you just didn't post until you'd read. And being saved from fruitlessly responding to a dead HF didn't save you from fruitlessly making posts about the flips while having no context. eg "Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?" If you just read before you posted, you would have seen that mocsta had said he was vig-killing Exo. So, why would a TOWN player feel any need to post reactions to the flips, if he hadn't read the rest of the thread yet, and had no context to work with? I see absolutely no reason for a town player to do this. However, it is comparatively easier for me to pick out the scum motivation for trying to sound like you've not read the thread when you actually have. Lmao You think I’m scum pretending that I haven’t read the game?
Actually this is one of the things i agree with him, not in your words but his. You are putting words to his mouth.
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On March 24 2018 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 09:28 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No you dont. I said tomorrow. This is the funniest thing I have read in this game all day. Almost sad, but still really funny. I realize I am doing that thing where I am just posting my thoughts and reactions to whatever strikes my fancy and probably not doing anything actually productive. I’m almost caught up though and will be home soon. So whatever that means. Can you tell me who you actually think is mafia? The problem i have with you is that usually when i play and you're town i ahve huge problems with you -- i mean in a way that you post some reads and i disagree with them all and then i think you are mafia and either i mislynch you or one of us dies. This game the only things i remember from you are things where you ask me something that can be easily explained in my filter straight out. It feels like you only read half of the posts and completely disregard others, like you pick a post that looks "bad" and not even call the dude (me) scum for it, just "question" them. That's why i think you look bad, almost the worst in the game in fact.
My vote should be on NK atm I’ve just been too busy to actually vote. Other than that I have been trying to work out where my reads are at.
Kinda finding myself having the problem of too many Town reads atm.
Also since I did not directly respond to your answer, I was well aware that you had voted Rels earlier and then swapped back to DF before returning to Rels. I was hoping to get better idea of why Rels was so scummy to you, but don’t think I really got that.
I also still find it an interesting inconsistency that you didn’t want to vote Conv because your scum reads were on him, but that never factored into your Rels vote.
Oh and I still think it is spooky that you called Moosy town so early and so adimently.
However, I have kinda liked your posts today (besides the semi-fuck off but) and both my gut and your overall town suggest you are Town.
There is a couple things nagging me about Koshi, but I won’t be able to dig up the posts till I get to a comp. the big one was he totally brushed off reading Conv saying he trusted my read on him. Even assuming conv’s Flip is going to prove my read correct it feels weird for Koshi to do that. Not sure how he seems to know I am Town this game.
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On March 24 2018 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 09:44 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this
But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion? More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion? Yay a non WoT to quote. Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy. You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game. And if you try to give me some shit kus I didn’t repaond to something you asked me you will have to ask it again. I only skim some of your posts. What do you think of the above post by noobking? Why do you quote a post you actually say nothing about?
Idk why but I felt like I needed to quote one of his posts to ask the question as seeing him posting made me want to ask.
The post itself is completely useless as it can’t possibly go anywhere.
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On March 24 2018 10:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow i didn't know firefly had a voting thread. Is noobking voting for me because it seems like he is surely calling me mafia?
Pretty sure he has left his vote on me while he multi-tasks pushing the lurkers and showing everyone how great he is.
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On March 24 2018 10:28 Tictock wrote:
Also since I did not directly respond to your answer, I was well aware that you had voted Rels earlier and then swapped back to DF before returning to Rels. I was hoping to get better idea of why Rels was so scummy to you, but don’t think I really got that.
- Rels called me town
- Rels' reads were not nowhere in line with mine
- Rels didn't ask me anything anytime
- I didn't feel the need to address this because the first time i voted for him i was not sure if i even wanna lynch him and second time well.. there was not much time and i only swapped myu vote because i thought df claimed doc and i didn't want to lynch Mocsta or Conversion.
I also still find it an interesting inconsistency that you didn’t want to vote Conv because your scum reads were on him, but that never factored into your Rels vote.
That is because i found Conversion townie and Rels not.
Oh and I still think it is spooky that you called Moosy town so early and so adimently.
I also called Moosy mafia in last game obs QT probably like 12 hrs into the game. Do you find that spooky too? Idk, i can't answer you on that, i think he is town and that's it.
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On March 24 2018 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 10:04 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 08:15 n00bKing wrote:On March 24 2018 01:03 Tictock wrote:On March 23 2018 18:36 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 08:11 Tictock wrote:
Just checking flips before I finish reading (note I still have not read pgs 40-70 or w/e)
Guess I can let that HF stuff go.
Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?
Assuming for a moment that that was all mafia KP then I think 5 mafia is a safe bet (6 just seems like too much for 20 players).
Noting for myself to look into who Vivax was scum reading. This feels astoundingly contrived. Why would someone post about the flips while admitting they aren't caught up enough on the thread to know anything about what they mean? Kus I knew what time it was, and it saved me from fruitlessly responding to several of HF’s posts. There wouldn't be any risk of fruitlessly responding to a dead HF, if you just didn't post until you'd read. And being saved from fruitlessly responding to a dead HF didn't save you from fruitlessly making posts about the flips while having no context. eg "Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?" If you just read before you posted, you would have seen that mocsta had said he was vig-killing Exo. So, why would a TOWN player feel any need to post reactions to the flips, if he hadn't read the rest of the thread yet, and had no context to work with? I see absolutely no reason for a town player to do this. However, it is comparatively easier for me to pick out the scum motivation for trying to sound like you've not read the thread when you actually have. Lmao You think I’m scum pretending that I haven’t read the game? Actually this is one of the things i agree with him, not in your words but his. You are putting words to his mouth.
Where?
He literally just said in that post that it makes no sense for me as Town to stop reading to look at the flips, but that I as scum would pretend to still be reading when I have in fact caught up.
I play scum similar to you rayn, in that I really don’t lie expect for the obvious.
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On March 24 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2018 09:44 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this
But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion? More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion? Yay a non WoT to quote. Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy. You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game. And if you try to give me some shit kus I didn’t repaond to something you asked me you will have to ask it again. I only skim some of your posts. What do you think of the above post by noobking? Why do you quote a post you actually say nothing about? Idk why but I felt like I needed to quote one of his posts to ask the question as seeing him posting made me want to ask. The post itself is completely useless as it can’t possibly go anywhere.
So you don't feel like he is misrepresenting the situation at all?
Like Conversion who modkilled himself and me and whoever else he was talking aabout all the same?
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On March 24 2018 10:34 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2018 10:04 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 08:15 n00bKing wrote:On March 24 2018 01:03 Tictock wrote:On March 23 2018 18:36 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 08:11 Tictock wrote:
Just checking flips before I finish reading (note I still have not read pgs 40-70 or w/e)
Guess I can let that HF stuff go.
Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?
Assuming for a moment that that was all mafia KP then I think 5 mafia is a safe bet (6 just seems like too much for 20 players).
Noting for myself to look into who Vivax was scum reading. This feels astoundingly contrived. Why would someone post about the flips while admitting they aren't caught up enough on the thread to know anything about what they mean? Kus I knew what time it was, and it saved me from fruitlessly responding to several of HF’s posts. There wouldn't be any risk of fruitlessly responding to a dead HF, if you just didn't post until you'd read. And being saved from fruitlessly responding to a dead HF didn't save you from fruitlessly making posts about the flips while having no context. eg "Exo seems like the weirdest kill to me, unless he was vigged?" If you just read before you posted, you would have seen that mocsta had said he was vig-killing Exo. So, why would a TOWN player feel any need to post reactions to the flips, if he hadn't read the rest of the thread yet, and had no context to work with? I see absolutely no reason for a town player to do this. However, it is comparatively easier for me to pick out the scum motivation for trying to sound like you've not read the thread when you actually have. Lmao You think I’m scum pretending that I haven’t read the game? Actually this is one of the things i agree with him, not in your words but his. You are putting words to his mouth. Where? He literally just said in that post that it makes no sense for me as Town to stop reading to look at the flips, but that I as scum would pretend to still be reading when I have in fact caught up. I play scum similar to you rayn, in that I really don’t lie expect for the obvious.
He was saying that your approach to a situation looks like scum (which i kind of agree with), because town players do not do that. Aka he is saying it MUST be that you are not telling the truth about what you say, and it looks like you are doing what you do because you are mafia.
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I dont either know why would nayone ever make that post as town.
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On March 24 2018 10:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 10:28 Tictock wrote:
Also since I did not directly respond to your answer, I was well aware that you had voted Rels earlier and then swapped back to DF before returning to Rels. I was hoping to get better idea of why Rels was so scummy to you, but don’t think I really got that. - Rels called me town - Rels' reads were not nowhere in line with mine - Rels didn't ask me anything anytime - I didn't feel the need to address this because the first time i voted for him i was not sure if i even wanna lynch him and second time well.. there was not much time and i only swapped myu vote because i thought df claimed doc and i didn't want to lynch Mocsta or Conversion. Show nested quote +I also still find it an interesting inconsistency that you didn’t want to vote Conv because your scum reads were on him, but that never factored into your Rels vote. That is because i found Conversion townie and Rels not. Show nested quote +Oh and I still think it is spooky that you called Moosy town so early and so adimently. I also called Moosy mafia in last game obs QT probably like 12 hrs into the game. Do you find that spooky too? Idk, i can't answer you on that, i think he is town and that's it.
Thanks. I don't see those points on Rels being a very good scum read + Show Spoiler [IMO] + Rels's thinking you are town and not really asking you anything go hand in hand. He probably had a lot to read and if he thought you were town would probably put your posts on the back burner. Reads not being the same I can understand making you nervous.
I apparently wasn't aware you had become the Moosy whisperer. Seemed odd you could read him town based off a few initial spam posts (literally the first few posts in the game) followed by a bunch of "self-votes".
Regardless I'm getting the feeling that I was just going down the wrong path kus you are striking me as obv town right now.
In other news I am just now getting home, and after getting food I'll try and see where my head is at and then try and read those 30 pgs I missed D1. I'm not sure that is actually the best use of my time, but we'll see how I feel after food.
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Well if Rels disagrees with me he either tries to make me see his way or understand my way or call me mafia. Take that as you want, i am sorry i was wrong in the end here but i don't think he did anything, especially what i think he would have done as town towards me.
I am not Moosy whisperer. Unless i am. I have my meta on him and that's it i am trusting it until someone makes a slam dunk case on him.
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On March 24 2018 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 24 2018 09:44 Tictock wrote:On March 24 2018 08:05 n00bKing wrote:On March 23 2018 23:19 Mocsta wrote:
I dont like saying this
But conv rage quit feels controlled i.e. fake More fake or less fake than Slam's, in your opinion? More fake or less fake than rayn's, in your opinion? Yay a non WoT to quote. Similar question to you as I posed to Moosy. You guys were scum together last game, what is your read of him this game. And if you try to give me some shit kus I didn’t repaond to something you asked me you will have to ask it again. I only skim some of your posts. What do you think of the above post by noobking? Why do you quote a post you actually say nothing about? Idk why but I felt like I needed to quote one of his posts to ask the question as seeing him posting made me want to ask. The post itself is completely useless as it can’t possibly go anywhere. So you don't feel like he is misrepresenting the situation at all? Like Conversion who modkilled himself and me and whoever else he was talking aabout all the same?
Considering the initial quote from Mocsta was prior to the modkill I was kinda assuming noob didn't know about that.
On March 24 2018 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont either know why would nayone ever make that post as town.
You talking about my reading the flips post?
Kus I explained exactly why.
How could a town resist getting that kind of info about the game even if they are still catching up?
If nothing else I guess you have to flip me to find the town who would do that. Makes no sense to me why I would continue reading when I could open a new tab, click the last pg in the game and see the daypost.
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On March 24 2018 10:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well if Rels disagrees with me he either tries to make me see his way or understand my way or call me mafia. Take that as you want, i am sorry i was wrong in the end here but i don't think he did anything, especially what i think he would have done as town towards me.
I am not Moosy whisperer. Unless i am. I have my meta on him and that's it i am trusting it until someone makes a slam dunk case on him.
I get you see things that way, but I feel like you are overlooking limited time factors. Also not having the same reads =/ disagreement unless the reads were wayy different.
Anyways this is a fairly moot topic, and food is calling.
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My problem is this:
Guess I can let that HF stuff go.
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Noting for myself to look into who Vivax was scum reading.
Because in my world you are "pushing yourself" into wrong direction. And that's just not because of reads but also how you treat those two people here, Vivax is basically "i wanna sheep him", and HF is "maybe i can townread him now". That sounds unnatural as hell to me.
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You literally sound like you maybe townread Holyflare who is dead confirmed town now.
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For dumpster ppl.
Vivax and HF died.
Tictock thinks Vivax is sheepable here, Holyflare is "probably town",
Go figure...
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For people who are really fucking dumb because i cannot expect anything from anyone here anymore, both Vivax and Holyflare flipped town.
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On March 24 2018 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:My problem is this: Show nested quote +Guess I can let that HF stuff go.
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Noting for myself to look into who Vivax was scum reading. Because in my world you are "pushing yourself" into wrong direction. And that's just not because of reads but also how you treat those two people here, Vivax is basically "i wanna sheep him", and HF is "maybe i can townread him now". That sounds unnatural as hell to me.
Yea I was toying with the idea of HF being scum, him flipping town means I could drop that.
I know he was still scum reading Mocsta and had started to scum read me (as well as had been scum reading NK during the day) but I wasn't as clear about who Vivax was scum reading.
It's not even "I wanna sheep Vivax" (when the hell have I ever sheeped anyone?) It was "I want check who Vivax thought was scum"
Notice how close that is to what I wrote in that post?
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Maybe stop trying to overread what I wrote, and just read what I actually said Rayn?
Kus now you are putting words in my mouth.
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